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Christianity EtcThe Hunger Paradox: Why Jesus Feed Thousands But Not Himself? by ictplotter(op): 12:11pm On Feb 01
1. The core contradiction and biblical legend.

If Jesus could miraculously feed 5,000 people, why couldn’t he feed himself when he was hungry?
And why curse a fig tree that was innocent and “not in season”?

2. Feeding the 5,000 vs feeding himself

What the text says
• Jesus feeds the crowd (Mark 6, Matthew 14, John 6).
• Later, in Mark 11:12–14, Jesus is hungry, sees a fig tree, finds no fruit, and curses it.

The problem

If miracles are acts of compassion:
• Why help thousands but refuse to help yourself?
• If hunger is real suffering, why deny yourself relief?

Christian theological excuse

Christian theology usually says:
• Jesus chose not to use miracles for himself
• He only used miracles for “others” to show God’s compassion

But here’s the issue:
👉 That explanation collapses, because cursing the fig tree is using power for himself, just negatively.

So the argument “he didn’t use power for himself” doesn’t hold.

3. The fig tree problem (this is the biggest issue)

Let’s read the text honestly (Mark 11:13):

“Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.”

That sentence destroys every attempt to morally justify the curse.

Key facts:
• The tree was not in season
• It did exactly what nature requires
• Jesus still cursed it
• The tree withered and died

So my question is?

Why punish something for not doing what it was never meant to do?

4. Is Jesus acting out of anger and frustration?

From a plain reading:
• Jesus was hungry
• He expected fruit
• He was disappointed
• He cursed the tree

This looks very human — anger + frustration — not divine justice.

Christian scholars themselves admit this story is awkward.


5. Compare this with God in the Hebrew Bible

In the Hebrew Bible:
• Trees are not cursed for being out of season
• Nature follows God’s laws and is not blamed
• God rebukes humans for injustice, not plants for biology

This story does not align well with earlier biblical ethics.

6. So is Bible Jesus a figure of destruction?

Based only on this episode, one could reasonably conclude:
• The act was impulsive
• The punishment was unjust
• The target was innocent

This automatically mean the Bible Jesus is evil — Anger pro and oppressor who abused divine power.
Christianity EtcRe: Concept Of God by ictplotter(op): 5:25pm On Jan 31
Dtruthspeaker:
God Who Died and lives again proves that He can never die.

Oya, let us see if you Allah can do that
Allah can’t die, Because He created death and everything . Any god that can die is a fake idol god.
Christianity EtcPaul’s Manipulation Of The Abraham–ishmael–isaac Story by ictplotter(op): 9:25am On Jan 31
Paul’s manipulation of the Abraham–Ishmael–Isaac story

Paul lies in (Galatians 4:21–31) vs the truth ( Gen. 17 vs 15-27

This is where everything shifts, and where later Christian bias really comes from.

What Paul does

Paul takes a historical narrative from Genesis and turns it into an allegory.

He says:
• Hagar = slavery
• Ishmael = flesh
• Sarah = freedom
• Isaac = promise

Then he concludes:

“Cast out the bondwoman and her son.”

The problem

Genesis never says this is a spiritual hierarchy.
Paul is not explaining Genesis — he is repurposing it to win a theological argument.

Why?

Because Paul’s real enemy was:
• Jewish law
• Circumcision
• Torah obligation

So he needed:
• Isaac = freedom (faith)
• Ishmael = law (slavery)

This is retroactive symbolism, not original meaning.

Key manipulation

Paul:
• Ignores Genesis 17 where Ishmael is blessed by God directly
• Ignores God saying “I have heard you” about Ishmael
• Ignores that God Himself tells Abraham to care for Ishmael
• Turns a family conflict into a cosmic rejection

That is not exegesis.
That is theological weaponization.

👉 In short:
Paul uses Ishmael as a symbolic casualty to destroy Torah authority.
Ishmael becomes collateral damage.
Christianity EtcConcept Of God by ictplotter(op): 9:09am On Jan 31
Concept of God

Christianity
• God becomes human
• God dies
• God prays to God
• God sacrifices God to God to forgive humans

This creates theological complexity:
• Trinity (one essence, three persons)
• Incarnation
• Atonement via blood

Even trained theologians admit:

“It is a mystery, not fully comprehensible.”

That’s not an insult — it’s an admission.

Islam
• God is absolutely One
• God does not incarnate
• God does not die
• God does not need sacrifice to forgive

Core idea:

God is transcendent, merciful, and directly accessible.
Let those that have sense think, the truth is not difficult to know if only will can put our emotions outside.
PoliticsRe: Obaseki Sends A Stern Warning To Those Who Aided Gun Battle In Benin Last Week by ictplotter(m): 8:05pm On Jul 23, 2024
Obaseki is a political mugu. He will forever regret of joining politics after his tenure as a governor. How can one man fought everybody in Apc his former party and decamped to pdp and fought everybody he met in pdp including his own deputy.
Christianity EtcIf The Wages Of Sin Is Death, Between Jesus And Satan Who Suppose To Die? by ictplotter(op): 12:07pm On Jul 21, 2024
I’m just asking, if the wages of sin is death. Why is satan still alive?
Between Jesus and satan who suppose to die? Why God needs the blood of his only son before he can forgive man sin. while same white men who brought Christianity condemned and rubbish our Africa’s gods because they request for Animal blood.
Between a god who suck a human blood n the one who take animal blood to forgive sin, which will you serve?
CelebritiesRe: Obasanjo Arrives At Davido & Chioma’s Wedding In Lagos (Photo) by ictplotter(m): 4:31pm On Jun 25, 2024
DMerciful01:
CHIOMA IS THE LUCKIEST GIRL IN NIGERIA....HAPPY FOR HER
All that glitters aren’t gold.
PoliticsRe: Edo 2024: PDP BoT member, Charles Idahosa Resigns From the Party by ictplotter(m): 7:39pm On Apr 29, 2024
Khallicopyro:
Who won resign make him resign. Who won cross carpet make him cross. Truth be say na Ighodalo be our next governor. If them no like am make them go court. Oba gha to kpele! Ise!
Obascam and the unknown ighodaro will never see the bullet that will hit them. I hate Apc but apc is taking edo state for sure because of the stupid Obaseki.
Foreign AffairsRe: If Israel Is So Powerful, Why Do They Need USA, UK, EU To Stop Iranian Missiles? by ictplotter(m): 5:49pm On Apr 15, 2024
immortalcrown:
It takes power to attract support from those nations. Do you think those nations have nothing to gain from Israel?
Rubbish....
this present day Israelis are not the historical Israelites but group of Americans and eupeans who gather themselves n form that blood sucking nation with the Israel in 1947.
Christianity EtcRe: Biblically Ismael is A Legal Son Of Abraham from his wife Hagar. by ictplotter(op): 9:30pm On Apr 12, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Here's a question. Does it really matter what the Christians says of Hagar given that ultimately you are unable to track your very lineage back to her son, and most importantly the promise that was given was bestowed by the God of Abraham on his descendant's from the line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Something interesting to note is that all three of the men whose descendants were chosen by God are written to have attained Holiness and were eventually approved righteous by Him? undecided
But initially you lied to me, that Ismael was not a legitimate son of Abraham because his mother was not a wife but a side chic and being illegitimate son he can not be part of Abraham God promised blessings. But now you have come up with same fake stories from ur pastors without biblical verses to mislead the gullible who are so lazy to read the Bible. I'm a Muslim and I read the whole Bible both old n new testament.
Christianity EtcRe: Biblically Ismael is A Legal Son Of Abraham from his wife Hagar. by ictplotter(op): 9:16pm On Apr 12, 2024
EreluRoz:
I have never believed he's an illegitimate child kos God cannot make his Prophet have an illegitimate child. I think he married her when Sarah couldn't conceive.

Hagar is the mother of Arabians

The rivalry between Sarah and Hagar is still on till today if you trace history back to the Bible
There is no rivalry between those two pius women but the Christians spreading lies because they are very gullible n lazy to read the Bible but believe every rubbish from their pastors.
Christianity EtcBiblically Ismael is A Legal Son Of Abraham from his wife Hagar. by ictplotter(op): 9:05pm On Apr 12, 2024
Hagar was given to Abraham as a legal wife not as side chic by his first wife called Sarah. Then Hagar took in and gave birth to Abraham first child called Ismael. So why the Christians telling lies that Ismael is an illegitimate son of Abraham because his mother Hagar was a side chic not Abraham wife.
Pls read Genesis 16 vs 3.

Foreign AffairsRe: Palestinian Christians In Gaza Observe Easter Amid Israel's War (Photos) by ictplotter(m): 9:12pm On Mar 31, 2024
UKEMY:
You are so block headed with heart filled with hate.
Israel carries out Precise attacks on Hamas Installations and hack Hamas and PIJ terrorists but aljazeera reports all deaths as civilians .
You are so ignorant boy,Israel produces most weapons used by the US and UK ,what those countries does is they manufacture some parts and sells to Israel.
A terrorist is always a terrorist,
Muhammad deir and Sinwar will be caught or Eliminated soonest and for the Hamas bureau chief hiding in Turkey Mossad will get him.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL
This is really confirmation that nairaland is now officially flooded with children and kids.
At today America hav voted over 400 billion dollars as aids to israel In this Genocide going on in Palestine. Do you know what is 400 billion dollars? Israel is used by proxy, its America that killing innocent Palestinians while their so called target Hamas are living large in Iran and other countries.
Foreign AffairsRe: Palestinian Christians In Gaza Observe Easter Amid Israel's War (Photos) by ictplotter(m): 8:23pm On Mar 31, 2024
UKEMY:
If someone killed your father,mother,wife,sister and your family and even openly say that he will destroy you ,will you clap for the person?
Hamas is a terrorist group,Hamas should accept that it did wrong in attacking Israel and should Release all Hostages.
Lastly, Palestinians mostly celebrated 7th Oct.
Let them help Israel in Eliminating all Hamas Leaders then a new and prosperous Gaza,Khan Younis will be born
I wonder how stupid you guys think in this nairaland. Hamas just wake up and kill fathers, mothers. Sisters and brothers in Israel for no purpose.
At today they ar more 45000 innocent Palestinians who are in Israel jail with hard labor daily for more than ten years now. You think so low for you to called Hamas self defense freedom fighters terrorists.
Israel will be defeat and they will learn in hard way. The America n Western countries giving them weapons n aids against innocent Palestinians will be all put to shame.
Foreign AffairsRe: Palestinian Christians In Gaza Observe Easter Amid Israel's War (Photos) by ictplotter(m): 8:12pm On Mar 31, 2024
Righteousness2:
Op you are on your own.

No true Christian anywhere in the world who reads, Understands and follows the word of God , the Holy bible will speak ill of ISRAEL.

Only Fake christians who have no relationship with GOD or HIS word, the Holy Bible will speak ill of Israel in these times.


TO ALL THE FAKE CHRISTIANS AROUND THE WORLD:

YOU CAN’T SAY “CHRIST IS KING” AND BE AN AVID ANTISEMITE.

LET ME REMIND YOU THAT ON THE CROSS HE WAS ACCUSED TO BE “THE KING OF THE JEWS” AND UPON HIS RETURN AS THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, HE WILL SAVE HIS PEOPLE AND REIGN FROM JERUSALEM WHILE ISRAEL IS ONCE AGAIN THE HEAD OF ALL NATIONS.

EVEN AT THEIR LOWEST POINT AS THEY FAILED TO ACCEPT HIM OR UNDERSTAND WHO HE WAS, HE PRAYED: “FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING”.

IF YOU HATE THE NATION OF ISRAEL YOU CAN’T HAVE IN YOU THE SPIRIT OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, THUS YOU AREN’T SAVED AT ALL!

REAL FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST LOVE HIS EARTHLY BRETHREN!
Just go to Israel and shout "in Jesus name after your prayer" in public, whether you will not be behead like a common criminal. Israel major religious is Judaism, follow by Islam. Christianity have no base in Israel and the jews don't believe in your stupid fabricated Bible but the Torah. Pls can you dispute all these facts.
I hate Christianity because of the gullible ones like you.
Foreign AffairsRe: Purim: ISRAEL Prime Minister Attends A Traditional Reading Of The Book Of Esther by ictplotter(m): 9:04am On Mar 25, 2024
Righteousness2:
I am a Spirtual ISRAELITE

Are you a Hamas Person?
Ignorant mugu.
There is diifferent between Israelites and Israelis . The historical Israelites mentioned in the Bible has scattered all over the world and they hav no specific country to themselves today but majority of them are in America. Just as ur Bible predicted that no stone will be left unturned regarding the jews and Jerusalem. The Israelis you see today is a political group of white people formed in 1947 to checkmate and create crisis in the middle east by America and the western world. It's Israelis that are in middle east not Israelites. Is just like you saying lagosians in nigeria is same with lagos people in Portugal.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Has Raised 50 People From The Dead - Chris Oyakhilome by ictplotter(m): 8:58pm On Mar 22, 2024
huptin:
This country is lawless..if you say this in a country with laws you will be immediately arrested and asked to prove your statement?

When did they die? Who certified them clinically dead? Where is their death certificates?

What kind of nonsense statement is this? some one said this man graduated with a 3rd class from Uniben. I agree...no man of at least average intelligence can say this
Uniben products ar not stupid lik pastor Chris. He graduated from AAU Ekpoma not Mighty Uniben.
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by ictplotter(m): 11:35am On Mar 17, 2024
Okortor:
A fool will always remain a fool, why not also demand full refund from all the oloshos you have slept with.......you guys see Christianity as a joke because of its peaceful and Christlike nature. Can you try such with the head slammer's religion?
Olosho render a satisfactory service for money received by them. When same olosho fail to deliver on her services n promises you demand a return of your money. But Pls which services does those criminals called pastors render that they will demanding for monetary tith. Seed, offering etc?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: How To Those Shuttling Ikorodu To Mainland Cope? by ictplotter(m): 10:35am On Feb 27, 2024
Exousiang01:
Ikorodu to mainland?
No be mainland Ikorodu dey?
There is island, mainland and another land. Ikorodu is another land not main land pls
PoliticsRe: I Don't Know Who Can Challenge Us In 2027 – Wike by ictplotter(m): 5:11pm On Feb 18, 2024
magoo10:
This is the mindset behind Nigeria's present economic woes ,they are more concerned with 2027 than delivering to Nigerians .
Their plan is to impoverish the common man so that they will not have strength to vote by 2027.
But thank God the drunkard is only a man

Well meaning Nigerians should continue to pray for Peter Obi as he needs our support ,for now he is the only one who has the political will to break this chain of demons .he did it in 2023 and will do better by 2027
You were making sense till u called Peter Obi... All Nigeria politicians ar criminals n same..no different between Obi or wike, Obi 8yrs as Governor of small Anambra, what was his legacy than stories n failed promises.
All politicians deserve death including Obi, we need a new set of leaders not those old junks pdp, Apc or lp.
BusinessRe: Lagos Govt To Relocate Computer Village To Kantangowa, Abule Egba by ictplotter(m):
Jokerman:
I'm talking of transport and ease of accessibility.

Just imagine I get to Ikeja, will enter bus to Ọgba, then take bus to Abule Egba??
Oshodin, ikeja, iyana ipaja and Abule Egba is a straight route via lagos Abeokuta express way. Ogba is a different axis entirely. Are u new in lagos?
HealthRe: How To Survive The Current Hot Weather In Nigeria by ictplotter(m): 4:02pm On Feb 16, 2024
Righteousness2:
What we are witnessing in the weather are the signs of imminent return of the KING of kings.

In Matthew JESUS Christ was angry with the Pharisee and saduces because they could not discern the signs of the first coming of JESUS CHRIST despite all the sins and prophecies given.

The same thing is happening on Earth right now.
So many on earth are totally unaware.of the signs of the times.
They are busy blaming this or that, others are gathering money to fight the climate and so on.

Listen ladies and gentlemen! The changes in the weather are the signs of the imminent coming of JESUS CHRIST. Nobody can do anything about it.

If you are a student of the bible, you know it is going to get worse leading into the great tribulations after the bride of Christ is taken away.

Read the book of Revelations to have some knowledge if what is coming on this Earth.

Set your priority right!
Be ready! LIVE ready!
This ship is sinking!!
JESUS CHRIST will appear in the skies at any moment.
Seun is very stupid, for allowing a demon lik u to stay in NL. You turning this forum to jamboree with ur religious bigotry. The funny thing is if a Muslim repeat this ur stupidity of religious fanaticism he will tagged terrorist and ban from here.
RomanceRe: Jesse Jane And Boyfriend, Brett Hasenmueller Dead After Suspected Overdose by ictplotter(m): 12:31am On Jan 26, 2024
Righteousness2:
WHILE JESUS CHRIST LIVE FOR GOD WHO CREATED HIM.
John 17 vs 3
This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent "messager", Jesus Christ.
RomanceRe: Jesse Jane And Boyfriend, Brett Hasenmueller Dead After Suspected Overdose by ictplotter(m): 12:29am On Jan 26, 2024
WHILE JESUS CHRIST LIVE FOR GOD WHO CREATED HIM.
John 17 vs 3
This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent "messager", Jesus Christ.
RomanceRe: Jesse Jane And Boyfriend, Brett Hasenmueller Dead After Suspected Overdose by ictplotter(m): 12:28am On Jan 26, 2024
Righteousness2:
Ladies and Gentlemen, take the matter of your Eternity serious.
There is Life after Death. Which is Forever and Ever.

Don't Joke or play with the privilege breath in your Nostrils.

No matter the prayer made for the dead, There is no repentance after death.

Heaven is real.
Hell fire is real

Live in the Conciousness of your Eternity
Live for JESUS Christ.
Live with JESUS Christ.
WHILE JESUS CHRIST LIVE FOR GOD WHO CREATED HIM.
John 17 vs 3
This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent "messager", Jesus Christ.

PoliticsRe: Edo 2024: Another Governorship Aspirant Withdraws, Endorses Asue Ighodalo by ictplotter(m): 5:31pm On Jan 06, 2024
Any politician who is gaining popularity in nairaland is alway the loser in the final result. E.g Peter obi, Maduka Godwin, Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour etc this Asue case is not different, Obaseki is not a grassroot politician and hav alot enemies over body anybody he support will fail woefully. this is a sitting governor who lost his ward, local govt, senatorial to unpopular LP candidates in edo south.
Whoever Oshomiole endorse is the next governor of edo state. This is Tinubu inec, nothing concern him n free n fair election, his target is 2027.
Imo and kogi blueprint will be use in edo state n Tinubu aim is to turn nigeria in to one party system when he will be alpha and omega.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity The Most Radical Faith On Earth With This Bible Verses. by ictplotter(op): 10:30am On Dec 30, 2023
Cortexhills99:
Do not just pick a particular verse but read through the beginning to end and seek understanding of the Holy Spirit of God
Understanding of holy spirit for a book that was heavily translated and edited by Satanic Roman and English emperors to suit themselves. What does holy spirit has to do with understanding a book written in a simple English?
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity The Most Radical Faith On Earth With This Bible Verses. by ictplotter(op): 10:26am On Dec 30, 2023
franktolk:
Jesus was simply speaking metaphorically in those verses you've quoted.

Jesus was telling us that his word will divide people, even within families.

Have you not seen some families disowning their child just because he accepts the Lord Jesus ?

Have you not seen some people getting really pissed off just because someone mentioned Jesus or just at the sight of the cross?

Jesus in Matthew 5 , verse 43 - 48 says we should love those who persecute us.

Matthew 5:43-45

Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous
Gullible explanation, what is metaphorical or ironical in the above Bible verse. I know ur next excuse will be a canal mind will not understand a Bible that was translated and edited by our Colonia slaves master to suit themselves .
Christianity EtcChristianity The Most Radical Faith On Earth With This Bible Verses. by ictplotter(op): 9:27am On Dec 30, 2023
Why blaming a peaceful Islam for radicalism and terrorism while Bible openly preaching radicalism, hates, disunity and terrorism but this is left for the western and America propagandists to answer?

Just imagine it was a Quran verses that stated this below but not Quran but Bible.

Matthew 10:34-36
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's foes will be members of one's own household"

Luke 14 vs 26.
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Male First Born: 30 Years Old, Unemployed And Living In Your Parents House by ictplotter(m): 12:57pm On Dec 29, 2023
YourBestWriter:
na that private university own worst pass. imagine after spending over a million on school fees, and no good job for years. very sad.

I've already sworn to never let my children know the road to Nigeria. That is why I am refusing to marry now because I haven't seen a woman that share in that vision. all of them are looking for marriage quick quick and start dropping kids. I ain't marrying until my japa ambition is finally complete.
Poorest mindset... japa slave Master.
PoliticsRe: I Present To You The Next Edo State Governor by ictplotter(m): 8:56pm On Dec 28, 2023
Whoever Oshomiole support will be the next governor of edo.
definitely Oshomiole and apc will present their candidate from edo north . There is nothing lik edo south block votes, benin city as capital is not housing the bini people alone but people from every part of the state and Nigeria at large.
Whoever Obaseki support will lose, that man must go to prison.

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