₦airaland Forum

EgunMogaji2:
100% in agreement with a withdrawal but 100% in disagreement with the mode of withdrawal.

Which mode would have been better?

Kinjikitileking:
Very funny , you're disparaging the royalty of the ijaw and urhobo about the unseriouness of their monarchy,,, then explain
the olu or warri that was titled without the ancestral crown ?? Their was bone of contention between someone and the monarchy before the person abscond with the crown , .... Explain that one ??....

If truly the olu of warri is the designate absolute monarchy of the warri kingdom,, it signifies the other ethnic king are his stooge , and he can lead procession to their habitat....
But if he can't lead procession there ,,, that means he's not the trule absolute monarchy ....

I really don't know why the urhobo and ijaws are scared of itsekiri that made them created the own kingdom within the itsekiri king, itsekiri are not dragging those land with them, the urhobo own those land just as itsekiri own land in urhobo quarters too.

Speaking about the crown, itsekiri has many ancestral crowns, it is allowed in itsekiri for a king to make his own crown of he doesn't want to wear his father's crown. So the crown is not even an issue here.

Now look at this write up written by an urhobo man maybe u will get more understanding.

A long read
Cc: Billy Oghenebrume.
Cc. David Omare Mikie. Ace

LET PEACE REIGN IN RESPECT TO THE TITLE OLU OF WARRI.

The Itsekiri people do not have problem with Urhobo speaking people. Having issues of title to lands with Okumagba family and Agbassa people who are Urhobos does not amount to Itsekiri people having ethnic war with Urhobo speaking people. Itsekiris are peace loving people and will continue to be peace loving.

I particularly don't see any of my friend in Warri on ethnic lines because we share almost everything but Warri as a city and as a name has it own history from pre colonial, to inter colonial and post colonial era and by virtue of Supreme Court judgements to lands which ethnic sentiments can no longer change.

In post and inter colonial times, Warri served as the base for Portuguese, Dutch and British slave traders hence early western education by Itsekiri people. Warri was ruled by Itsekiri elites and the last GOVERNOR OF WARRI is the person of Chief Dore Numa. Warri was made PROVINCIAL headquarters (WARRI PROVINCE) by the British in the early 20th century.

Because WARRI PROVINCE then covered the whole of present day delta state, the OLU OF WARRI TITLE gave birth to protest from various ethnic groups within the province in 1950 through 1951 that the Olu of Warri title should be changed to Olu of Itsekiri which was temporally granted by the government for peace to reign.

But Warri is a name of a place to a people, aside being the capital of the then Warri province. there is nowhere like no man's land, everywhere are attached to a people. The Itsekiri people responded by virtue of history that they don't own the entire Warri province but they own Warri as a place, as a town and as a people such should reflect in the title of their King.

After the coronation of Ginuwa II, Itsekiri people petitioned Lagos and London, making a case for their Olu's title. This matter became an issue of topical importance, and no less a person than Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe then contributed to the debate in the West African Pilot of 14 May 1940 as follows:
"His highness Ginuwa II is Olu of the Itsekiri speaking people who live in Warri Township. If the matter is to be discussed in detail, it will be found that a definite title is necessary, in which case the Olu of Warri seems to be most historically and correct. When we speak of the Oba of Lagos, we refer to the paramount Native Ruler of Lagos Township, although Lagos is populated mainly by Yoruba speaking peoples and Lagos is part of Yoruba land. So too, in the case of his Highness Ginuwa II, the Olu of Warri is the paramount Native Ruler of Itsekiri speaking people and Warri town is Itsekiri Land"

That was vintage Dr. Azikiwe, a patriot and nationalist also joined the debate on the OLU OF WARRI TITLE in those days. Then, when independence drew near, Awolowo, the government leader in the Western Region, well known for never tocing Dr. Azikiwe's political lines, had to take the matter of the Olu of Warri title to Parliament in 1952. After a healthy debate there, the Delta parliamentarians accepted that WARRI PROVINCE be changed to DELTA PROVINCE so that Warri, as a name, an a place should revert to those who had it.

On the prompting by London, the governor general in Lagos, following the parliamentary approval of the title "THE OLU OF WARRI" In Ibadan in May 1952, wrote a report to London dated 14 Oct 1952 justifying the change, saying it was based on "sound historical grounds especially as Warri Division (sic. Jekri-sobo Division) which consisted of two areas, the Itsekiri and the Sobo area" had been separated (C544/708/of Colonial records)

This change, acclaimed as a victory by all parties including (Urhobos) involved, removed the universal impression that all ethnic groups in the province would be regarded as subjects of the Olu of Warri because of the former name "Warri Province". The non-Itsekiri Parliamentarians were all satisfied with the change, Hon... Otutu, a Kwale parliamentarian on their behalf, proclaimed in the Daily Times of 31 January 1953: "we accept the change." On the Itsekiri side, rightful title of their Olu had reverted to the ancient throne.

Note: Historical facts.

In recent, those protesting against the title of the Olu of Warri are ignorant of what their forebears had accepted and adopted approximately 60 years ago in good faith.

I repeat the Olu of Warri title has grown in history and legacy above ethnic lines. Warri is for everyone to stay but the title the Olu of Warri cannot be change in history.

THE CREATION OF NEW AND RIVAL KINGDOMS IN NIGERIA IS NOT PART OF THE ITSEKIRI PEOPLE CHARACTER.

Now the reading public may be able to assess from these verifiable facts and the reasonableness and
peace-loving nature of the Itsekiri in Delta State

The "Okumagba family" merely won a possessory title (see radical title) to a 281.1-acre farmland near Okere part of Warri by a court judgment and has sought to have a rival kingdom in Warri called "Okere Urhobo kingdom". Now look, "the Mene-Okotie family" of "Itsekiri extraction" has by a judgment in suit no. S/66/69 of the same Supreme Court won a 775.10-acre family land within the Urhobo kingdom of Mosagar, to the relief and joy of the entire Mosagar Community, the Mene-Okotie family has shunned setting up a kingdom there.

Also Gbolokposo, another Itsekiri Community, by another Supreme Court judgment, No. Sc/98/1993, has won and radically owns 1993.77 acres of their land under the overlordship of the Olu of Warri within the Uvwie kingdom in Urhobo land. Today they are living happily together and the Gbolokposo Itsekiri are not thinking of setting up any kingdom in Uvwie land.

If we go by ownership of land whether possessory ( given to settlers and customary tenants who have settle for a long time) or radical title given to (Aboriginals) by the equation,

1993.77 ÷ 281, 775.10 ÷ 281.1, this will give the Itsekiri people 7 kingdoms in Uvwie (URHOBO LGA) and approximately 3 Itsekiri kingdoms in Mosagar(IN URHOBO LGA) .

Should Itsekiri start saying that there should not be an Ovie of Uvwie or there should not be Ovie of Mosagar?

Should Itsekiri people start proliferating kingdoms in those places they have radical titles to land?I guess many Urhobos will frown. As much as people can choose to do what they like, We cannot afford to be having kingdoms on every piece of land.

You can read this https://lawcarenigeria.com/chief-sam-warri-esi-vs-the-chief-secretary-to-the-federation-of-nigeria-ors/

BananaPeel:
Itsekiri juju no see who carry the crown? Bunch of jokes

But why is the crown paining you, we have come out to say we have more than one crown.
On a normal level itsekiri don't even reuse crown, every king has a new crown so it wasn't even a big deal.

The whole issue of the crown theft was just to scare some people, including ayiri.

Christistruth00:
If they like they can put a baseball cap on his head as long as the Governor gives him the correct Staff of Office

Nah, the throne predates Delta state government, so delta state government cannot give him staff of office.

There are 3 kings in Delta state that doesn't need the state government staff of office. The only of warri, the Dein of Agbor and the Orodje of Okpe

Kinjikitileking:
Why is the federal government playing polictics with this monarchy ?? Why can't they be sincere to themselves and know about the hierarchy of warri monarchy...
War has been fought about this particular issue ... And instead of correcting this issue they are still pouring fuel on fire..
From the history , I learnt that warri is meant of 3 ethnic groups , itsekiri, ijaw and urhobo(it am not mistaken)
And each has its own jurisdiction and jurisprudence.... Each monarch never trespass it's boundary ... Which am sure up till now is still practiced .... It's quite sure that this new crowned acclaimed Olu of warri can't and can never lead a procession to the other two enthnic domain..... It's sheer hypocricy of him admitting and bearing the nomenclature *olu of warri* when within him he knows he can't lead a procession to the later...

When will this issue be really solved to avoid apple of discord ?? If this self acclaimed monarchy has Nestor!!!! They will kindly advice him to fix this issue in his regime .... History will have it that he liberated the warri kingdom.......
*BTW am from South East*

What ever u learnt was wrong.

The person that told u the story, did u ask how the name warri came about?

Lemme give u a brief history,
The itsekiri people call the land iwerre, and their king olu of iwerre.

Note that the itsekiris where the first tribe in Niger Delta to come in contact and made relationship with Europeans. This relationship gave itsekiri an advantage and influence over other tribes in the region.

It was the Europeans trying to pronounce iwerre that lead the word warri, because when Europeans pronounce iwerre we hear warri. That was how the word warri came to be.

For some reason the name because what a large portion of delta state was called. Infact the entire Delta state was called warri province before it was changed to Delta state.

Secondly there has always been one king in warri for the pass 540 years and that king is the olu of warri. It was only recently about less than 10 year before the ijaw of gbaramatu started having king, same as the urhobo in okere community and the urhobo is agbasa community.
Ijaw and urhobo never really had royalty like the itsekiri, they only started doing so recently. You don't expect the government to give the same respect to a 10 yrs old throne it give to a 500 yrs throne.
The government will always respect the 500yrs throne more.

Also the urhobo n ijaw don't have one king like the itsekiri, they have multiple king and some of this king are self imposed maybe if the individual has money that's another the govts won't take them serious.

The only urhobo king that is of the same level as the itsekiri king is that of okpe. Okpe is an entirely different location different from warri.

Another source of confusion here is that the name warri has been adopted by even places that are not warri but close to warri, like an urhobo person from ekpan will tell u he is from warri, but ekpan isn't actually in warri, same as jeddo and other area even people in far off udu will claim that they are in warri everybody wants to associate with the name warri.

greatiyk4u:
This one go enjoy oil money die....

Though he will still remain loyal to IBORI the Lord.


Congratulations to him and may his reign bring joy and peace to Warri

Person were get money pass ibori, this guy has a private jet.

SARSCoV2:
Fulani's are always handsome and tall, unlike the flat headed dwarfs littering South

This is not true, some Fulani are dark, some are short n not necessarily handsome.
I learnt during my service year, the boy washing my clothes was Fulani from Niger republican, he was dark n short.

ivolt:
You shouldn't have mentioned me since you didn't my comment.
American training fighters against Soviets was not a mistake, it was a deliberate policy.
If similar circumstances arise, they will do it again. But that is not something I expect you
to understand.

I didn't say it was a mistake either but those fighters are now the Taliban of today

ivolt:
What is your point?
How is America that just fled Afghanistan related to this Anti-Taliban fighters?

Did I say they were related to the group or do u have reading disability.

Dagger111:
Last last, na to dey collect people's wives and hijack lands and properties here and there.

Things like this don't happen in warri besides the guy has been base in the US for a while now he's very learned.

3minssex:
Stop saying rubbish. I don't even know why people are calling him Olu of warri.

He's Olu of Itsekiri not Olu of warri!
Urhobos and ijaws are more than Itsekiri in warei, and they don't call their kings "king of warri" or stuff like that.

Are u joking, there's no single community in the whole of warri south belonging to the ijaw
Most of the urhobo in warri are not from warri, if we check well u are from okpe.
They are very few urhobo from warri which are the agbassa, ekurede urhobo, edjeba n Ogunu.
Ekpan is not warri but uwvie, jeddo is not warri but uwvie, most of the place u guys call warri are not actually warri. Even some of u call udu warri which is very shocking to me.

jubrilELsudan:
I STILL LAFF AT HOW ALL OF YOU WERE RUNNING LIKE COCKROACHES IN THE KITCHEN AT NITE WHEN THE LIGHT IS TURNED ON.

Off point

jubrilELsudan:
AM VERY SURE YOU LAYING ON THE FLOOR IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR PPL ARE MASSAGING YOUR BODY WITH HOT TOWEL AS A RESULT OF THE KOBOKO THOSE POLICEMEN USED TO FLOG YOU WHEN YOU TRIED GOING TO WALK NEAR THE OLU.

Oh I see where u are coming from, u are one of those agbasa boys who tried attacking us yesterday. Have they release u from prison?

jubrilELsudan:
ODE VILLAGE MASQUERADE

Painment

Enceladus:
I thought the mother side is of Benin descent. Same reason they want to bypass Tsola because he is double Yoruba on both sides.

He's talking historically.
The people that make up itsekiri are believe to be from Ile Ife, but adopted a benin prince name ginuwa to be their king.

So the language is a mixture of Yoruba, Benin and a little bit of Portugal due to their contact with the Portuguese.

jubrilELsudan:
YOU ARE VERY STUPID. DO YOU SEE PPL IN THE BACKGROUND OR IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES OR VERANDA WAVING?

LOOK AT THE PICS, YOU SEE PPL IN THE BACKGROUND JUST LOOKING ON UNINTERESTED LIKE IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING THAT IS PASSING.

I KNOW IN YOUR ALAMGBA FISH BRAIN, YOU BELIEVE THIS RENTED CROWD THAT IS FOLLOWING HIM ARE ACTUALLY WARRI PPL.

CORONA FALL INSIDE YOUR ANUS.

I can feel your pain, I'm currently in warri as we speak.
I go give u update soon

theInterpreter:
You are Itsekiri?

Ya

ivolt:
Too little too late.
These are the real fighters, not the corrupt cowards America was wasting billions on.
Unfortunately, they are too small to fight the Taliban on the long run.

Ogbeni this is exactly how Taliban started.

Soviet union overtook Afghanistan, a small rebel group like this was formed, the US back the rebel group and help them defeat Soviet union.
Today that small rebel group has grown to become Taliban.
I don't think America will want to make same mistake twice.

theInterpreter:
You're just yapping trash
Do you know that Itsekiri has OPC?

He's not totally wrong, I was furious when. I met a Yoruba boy from Ibadan calling us Igbo. I almost deck am but I corrected him n he was like all of us from this part of Nigeria are Igbo.

jubrilELsudan:
LOL IM SUBJECTS NO EVEN SEND AM. NOBODY CUM STREET DEY WAVE AM. EVEN SMALL PICKIN NO EVEN RUN FOLLOW AM.

Are u blind or can't u see the picture

mizz2posh:
On the previous post where he was crowned I saw a different person with white beard, this one has black beard, abi na my eyes?

He shaved his beard.

Bisiebae:
Her baby is safer with her. Who Dem go give baby to

There are millions of Americans waiting to adopt that baby