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Okay oohhhh, I agree we must kill Ibori.

ifyalways:
Bia nwoke kwusi ikpom aha.Infact wepu anya na ahu m.
Kemgbe afo ano gi na nwa Afghan kpawara,oge erubeghi i ga atuwa ya ime ka o bu na mmiri koro na pump-u gi

Nwa Afghan onara gi di?

andromida:
whether big thief or small thief, no be thief?no be only ibori be thief accepted but right now na him we fit catch,one day monkey go go market he no go come back.

Now you are talking.

Ibori is the unfortunate monkey that went into the market on a wrong day.

That is the more reason why they should temper justice with mercy, if we know there are big thieves out there who should be prosecuted then the small thief should not be hanged. At least not until the small thief see his teachers hanged.

agabaI23:
Chei
Minutes nzuko anyi mere abali ato gara aga efugo.

Iwe na-ewe m oo.
Kedu igba nkwa osisi?

Its all your fault.

Why ijiri were aka gi kpopo thread ahhh?

desgiezd:
It is very clear that some people here are on Ibori's payrol and are willing to lay down their lives in his defense.

Don't take cheap shots. 

The fact is that what we are witnessing here is jungle justice, the big thief declares the small thief a common criminal and so is used as a scape goat, in other that his own loot would be forgoten.

If there is going to be justice at all start with the big league thief then, that would be sending a clear message to the populace that as a small or big thief there would be no place to hide.

But the message here is relatively clear, if you are a small thief, you would be hunted down, but if you are in the big league you could even think of contesting an election, while everyone turns the other way.

Why is the whole hullabaloo all about Ibori dipping his hands into funds of over $290Million, what has been done to IBB who has $12Billion unaccounted for?

Who has asked Anenih what he did with $750Million allocated for roads.

Why is it morning, afternoon evening always Ibori? 

Is Ibori's middle name corruption? 

ifyalways:
a nam anara ihe kara aka and the thing jurum onu

     

toshmann:
i ma na ify di aghugho too much

     

Nmadu nile maaaaaaooooo except Iffffyyyy.

ElRazur:
Ikomi, it is uncalled for. Me and you can disagree all we want in one thread, but it really sucks if it is taken out of there. A mature man stays away from things like this for crying out loud.

Seems that worked, you no av been working on that logic theory of yours.

So I thought I could logically pull your legs a bit. Am glad that worked logically. lol

frosbel:
Don't tell me you forgot your brain at home again today

Your brother ElRazur knows more about brains, am sure he can look at me and tell - logically - if I have left my brains at home or not. Bunch of brainsicks.

"Brown Admits Defeat As Cameron Wins Final Leaders’ Debate"


You see you have taken up your cross of lies again, if I should plead with you to drop it, you would come up with all sort of insults. Before I know it your brother ElRazur will join you.

@Topic

Very Funny.

A lady just came second in the Saudi Arabia Poetry contest, she actually wrote against hard-line Islamic clerics and she was in full veil.

I wonder if the Judges caught a glimpse of her. Simon Cowell would have had none of it. lol

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She's a housewife and a mother of four from Saudi Arabia. But Hissa Hilal is also a poet — and a finalist in the Million's Poet competition on the Arabic satellite channel Abu Dhabi TV. Think American Idol, only with contestants reciting poetry written in the traditional Bedouin style.

Hilal says her decision to enter the competition was a now-or-never situation. As she told NPR's Renee Montagne, "I have something to say; this is the chance. If I don't do it this year, I think I'm not going to do it in my life."

Hilal is one of just a few women who have ever entered the competition. And her poetry has openly challenged hard-line Islamic clerics and their harsh fatwas, or religious rulings.

A poem she recited on the show earlier this month included verses that, loosely translated, read: "I have seen evil from the eyes of the subversive fatwas in a time when what is lawful is confused with what is not lawful."

Although her words may be perceived as subversive, her dress certainly is not. Whether she's in the TV studio or in her daily life, Hilal wears a full black flowing niqab — only her eyes are visible to the audience.

"This is a tradition," she says. "If I take it [off], all the traditional types would be shocked. I will lose the people — those I want to talk to, my people. I don't want to lose them, because I'm going to say important things."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125356092

frosbel:
Don't worry when my 8 year old comes back from school I will ask him to help you check this out on Wikipedia and google.

Please dont forget to ask him/her to help you with it when (s)he comes back, at least you won't be the first illiterate father that the child helps out.

ElRazur:
Like I said, anyone with half a brain see through your farce.

I never knew intelligence is now measured by the size of the brain, for you to be super intelligent as you seem to claim, your brain lobes must be dragging on the floor, I believe that explains your utterances. So with that I plead to you to answer the following question, forget "Holocaust YES or NO" for a second and answer the following questions:

1. WWII was fought betwen the allied forces and Germany, how many nations was on the side of the Germans, and actually fought with the Germans.

2. Amongst the nations that fought alongside the Germans, how many nations did they invade all together from Asia to Europe and Africa.

3. How many people died alltogether during WWII.

4. Define the Holocaust.

ElRazur:
Once again you showed little or no logic. Please engage your brain while I break it down to you since you have the mental capacity of a primary school kid.

In the video

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/361/2247.htm

Watch it and then answer yes or no. Was Ahamadenajad denying holocaust or not?

Remember, all you are doing is answering YES or NO.


Read the following links and answer YES or NO if they are not talking about the same thing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4527142.stm

and

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8264111.stm


Remember, you are just answering YES or NO to the question if Ahmadenajad denied the holocaust or not.


I am betting my money that you lack the mental capacity to attempt this task, but let me give you an element of doubt.

The way you clamour for brain use one would easily make the mistake of believing you have one.

Let me tell you what your frustration is, it is not because you are a Jew that was wronged, it is not because you know me or ever will, heavens forbid. Not a lunatic. Your frustrations demontrated in insults is because you cant easily argue your own way through, so in seeing someone beating you to it with facts you revert to insults.

If I were you I would gain some knowledge from the argument and not keep hiting my head on the wall, like a child that wants some candy and his mother wont say Yes to it, especially when the question does not deserve a simple Yes or No.

If it was only me and you in a room making this argument, I would have left you to your own ignorance, since its my policy never to bark with dogs, but unfortunately I have it as a duty, not to allow you rub your ignorance on others.

Now I shall ask you a few questions if you get the answers to them, then you would have derived your answer and then understand what Mr Ahmadinejad is talking about.

1. WWII was fought betwen the allied forces and Germany, how many nations was on the side of the Germans, and actually fought with the Germans.

2. Amongst the nations that fought alonside the Germans, how many nations did they invade all together from Asia to Europe and Africa.

3. How many people died alltogether during WWII.

4. Define the Holocaust.

Truly I say unto you if you answer those question you would get what Mr Ahmadinejad is saying and come to terms that he is denying nothing.

Look I am not suprised at you turning to your bad habits to rain insults at me, if a man like you whom am sure someone is still paying your school fees, could turn and call Mr Ahmadinejad a fool, a professor and the leader of a nation without proper consideration of his questions, questions that even a Jew in the level of Larry King really agree with and was not ashamed to say it many times on international tv that he agrees with him and finally said and I quote: "yes you could ask questions and that does not neccessarily mean denial".

Then I should not worry about a back bencher like you ElRazur.

ElRazur:
You really are illogical. You are quick to talk about LKL video, but how come you have kept quite about the video from his own nation and other reports of him doing so? The joke is really on you. Engage your brain, then I won't have to ask you to do so.

Mr. Looser hinding behind the smiley. So you can see that your insults would not get you anywhere with your lies.

So which are you dropping first the lies (misconstrued statements) or your insults. Engaged brains, yeah I see, engaged in lies and nonsence.

ElRazur:
I have no problem with him questioning the number of deaths i.e perhaps the figures were inflated etc. But to deny it never happened when it is one of the most documented atrocity in the history of mankind in recent history is just silly. Then to have a muppet on nairaland defending him that he never denied the holocaust - when it is on record that he did - is just idiotic.

Whatever you wish you can have a problem with, denial or no denial, but all I assure you is that you would not force your myopic opinion down anyones throat. If we say he never denied and you believe he did why dont you keep your insults to yourself or are you a Jew that you must insult someone for it. Thats just a sign of frustration in trying to peddle your lies which does not seem to be working.

ElRazur:
If several evidences have showed he denied holocaust etc,

Sound of a looser, several evidence, and even in the interview above the question is not "why do you deny the holocaust", its "would you acknoledge the Holocaust".

And after his explations Larry king went, "yes you could ask questions and that does not neccessarily mean denial".

Maybe he wrote you a letter denying Holocaust, I think you have a problem with english, trying to fit in where you dont belong.

That you overhear people discussing world affairs, does not mean your up to it. You cant even pick up anything except denial or no denial and insult.

Osssssiiiiii babes,

I thought the vidiyo was onily in Igbo Kwenu formati (that is for members of Igbo Kwenu threadi), I never knew, i.e amghi mu, you had another onenu in publik formati (that is for generalu).

Next timemu you are planing this kindy of danceey please let Ikomi know in advancey, imagine a beautifulu womanu likey you doing that kind of dancey and no one was spraying, i.e gbalaring, you money, ego. I dont know what is wrong with peoplu this daysi is iti dati they have no spending money or whatu (ego ana eri eri).

Next time you planini a dancey likey dati, let Ikomi (mgbe oji kwe the grandson of his own grandfather know) inanu? I come over with spending money (ego) and I promise you I will spray all anglelu, leaving no areas untochedi, but why? 

frosbel:
@Ikomi

You started a silly thread and as it progressed made matters worse by exposing your abject ignorance.

I pulled out of the debate because I know there is no use educating some !

keep spilling you confused statements.

Still you fell for the silly thread, so ain't you silly? lol

Go and join you friend ElRazur, you two should go and get a drink, some energy drink, expend your energy where you would be needed, either in digging up some road or working in a warehouse.

Leave intellectual matters to those that can handle it.

ElRazur:
I'm sorry, but you have consistently displayed little or no logic.

If you have a video clearly showing him denying holocaust and then not even coming back to coming on that is just silly. Period. For over two pages, I have fed you the same evidence over and over, but it appears you really ain't making use of your brain.

Anyone with half a brain will realise he is on record denying the Holocaust. Anyone with half a brain will also realise that his attempts to repair the damage done have been further made non-credible by his recent rants and denial of the holocaust.

Clearly, you appear to lack the ability to think beyond your own delusion that you had to bring so many unrelated and irrelevant matters to disprove two simple points in order to save face. Who are you fooling? The average nairaland reader see through your farce I'm afraid.

You are quick to castigate the Media originally, but as soon as the media forms you supported reported the same thing, you changed your tune. Once again, keep fooling yourself in an attempt to save face. If he is on record saying so how can you justify denying he never did denied the holocaust? What a load of rubbish.

Again and again I have asked you simple questions that I even highlighted, but you lack the common sense or simple decency to answer them.

Dude, this is ain't about IQ and what not. I am not about to trade such qualities with you. After all, the way it stands you have shown time and time again that you lack logic. One of the prerequisite for intelligence.


As it stand, just in case you forget. He denied the holocaust, he supports hamas, he tried to fix it on LKL, but he ended up denying the holocaust again. To deny this is just idiotic. Period.

Please come back with something better, you are beginning to bore.

Typical. I cant force my opinion down his throat, I dont have any more to say to back my argument, I cant even defend the last picture he brought up, so what can I do? I must revert to insults, thats the only way to go now. lol. Looser.

ElRazur:
My Research professor is here, I have to go.

Goat dey go school?

ElRazur educate yourself.

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ElRazur:
Ikomi it appears you lack logic and simple common sense. This have noting to do with Jesus and quite frankly your post is borderline idiotic. These are the reasons why.

As for all the bullshiit you have been trying to drag into it, sorry, I refuse to play along.

I warned you earlier that I dont entertain insults, nor do I give low lifes audience.

Coming to tell me that a research Prof. is waiting for you does not raise your IQ.

If you can't argue your point beyond what a man said himself and what the press writes for you, sorry please I cant get along with you.

My analogy with Jesus was to bring you to see that reports and what is exactly meant are not always the same. Unfortunately you did not get it, beyond runing from site to site to bring reports, which are not right.

Like the one you posted below:
http://www.iranholocaustdenial.com/statements/ahmadinejad-most-dangerous-anti-semite.htm

How does that tell you the man denied the Holocaust, rather than reports, it did not even tell you what he said in quotes, that actually states, he categorically denied the Holocaust.

Am finished with you. Your not smart. Go back to your Research Prof. tell him someone said your not smart, he might be kind enough to tell you the truth.

Finally the interview with Larry King was in September 2009

ElRazur:
Ikomi, we really are making this unnecessary. The point is that he is on record denying holocaust. He seems to have a habit of doing that every year. I have cited sources that you preferred and media from his own country. This is not about been guilty etc. It is about what he said and it was on record.

I don't really know what you want me to say, you claim you have prints where he denied Holocaust, the picture you posted with various pictures where I have seen the man appear, he rather asks questions and not denial.

Ad give you an example, a cripple was brought to Jesus, and he said go your sins are forgiven, the Pharisees says its blasphemy that he is claiming to be God, since it is only God that can forgive sins, and am sure if there were prints then there headline would read Jesus claimes to be God, while the man told them time without number that he is the son of God.

Look ElRazur I have seen that mistake been made before, your press can write want they want, you yourself can believe all you like, but the man has repeatedly said which you confirmed, even on Larry king, that his speeches could have been misconstrued, but it practically all boils down to a question "why a group of people should be more important than the other". This I heard him say on Larry king himself. So there is no way you would make me admit that the man denied the Holocaust as most of your prints would want to make you believe, and throw away what I heard directly from the man himself when he was on a show hosted by a Jew in the name of Larry King.

Look ElRazur I think you are fighting a lost battle.

ElRazur:
Ikomi, I have no problem with who ever Mugabe makes his ally. It is a well known phenomenon that nations will join forces together to battle a common enemy. In this case, a perceived enemy will be the US and some western nations.

The point you appeared to be missing and deliberately sweeping aside is that I made a statement and you claimed I have no idea of it and it is false etc. I have shown over and over again that is isn't so. That is the point I am making. So far, you have moved away from your stance of saying it is not true to saying "let us assume". Even though all records point to him doing so. Nice.

So all you want us to do is to say that he said things he has explained he never meant nor said just because you read it somewhere when the man is still alive to defend himself.

What has happened to not guilty until convicted beyond reasonable doubts?

Njakiri laaa kwanu azu na threadia ihe aghowana nkpari.

Ossssiiiiiiii si muwa I-k-o-m-i and I quote "Ikomi lekwa m ebe m no n'agba egwu n'ekele kwa Chineke"

And before you know it all umu nkpi, nno na threadia aghozie Journalist written comments left, right and center.

Imagine Pres-elect:

ebelebe igba
ebelebe igba
ebelebe nke igba igba igbakirigba

Ebelebe nke igba igba igbakirigba means what?         Ehhn Pres-elect?

Do you guys know when me and Ossssiiiiiiiiii started this journey.

Inshort let me hear another comment, about backside or ukwu, and the commentator would have to explain himself. 

ElRazur:
Frosbel, in Ikomi's defence he is free to be an ally to whoever he wants jare. I respect him for defending his view points too. However, to keep defending in the face of fact that goes against what you are defending is just counter productive.

And these aint just facts from "Western media" but from media sources that appears to be in tune with the person you support. It is just a joke now.

I think we are loosing the plot here, holding on to a broom stick and hoping to make a clean sweep is flawed logic.

The question remains:

Lets assume that the man denied the Holaucaust as you would have us believe since you can read his thoughts better than his explanations. Lets agree he supports Hamas, since you would only see his own presumably wrong actions, and those of your western allies is perfect.

What has that got to do with trade with Zimbabwe if it benefits both parties, or should Zimbabwe and Iran's economy grind to a halt while the true perpetrators of this crime carry on with business as usual?

If you have answered that question satisfactorily, then you come and tell us if Anti-Semites is a Persian word, or part of Zimbabwe vocabulary?

frosbel:
1. They are both tyrants
2. They are also mass murderers.
3. Both anti-western
4. Both anti-Israel
5. Last and not the least, they both exist in a world of unreality and denial.

Says Who.

Do you know why Saddam was hanged, for killing 30,000 Kurds.

For the wrong invasion of Iraq, over 500,000 Iraqis have died, over 50,000 soldiers have lost their lives. And the perpetrators of this crimes are walking around as free men. One as Middle East mediator and the other, two months ago as relief effort overseer in Haiti.

And you call a man whom you can't proof that any loose of any life has come directly or indirectly from his orders a murderer.

Please I think you should stay out of the conversation if you are going to peddle lies.

ElRazur:
Ikomi, I set out to defend two points I made and you have repeatedly challenge. Any other thing is just irrelevant. I am asking you again directly, did he denied the holocaust or not? Again, RT, Al jazeera and video from his own country have showed him doing this. Seriously, do you deny this?

That is my point and quite frankly, I am not bothered about your irrelevant matters.

My Research professor is here, I have to go.

Ohhhhh talk about who is sidelining issues.

Maybe I should remind you to take a look at the subject of this thread Ahmadinejad Pallies Mugabe and not
Does Iran president support Hamas and did he deny the Holocaust.

Imagine kettle calling pot black.

I hope you listen to your research prof. and not try to push your own opinion when he is saying something different entirely.

@Afam

I have stongly learnt that when you have an opponnent who would just stick to one side of the lane on a motorway even when the traffic there is moving so slow, and you keep wondering why is he still there, the best thing would be to move to that lane and see if there is any benefit on that lane that you seem to be missing. So lets put a few simple questions to ElRazur and see what he derives from his stand.

@ Dear ElRazur

Lets assume that the man denied the Holaucaust as you would have us believe since you can read his thoughts better than his explanations. Lets agree he supports Hamas, since you would only see his own presumably wrong actions, and those of your western allies is perfect.

What has that got to do with trade with Zimbabwea if it benefits both parties, or should Zimbabwea and Irans economy grind to a halt while the true perpetrators of this crime carry on with bussiness as usual?

If you have answered that question satisfactorily, then you come and tell us if Anti-Semitism is a Persian word, or part of Zimbabwea vocabulary?

0hsisi:
Ikomi lekwa m ebe m no n'agba egwu n'ekele kwa Chineke

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Osssssiiiiii muo. Otito diri Jesu, na ndi ebebe.

Innnnaaaaaa agba shege. Ima that was the reason ijiri kporo gi naaa that first day, or have you forgotten.

Ebeeee igbara pisces wu after midnight, Ossssiiiii hapu story oooohhh, iwu one in town.

ElRazur:
Yawn! Another lengthy post side-lining the issues.

My original points are as follows - He denied holocaust and he supports hamas. (I.e he uses hamas to wage his war on Israel, a point which appears to keep going over your head)

It would sound lenghty and irrelevant especially when it dwarfs your claims of Hamas.

Secondly I must remind you that views are not one way streets, and sometimes they might even be multilanes. So if you cant see where am coming from dont blame me if I dont want to see where you are going to.

ElRazur:
Also may I add that it is very hypocritial and almost oxymoron of you to slant the Western media, then use the same media you have criticised to exonerate Ahmadenajad's denial of the holocaust. Where is the logic?

Thank goodness we are having the likes of Aljazeera, Presstv, China Tv and Russian tv to give us a balanced view. Such that the BBC and CNN now have to play catch ups.

Let me not forget NTA and AIT lol.

ElRazur unfortunately you don't have a point, you have been misguided and misinformed by the Western Media controlled by the Zionist regime, unfortunately you have swallowed everything that comes out of it.

ElRazur:
You really are coming across as thick in the head now.

I should just assume you are thick in the head too, that way it is a level playing field. Right?

I must warn you that I don't entertain insults if that is your manner of putting your views through you could as well save it for yourself. Allow those who can argue in civil manner come forth with good points.

ElRazur:
As for supporting Hamas. Here is another one of his quote on Hamas and Israel from 2008:

I suppose Ikomi will tell us how he went on NTA this time to address those statements. Or how it means something else blah blah and was taken out of context.

What if he supports Hamas, I have asked again what has that got to do with trade with Zimbabwe.

Where were you when your so cherished west supported the Taliban whom they are against today, they created a monster in their own image and want to tell us they are no good.

Where were you when this same cherished west of yours supported the Saddam regime, the same way, they created a monster and when it did not serve their purpose anymore it had to be done away with, still with ElRazurs support.

Where were you when the Saintly west supported Mobutu of Zaire, helped him unleash terror on his own people just to get there hands on resources and when he became confident enough to want to stand on his own and give back to his people, they quickly made ElRazur see the evil in Mobutu.

Where were you when the same perfect west supported Idi Amin Dada. Helped an ordinary chef boy usurp a more intelligent and sophisticated Milton Obote, just to hold on to their rein in Uganda, and when this same Idi Amin Marshal Dada, noticed his been deceived all along, they branded him dictator immediately and had him sent into exile.

Where were you when the great man known today as Nelson Mandela was branded a terrorist by this your soo beautiful west for defending the right of his own people but iimmediately they noticed that the forces of nature they were fighting against was higher than theirs, they first branded him great then asked Condolece Rice to take his name of the terrorist list.

I can go on and on and on, but the question is where were you when all this happened, such that a man must be crucified for supporting freedom fighters or asking questions. ElRazur where were you?

frosbel:
Ikomi's best mate, lol.

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00709/One_Week_Only_1__709716d.jpg

Look ad rather have a friend that has the chance of accepting me as a brother than dine with one who would rather think me nothing better than a slave. The Zionists that you are here arguing for see you nothing better than a slave. The Ethiopian Jews that were flown to settle in Israel just to help in their aim of land occupation were given the worse residential areas.

ElRazur:
Dude, quit trying to patronise me to be honest.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/361/2247.htm

Patronise you, lol, u wish. I'll just point out when you are wrong and when you are right.

The man from the picture you placed up there, still asks the same question, why should one group be more important then the other.

You watched the first 3 mins and ran off with what you would want to believe aided by your biased prints. Any neutral minded person would obviously understand that the man was simply asking questions and was denying nothing.

And as I have asked you:

What has the denial of Holocaust(which is not true) or support of Hamas(which can not be prooved beyond the fact that Hamas use bombs made in Iran, as Congolese rebels use weapons made in America to terrorise villages and despoil women), got to do with the benefit of trade to Zimbabwe?