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Dis Guy:Abeg, keep when you don't know what to say. DID I IN ANY WAY OR FORM SAY I DISLIKE THE SUDANESE OR IGALA STATEMENT. I actually don't believe the Sudanese and Jewish statement so keep shush next time and don't assume stuff. |
seeklove:Okay 1.) There wasn't any DNA structure given during that lecture. So far I’m reading the first book he recommended. According to him, His supposed prove is based on culture similarities, The Sudanese word "gboo" and the Igala "Onigbo or something like that". That's there so called proof. I wasn't provided a freaking DNA. That's the reason why I never believed. The Igala part maybe true but the others I doubt. I never believed the Jewish ancestry so many people are claiming we have. Again, during the lecture, No DNA similarities were provided. Culture and language similarities was provided, DNA wasn't. The only way I’ll believe that statement is if DNA similarities were provided. I didn't trust them because they didn't provide a DNA proof, not because they are white (so don't accuse stuff). Moreover, I don't trust anything about African history written by European, so far many Afrocentric books have destroyed what I used to think was true. I don't trust history book written by people that aren't from that region of the world. Simple as that. Like Fela once said "Teacher don't teach me nonsense". Would you believe a Chinese philosopher about European history or would you believe a European philosopher about European history? That's my question to you. Weren't this the same philosophers that claimed African ancestors didn't do anything but just sat their black asses down and watch as generations passed? Weren't they the ones who claimed one tribe is better than the other tribe causing a lot of wars in Africa? Deceiving people to believe they are different from other tribes in their country is one of the problems in Africa. Ever wondered why the Tutsis and Hutsis got into a war. Using culture and language similarities is their supposed prove. For all ya'll saying they right, they are right. NO DNA SIMILARITIES WAS PROVIDED. It's like saying the Yoruba, Igbo and every freaking country/ethnic groups are related just because their culture have some similarities. I can actually state Igbo’s mixed up with Europeans and started providing some stupid culture similarities like "oh they had a king and we had a king. They used a democratic-republic type of government and so did we". If I gave you that statement without providing any DNA fact would any of ya'll believe that true. According to book, they claimed we have linguistic ties with Yoruba, Ewe, Bini, Igwala and Idoma. How come only igwala were used as our ancestors? How come Yoruba, Bini, Iduoma or Ewe tribe of Ghana weren't used? So far, my teacher's lecture and the first book I read, talked about culture similarities and language similarities. Using that argument shouldn't that mean we also descended from Yoruba, Bini, Iduoma or Ewe tribe of Ghana. I believed the Igala part but the Sudanese and Jewish part I don't believe at, all until someone provides a DNA prove. Oh and before you assume something, Ask first. Like I told you before, NO DNA PROVE WAS PROVIDED so I’m suppose to believe their statement just because of language similarities and culture similarities. If that's it then we also descended from every tribe in Nigeria seeing that there is one culture we all share "bride price" culture. They also claimed we have language similarities with the tribes provided above which also means we came from too. (Shouldn’t it?) 2.) Take a look at Omotola Jalade, Yomi Abiola and Desmond Elliot, do either three look 100% Igbo or 100% Yoruba? Omotola is half Yoruba, half Delta Igbo. Desmond is half Yoruba, half Igbo. Yomi is half Yoruba, half Igbo. Take a look at all three; they look like a mixture of 2 tribes. So you're telling me if I missed up an Igbo women with a Fulani man, their offspring is suppose to come out look like one or the other? Or is the offspring going to come out looking like half of both? If I mixed a Sudanese with a Nigerian, would their offspring come out looking like a Nigerian or a Sudanese? Or will the offspring come out looking like a mixture of both. Since you love DNA, let me teach something seeing that I’m biology major. Every tribe in Africa has a similar DNA structure, but we all have distinctive features. Let’s take a look at the so called "Igbotic feature" (example: Nkem Owoh) with the so called yorubatic feature (example: Yemi Blaq). Does any of that features look alike? No it doesn't. If you mix those two features together, do you think their offsring will come out have a "supposed" igbotic feature or "supposed" yorubatic features or will the child come have a mixture of both. That's my question to you. There was a girl in this website that claims she's half Nigerian and half Kenyan. When you look at her picture, you could easily see her Kenyan features and her Nigerian features. If every tribe looks alike, how come we can tell each other apart? That's another question. 3.) my third question is if we supposedly mixed up with Jews and we are descendant of Igala(which I believe a little bit) and some Sudanese tribe, shouldn't everyone of us have at least a tiny bit of similar features with Ramsey Noah. Ramsey Noah is a mixture of Yoruba and Israelis. According to my professor Yoruba's also descended from Igala people, if that's so many Igbo people should have at least a tiny bit of similar features with Ramsey Noah, seeing that his a poster child of that mixture. 4.) Igbo’s never encountered Israelis until recently. Our ancestors encountered Portuguese and Britons. The past 2 generations encountered Israelis and I don't think all of us started mixing up with them in past the 2 generations. If we supposedly have admixture somewhere then it's most likely from Portuguese or Britons, not Israelis. Before you tell me to read up on our people, I’ll suggest that same statement to you. Read up on Igbo people cause if you have then you would have know we never encountered them until recently. 5.) I actually asked about the Egyptian statement. According to my teacher and the 2nd teacher, Igbo’s didn't migrate to Egypt, neither did we descended from them. So don't you think it's biased believing one supposed belief of origin and not the other belief of origin? Also don't you think its biased using culture and language similarities to defend you're argument but not using DNA similarities? That's my question to you 6.) You claimed we are not interested in genealogy but whites are. That's statement is correct. Take a look around Africa and African tribes, how many African tribes are claiming their ancestors deprived from some foreign country rather than Africa. How many have fought over that. Answer: A lot. Guess where they get those statements from? Genealogies. That's one of the reasons Africa is bleeped up. A friend of mine from Rwanda told me a history about their war that I never even knew. She said that a genealogy from Germany claimed that the Tutsis were mixture of whites and black Africans. He also told them that their features and culture are more like Europeans than the tribes in Rwanda and they also more evolved and educated than the other tribes in Rwanda (which we all know is a biased statement). That created a tension. According to her, the Tutsis thought they were better than other tribes in Rwanda, they also believed their ancestors mixed up with whites. That belief and tension kept on increasing until something ignited for a fight against both main tribes. 7.) I read a little bit of the article from the Israelis guy (Shamir (no last name was provided)), so far all he talked about was how some Igbo words and Hebrew have similarities and some of the patterns we supposedly share with them but one thing that stood out was a statement where he claimed, Igbo’s and Jews are related because we both went through a starving genocide (The Biafra and we all know Holocaust). Seriously, does have similar tragedy a proof that we mixed up with them? It's like me writing a book saying that the Darfur Sudanese descended from African-Americans. Using his point of argument, I could state AA's went through slavery and the Darfur’s are going through slavery as we speak. I haven't read the whole article, my mother wanted to read it so I gave it to her. But the parts I read, so far isn't prove. I might as well say Igbo people are descendant of Yoruba people because we share culture similarities. That was what they used in the so called "truthful argument". Like you said, they need to provide DNA proof before I believe that statement. Since no one have provided any DNA proof, why should I believe them? Please explain that to me. Until they start providing DNA proof that's the only way i'll believe their statement. Thank you very much |
This is a freaking statement a supposed "African history teacher" said to the students. I take an African history class in my school. There are more white people in my school than black. So in my class there are alot of white kids, few AA's and alot of African student. We're talking about the origin of African tribes like a week ago and my "supposed educated" teacher claimed the Igbo tribe of Nigeria were from some Sudanese tribe and Igala of Nigeria. According to him, we left these people and created our tribe and then somehow, someway he mixed up with Isreal people. How the Bleep did we mix up with Isrealian? How many of us, have actually stepped foot in that country. When i asked him where is his prove seeing that his incorrect. He gave me book written by Europeans and a freaking article written by some Isreal man. Not one of his prove is from a Nigerian, an Igbo or even an African. Seriously why do white folks give out the wrong information and try to act like their statement is the truth. Today's, he was teaching was about African features (i thought it was stupid seeing that many people in Africa have different, not one single tribe in Africa have one feature). He used old pictures of slaves that claimed they from some specific tribe. When he came to Ethiopia, he used a picture of some Ethiopian tribe to explain how they supposedly mixed up with Indians. My friend from Ethiopia told him that they mixed up with Arabs, not Indians and one girl infront us from that Ethiopia got up and screamed at my friend and the teacher. She said "we didn't mix up with indians, neither did we mix up with Arabs you slowpoke. We East Africans, we have east africans features or better yet Horn of Africans features" and then she just walked off. I was weak as hell. To me East Africans do not look mixed except (Ethiopians, Eritrea, Djibouti and Somalian). The rest look like black people. Hell even the Horn of African's i've met, look ordinary to me, nothing about them stands out. Anyway, when he came to Nigeria, he used picture of some freaking slave lady (Who looks nothing like igbo people) and Olaudah Equiano (Who i still doubt is Igbo, his freaking name doesn't even look Igbo). Anyway, he used celebrities to prove that recent Igbo people do not look like our ancestors. What the hell, Are we suppose to look like our ancestors from 400 years ago? Are we suppose to have the same features. He used oluchi, Chinua achebe and phillip Eweagwali to claim how some igbos still resemble our ancestors but not completely. Then he used genevive Nnaji (a freaking movie star), Ndidi, Ikenna (a freaking model) and some extremely lightskin i don't know to claim how some don't resemble our ancestors anymore. He even used begin lightskin in his freaking stupid claim and he had the audacity to argue with me (ME an Igbo girl from Nigeria, raised and born in Nigeria). When i told him, mixing up with other tribes in Nigeria can be a factor for us "supposedly" not looking like our ancestors. He claimed that if i read the book he recommended to me, then i would have known mixing up with tribes can change features but not completely. So according to him and the freaking book he recommended "If i bring my father next to a 100% igbo man, my father is suppose to look alot like him, even though he has another tribe in him. If i bring Desmond Elliot, Omotola Jalade,Yomi or my close friend, they are suppose to look like 100% Igbos or 100% yoruba or 100% hausa, even though they have other tribes in their blood. So a black and white mix changes features but tribe and tribe mix doesn't? What the hell is that. When i told him, his statement are false, this stupid white girl told me "It's not all that serious" and a freaking Ugandian boy (that i bet you have never steeped foot in Nigeria) claimed the teacher is right. Abi ooh, his not even Nigerian. I was the only Nigerian girl there and i wished there were more Nigerian students there so we can prove his incorrect. I actually thought the Ghanaian in my class can stand with me but the girl said "didn't Igbos claim they are descendant of Jews, maybe I should listen". It pissed me off. I thought the guy is cool as hell, i mean he still is. The guy watch African movies from every region in Africa and some days we watch African movies in his class, so i thought he was cool. I didn't know he was biased. I'm actually starting to doubt the claim that Hausa and Fulani are from Sudan. Abi, seeing the statement they gave about us. I actually went the the 2nd african history teacher in our school (We only have 4 African history teacher and all of them are white). Anyway i went to her and asked her where are Igbos from? Again she gave a biased answer, she claimed that Igbos are mixture of tribes (hence the reason our ancestry can't be traced). She also said some have Jewish ancestry. I hate when people give the wrong information about people, i seriously hate that. |
rita I object. Hell i just finished watching a video of some indian man killing his daughter-in-law because she was black. Please abeg, this Caste system decieves them. Abeg, please don't marry. If you have to, make sure you married him in Naija or USA or UK. Do not go to India. |
I feel sorry for alot of you people in this forum. Tufiakwa. For those asking what is building pyramids can do for Nigeria? Idiot, use your brain. It's an African ancient artifacts. Tourist would love to see it. Tufia for Nigerians. I hear people saying that Nigerians are lap dogs to the white man. That we believe everything they said. I think people are right. So a West African tribe cannot build pyramid? Someone asked why igbo ancestors didn't tell their offspring about this pyramids. I guess the same reason, Igbo ancestors didn't tell their children some of the past cultures. Hell maybe it;s the same reason Zimbabwe ancestors didn't tell them about the Great zimbabwe walls. Only God knows, abeg go to a white man and let him tell you that an egyptian magically flew to Nigeria and built that pyramid and then instantly flew back. The Jen girl is actually right, alot of ya'll are stupid. She backed up all her arguments with facts, gave you websites for you to check out while the rest of ya'll arguing with her talked out of your ass. |
bawomolo:To get a human blood test, you need to do a dna analization. Abortion can be done by any quark? oga you dey crazy. Even though i'm against abortion, all i'm going to say is, Do you know how hard it is to do that shit? you need to be an expert to do it. If a quark does abortion, they can nip the woman's stomach. Even a slight cut off apart from the baby can actually destroy a woman's womb or cause the woman to bleed to death. Not easy at all. Abeg, make you go to abortion to a woman and come tell me if it's easy. Using herbs to destroy the fetus in early age is easy. Using herbs to destroy the fetus after he/she has developed is impossible. Cutting the fetus after it's developed is hard. I had to do a presentation about Abortion. Like i said i'm against abortion so i had to explain how evil that stupid procedure is. Anyway, i learnt few things about it. Unless, Nigeria uses chemical to destroy the fetus then you're right any quack can do it. But for Nigeria, i highly doubt we use chemical, I mean take a look at how many women in Nigeria have bleed to death because of abortion (to me, it serves them right, killing an innocent child for no reason). As for Forsenic, if though i haven't seen it performed in real life or read up on it, but based on what i see in all this fake police shows and the real police shows in America. If you have a way to determine DNA, then it's possible. If you don't then it's impoosible. |
I hate reporters sometimes. Abeg, if the man never said he was going to Europe for medical treatment, why write a report saying he is. Chei. Reporters, reporters, oh well na you we wait on for news. UK news, me i no 4 you ohh. I watched a documentary about you ohh but like i said, na you we dey wait on for news. When Yaradua leaves fo Europe then we go mointor his reason for his leave. |
Chei, so this separation have traveled to Yoruba also. umm oga that ask what does Enugu, Anambra, etc has Enugu have coal. Untapped. Anambra has crude oil, ceramites, bauxties and Natural Gas. Again it's untapped. According to wikipedia, Ebonyi State has several solid mineral resources and Salt. Also it's has great agriculture. N-way, all of this remains untapped except Ebonyi State but according to wikipedia, Ebonyi does a little mining. Coal, Crude oil, natural gas, bauxties, ceramites and salt are Natural resources. Hell, salt is traded alot all over the word but again the Salt in Ebonyi state remains untapped. To me, keeping the resources untapped is a great idea. Take a look at Niger delta, Oginiland and all other that allowed their resources to be tapped. Thank God, Anambra made sure their crude oil remains untapped. I would hate to see my people in the same boat as niger-deltans. |
bawomolo:Since Nigeria is able to do Blood test, Abortion, etc then Forsenic test is possible. |
Nigerian Legislators Approve National Minimum Wage BYLUKA BINNIYAT & TORDUE SALEM-(VANGUARD)-The Nigerian House of Representatives was Thursday engulfed in a rowdy session while considering a bill that proposes N30,000 minimum wage for workers in the country. The bill was later passed for second reading. Officials of the Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) and the Trade Union Congress (TUC) who watched the debate from the visitors gallery enthused over the debate the Bill generated, saying it showed the beauty of democracy and that the N30,000 would be used as a benchmark for negotiation. The Bill for an Act to Amend the Minimum Wage (Amendment) Act, 2000 and for the Other Matters Connected Therewith, 2008, which was read by Mrs. Doris Uboh (PDP, Delta), was passed only after the Speaker was intensely lobbied. The first attempt by the sponsor, Mrs. Uboh, to have it passed failed when majority of her colleagues in a voice vote opposed it. The National Minimum Wage Amendment Act 2000, proposed N5,500 minimum wage, but the amendment bill now seeks to increase it to N30,000. Mrs. Uboh in her submission argued that an upward review of workers’ salaries had become imperative, considering the worsening economic situation in the country. The history of minimum wage dates back to 1945 when the Harragin Commission which created senior service and junior service raised salaries and wages and eventually created minimum wage by stipulating N300 per annum then. Another notable review was done by the 1959 Commission on minimum wage headed by Louis Mbanefo which recommended 15 to 20 percent increase in the wages of workers, but excluding housing allowances. She said based on a research carried out by the sponsors of the Bill, the Committee on Labour and Productivity was able to ascertain that a minimum wage of N30,000 was adequate for workers for a short term, adding that the legislation would provide a time frame to review workers salaries after every five years. “Thirdly, the necessary legal framework needed to bind government to carry out periodic reviews will be put in place; all these fundamentals are considered for the benefit of all Nigerians aimed at improving the lives of people,” she said. N5,500 pay ridiculous —Rep Minority Leader of the House, Ali Ndume, described as ridiculous for a civil servant to earn as low as N5,500 per month, making it difficult for anyone to pay school fees and feed their families. Lawmakers against the Bill argued that the proposed increase, if passed into law, would be unsustainable, coming at a time the global economic meltdown was closing in on Nigeria. Erstwhile Speaker Pro Tempore, Mr. Terngu Tsegba (PDP Gboko/Tarkaa-Benue), advised the House to shelve the Bill, since it was not within the purview of the Parliament or National Assembly to legislate on wages. He said matters concerning wages were not on the Exclusive Legislative list, and therefore were best left to states. NLC, TUC express satisfaction Reacting, Vice President of the NLC, Comrade Abdullahi Danda Bungudu said: “We are very pleased and we appreciate the Honourable members for passing the Bill to the next level. At the beginning of the proceedings we had mixed feelings. But at the end, we really appreciate what the members did. “Though we had asked for N52,000, but I believe that from a minimum wage of N7,500 to N30,000, it is something we can begin to negotiate on. In salary increment issues, negotiation is the main item. Comrade John Kolawole, Secretary-General of TUC said: “One thing we have seen here is the beauty of democracy. We want to appreciate what the Honourable members have done, not necessarily because it has met our expectations, but that they raised the issue, is highly commendable. The executive has been dragging on the matter. But the House has taken the bull by the horn. The states should be getting prepared for its implementation, the economic situation bites more on the masses. We have seen salaries of the upper people jerked up, it is only when it comes to poor workers that you find all kinds of arguments. But today, we have seen that we have a people-oriented Assembly." http://www.intermediallc.com/nigerian_legislatures_approve_national_minimum_wage.html |
Ethiopia Asks Britain To Return Stolen Treasures BY ANDREW JOHNSON-(IND)-Ethiopia is demanding that Britain's museums return some of its most significant religious treasures. President Girma Wolde-Giorgis has personally intervened in a dispute to get the artefacts, including the Ethiopian royal crown, returned home 140 years after they were "looted" by marauding British troops. The President has written to the British Museum, the Victoria & Albert Museum, the British Library and Cambridge University Library seeking the restitution of more than 400 so-called "treasures of Magdala", which were stolen by British soldiers following a battle in 1868. In the letter, obtained by The Independent on Sunday, the President wrote: "I must state that Ethiopians have long grieved at the loss of this part of their national heritage. Ethiopians feel that this act of appropriation had no justification in international law. I feel, therefore, that the time has come for the return of Ethiopia's looted treasures." Among the items being held in the UK is an 18-carat gold crown and more than 300 priceless manuscripts, including Christian scriptures. Experts say the issue is particularly sensitive for Ethiopians because many of the artefacts hold deep religious significance for them. These include nine tabots, or sacred wooden altar slabs, which are recognised as so holy that the British Museum has pledged never to display them. When a tabot was returned in 2005 after being discovered in the back of an Edinburgh church, thousands of people turned out to greet its return in Addis Ababa. The objects were among those seized by British soldiers after the storming of the Fortress of Magdala in 1868, a punitive expedition that followed the kidnap of several Britons. Emperor Tewodros committed suicide after the battle. According to contemporary accounts, British soldiers slaughtered hundreds of poorly armed Ethiopians after the battle, and then "jostled each other" to grab a piece of the emperor's blood-stained shirt, which they tore from his body. They also looted the citadel and a nearby church, carrying off treasures that included "an infinite variety of gold, and silver and brass crosses", as well as "heaps of parchment royally illuminated". British museums have in the past resisted calls for artefacts from their collections to be returned to their countries of origin, but it is understood that Neil MacGregor of the British Museum and Mark Jones of the V&A have already met the Ethiopian ambassador to discuss the matter. Museums often argue in restitution cases that the artefacts are better off in Britain because anyone in the world can view them, and the V&A is known to have asked Addis Ababa whether the silver crown of Emperor Tewodros, which it returned to Ethiopia in 1925, is available for public view. The V&A said yesterday that discussions were still ongoing, even though the President's letter was sent in February this year. The four organisations involved have also held meetings over the way forward. The Magdala treasure differs to other restitution cases, such as that of the Elgin Marbles, because it is acknowledged that the treasures were simply stolen. "It was straightforward looting," a spokeswoman at the Ethiopian embassy in London said. A spokeswoman for Afromet, an organisation that has campaigned for the restitutions of the items, said: "These museums hold most of Ethiopia's heritage. It means far more to Ethiopians than it could ever do to anyone else." http://www.intermediallc.com/ethiopia_asks-britain_to_return_stolen_treasure.html |
SeanT21:Aren't you a liberian? Why are you insulting your own people. Anyway Vanguard newspaper were the ones who did the ranking. If you want you're countries name in it. Why don't you go talk to them. I don't think it's a good idea though. |
I can't believe this year is when you guys learnt about this. I read this about a year ago but in another website. Different from the one posted. N-way, Niger-Deltans need to stop kidnapping foreigners. For number 7, why didn't they just write Russia. We all know that place is in Russia, why don't they just write Russia? That can confuse people. |
There is no one true God. Everyone believe their own God is the one true God. I don't knock Wole Soyinka, he can believe in whatever he wants. |
I'll say gay son. It's better than having a pregnant daughter at such a young age. |
Can someone teach me how to write and read in Igbo? Abeg, i need am. I always feel left out in all the Igbo writing topic. I know to how speak it though and understand it but writing and reading, not so much. I also need help in Nigerian pidgin. Me i don't know how to write it. I kinda speak it, i understand it alot, i can read it but i don't know how to write it (well i do know how to write it alittle bit) I need a teacher. I go pay you ooh. 5 naira every week!!!!! Best deal on earth. |
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when you don't know what to say. 