₦airaland Forum

Katsumoto:
Yes, it is I.

I got really busy in the last couple of years and it coincided with the infestation of this board by political jobbers. So I will drop by from time to time.

I hope you are keeping well brother. Good to see you too.

Kat, why you come dey form. I see your FB posts. You were busy spending money and tasting girls.

No wahala. Dayokanu too. I see you guys.

Wetin I dey talk. I be small pikin.

veraponpo:
You this woman. You keep on impressing me beyond words.
You reason deeply and express wisdom always.
Kudos.

Lol well, I just can't help myself. Jk. But compared to the posts on this thread, I be small pikin.

coolitempa:
Question jam question......tisha don't tish me nonsense o.....Omo Eko ni mi o.....se oromi ti ye e...

Oogbadun. Se Desola ni e?

You can carry your 2x2 shops and gala basket with you to the east.

CuckoldMaster:
Termites are not lazy snakes. You Yoruba's are waiting to steal our properties in Lagos. Lol.

I am a termite, whether igbo or cross River. All the same. I am a Biafran.

Snakes are lazy?

Go and jump into a cobra's den nau.

Termite.

coolitempa:
Hahahahahaha.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxdSNgamSc

lol

Aigbofa:
Is this really katsumoto? Where have been? Long time.
Nice to see you here again.

Katsumoto's head don swell o. Na wa.

I think coolitempa might be Desola's new ID. Just my speculation.

raumdeuter:
See as you spoil everything with the bold

Lol e pkele. But the South is the South.

superstar1:
Is she not Desola?

Desola is in Lagos and knows a lot about Lagos, I'm not and my knowledge of Lagos is limited.

Osomalo:

Ilekeh, I don't know who's crazier between you and Des.ola.
Don't forget Fayose is area fada oooooo
I dey laugh.

Area fada, okay.

I'll show him area whip for his area flogging.

By the time I'm done with him, he will be talking in perimeter.

[size=14pt]Is he no longer an Urhobo man because he supported Buhari?

Didn't Nnamdi Cownu support GEJ's presidential bid? Everyone has a motive. [/size]

wiseoneking:
suffering from ENDEMIC IGBOLYSIS DISEASE: Disease of people who has low inferior complex whenever they hear or see igbo, biafra or nkanu. This girl's own is incurerable, all she thinks everyday is igbo. Lol

Termite, keep quiet.

CuckoldMaster:
Exactly, I am cross river born but I take calling me igbo a compliment. Termites are known to be hard working. So you are spot on.

Snakes on the other hand are not the friendliest of creatures.

Yoruba snakes hissing all over.

No need to disclaim your termite heritage.

Probably one of those igbo land grabbers in rivers.

anonimi:
2010-2015 is five years not six.

There were two presidents, why did you ignore Obasanjo

GEJ has been leading this country into abysmal since the periods Yardua was sick, left for Saudi and was unable to lead Nigeria [starting in 2009].

Even we in the SW [in 2003] didn't want OBJ. I think that speaks for itself.

[size=18pt]Yorubas in north wants Fulani cattle rearers face-off resolve[/size]

BY NDAHI MARAMA, Maiduguri

The Yoruba Council of Obas in the 19 northern states and Federal Capital Territory (FCT) Abuja have advocated for an amicable resolution of the face-off between farmers in the southwest and Fulani cattle rearer over grazing activities.

Arising from its 5th Quarterly meeting in Abuja, the council implored the Ondo State government to resolve the Fulani Cattle rearers-farmers’ conflict to avoid spill over to the northern part of the country.

A communique signed by the council’s acting Chairman who is also Mai (Oba) of Yoruba in Borno, Alhaji Hassan Yusuf and Dr Alani Adeyemi, Oba Yoruba Gombi, made available to journalists in Maiduguri yesterday, it appealed to the Ondo State governor to use his experience in resolving the problem.

“We implore the Governor of Ondo State, Dr Olusegun Mimiko to use his good office to resolve the ongoing crisis between the Fulani Cattle rearers and farmers in the state amicably and quickly to avoid spill over effect,” the council said.

It advised non-indigenes living in the southwest states and north to abide by the rules and traditional laws of the state they reside. It also urged them to continue to live harmoniously and peacefully with their hosts.

The council commended President Mohammadu Buhari for what it described as his genuine efforts at addressing immediate needs of the country especially the fight against Boko Haram insurgency and other security challenges, calling for support from all Nigerians

@MayorOfLagos

anonimi:
Can you compare Jonathan's SINCERITY with that of:

- Obasanjo
- Buhari

Can you

Buhari - Less than a year

Jonathan - 6 years

I'll reply you in 2023 when Buhari's term ends.

fastestfinger:
Why are they trampling on his fundamental human rights. If someone decides to eat rats and say it tastes like chocolates; who are you to tell him otherwise? Abi na for your belle d rat enter?
Provided that they're not constituting any nuisance to the public, nobody has the right to trample on their freedom to worship...besides, he didn't point a gun to anyone's head before they became members of his church.

lmaooo

Why can't this happen in Nigeria?

Does that look like a church to anyone?

modath:
My sis, there is no basis for comparison, hero had the shoeless sentiment & the whole PDP heavyweight working for him...

Forget an alliance between the SOUTH!! Pre 2015, it could have been a possibility, can't ever see it happen..

Nigeria needs to be unbundled cos the north sentiment is never going to fly...

Alliance? Stupid question, but would we really need South alliance to bring the power back to the South?

Oh yea, GEJ did have the SW/SE behind him huh.

Shymm3x:
Bwahahaha @ bold.

https://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3754041_o.gif

I'm sure you followed the last election and you know how the country is structured. And you're also following the dynamics of things under this government and the power-play. You better leave that alone for now and let's focus on how to get SW states out of the doldrums before they all go bankrupt.

Anyway, I've got an idea on the next topic to discuss, but I'm sorry you won't be part of it. Hopefully, Aareonakakanfo and raumdeuter will take charge of the topic. I think we need to discuss why Yorubas aren't producing that many footballing talents in Nigeria. And I'll probably cite the huge number of Yoruba teens and schoolboys playing for the academies of the different EPL clubs as the preamble by listing their names, and clubs. That should be interesting.

Gosh, it sounds do boring already

Lots of Yorubas in the NFL and usa college footballs too.

CuckoldMaster:
A zoo monkey as always. The Yoruba snakes are here.

And the igbo termite quoted me.

modath:
Ileke, you forget politics is a game of Numbers, the north got us stymmied on that front...

& South has add 13& a half of 16yrs, If the country isn't breaking up & they should have it for now...

I support Regionalism, make each region bear hin own cross & anyone that chooses to cross hin boundary should be heavily TAXED

Niger Delta didn't have the number.

modath:
Abi oooo, me yaff already narrowed down fire 's connect to either of Tewonde or Koro, cos those two are his mortal enemies...

I know it's a Lagos connect cos the bile is mostly for the lagosians, other yoruba states are just cherry on Top...

@IlekeHD.. I have queued behind TheVoice 's comment, no more no less....

I can't argue that TheVoice made a lot of sense, so did many others.

The past discussion has been an enlightenment period for me. Thanks shymmex for posing the question[s].

I can't adequately form an opinion about Tinubu, but like many politicians, he has never been a fan of mine. However, my favor or disfavor shouldn't cloud Tinubu's present weight in Nigerian politics. He has brought Yorubas [like Gbawe mention] to the forefront of Nigerian politics, be it a selfish interest or a political interest]. Now the real question is: Now that we're here, what are we going to do with this position?

I really think we should find a way to minimize the North's political weight and to bring the power back to the South [be it SE/SS/SW]. A region with no added value shouldn't have so much power.

Osomalo:
Well, the thread from page 0 till over 200 was about Yoruba's who are excelling in various fields. We also discussed economy and our social problems such as omo ita and omo onile who are creating nuisance.


We have never bashed any of our leaders here, in fact we avoided political discussion.

Until few days ago when we saw a thread on frontpage about debt owed by each state. Richtiee posted the debt profile here and we all reacted to it. That was the beginning of the anger. Someone like me was really angry when I discovered that debt of Osun State as at 2014 was 52bn whereas the debt Oyinlola left when he handed over power to Aregbesola in 2010 was 18bn.

People are angry because of the debt profile, what the PDP governors left for the ACN/APC governors is far from what we are seeing now.

The question is how do we pay the debt? Why were they all borrowing when the price of crude oil had not fallen? Now that the price have crashed, how do offset the debt? Aregbesola once boasted that he never needed federal allocation to pay salaries, he said the state was financially healthy. I was glad, I never knew he was only bullshitting.

Each state in SW should publish how much they are actually owing presently. We need to know how much each state is really owing. I fear the debt of Osun now is not less than 60bn. Where do we go from here? If our governors can't pay salaries, how then would they provide infrastructural facility.

Lord save us. Lord have mercy.

Shouldn't we?

Some Yoruba politicians be waking up everyday with a smug on their face because we don't bash them. And nitori kini, if not to safe face.

There are some politicians I'll personally like to smack. Just give me an hour with Fayose and he'll come back to y'all like a good catholic boy.

[size=18pt]Another aba-made stats from one Biafran soldier ant like that.

Until a Nigerian posts this, I won't believe it.[/size]

Sincerity in kini?

Nigerians, how soon we forget.

I wouldn't let GEJ shepherd my herd of dogs.

Osomalo:
Aunty, you are right.

Firefire hardly comment until Tinubu is being discussed. Fire, na wah for you.

I kinda don't see anything wrong with that.

Let him contribute on issues that interest him. I just don't believe the dude/anonimi are Yorubas.

[size=15pt]Have they deported the 29k Nigerians yet?


Biafrans on NL be like : UK supports Biafra [/size]

Shouldn't these people be protesting?

theV0ice:
Shymm3x

I long for another Awo and his era but I must constantly bring myself back to the earth and admit the truth that men of that hue are no more. Even though distant uncles of mine like late senator Akinboro told us after the devil, Awo was next in line, Awo will always be the father of modern Yoruba nation. The truth is that every human has a dark side including you and I.

I remember when democracy started and the Yoruba nation was to be compensated for Abiola's death, we all queued behind Falae because he approximated closest to what we could manage than OBJ but he too had to get down into the mire to outsmart an renowned disciple of Awo in Bola Ige through the committee of 23 'wisemen who voted 14 to 9 against Ige. For those familiar with that episode, they'll admit Falae also did a Tinubu to beat Ige. Falae lost to OBJ who had/has no regard for Yoruba nationalism and it showed in the way he bamboozled his way through the SW in 2003. Only Tinubu survived the onslaught because he utilised the same system we villify him for today and its ironic that the same ebora had to rely on Tinubu's platform to get one over GEJ, his godson.

However, how do we think Tinubu could have provided a platform for us to even have a chance to negotiate if he didn't get deep into the dirt and murky waters of current Nigerian politics? I like Osinbajo and I believe he'll make a fine leader (he's even an Awo by marriage ), but I can assure you he wouldn't win councillorship against a bus conductor in Lagos without borrowing some leaf from Tinubu's book of political wisdom.

Politics in Nigeria has left the era of Awo, Azikiwe, Sardauna, Rewane, Aminu kano etc. I dare say that a George Washington will also find it not easy to win an election in the USA today

Tinubu isn't a saint. Tinubu should do better. Tinubu isn't Awo and can never be. That much is very obvious. However, things are a lot different than Awo's time. Why, I'm even posting this on my phone while lying on my bed and you'll read it instantly though you're thousands of miles away. That is enough to tell you that the times have changed and a whole lot changed with it. Not least the politics

A lot of us long for our pastors to cut down on their greed yet we've refused to stop going to church. We simply pitched our tent where we believe things are still a bit sane. Its the same with our politics. We have to choose whom we feel is the lesser devil.

While the jungle was dark and threatening, Tinubu was the only one bold enough to stand. Who else then to lead the charge?

I might have spoken from a very narrowed vision of Yoruba politicians but pls don't blame me too much. Compared to the politicians that dictate things around me here in the Niger Delta, Tinubu qualifies for beatification.

My rants or whatever are over jare. I don't even know if it if it makes sense

Another side of the coin.


Synthesis [of everyone's reply]: Tinubu is NOT a saint or without selfish interest. He's molded by the climate of Nigerian political system.

superstar1:
Politically, Tinubu did what was necessary to save the yoruba nation from the onslaught of a corrupt party. Maybe he did it to protect his personal interest too. Most likely yes. We cannot deny the fact that he seemingly saved the day.

Gbawe et al should realise that we yorubas are better than this and we are demanding for better governance and leadership. If Tinubu wants to be a leader, he should learn to be selfless now because he has the money and the influence already. I do not have any iota o respect for Afenifere (since the demise of Abraham Adesanya). In recent times, there is not a single instance anyone can point out to that they put the yoruba nation ahead of their selfish interest. Not one. They have turned themselves to ''We vs Tinubu Group''. They can never be relevant in the scheme of things gain, till when they reform themselves and renew their conscience and re-awaken tha pan-yorubaism they were meant to stand for.

I will not hold Tinubu responsible for Governors that are not performing because you can only force a donkey to the stream, you might not be able to force to drink the water.

In fairness, the PDP governors had access to more funds -- ecological fund, excess crude oil funds etc which the APC guys might have used more judiciously. However, my grievance with APC governors is why on earth will you put the state in so much debt and there is no development on ground that is commensurate with the debt profile. That is criminal and satanic. It is better for you steal public fund and not throw the state into the valley of debt, than for you not to be able to account for funds you borrowed in the name of the state. In the case of the latter, at least the generations yet unborn do not have a burden, while that it is the case in the former.

How can anyone then tell me an Aregbe is better then OGD, when I can see projects completed by OGD, though he was a looter?

As for me I am just waiting to see the miracle the synergy between the APC controlled central government and the states can achieve, before passing my final verdict.

Thank you!


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Shymm3x:
Feel free to post whatever you want to post...that's why we're here. I know most folks will shy away from the subject. However, if we don't talk about it, how are we going to move forward? We're in a precarious situation right now, with a future that looks bleak, based on how Yoruba states are run and the falling oil prices (Nigeria is heavily dependent on oil and all these states thrive based on oil money). So folks need to start talking.

I was listening to Nas and Damian Marley's tune "Leaders" off the Distant Relatives yesterday and it resonated with me that African Americans are somewhat similar to Yorubas...and the two groups need great leadership to thrive. Let's look at African Americans. They made a lot of progress when they had Marcus Garvey and Booker T. Washington...and they were able to rally around them. Then after those two, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X came and they all rallied around them. But after both MLK and Malcolm X - there was a leadership vacuum and that allowed NAACP which was/is more of an opportunistic/compromised group to take charge. And it gave them the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who're a walking embodiment of opportunists and compromised folks. Then Minister Farrakhan came forward with the Million Man March and most African Americans thought it was a new dawn and they all marched to Washington DC in their millions to support the movement and show solidarity. However, after the success of that gathering - Minister Farrakhan ran away and he never followed up, despite the support he got. Apparently, due to intel by the FOI that they were after his life. And a lot of folks will never forgive him for that.

Now, let's analyse what happened to what happened to African Americans when NAACP and the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson took charge of leadership. A lot of drug kingpins started thriving. Crack came and it destroyed their communities. Black economics died. Mass incarceration. Street gangs were born and killing one another became the order of the day. Etc..

Back to Yorubas. Under the leadership Oyo empire - Yorubas thrived and achieved greatness. Then when Oyo collapsed, a leadership vacuum was created and the splinter groups (I believe it was first Ijaiye and later Ibadan - I might be wrong. Katz, you can correct me if I'm wrong lol) that tried to take charge of leadership never had what it takes to lead everyone, and that led to the almost-never-ending Kiriji wars. After that, Nigeria came and Egbe Omo Oduduwa was able to galvanise everyone under the leadership of Awolowo. And Yorubas started thriving again. After Awolowo, Afenifere and NADECO thrived under the leadership of Abraham Adesanya and Yorubas were able to fight a common cause. However, after that - there has a been leadership vacuum. You have Tinubu and his allies on one side, and remnants of Afenifere on the other side.

Personally, I feel these two groups (Tinubu and remnants of Afenifere) represent NAACP and the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, when you do a comparative analysis with the struggles of African Americans. And when you look at how the two communities fared under the leadership of these opportunists who filled the leadership vacuum, you'll see how things deteriorated. We can politicise and sugarcoat things all we want, but even the blind can see that Yorubaland is effed up.

So, going forward, since we are a group that has always thrived under good leadership. What should we do? Should we beg these opportunists cum leaders to do the right thing? Or just accept our reality and start looking for new leaders to take us where we ought to be?

This is too heavy to swallow.....although I don't want to derail, but where is the evidence of strong correlation between NAACP/Sharpton and the events you listed?

MayorofLagos:
Shymmex,
Each of our Yoruba frontline politicians in the contemporary has an archetype we can match them to in the pre and post independence era.

Fashola is a reincarnate of Herbert Macauley
Tinubu is a reincarnate of Awo.

A reincarnate relives opportunities and aims to polish and do right what he got wrong on first coming. The two lives will never be lived exactly the same and cannot therefore be a compare one to the other.

Say what