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My guy, no be by to read Engineering or Medicine be the koko oh. Na wetin dey your pocket at the end of the day be the koko.
Bros I will always encourage you to read Engineering cos at the end of the day you have more chances of hitting it big than the doctor.

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Essence of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Essence of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood by God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Essence of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Essence of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood by God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

Where did you quote "a god" from.
Quote the bible for me.

BIBLESPEAKS:
Please Please I dnt want to say something that will offend you. Who said anything about JW's? Through my studies of the scriptures I've been able to spot out the blunder in the Trinity dogma, and I have put it forth.

I don't understand u sef, I quoted John 1:1 in KJV and u're accusing me of using JW's bible yet you quote exactly the same thing as I did. I think you have some real issues, u cldnt even say anything about my write up.

We are saying same thing from different angle.
Half a dozen and six is one and same thing right?

The Lord our God is ONE (Trinity is ONE). Three personality yet still one.
You are still serving one God, but we are saying that there is God the father, the son and the Holy spirit. Yet it is still one God.
So you see we are saying same thing from different angle.

SisterMe:
My dear, what you are saying is contrary to the Jews cardinal commandment "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: -Deuteronomy 6:4". There is no room for trinity in the Old Testament Law to the Jews. Did their God decieve them or did He lie to them? If not, there must still only be one Lord in the same context in which the Jews have always known their God- as one Person, not three. And if that be the case, then it can only mean, for Jesus to be truly who He said He was, that He was Jehovah in human flesh.

I think what she is trying to point out is the rate we abuse the world. You are only rightous when you follow Jesus teaching and principles.

vooks:
I thought so. There is nothing unbiblical with Christians being called righteous

Please quote any bible that isn't JW version then I will flow with you.

In the begining was the word (in the beginging was Jesus), and the word was with God (Jesus was with God the father) and the word was God (Jesus is God) this statement verify the trinity showing Jesus is God the son. Period.

BIBLESPEAKS:
John 1:1 reads: "in the begining was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." - KJV

If this verse were interpreted to mean Jesus was himself God Almighty, it would contradict the preceding statemant, "the word was with God." Someone who is "with" another person cannot be the same as that other person. Many bible translations thus draw a distinction, making it clear that the word was not God Almighty. For example, a sampling of Bible translations say the following: "The word was a God," "a god was the word," and "the word was divine."

Bible verses that in the Greek language have a construction similar to that of John 1:1 use the expression "a god." For example, when referring to Herod Agrippa 1, the crowds shouted: 'it is a god speaking.' And when paul survived a bite by a poisonous snake, the people said: "He is a god" (Acts 12:22; 28:3-6) It is in harmony with both Greek grammar and Bible teaching to speak of the word as, not God, but "a god."

Consider how John identified "the word" in the first chapter of his gospel. "The word became flesh and resided among us," he wrote, "and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs(not to God but) to an only-begotten son from a father." So "the word became flesh, lived on the earth as the man Jesus and was seen by peopl. Therefore, he could not have been Almighty God, regarding whom John says: "No man has seen God at any time" John 1:14, 18.

My view: she isn't

vooks:
So, is Sinach wrong?

Yes I believe this with faith. I am holy due to the fact that Christ is in me and it is the basis for my holiness, its not of my own accord or will but through Christ our Lord.
I am made of the image of Christ therefore I am holy. Whenever I sin and ask for forgiveness, my sins are wiped away.

vooks:
Profuse apologies
Sinach says 'am righteous, am holy' I have given the basis for those lyrics. Of course 'I' is believer not humanity. Nobody is righteous, we are MADE righteous in Christ and on this basis we can say we are righteous. Do you believe this?

Again its manifesting.
Now I know u just can't make a statement without an insult. Funny enough if the mods ban you, you will start crying fowl. I tire for hoe people can't be civil for once.

Pr0ton:
I didn't insult you because of your views. I only corrected your stvpidity. How could an 'adult' say that create means bringing to life? Typical of a real idio+





Your on your way to Hell Fire.

Why can't you just make your point without throwing tantums.

Can't we just be mature for once on public forum. You made a good statement but killed it off with ur insults. Not good at all.

vooks:

2 Corinthians 5:21King James Version (KJV)

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


If you read your Bible, you would avoid senseless disagreement

Paul in Romans is talking of the state of man that necessitates the blood of Jesus shed on calvary. He is saying all have sinned and is quoting Psalms 14:1-3,53:1-3. The law won't suffice to make us right with God. Please read the entire chapter and quit hating

This question should exist in the first place.

Jesus said "I and my father are one" meaning such as the glory of the father is such as the glory of the son and of the Holy spirit. They are co-equal in Majesty, power, glory etc.
Therefore be it the father, or the son or the holy spirit. All are king of the Jews, cause they all rule of the jews. They here is showing three personality but in actual sense there is only one personality (the Blessed and Holy Trinity)

You don't need to claim what you are, why should He make a claim that he is God when he is. Its not a claim its a fact.

Jesus once said I and my father are one. John also said "In the begining was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Paul also said there are three that testify in heaven. The father, the son and the holy spirit. The Trinty is real.

As adults, we have different views on things. And we MUST respect the others view. On forums like this we must meet one whose view we are totally not in agreement to, instead of insulting the person and throwing tantums, we can easily point out the clauses or phrases we aren't in agreement to and state the reasons why we don't agree to them. Do you mean in real life you just insult people for having a different view from you. We are here to learn from each other but not to insult each other. Your points will make a better meaning if no insult was there.

Last bullet: I will never agreee to anything anti-christ or anti-trinity. You can say I have been brainwashed, so be it.

Pr0ton:
Ask the mod that deleted my post

Why the insults?

Pr0ton:
But your the one with a flaw. For some hours now I've been searching for what create means, but none says to 'bring to life.' Moreover, creating topics means bringing them to life?.. A bona-fide id.iot#Sorry





No.. God has freewill. We have freewill, too. But God's freewill always leads to perfection, man's first attempt to utilize his freewill led to imperfection. So, man's freewill can't really be from God, perfection.

You actually wasted 2Mins of my time, sucker.

UBA lost me on the 30th of Sept, 2010. After 5 years of banking with them.

Gloria3389:
I'm sure 80% of past customers won't agree with u....I'm one

UBA lost me on the 30th of Sept, 2010.

Gloria3389:
I'm sure 80% of past customers won't agree with u....I'm one

Never bank with a bank that has electronic channel fee, account maintenance fee etc (FCMB, Access, UBA etc)

The logic is very flawed here...
Create means to bring to life that which was not in existence. Man made phone but never created phone.

God created man to be perfect like him, but then gave us a mind of our own. He gave us the ability to choose between the good and the bad, but man chose bad and so became inperfect.

All I know is there are 3 persons in 1 God, yet not 3 gods but 1 God, co-eternal, co-equal, indivisible.
Jesus was begotten of the father but not created, the Holy spirit proceeds from the father and the son.

Hahaha...
Make the woman cool down na... And the man, how long will you remain jobless. If assked who is the man of the house.

Last bullet:
Say no to lazy men

You mean queue

mspeak:
You left out the "I dey your back" guy, he comes from nowhere and start to claim he was behind someone on the cue.na that one dey pain me pass..

Why write in cap.

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Why the insult...

spotit: gtfoh! i don't wanna see it. u deluded enslaved being. u don't even know how small your father's scrotum is, but you can come here and tell me you're one and the same person. in fact, that you're your father's father and you laid your mother to beget you.

Google is your friend...
Try either www.google.com.ng or www.bing.com. www.yahoo.com can also help out.

spotit: the trinity... where?