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1. The core contradiction and biblical legend. If Jesus could miraculously feed 5,000 people, why couldn’t he feed himself when he was hungry? And why curse a fig tree that was innocent and “not in season”? 2. Feeding the 5,000 vs feeding himself What the text says • Jesus feeds the crowd (Mark 6, Matthew 14, John 6). • Later, in Mark 11:12–14, Jesus is hungry, sees a fig tree, finds no fruit, and curses it. The problem If miracles are acts of compassion: • Why help thousands but refuse to help yourself? • If hunger is real suffering, why deny yourself relief? Christian theological excuse Christian theology usually says: • Jesus chose not to use miracles for himself • He only used miracles for “others” to show God’s compassion But here’s the issue: 👉 That explanation collapses, because cursing the fig tree is using power for himself, just negatively. So the argument “he didn’t use power for himself” doesn’t hold. 3. The fig tree problem (this is the biggest issue) Let’s read the text honestly (Mark 11:13): “Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.” That sentence destroys every attempt to morally justify the curse. Key facts: • The tree was not in season • It did exactly what nature requires • Jesus still cursed it • The tree withered and died So my question is? Why punish something for not doing what it was never meant to do? 4. Is Jesus acting out of anger and frustration? From a plain reading: • Jesus was hungry • He expected fruit • He was disappointed • He cursed the tree This looks very human — anger + frustration — not divine justice. Christian scholars themselves admit this story is awkward. 5. Compare this with God in the Hebrew Bible In the Hebrew Bible: • Trees are not cursed for being out of season • Nature follows God’s laws and is not blamed • God rebukes humans for injustice, not plants for biology This story does not align well with earlier biblical ethics. 6. So is Bible Jesus a figure of destruction? Based only on this episode, one could reasonably conclude: • The act was impulsive • The punishment was unjust • The target was innocent This automatically mean the Bible Jesus is evil — Anger pro and oppressor who abused divine power. |
Dtruthspeaker:Allah can’t die, Because He created death and everything . Any god that can die is a fake idol god. |
Paul’s manipulation of the Abraham–Ishmael–Isaac story Paul lies in (Galatians 4:21–31) vs the truth ( Gen. 17 vs 15-27 This is where everything shifts, and where later Christian bias really comes from. What Paul does Paul takes a historical narrative from Genesis and turns it into an allegory. He says: • Hagar = slavery • Ishmael = flesh • Sarah = freedom • Isaac = promise Then he concludes: “Cast out the bondwoman and her son.” The problem Genesis never says this is a spiritual hierarchy. Paul is not explaining Genesis — he is repurposing it to win a theological argument. Why? Because Paul’s real enemy was: • Jewish law • Circumcision • Torah obligation So he needed: • Isaac = freedom (faith) • Ishmael = law (slavery) This is retroactive symbolism, not original meaning. Key manipulation Paul: • Ignores Genesis 17 where Ishmael is blessed by God directly • Ignores God saying “I have heard you” about Ishmael • Ignores that God Himself tells Abraham to care for Ishmael • Turns a family conflict into a cosmic rejection That is not exegesis. That is theological weaponization. 👉 In short: Paul uses Ishmael as a symbolic casualty to destroy Torah authority. Ishmael becomes collateral damage. |
Concept of God Christianity • God becomes human • God dies • God prays to God • God sacrifices God to God to forgive humans This creates theological complexity: • Trinity (one essence, three persons) • Incarnation • Atonement via blood Even trained theologians admit: “It is a mystery, not fully comprehensible.” That’s not an insult — it’s an admission. Islam • God is absolutely One • God does not incarnate • God does not die • God does not need sacrifice to forgive Core idea: God is transcendent, merciful, and directly accessible. Let those that have sense think, the truth is not difficult to know if only will can put our emotions outside. |
Obaseki is a political mugu. He will forever regret of joining politics after his tenure as a governor. How can one man fought everybody in Apc his former party and decamped to pdp and fought everybody he met in pdp including his own deputy. |
I’m just asking, if the wages of sin is death. Why is satan still alive? Between Jesus and satan who suppose to die? Why God needs the blood of his only son before he can forgive man sin. while same white men who brought Christianity condemned and rubbish our Africa’s gods because they request for Animal blood. Between a god who suck a human blood n the one who take animal blood to forgive sin, which will you serve? |
DMerciful01:All that glitters aren’t gold. |
Khallicopyro:Obascam and the unknown ighodaro will never see the bullet that will hit them. I hate Apc but apc is taking edo state for sure because of the stupid Obaseki. |
immortalcrown:Rubbish.... this present day Israelis are not the historical Israelites but group of Americans and eupeans who gather themselves n form that blood sucking nation with the Israel in 1947. |
Kobojunkie:But initially you lied to me, that Ismael was not a legitimate son of Abraham because his mother was not a wife but a side chic and being illegitimate son he can not be part of Abraham God promised blessings. But now you have come up with same fake stories from ur pastors without biblical verses to mislead the gullible who are so lazy to read the Bible. I'm a Muslim and I read the whole Bible both old n new testament. |
EreluRoz:There is no rivalry between those two pius women but the Christians spreading lies because they are very gullible n lazy to read the Bible but believe every rubbish from their pastors. |
Hagar was given to Abraham as a legal wife not as side chic by his first wife called Sarah. Then Hagar took in and gave birth to Abraham first child called Ismael. So why the Christians telling lies that Ismael is an illegitimate son of Abraham because his mother Hagar was a side chic not Abraham wife. Pls read Genesis 16 vs 3.
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UKEMY:This is really confirmation that nairaland is now officially flooded with children and kids. At today America hav voted over 400 billion dollars as aids to israel In this Genocide going on in Palestine. Do you know what is 400 billion dollars? Israel is used by proxy, its America that killing innocent Palestinians while their so called target Hamas are living large in Iran and other countries. |
UKEMY:I wonder how stupid you guys think in this nairaland. Hamas just wake up and kill fathers, mothers. Sisters and brothers in Israel for no purpose. At today they ar more 45000 innocent Palestinians who are in Israel jail with hard labor daily for more than ten years now. You think so low for you to called Hamas self defense freedom fighters terrorists. Israel will be defeat and they will learn in hard way. The America n Western countries giving them weapons n aids against innocent Palestinians will be all put to shame. |
Righteousness2:Just go to Israel and shout "in Jesus name after your prayer" in public, whether you will not be behead like a common criminal. Israel major religious is Judaism, follow by Islam. Christianity have no base in Israel and the jews don't believe in your stupid fabricated Bible but the Torah. Pls can you dispute all these facts. I hate Christianity because of the gullible ones like you. |
Righteousness2:Ignorant mugu. There is diifferent between Israelites and Israelis . The historical Israelites mentioned in the Bible has scattered all over the world and they hav no specific country to themselves today but majority of them are in America. Just as ur Bible predicted that no stone will be left unturned regarding the jews and Jerusalem. The Israelis you see today is a political group of white people formed in 1947 to checkmate and create crisis in the middle east by America and the western world. It's Israelis that are in middle east not Israelites. Is just like you saying lagosians in nigeria is same with lagos people in Portugal. |
huptin:Uniben products ar not stupid lik pastor Chris. He graduated from AAU Ekpoma not Mighty Uniben. |
Okortor:Olosho render a satisfactory service for money received by them. When same olosho fail to deliver on her services n promises you demand a return of your money. But Pls which services does those criminals called pastors render that they will demanding for monetary tith. Seed, offering etc? |
Exousiang01:There is island, mainland and another land. Ikorodu is another land not main land pls |
magoo10:You were making sense till u called Peter Obi... All Nigeria politicians ar criminals n same..no different between Obi or wike, Obi 8yrs as Governor of small Anambra, what was his legacy than stories n failed promises. All politicians deserve death including Obi, we need a new set of leaders not those old junks pdp, Apc or lp. |
Jokerman:Oshodin, ikeja, iyana ipaja and Abule Egba is a straight route via lagos Abeokuta express way. Ogba is a different axis entirely. Are u new in lagos? |
Righteousness2:Seun is very stupid, for allowing a demon lik u to stay in NL. You turning this forum to jamboree with ur religious bigotry. The funny thing is if a Muslim repeat this ur stupidity of religious fanaticism he will tagged terrorist and ban from here. |
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WHILE JESUS CHRIST LIVE FOR GOD WHO CREATED HIM. John 17 vs 3 This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent "messager", Jesus Christ. |
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Any politician who is gaining popularity in nairaland is alway the loser in the final result. E.g Peter obi, Maduka Godwin, Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour etc this Asue case is not different, Obaseki is not a grassroot politician and hav alot enemies over body anybody he support will fail woefully. this is a sitting governor who lost his ward, local govt, senatorial to unpopular LP candidates in edo south. Whoever Oshomiole endorse is the next governor of edo state. This is Tinubu inec, nothing concern him n free n fair election, his target is 2027. Imo and kogi blueprint will be use in edo state n Tinubu aim is to turn nigeria in to one party system when he will be alpha and omega. |
Cortexhills99:Understanding of holy spirit for a book that was heavily translated and edited by Satanic Roman and English emperors to suit themselves. What does holy spirit has to do with understanding a book written in a simple English? |
franktolk:Gullible explanation, what is metaphorical or ironical in the above Bible verse. I know ur next excuse will be a canal mind will not understand a Bible that was translated and edited by our Colonia slaves master to suit themselves . |
Why blaming a peaceful Islam for radicalism and terrorism while Bible openly preaching radicalism, hates, disunity and terrorism but this is left for the western and America propagandists to answer? Just imagine it was a Quran verses that stated this below but not Quran but Bible. Matthew 10:34-36 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's foes will be members of one's own household" Luke 14 vs 26. "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." |
YourBestWriter:Poorest mindset... japa slave Master. |
Whoever Oshomiole support will be the next governor of edo. definitely Oshomiole and apc will present their candidate from edo north . There is nothing lik edo south block votes, benin city as capital is not housing the bini people alone but people from every part of the state and Nigeria at large. Whoever Obaseki support will lose, that man must go to prison. |
