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blackbriar:
Jeez!!!!
Stop spewing garbage.
Trains travel at different speeds depending on the infrastructure (track, and rolling stock , signaling etc)
1. Commuter trains travel less than 80km/h
2. Metro trains travel between 80 and120km/h
2. High speed line traveling above 200km/h.

Did you notice the shape of the rolling stock??
That’s for the speed at which the rolling stock will be traveling.
The Shinkansen doe 250km/h on a ballast less track.fucking expensive

i am a chinese.

in my country, a bullet train , runs at 350km to 400km when it is running at its even speed. but if 2 cities are very close, say, 150 km from each other, the train needs time to accelerate and decelerate .

my city GZ is 150km away from HK. the bullet spends 45 minutes with a speed of less than 200km/hour while the green normal train spends 60 minutes . because, there are 5 stations between GZ and HK. only because it is easier to buy a bullet train ticket that people choose bullet train to do the short distance travel.

the advantage of bullet trains is represented for its long distance travel . it takes 6 hours from GZ to BJ, 2200km away, with only 5 stations too, but the stations are far between. the accelerate and decelerate time is negligible compared to the even running time. it costs the mormal trains 24 hours from GZ to BJ.

the metro in my city GZ is much slower, it costs about 3 minutes , including stopping time , to cover 1 station in downtown areas, which is about 15km from east to West and 10km from north to south. one station is 1km to 1.5km from each other. the metro will run faster at the surburb which is 50 times larger than the urban area, but the interval distance is longer too.so it costs 5 minutes for a station.

my city GZ has the third longest metro system in the world and in china the same, after SH and BJ.

Goel:
Indians don't attack anyone without reason. Even with conflict, they first prefer police or help before attempting anything like that. Unless there is a big issue like rape, street shooting etc., mobs don't come up.

We know what African/ Nigerian immigrants are know for in India. They are never in news for any positive contribution to India anyway.

India doesn't need anyone's prayers anyway. It has done a lot itself and will do without any foreign prayers for it.

No, that one is China.

Africa has more toiletless population than India statistically. India is media focus because India having this problem is a big deal, African countries having such problems isn't.

Over it, African countries don't have formalisation and data system like India to record living standards of population like India does. Some of the don't even know their population.
Case closed.

we chinese buy kidneys from nepal and india. that is cheaper.

a chinese kidney is 200 000 renminbi (30 000dollars), an indian kidney is 50 000 renminbi(8000dollars).

there are 300 000 india students in china studying medicines. go ask them. they will tell you the truth.

the bought kidneys from india and nepal are an open secret in chinse hospitals.


we do not kill african for their kidneys, we buy, mainly from dirt cheap india. we chinese are business oriented and humane.

the same to USA, they buy kidneys from mexico.

DisGuy:
What your definition of a slow train? 180kmh is standard railway anywhere.

it is almost 100 km/hour . from HK to beijing, it cost 24 hours to cover 2300km.

if the bullet trains run among the satellite cities around the metropolis , they will be slow at less than 200km , for they have to stop feequently.

but the smooth feeling is wonderful, especisally during a rainy night and the glittering city lights flashing past like a dream.

the slow trains are more for the romantic students and those farmer-turn-worker-turn-enterpreneurs in the cities who still miss their younster time squeezing for a standing place in a crowded slow train.

chukxie:
I beg to disagree with you. Calling Chinese trains "garbage" is totally low and untrue. Have you ever been on the Fuxing trains? They are the world's fastest conventional high speed train in regular service, with a operating speed of 350 km/h. How can anyone honestly call Chinese trains garbage? Agreed, the Japanese Shinkansen trains are classy, and efficient and punctual but so are their Chinese counterparts. If you don't mind, please, lecture us why you think Chinese trains are "garbage". Thanks.
Photo 3: The interior of a Fuxing train. Photo taken by me.

you again ? nigerian ? thanks for showing the real image of china

MrBrownJay1:
garbage...now go and compare these above trains with Japan train....China train are garbage (apart from the maglev one).

compare China with Japan...not with Nigeria!

china still better than japan, in almost all aspects.

the velocity is faster with fewer stations and less time to accelarate and decelarate . the magnitude of network is 10 times bigger. china has more bullet trains than the rest of the world put together and times 2 . the puntuality is the same , for there is no traffic jams or jumble of schedules , every line and its time is set aforehand. the japan trains are cleaner and have fewer passengers per car. japan also has bullet trains with more luxury cabins.

he is not comparing china and nigeria, he is comparing china trains in china and china trains in nigeria.

Goel:
Indians don't attack anyone without reason. Even with conflict, they first prefer police or help before attempting anything like that. Unless there is a big issue like rape, street shooting etc., mobs don't come up.

We know what African/ Nigerian immigrants are know for in India. They are never in news for any positive contribution to India anyway.

India doesn't need anyone's prayers anyway. It has done a lot itself and will do without any foreign prayers for it.

No, that one is China.

Africa has more toiletless population than India statistically. India is media focus because India having this problem is a big deal, African countries having such problems isn't.

Over it, African countries don't have formalisation and data system like India to record living standards of population like India does. Some of the don't even know their population.
Case closed.

india is not media focus.

because your passport too weak , you can not go out to see the real world. and your india media brainwash you like hell. these make you think we the world concern you.

most ppl on YouTube show friendlyness to India, because they have NEVER seen an indian in reality. you dont have money to travel abroad. and 500 million indian YouTube trolls make it look like the world belongs to you by your ranting voices.

any idea why india passport sucks ? no one wants an open defecator.


personally, i have only seen 1 toilet in india when i visited for 1 month ! IT was a pile of mud at road side, doorless.

and at the pier of kolkata bridge, i found hundreds of ppl defecating in the morning, they brushed teeth at the same time using same water from the river.

BTW, your curry food is feces,yellow,slushy,smelly !

Goel:
Indians don't attack anyone without reason. Even with conflict, they first prefer police or help before attempting anything like that. Unless there is a big issue like rape, street shooting etc., mobs don't come up.

We know what African/ Nigerian immigrants are know for in India. They are never in news for any positive contribution to India anyway.

India doesn't need anyone's prayers anyway. It has done a lot itself and will do without any foreign prayers for it.

No, that one is China.

Africa has more toiletless population than India statistically. India is media focus because India having this problem is a big deal, African countries having such problems isn't.

Over it, African countries don't have formalisation and data system like India to record living standards of population like India does. Some of the don't even know their population.
Case closed.

when he says indian are black, he means , compared with chinese, indian are black !

dont relate yourselves to latino, arabs, they dont think they are the cousins of the inferior indian.

just stand by a chinese, indian friend, you may see how black you are !

stop using made in china skin whitener ! no use for indian ! you are born to be, not tanned to be !

who cares you indian have aryan blood or not ? we call a spade spade ! you indian are black. even the fairest skinned indian are blacker than a chinese farmer ! look at those chinese working in nigeria with dark tanned skin, but they are still whiter than your bollywood wannabe caucasian

Goel:
Weak posture LOL?
Your incompetent and illiterate ass is yet to even start reasoning, defecating conspiracy theories without provide source and yet think I'm being uncomfortable at all?

I'm still replying since you are an entertainment for me. Let me see how much garbage is filled inside you.

That isn't part of our argument. I said African system can't do anything like India. So, Africa being divided 54 nations is also part of that argument since that is also a system.
Of these 54 nations, most backward ones are blacks while black ones who will equal or more degree of richness than India just have natural resources.

All of them together fail by large margins when comes to ground indicators like poverty or formalisation.

Which emotional bias I have presented so far? At first place, dig your own posts which logic or even a fact you have given so far in your posts?

Lucky numbers, black guy being president aren't reasoning. They are ad hominem arguments usually given by uneducated idiots who don't know anything about the topic at all.
My point stands in real world and not emotions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

How many times are you going to insult yourself?
I used to teach maths tutions to high school kids and I never taught them that they will become genius when they turn 36.

I'm quite sure that I don't only have ability to count more than you, I can solve more difficult mathematical problems too. But your issue isn't counting.

If you believe numbers influence your life story, you are not counting anything or doing any science.
You are making an ass out of yourself.

Why don't you provide a source for your bullshit conspiracy theory instead of getting trolled again and again? Yadavas are Sanatana Hindus.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadav

And what kind of bullshit is that "Indu Kush" garden? Inspired bullcrap from bible's eden garden? No one will plough a garden at such hot and barren place. Yavans mistook believing that mountains of Caucasus extended to other side of Indus river deep into India. So, they labeled that region "Hindu-Kush".

If you believe that this place is your imaginary garden of bible. You are fool. Indus Valley Civilisation has a history much much older than bible, christ or abrahamic stories came around. India and Iran had civilisations even before euros started to use leaves to wipe after toilet.

Religions which came from there taught world tolerance. Religions which came from desert in west only killed and enslaved people, especially from Africa.

If you are going to counter my reason with your religion garbage I'm out. Missionaries anywhere I've countered are mindless assholes anyway. Idioted, bigoted, brainless, spinless, ignorant and will never given an evidence or supporting logic for their bullshit. No wonder Europe only developed after great divergence because liberal thought made them atheists ditching christianity. And why Muslim countries are still like that. Abrahamic religions hinder progress of human society.

Indian religions have nothing to do with Abrahamic ones. We have our own world. Sooner you realise it, better for you.

India, with its rampant r8pe culture , religious strifes , racial discrimination against NE people and southern Tamil, caste system which was abolished on paper, can be a unified country ?

exluding 600 million women, 210 million muslim, 30 million NE ppl, 1 billion low castes, how many real indian left ? are you one of them ?

and, Modi is your figure head. the real power resides in the dignitaries of each state !


your whole india is a cesspool !

unifed country ? that is china , with an efficient central government and a chineseness backed up by 5000 years history.

as a chinese , i find you indian funny and entertaining ... nigeria has per capita 2183 dollars, while india 2081. you are not even qualified to flex your superiority complex before nigerian.

but anyway, we chinese already are the victims of india superioty complex. india dare look down on china, why not on nigeria ?

Goel:
How many times I have to shove up in your empty mind that black here doesn't mean color but ethnicity. What are yoy trying to prove? Indian people also have black skin. So? I don't feel any shame in that.

African skin tones are more likely to be black because of their hot weather. Indians are a diverse group because of diverse season of the country.


I can't dumber than an idiot who can't read the context even after explaining same thing thousands of times when I say word "black".

Nor I will ever dumb enough to declare community superior for a bloody luck draw number or spew bullshit that humans came from Hindu-Kush.

No, there is no one more dumb than you. Doesn't matter if you are African or not. But you're uneducated most certainly.

Also, you are yet to provide source for your imaginations on yadavs and IVC.

india full of diversity ? Hell no ! you guys automatically stick together when abroad as if you are afraid to be alone facing chinese and westerners.

you know who is indian by a nano second ! if you are pretentious, you avoid to show your own indian identity and try hard to pass for a latino or arabian, when you see another indian being caught spitting on the airport lounge !


if you feel lonely and weak, you will even befriend a pakistani . in china, no one cares you two. you live in the same community/ slum

Goel:
Skin tone is also caused by weather since sunshine affects melanin concentration in blood.

Indians, Arabs, Persians, Southeast Asians and Latinos all have European fair to very dark skin tones with changing weather. If you don't know this, you are a dumbo locked in Africa.

the indian born in china are still black ! explain !

Goel:
US can't fight Russia in Arctic, China in SCS, India in Indian ocean and Iran (or can with great difficulty) in Arabian sea. It doesn't mean that US is not powerful. It means that these countries are powerful enough to protect themselves and not attack America.

if america fights india , russia will invade afganistan again and successfully this time, to find a route to indian ocean ! they will never miss this chance.

if china fights India, all others will watch and then they will vulture on the loser party, and you know who is that party.

we chinese have fresh memory.

when, japan and china had first war in late 19th century, we chinese navy was said to be stronger than japan (just like your india' self-overconfidence today), and russia and West both watched aside. when china lost the war, russia and west "intervened" and forced japan to vomit out part of china's indemnity to them.


the point is, how we china share with the west after we defeat India.

Goel:
India has 3 nuclear submarines in service, 2 in construction and 10-12 more on drawing boards.
In two decades, it will become world's second largest nuke submarine fleet after USA.

well, we chinese are so poor, we have to build our own planes , carriers , missile s......

india , rich ! they buy from russia , US, israel , south korea.....looks like india has more arsenal than US. US has only made-in-US weapons.

however, when the war starts, we chinese have interminable ammunition right from our own military factories , while india dies whenever it finishes its foreign stocks.


even the bullets we chinese army sent to your indian's hearts are still hot from the production line!

Goel:
India's poor by western standards, not by standards of third world.

India has huge military budget despite it being low I'm percentage of GDP and a growing economy.

i am a chinese, pls tell me, in 5000 years, which war india has ever won ? lost to alexandra the great, the persian, the arabian, the mongolian, the british, and chinese.


even google says, it was a tie between pakistan n india .

your so called 4th strongest army is a flattery from the west.

the truth is, china> japan>north korea>vietnam>south korea>india>taiwan. the asia power rankings

even if india has more budget than china, it is still a weak country. only poor country thinks money can solve all probems.


look at your weak bodies that fail to grab a gold medal in olympics and your pitiful captives captured in china's POW camps. you should feel happy youtube censors those vids, with swollen face india soldiers and handicaps held by the chinese returning to india side. go check the vids in china. we see them a lot.


you guys are good at running away and raising two hands to surrender, when you see the chinese army.

Goel:
No, we sent an orbiter. We will first land a rover on Moon next year and then Mars rover project will start.

china is , we have done. india is, we will. and then, they forget as usual.

we china have sent another 2 men and one woman to our space station last week.


we can give india a surgical therapy from outer space.

maybe it is still tolerable when india tries to compare itself with china about toilet numbers. but it is extremely ridiculous for india to compare with china about top 100 worldwide university and space projects. you indian have nothing to do with IQ .

Goel:
The cost of working and living in India is low. Because inflation is low in India, India looks poor than actually it is. It is actually closer to upper middle income countries at social levels unlike rest of third world.

income for an average indian , 120 dollars per month. vegan meals, 50rupees. chicken meals, 130rupees.

income for an average chinese, 950 dollars per month. a bowl of noodles, 140 rupees. a meal with rice and meat , 240rupees.

electronics, india prices double of china prices. because india has to import and tax and shipment fees enssue.

the money saved by indian is 20 dollars per month. by chinese is 500 dollars.

that is why the world sees 200 million outbound chinese travelers annually. they have more savings .


india is upper middle income country ? even china dare not claim. that is for Czech, uraguay. out of 213 countries, you india ranks 167 GDP per capita. china ranks 59.

you can not buy a russia plane with your GDP PPP. dont fool yourself.


stay in your india sheethole

Goel:
China and Russia also counted deaths but they didn't announce to avoid embarrassment.

you should study chinese language and read chinese domestic news.

china closes a whole city for 1 single case and the wechat app tracks back his 14 days whereabouts. and all the people and places he has contacted would be tracked down too. the news paper report this in china , in chinese language !

you indian die like flies , no fire woods to burn bodies, ditectly dumping in ganges river. you dont have oxygen !

covid cases are as a rarity in china as an ubiquitousness in india. of course you dont know china. the only thing you can do is waiting for your own india covid goes away, you are lying on your slum bed, too poor to go hospital, and daydreaming china is as shietty as your pathetic india.

and china will never care to let you low creature to know it. china gives easy visas to westerners and wish these people to understand the true china, but china does not give a fig to whether an indian or an african know it or not. and, india has zero media reporters based in china. india has to conjure up anti china news by whatever materials they can grab from the West media. that is why we chinese view you indian as a joker.

toiletless slumdia

Goel:
It seems that you didn't read my post. Hinduism doesn't have a concept of conversion. Being culturally Indian is. Hinduism. Until 1940s, Hinduism was rather a synonym for Indian than a religious identification.

hinduism is as disgusting as islam, both convert by using female's wombs. they marry, they spread, they grow
like weeds. both are born to be ! that is why you can NEVER jump out of your narrow mindedness to embrace the world. india is peaceful when it is facing china and has to behave gingerly. when india is left alone, it will bully others. go ask nepal, bangladesh. every neighbors hate your hinduism

Goel:
Africans were richer than Asians at that time, not "advanced". China, India and Japan etc. still had industries and internal political systems during foreign occupation also.

Asia-Pacific countries were settled civilisations just like Europe. We just lost wars to Europeans and came under their control. It was bound to happen that East Asia, India and Southeast Asia will again go up quite fast once Europe leaves since we all also were advanced innovative civilisations like European empires.

Africans meanwhile were tribal and nomads most of time.

It was not bound to happen to east asia. china , japan, thailan and nepal are the only 4
c ountries in asia that were not colonized by the west.


if we china and japan were colonized, we should speak english as if that is the pride anf statUS of education. but , all powerful countries do not speak english. look at china, russia, japan,france..... only India, a wannabe "superpooper" holds english at a HIGH place. and it assumes china used to be as low as india.

dont you ever relate china to india. dont put these 2 countries in one sentence. it is a humiliation for china .

living on this planet for 5000years, learning from UK for 250 years, india still a craap.

look at HK, a chinese concession, and singapore, a chinese dominating country with UK colonizing history, they both develop much faster than india.


it is the race reason , your india race is lower than chinese race

Goel:
Partition of India violence was more like an Indian civil war than a solution.

British divided the country so that united India doesn't become another threat to western imperialist powers like Soviet Union, China and Japan became.
India was a cut to a smaller size and always busy fighting Pakistan.

without UK, there is no india as a country. in history, subcontinent has been 100+
principalities, colonized nonstop by macedom, iran, arab, mongolia (even your name was changed to Mogul) , portugal , france and UK.

if you were as strong as china, how could you end up as a colony ? the Khyber pass is the only way for the invaders to come and rule india. but you guys even failed to control such an easily defendable pass.

nowadays, your fear comes true again. Taliban is in charge of afgainistan, and india is once again under the looming threat from the northwest. and things are funnier now. we china , russia ditch you india when we discuss the situation with Taliban. india , again, shows that , it is a nuisance in the world.

Goel:
India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

india is the son of UK for 250 years. enough time for india to pick up any crumbs of knowledge. but it only took 2 most trashy items, english and democracy.. this proves that, the gap between china n india is not time, it is IQ level.

tiktok owner has 10 billion dollar wealth, what about your pathetic CEO in google ? we chinese contribute Bosses, you india provides CEOs , which are employees too. a modern day butler.

dont you mock africa. your india GDP per capita is barely more than africa. but it still lags behind nigeria.

no oNE cares your whole country 's GDP, we care per capita. if GDP more important, why even a citizen in swirtzerland dare look down on china ? it is a condescending humor to you indian guys that we dont mention per capita. in china , we dont have West political correctness. we call a spade spade. we regard per capita as well as life expectation and worldwide university ranking.

you guys only live to 65 . and zero university among Top 100. stupid and weak .


go develop your proud IT industry. at least , in china, we take good care of our agriculture, and our 5G HIGH tech is applied to agriculture now. you indian are living in a dream. and we chinese are living the dream. big difference.

in china, we have a meme for India, 印度只有一亿人口. india has only 100 million human population( the rest are not humans) . of course , your few upper class study in the west and in china (mainly for medicines) and struggle to stay there .

there are 30 000 india programmers in shenzhen alone. how to stay and renew visas? go to HK and return, a quarterly visa rush. some lucky barstaeds marry a chinese person and his or her inferior india DNA into chinese race.


you serious dont know how we chinese treat you guys in china. due to lacking of money, indian, african and pakistani , all live in north of the railway station in guangzhou (the biggest first tier city for businessmen from undeveloped countries) . the russian stay in south of railway, the arabian muslim live in the hotels among chinese community. the westetners in pearl river new town. you and pakistani are at the bottom. who cares , you look the same.

we seldom sit beside an indian/pakistani in the bus. even old people stand . no indian films,no indian food, no indian products, you are a zero in china. we even have an african restaurant, in indian~pakistani~african community. but no indian food.

your rich (by india standard) businessmen are ignored and treated as thin air. in exhinition, such as canton fair,the biggrst one in china, indian are strictly forbidden to snap photos or take away samples. you indisn guys steal and copy our chinese designs. you pretend to buy.

you dont even realize your international image which is positively related to your country's wealth.

in HK and phollipines, you guys are faring worse. i have seen indian behave like an idiiot in HK before the richness . and the lonely and timid and awkward indian eating with his fingers in a remote table in a phollipine town, is my impresive memory . i just wonder why in reality, filipinos are more friendly to their internet enemy chinese than to their internet friend indian.

Goel:
They are big cities which barely face outages. This is a problem in India's small cities that even at smaller.

I live in a small Indian city. 10 years ago, we used to have power cuts 2-3 hours average on a day, even 5-6 hours during summer season. However, now it's not even 2 hours a week. India's power generation has increased manifolds. So, such problems are only at small scale now. My brother in Delhi never faced an outage for 2 years.

you are an honest indian.. at least, i appreciate you for this.

i have been to india in 2018, a big roundabout tour, from kolkata to ramanswara then Westward to mumbai and to check out the little tibet in delhi and the border ceremony in amritz , stay in vanarasi for 4 nights, and back to kolkata.


your indian trains are sooooo hot, stuffy, dangerous, smelly, ugly, dirty, chaotic. but i enjoy them a lot. It is more like an adventure for a city boy from GZ , china.

i meet more than 100 indian people in my journey. the east coast line people are comparatively better and more humble. the West coast line are greedy and the north are a total mess. i meet a few friendly indian, for sure, helpful and being truly like a human,but also a lot more bad indian .

you guys know sooooo little of china. chinese visas not easy for an average indian, while we chinese visit india with e-visa. as to me, i dont care the stereotype of india. my final dream is West papua trekking. so, what is the big deal of india ? i am not that squeamish as other chinese.

and , you guys NEVER watch my eyes after i say i am a chinese. you look at the ground or other places. an impressive finding in india . you guys also refuse to let me stay in any hotel in kerela state, a crazy place. i have to present my passport and ask your policeman to book a hotel for me. is It racism or regulation of foreigners? so backward, like policies in china in
1980s. .

your indian food is a horror that stops most chinese tourists. why all are curry slush that looks like salvaged from toilets ? actually, i get diarrhea every second day in india. and toilet paper is a scarcity , which costs me 70 rupees. india quality, very bad. in china , 20 rupees, toilet paper soft like milk.

as you see, even a chinese who speaks english and been to couples of countries, shows a certain amount of contempt to India,how do you think the ordinary chinese think of you ? and you need to concern how the people of the demi-superpower think of you , instead of how we concern you. we miss nothing if we know nothing of india. we can afford the ignorance. but you indian can not. pathetic for your brainwashing media that twists the facts and fools yourselves. you are a big excuse for CCP to justify its eligibility as the government in the one party country. CCP just points india to our eyes and says, look, that sheethole is democratic.

finally, both educated chinese n less educated ones dislike (not hate) india. for the lower class, they dislike india more due to the border clashes and the propaganda accordingly, for the educated free thinking and well travelled chinese, it is their india experience that confirms their notion of India, a big sheethole, with tons of sorry face people.


out of humanity ,we should pity india. but, there is less than enough resources in this planet. we will firmly stamp on the skull of india. it is an age long game, as long as human's , or even animals' history, which is the strongest survive. we chinese are Darwinists ,we believe the weak should die, we chinese are opportunists , we dont care how to be strong and rich, we take chances, and most times we win the lottery, we chinese are confucian, we respect the hierarchy (caste system), we worship the strong races, if you are stronger than us chinese, we will submit and worship you too. we are everything, but communists. keep this in your indian minds, you are too obssesed with pakistan / muslim religion and china politics.


oh yeah, back to the outage in india. every single hotel cuts my power off and forces me to check out at 7am . it is unheard of in china or even in nepal. you dont have coals, which china has 50% world reserve.you dont have oil, which is in the hands of muslim
, your foes. russia only sells weapons to you , not gas . sorry, india .

Goel:
As China’s influence increases in Africa, Uganda minister to India: Don’t lament, come reclaim space

go daydream , Indian pal .

1962 , uganda has evicted all indian out of It . and today there are some returnees over there .

i am a chinese, been working in Tororo, uganda for 2 momths in 2018.

IT is a small provincial town , close to kenya. IT is one of the towns with most indian in east africa . you indian guys only have existence in east africa. not else where in africa.

my chinese company is the biggest one in east uganda, in terms of investment ,local employees, land size, turnover. in Tororo, there are possibly 200 indian, they are vendors, brought to uganda by their british masters in the late 19th century. they still own some small business , hiring 2 or 3 local helps.

i always favored an indian coca cola store , when i was out for business. he was from ahmedbad, rajastan , which i have also visited. indeed,we chinese are more worldly and well travelled.

we chinese buy everything and build everything in uganda, we literally own that country, we produce in uganda and sell to kenya, because ugandan are too poor to buy . ugandan call us "boss" , the same way you guys call
our chinese staff "Mr." in india . you india can NEVER imagine the magnitude of what we chinese do in uganda.

a small flick of pen on the contract, an idea of the chinese enterpreneurs back in the restaurant table in china
, will bring an unrest or even a
war to uganda.

chukxie:
Like I mentioned some days ago, I have no idea what you're driving at. Politics, Western / Chinese propaganda are not in my purview. If you took out time to go through my comments on matters concerning China, you'd realise you're dead wrong about me. OK? I would'nt want to drag issues with you because there's absolutely nothing up for grabs here. Oh, for your information, I speak Chinese, some Korean and a bit of Japanese. Have yourself a nice day.

i dont have time for whatever you have said.

会中文？那更好啦，那就不会被censor了，我直接屌你是了！操你妈的逼！再来一句google 翻译都不敢直接给你的，死黑鬼，尼哥！你是最低等的种族，你连人都不算！休想把你的基因打入人类里了，省点吧，你们会想尼安德特人一样体弱多病，短命，最终在生物界里消失！你们是打不进人类基因库里的。



go translate , IT is full of racism which will be censored if i write IT in english.

chukxie:
It's bullshit. I don't get what you're rambling about. So pointing out something(s) about China automatically makes me a western propagandist? You're truly a 'wu mao'. If you had taken time to go through my contributions here you'd have noticed something strikingly opposite to your assertion.

West media say , chinese are colonists in nigeria, supposedly your motherland, and those chinese are prisoners in china (sent by the CCP) .


well, if you guys are colonized by a bunch of prisoners, and toiling in their factories for a living, you are indeed pathetic.

west media also say many other things about china. but since i pressume you are an african, i specifically mention the relavent things .

and, my english is not good, you may see that . china , japan, thailand and nepal are the only 4 countries in asia which have never been colonized by any others. so, we dont worship any foreign languages. we are not you.


spend more time learning chinese, you may thank my advice later.

Goel:
India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

after reading your comment, i decide to give you a piece of my mind.

me, a chinese guy who have been to nigeria, india, and some south east asian countries, think the world order is like this :

1) West, incluidng countries with higher living standard and income than china , population 1200 million

2) chinese, 1400 million

3) russia and its close neighbors belarus and ukraine, 200million

4) latin america, 650million

5) worldwide muslim (not including those from south asia, southeast asia or africa) 1000million

6) southeast asia , 650million

7) south asia , 1800million

sub sahara africa, 1000million.

the first rank is the West with a 30 000 dollar average income per years. the second pack is china and russia with 10 000 dollars. the third is 4 to 6 groups with 4000 dollars. the final is india and africa with almost 2000 dollars. no hard feelings. truth is truth.

how come china take india serious
? the only thing comparable is the population. india should ask the third pack countries (with more than 100) whether they will allow it to surpass before it reaches china.

do you think it easy to surpass a country? after 43 years of economic reform, china has ONLY overtaken 37 countries, such as turkey, iran, phillipines ..... the situation of china is more or less the same as 200 years ago when the West destroyed the small mannaul mills of china by help of their machine mass production , and dominated the world since.

today, it is the chinese who use machines to destroy india and other unlucky late-comers.

chinese bosses shift their own factories and capitals to India, vietnam and even africa to exploit the profit. and since vietnam is closer to china, it is a better outsourcing place for chinese outdated industries which are heavily polluted, labor intense and lowly paid. i mean the vietnamese are happy to be the slaves for chinese , they receive shoe orders from chines designers and they produce in sweat factories owned by chinese and ship the goods back to china's market.

the same will happen to africa too if african workers are efficient and professionally skilled as vietnamese and the container shipment fee drops too. but now, mostly, It is the "chinese boss, african workers, african
consumers" mode in africa. they use the local labor and raw materials to process and sell back to you african . and take the profit away.

as to India, chinese use a combined way to exploit. 1) government project contracts which help india build metro, bullet trains, 2) african mode 3) vietnamese mode 4) monetary investment in the IT start-ups and india unicorns.


india is a big market, so it can buy its own products, the export is not as impprtant as vietnam. and if we chinese invest in India, we can just adopt the african mode. but not because the distance too far, the shipment fee too expensive that we have to sell locally.

all in all, today is not how the West bossess consider whether to "condescend" to china or india , to decide their fates.. today is the chinese bosses who decide india's fate. my nearby city , dongguan, a factory hub between GZ and HK , is half empty, with chinese factory bosses opening branches in vietnam and even nigeria. america is not even one of the Top 10 investors in vietnam. Its the chinese. and the former lowly paid chinese workers are nowadays "master" , "Mr." , "sir" in africa, vietnam and india, being taskmasters.

the relationship between china and india is not a rivalry. it is a master
and slave one in a modern day supply chain environ. and india , vietnam, and africa are actually bitter and fierce enemies which are hungry for the leftover meat given by china. but due to the false West brainwashing, and the self-narcotics, and patriotism , these areas fail to realize this and all blame china as an "unfair competitor" by using "cheaper" labors to make "cheaper" products, and they (especially india and vietnam) are even quite proud that they stand up to china and grab a big chunk of meat from china doled out by the West bosses. and india is even funny enough to talk about car making and nanotechnology competition with china ?

come on, a country can not survive without the 1st industry , agriculture. both america and china have invested a lot to this before they take up the second and third industry. india can NEVER solve their agruculture problem which is rooted in politics , religion. they need a Mao Ze Dong style liquidation to get rid of the landlord leeches and nationalise the land . india can not even build a bullet train in recent 20 years due to the expropriation of the private land while china has expanded its network from 0 to the largest in the world. and the farmer tax is another serious problem in india which china has already solved smoothly and now chinese farmers NO need to pay any tax.


and finally , look at the pride of india industries , medicine and IT business. 95% ingredients and 100% patents of india medicines are from china and the West respectively. india only provides lands and labors to make pills. they dont even buy them. they have no money, they ship back to the West. the covid vaccines are perfect examples. Pfizer owned factories from india refused to give india rights to use its vaccines, even though india begged. and what about 300 000 indian students in chinese medical colleges ? on youtube, their voices are loud since china still rejects their requrst for chinese visas out of india covid situatuon.


and the IT industry myth, a shenzhen city alone beats india's whole IT companies , with wechat, taobao,baidu headquaters. not to mention tiltok in BJ and alibaba in SH. and 30 000 indian programmers work in shenzhen , for money and chinese green cards.


no need to show me the ranking and figuers of china or india. 1962 is a watetshed. india started to hate china from that time, reinforced by their economic failure nowadays. after defeating in india in 1962, china has been the leader of the third world till now. there is no enough resources for 2 Powers both of billions of people. if china is one Power, india can NEVER be another. they know it. they hate china for this. 1962 is a symbolic reason to hate. china weaning its chance to be a Power is the real reason. india is despairing, but too coward to take any desperate actions, and they are lazy and stupid, they just daydream and talk big. a hopeless place full of jealousy and hatred . india is a disgrace of human .

Goel:
India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

thanks for writing so long. i will take a leak before i get down to reply serious.

i am a chinese. are you a nigerian ? if yes, i dont judge you because personally i like nigeria and been there 3 times, although i do not agree with whatever you say about india. but if you are an indian , i will give you some lectures.


we chinese never hate india. we know each single indian jealous and hate us. but, we just take them as comedians. we 100% look down on them as immature kids.

chukxie:
Really? And even If I did it is because I write from my experiences as someone who's been to China countless times. You know sometimes you undeniably sound like a typical 'wu mao'? My dad passed away a long time ago, so, please do not mention him. 谢谢!

countless ? as many times as an authentic chinese ? covid has changed your mind. after all, covid has done a good thing, It helps you rid of the west bullsheet propaganda.

gbengu:
Bro, never compare Nigeria achievements with India. Mind you I'm neither comparing India with China. The distance far.

Indian has more industrialised than Nigeria just that overpopulation and the few controlling their wealth like Nigeria. They are also practising caste systems just like the elites and almajiris in the North. Most educated are the kerelites and Punjabs. They also have massive illiteracy.

They have industries that virtually produce most things but it can cater for their large population that where China comes in. Now about China, they are investors in almost all countries around the world especially in ASIA AND AFRICA.

They have the Production powers to give you any products according to your price or choice. That's is why we have different good products and substandard ones all produced from China. It is your choice and spending power to bargain for good things.

UK and especially US rely on China for most of her products. Do research on this but the only issue is that USA hive the standard and control the type things than can enter their land. China is the largest producer of almost everything in the world today.

In a normal clime Nigeria supposed to be competing with like of her former colony and the likes of advance countries in Asia especially Uae and the likes.

Almost all ASIA giant countries are run by work force from Indian. Not just labourers but owners of hospitals, supermarkets and malls, logistics, haulage etc in UAE and other Asia country even in Nigeria and other African countries.

indian toil as toilet cleaners and construction workers in UAE. they are not even house helps. those helps are from phillipines, because indian men are snelly and women are not submissive as filiponos . in UAE , indian have nothing to do with any HIGH business. the West and china exploit the oil. chinese also run the construction firms which recruit cheap indian security men . today, indian workers are ousted out and replaced by african workers.

indian in africa, mostly living in kenya and uganda. they are street vendors, at most shop owners. they were brought to there by the British colonists as coolies. i been to uganda, i saw indian treated like poo by the ugandan. they dont have political rights and they at best hire 1 or 2 local helpers in the store.

in nigeria, indian are pariah. once i saw a bunch of indian-african mix blood kids, i asked my nigerian friend who they are, he said, they are from niger ! even nigerian take indian to be inferior and refuse to admit the mix blood kids have any nigerian blood. BTW, i am not nigerian.

indian in china, and african in china, are both discriminated against. one is subtle , one is not that subtle. but they are grouped together. most exhibitions need african and indian to present invitation letter to enter and as to indians, they are strictly forbidden to snap photos or take away samples to copy . indian face difficult visa policy from china too, and they stay in the same community with african and pakistani in surburbs in china , where the landlords ask no questions and rent a subpar room to anyone.

indian in the West and america, are facing more racial barrier. they seem to take some CEO jobs, but , compared to their millions of immigrants, that is a small fraction.and i no hear Indian life matters compaign. no one gives a fig to them. and if indian so excellent to be CEOs, why not they open companies in their own motherland ? they are a bunch of few lucky guys who escape from a loser country. and whites know that, and what kind of respect the whites will confer to them ? at least , the blacks been integrating in america for a long time and been an integral part of america.

and , nigeria's GDP per capita is higher than india's. if you compare GDP , india is richer than France, pointless.

caracas:
Oga you're not just joking you're a comedian
China is nothing in military terms, they know this and The US also knows this......
Little wonder America keeps ignoring them....
If them born China well, they should attack Taiwan n give The US the opportunity they've been looking for to destroy them completely.....

then, how come the existence of north korea ? It is even larger than the south.

chinese pushed the US army back to the south in 1950s. and at that time, chinese were eating tree roots and having no planes in the war field. they won the war in that condition.

and now ?

chukxie:
You must be a comedian.
Or perhaps being sarcastic?
You should go read up on China's COVID-19 vaccines programmes.

wow, i still remember you. 1 year ago, you attacked china like china has killed your dad.

why switch so quickly ?