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budaatum:
I listen to C-Span a lot. They have phone-ins with separate numbers for Democrats, Republicans and Indys. The vitriol and lies are comical, but that's because I'm here faraway over the pond.

Our alternative on tv would be GBNews and TalkTV, but their reach is very small and there's Ofcom. I'm sure there's radio too, but I can't stand radio with adverts.

Funny that. I can stand vitriol and lies but not adverts, lol.

They are generally on AM and I'm sure you can find an internet podcast to compare. If you repeatedly hear it, even if you are more discerning, some nuggets will stick with you and like a seed eventually sprout. The Republicans have brilliantly done it. They intermingle it with Sports Radio as well. And sports is so often tied with "being a man". It was where these ideas propogated in the past. Haven't tuned in, in a while. Rush Limbaugh was one of the pioneers.

You're more discerning so I'm sure the small amall C-span nuts will be more comical to you. But imaging listening to just that vitriol and conspiracies for 2-4 hours a day.

bemeruca:
When we give our tax to Israel we get results.
The idiots who bombed the American embassy killing dozens are wiped out by Israel

Factcheck:

Bemeruca does not live in the USA. He has never been to the US.
Why he continues to actively lie about it is anyone's guess.
He is either severely mentally ill
or purposely pretending to be a US citizen to push mis/disinformation.

ObaIgwe1:
lol. With the scandal and mess on NC Republican governor candidate right now, a Trump ally, we might need to check if the polls in NC is still the same. That said. Harris doesn't need to win those states to win the presidency if she can lock in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. She can even afford to dash Nevada to Trump.

Bemeruca is the embodiment of a MAGA voter. He sees politics as a soap opera. And understands little outside of that.

As you said, those 3 states don't matter if she winds MI, WI, PA. But 2 of those 3 states Trump has problems with the Senator/Gov Republican nominee.
I'll see this is an outlier until another poll shows similar results.
I still think Harris can pick up NC esp. given the craziness of the NC Gubernatorialcandidate.

ObaIgwe1:
Very interesting watch. What is surprising is that with all these information in the public, the election is still this close. It's just beyond me that millions are still buying into Trump lies despite all these scandals. No politician has survived 10% of the scandals in the past.

If na Africa, we will be begging Trump to introduce us to his babalawo.

And kamala was right, if Trump had been elected in 2020, Putin will be drinking Whiskey in Kiev by now and getting ready to invade Poland.

I blame AG Garland and by extension Biden. Garland was too soft for the job. He cared too much that he would seem political and biased if he made some of these moves he should have made. So, by not making it he was political and biased in the other direction. He hasn't gotten the memo, Republicans will call you political, no matter what you do. They opened up a weaponization committee and used it to weaponize the DOJ against the President's son. So, Garland should have just done his job. He didn't meet the moment and in turn Republicans are still doing the same things.

As to the public, it's not really their fault. The Right has weaponized propaganda in News and Radio since Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine. It's hard for people to believe that people would get on TV and outright lie to you. And some people don't have the time and/or know how, to do the research themselves. Democrats are losing that battle. Look at this thread.
I keep telling this story. I once did a drive from MA to NC to knock on doors for the CLinton Campaign. I like listening to NPR as I drive and decided to listen to talk radio instead to get a feel of it in that area. Holy Sh*t, the amount of vitriol and lies against Clinton was astronomical. Halfway through, I almost thought she was the devil. Had to shut it off. And this is what millions of people listen to daily.

Obrigardo:
Hey guys Ijebos, Budaatum, Wirinet, Obalgwe1, Lordreed, Gloriousgbola, Konkoja, PDPGuy, nlfpmod, Mynd44, Seun Osewa

You all need to see this exposé. I know you all are busy but you need to watch this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhOhu0P1ASE?feature=shared

We've been fooled for far too long.

I've been hearing about this Doc.
A lot of this story has been previously reported/commented on by a couple of people I follow (emptywheel for one), for a while now. That's why I was so sympathetic to Hunter and kind of pissed at Joe Biden for not fighting back harder, earlier.
But, will check it out.

Ibime:
His probability is simply Mathematics and based on who is doing well in the battleground states. There is no emotion involved. He never claimed to be a predictor, he simply calculates probabilities based on battleground polling.

I was referring to the Trumpers on this thread who were lauding his numbers when the numbers said Trump had a ~60% chance of winning.
The problem for me is that his model is not transparent, so we don't know what goes into his probabilistic outcome calculation.
I've been a fan of his in the past, and was ok with that in the past.
But things have changed since 1.) he started offering more punditry since he got fired from 538 for his terrible 2022 predictions. 2.) he started working for an election betting company owned by Peter Thiel, Vance's mentor and a big Trump donor in the past.
We'll see if his integrity holds and how his model fares when the election results come in though.

ogbonti:
you surely dont know why Harris is desperate for a debate, do you?

Let me help you understand it


Harris and Biden played a game on the American people in 2020, they kept Joe in the basement while CNN and the mainstream media were unleashed on Donald Trump who was the sitting President then and it worked- because the people were shielded from knowing the truth about the Hunter Biden Laptop story which they called “Russian Disinformation” then


40% of Biden voters in 2020 have said in surveys that if they knew that story was true, they wont vote for Biden

Think about what you just read

And Kamala foolishly followed that strategy - she wont grant interviews, she wont do press conferences, shying away from the media that even supports her, like CNN and even when she did a 16 minute interview- they were soft ball questions and gave meaningless word salads as response

Now, she is neck n neck tieing Trump in all polls and thats bad for her because for Donald Trump to lose an election - his opponent must be at least +9 points ahead of him in the polls and Kamala is not up to +2 ahead of Trump nationwide


This time in 2016, Hillary was +7 ahead of Trump and yet she lost. This time in 2020, Biden was +9 ahead of Trump and Biden won with a razor margin less than 40,000 votes in all swing states


So IF you were Trump, why will you hurt yourself debating Kamala when you know the media wont be fair to you ?

Will you be playing a world cup finals and u are seeing the trophy and you are 1-0 up and its 84 minutes on the clock, will you take the bait to go dribbling your opponent showing your skills or you defend your lead ?

Kamala needs that debate more than oxygen and Trump aint giving it to her, let her keep hidding and giving meaningless platitudes to direct questions - Americans are wiser now


If na grammar dey win election- Patrick Obayagbon will be the life President of Nigeria


Take care

A lot of confusion in this post.

1.) Harris is not desperate, Trump is scared. Since 1976 Presidential Nominees have done at least 2, in the recent era 3 Presidential debates after they had been officially nominated. This year Trump and Harris did 1 (the one with Biden, was prior to the nomination). Harris wants to honor the fact that Presidents should debate so Americans can decide. I think that is a principle everybody should abide. You, on one hand say Harris is hiding, and on the other give Trump a pass for not wanting to debate. Pick a lane.

2.) Can you point to the poll that 40% of Americans wouldn't have voted for Biden if they "knew the Hunter story was true"? You won't be able to, because it's made up. Americans came out in force in 2020, because of how poorly Trump handled Covid and the exhaustion of Trump. You guys keep bringing up Hunter Biden's laptop. Why would the deeds of the son of the President matter to any voter? It's silly. Republicans launched an impeachment inquiry, subpoenaed Joe Biden, his children and his family for information. They had Nothing. Have you heard about impeachment since? No.

3.) The pollsters did miss in 2016. A lot happened in the final weeks esp. the Comey letter. A lot of independents broke for Trump at the last minute. Trump was unknown then. The pollsters modified their polling some more after the 2020 election. They said they accounted more for Trump voters. In 2022 the polls were more accurate. But in 2024, Trump is a known quantity and Independents, college educated voters and women are fleeing from him. Everyone is cautious about the polls, esp. given that Reproductive Rights will be on some ballots and that has seen an increased turnout in every state it's been on the ballot. Tough year to poll, for either direction. But most polls have Harris leading and in most swing states.

That being said, Kamala has the energy right now. Trump is on his back foot and needs the debate to shift his narrative from his poor performance and lies about Haitians eating Dogs. The reason he won't do a debate is that his Campaign team are scared he'll shit himself a few weeks before the election. They are making a good decision and for once he is listening to them. If Trump was confident he would win, he'd do that debate. Period.
As to Kamala, she did a good job during the last debate, but still missed some good opportunities. Debating a liar like Trump isn't easy. But she learned how to handle him and how to effectively goad him. And if they did a debate again, she'd trash him worse.
Listen, she set a trap for him. Say no to the debate and look scared, do the debate and shit himself again. No win either way for Trump, who always said to Biden, he would debate anywhere, anytime. Guess he's scared of a woman.

Adakintroy:
Am not picking your point out clear. It's either that back story is garbage or someone isn't telling a whole truth. What do you mean a town is dieing and the way thinking head thought about saving it was bring in jobs natives don't want but outsiders. How does that save the town.? Are you saving the town or people living in it?


But let's go with that. How does that explain the overload of haitan? A first world country does not reach that level unless there is a delibrate neglect. If there are job opening as you say, There is a coordination between immigration and labour ministry to find out extimatedly how many openings are there vs number required to fill in that vacancy. It can never gets to a level were they over run streets. People were coming out to tell there end. Why make it sound like group of junk yard lazy groupies beefing immigrant when we know that's not what they are telling. They were coming forward to tell of not only jobs but social life being over an by strangers and facilities not enough to compensate.

They have lived with Haitians, probably date or inter marry. So they know when the influx has exceed the norm. It's not bitter Ness in my view. It's normal human caution or sounding of the alarm.

For the last time. They are legal to work in the US. They did not come to the US for those jobs. It's like me, a citizen, deciding to move there to take that job. It is open for anyone!
Take some time, study (read the story), formulate an opinion based on facts, then write another post.
Right now you sound like a xenophobe and are wasting my time.

New Silver Poll Probability Model.
All the people on this site lauding his polls should trust him right?
I'm going to treat him like Rasmussen.

basilico:
Which was the original article? Liberals make up stories and data to make a point.
When negative data is strutted about,they go defensive

Do you ever stop. Google it.
You posted something you didn't read and if you did, didn't understand.
And you are behaving the same way the study said conservative would - fearful and with less ability to error correct.

Adakintroy:
So basically you drew up a backdrop story Central to immigration, which is better economic conditions. Given that everyone leaving their shores do so for better economic wages. So yes your whole backdrop story is particularly universal. It's a story told multi times in different ways like yours in this instance.

First nobody cares about the jobs you can dish out. The emphasis here is if you open your borders wide people will flock in beyond what you can control.

Trump had this debate. . He suggest a regulation through border control. Ok real border or hard stance regulations on illegal tenant pick your metaphors that has been his stance. We are talking about a first world nation with no control of his borders. How did they get to this position of dealing with numbers beyond their control seriously how?. If they were legally document for instance, they will have a specific numbers vis a vis the number of available jobs. This is not a third world nation we a talking of here. How did they get here?

That s Harris/Biden position. They cosign it don't drag trump into this. The point is it's a mess for a first world country and it's their administration. Trump does not concern here.

I didn't draw up a backstory.
That is what is happening based on the reporting and the words of the Republican mayor of that town.
Use google. There's been tons of reporting on this.
The town was dying and the white citizens of the town were either on drugs or didn't want the jobs that were newly created.
So they basically put up a Help Wanted ad and legal immigrants moved to this town.
Again, these were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, allowed to work, taking jobs that the residents didn't want.
And all this started under Trump in 2018.

Now you can dislike immigration, but you can't make up the facts of this story.

How an Ohio Town Landed in the Middle of the Immigration Debate
Jobs attracted thousands of Haitians to Springfield, and employers were ecstatic. But then an immigrant driver was involved in a fatal school bus crash. And JD Vance entered the fray.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/03/us/springfield-ohio-school-bus-crash-haiti-immigrants.html

Why Thousands of Haitians Have Settled in Springfield, Ohio
Businesses needed workers, and Haitians, many already authorized to work, heard living costs were low. But the newcomers have strained resources, and that has fueled tension.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/14/us/haitian-migrants-springfield-ohio.html

Great ad esp. for the MidWest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-B0_OKkeg

CoronaVirusPro:
Trust me, the law would not be changed or interpreted till something big happens

Imagine if Trump had been shot with like 3 secret service members dead, you would have been hearing talks about amendment.

A big show would change things. I mean a very big one!

That wouldn't even move the needle on an amendment.
That might exert pressure for Congress to move on an assault weapon ban but that's not even a sure thing.

CoronaVirusPro:
In a place like the US where you think common sense should be a norm, it is not.

The killings will never stop till an amendment is done.


I am not even in support of total ban, just get the military grade assault rifles out of the hands of civilians.

Look at what happened in Uvalde, even the police and military were scared to confront the teen while slaughtering kids, BECAUSE they know the capabilities of the AR15 he was holding.

Even a mad man will think twice before going on a mass shooting with a pistol

I don't even think we need an amendment, just new justices who won't interpret the 2nd amendment the way the rubbish right wing justices have.
Here is the 2nd amendment. Conservative justices pretend the first part (a Well Regulated Militia) doesn't exist.

"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed".

descarado:
It was a trap and she fall for it.
Democrats said no to gun.
Why is she now showing she is a proud gun owner.

All of them will be saying no to owing a gun yet have one.

United States politics, I tire. Make the election come and go abeg.

Guns are enshrined by the 2nd amendment in the US constitution. They won't be going away anytime soon.
The question is, can/should the Federal government regulate them to prevent things like the mass shooting at schools.

PDJT:
- Common sense gun laws like they have in Chicago.

I'm sure you understand how highways work.
Unless the laws are similar in every state, what prevents people who are already doing illegal things from illegally bringing guns into Chicago?

JovialJune:
Lol but you and your party made it legal for illegal immigrants to invade people's home

Same you in office is trying take to people's guns yet you just admitted you own a gun?

A very hypocritical contradiction lmao 🤣

She was the Attorney General of Califorinia. The Castle Doctrine (Right to use reasonable force including Deadly Force to defend against an intruder) is the law in California.

Some of theses posts he wrote. Wish I didn't read them.

It's US Election time.
If you are eligible, and you haven't yet, Register to Vote here:
https://vote.gov/register will direct you on to how to vote in your State.
Each state has its own Registration deadline.
Some states give you multiple early options from Mail in Voting to Early Voting to Drop Boxes.
If you are going to use Mail in Voting, send the ballots off as soon as you can. Last year there were a number of delays by the Post Office

If you have Registered to Vote, you can check your Voter Registration Status here:
https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/
There have been some shenanigans of some States unenrolling people.

ogmask:
He never said so. He said he brought up the story to make it go viral. Stop watching CNN na. I can provide the clip if you so desire.

Is that a President or VP's job? To make lies go viral? At the expense of the citizens, in fact your own supporters?
They were told early Sept. it was a lie. And still repeated it.
The governor of Ohio, a Republican, has told him it's a lie and they still repeat it.
Expect better from your leaders.

Here is the Republican Governor of Ohio's Press conference. He is even too scared to tell Trump to stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlBdR7FpVMs

NybenSBF101:
She is not wrong to have assumed that her cat was stolen and eaten by illegal immigrant based on the antecedents of these Haitian immigrants lately. Thank God she found it. Trump will be hosting a rally in Springfield, Ohio. Op your hatred of Trump won't make Scamala Harris win. This is not Nigerian election where incompetent INEC will be the biased umpire.

It confounds me, why Nigerians support Trump.
The same sentiment he has about Haitians, he has about Nigerians.
He thinks Nigerians, just like Haitians are from a shithole country who won't return to their huts .

Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts ” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/us/politics/trump-haitians.html

“Wait a minute,” he lectured them in an Oval Office meeting. “Why do we want people from Haiti here?” He said that Haiti was among a series of “shithole countries” whose people had little to offer. Can’t we just leave Haiti out, he asked the lawmakers. The legislation never passed and Mr. Trump worked to make it harder for Haitians to immigrate.

elganzar:
So the "Trump Supporter" added to the heading_ is suppose to make people criticise Trump for it?

Trump has been promoting xenophobia.

illicit:
What a CATastrophe...

Well done.

Adakintroy:
The cat meme may be an exaggeration but let's not all pretend we don't get the context. The people are complainig about overload of foreigners on thier soil. Which we Nigerians did with "Ghana must go". Or south Africa did with xnopho issue. We all have that tendency.

Each time we complain of colonilization Or white supremacy. But we abandon our freedom and go to the the white all over for recolonization. But there is no such thing as white supremacy. Of course there is.

Adakintroy:
The cat meme may be an exaggeration but let's not all pretend we don't get the context. The people are complainig about overload of foreigners on thier soil. Which we Nigerians did with "Ghana must go". Or south Africa did with xnopho issue. We all have that tendency.

Each time we complain of colonilization Or white supremacy. But we abandon our freedom and go to the the white all over for recolonization. But there is no such thing as white supremacy. Of course there is.

That is not the story.
The story is one of a town selling out to Big Business and the town leadership not doing the prerequisite work once they did.
The town was dying and so the leadership gave sweetheart deals to big companies to open factories there.
I'm sure there was corruption involved, kickbacks and some of the town leadership probably owned real estate they knew would appreciate.
So, the companies needed workers.
The townspeople were on drugs and wouldn't take the jobs as the businesses say (predominately white Republican town).
So Haitians heard about the jobs and started moving there in droves. Now, these are all legal immigrants, some even permanent residents.
They are supposedly getting paid $19/hour with a 401k and paying taxes.
Again, the town didn't prepare, so now the healthcare system is overrun and housing has gone up (probably some corruption there).
And all this started to occur when Trump was in office.
But again, this is a Republican town, with not wealthy white people, so why should they care to actually do a feasibility study before giving sweethearts deals to big factories. You know who needs regulations and competent government and such.
So one hand you love that your town is growing and no longer dying and making money on the other hand you hate them black people. Which do you think will win out?

raumdeuter:
Victimhood 101

Because he is white, because he is black, because she is female, because he is a man

Professional victims never amount to anything great in life

Can I ask a question? Who are you and what have you accomplished in life to speak on this?
You say you're not a victim, have you attained great success, great wealth, been to great schools? What have you done?
No. What is seems you are good at is running your mouth on Nairaland.

You're a coon. Who tries to excuse racism by acting like those who point out racism are victims. You aren't fighting it, aren't helping anyone. Just running your mouth. Shit, in my circle you'd be worse than white racists. You're the type of cat noone wants around. Probably why you relate to other coons like Bemeruca. You two probably sit around trying to decide who the biggest coon is.

Obrigardo:
They have to carry him to term, no abortion. lol

He said he's staying in the race. I guess if he dropped out he wouldn't force other politicians to decide whether to be seen with him or whether to criticize him.
Lol. I hope Stein has some reverse coattails for Harris.
This is a well deserved disaster for Trump in NC.

Obrigardo:
16 Key electoral votes in North Carolina and Kamala is winning it all.

NC Republicans pressure "Black Nazi" Mark Robinson to drop out. LOL

Rapist felon trump and his goons are all going down!

Lol.
Dropping out won't help. Ballots already printed.
That's what you get when you play identity politics, thinking black people will vote for someone just because he's black.

Obrigardo:
16 Key electoral votes in North Carolina and Kamala is winning it all.

NC Republicans pressure "Black Nazi" Mark Robinson to drop out. LOL

Rapist felon trump and his goons are all going down!

He said Black Nazi. lol
Bemeruca's probably mad he didn't think of that himself.
Shit, he may change his moniker now.

basilico:
If you can do a reverse image search and a Google street view locater to identify where Ben had parked his sports Range Rover , a one sentence search would have shown you I quoted fox news.
I probably been wrong 1% of the time. You are always mentioning me every other time.
I usually direct my questions sometimes to specific peoples.
Did you ever get a tax cut it you are in the annual $10K bracket?

And why should I waste energy googling anything you've posted?
Have you made 1 rational point here or said anything insightful ever?
No, just nonsense after nonsense about shit you don't even understand.
You keep posting walls of text about matters you have 0 clue about because someone posted them on the deep crazy webs on the Maga Net and they fit into some nutty conspiracy of yours you've concocted.

Here's the rub, even if I made US 10k, I would have made more than you did probably the last 2 years combined.
You can't be a bum trying to joke about what someone else makes.

bemeruca:
"I grew up understanding that the children of the community are children of the community"

It's weird that someone supporting Trump would even want to talk about Word Salad.
Do you think Trump gets a pass because he's white?

And this quote makes sense if you understand what she is trying to get across.
Sometimes people who live in a community see children who live in the community (a physical place) as just random children. But in fact those children who live there are a part of the people who live there, a community in the family/kindred sense, and thus everyone has a duty to look after them.
So she put an emphasis on "community" the 2nd time she said it.
Did I particularly like the linguistic flourish? No.
Did it warrant a gleeful nonsensical post from anyone? No.

You spend so much of you time on this gotcha politics. It's esp. odd since you spend so much of your time supporting a man who is barely coherent even on his best day.

Spend your life on shit that matters, like learning about positions, thinking about policy and coming up with a consistent story of when you left Nigeria.

basilico:
Ijebos,
Democrats don't want illegals who commit sexual offences deported.
They want their victims to also get abortion at any point of the pregnancy. Dems are just weird perverts.
Now that's what I call critical thinking.

September 18,2024
More than 150 House Democrats voted against a bill that would deport illegal immigrants convicted of a sexual offense or conspiracy to commit such a crime.

The Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act passed the House of Representatives along bipartisan lines on Wednesday. All present Republicans voted for the bill, as did 51 Democratic lawmakers. The measure passed 266 to 158.

Among the Democrats who voted for the bill are Reps. Mary Peltola, D-Alaska; Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez, D-Wash.; Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla.; and Hillary Scholten, D-Mich.

Two of the Democrats who voted for it are seeking higher office — Rep. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., is running for Senate, and Rep. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., is running for governor.

In addition to deporting migrants convicted of sex crimes, the legislation would also deem illegal immigrants who admit to domestic violence or sex-related charges — or are convicted of them — to be inadmissible in the U.S.

Please stop quoting me on this random nonsense.
And learn to quote articles. You plaster a wall of text from some random third party without any citation.
And 99% of the time it's wrong.
Why the fux should I give a shit about the random words you post from some random place.