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Brendaniel:
Where you or the writer objective when this was added ?

And besides I only told you the truth...

chimex38:
...after writing according to the Bible, you can't proof yourself again. Na run you dey run.
You mixed your opinion with Bible and you don't expect to be called out.

Truthseeker10:
I have also asked you where the bible states that pastors are banned form politics but members should join politics but it seems you have no biblical basis for such a conclusion. No need to argue since you are sharing your personal opinion on why pastors should be apolitical. Goodbye.

Truthseeker10:
Lol.... so the screenshot does not say that pastors are directed by the bible to pray for kings?

Brendaniel:
This is what he means by propaganda...







So with all the free education and excellent performance Tinubu has done for the southwest, the southwest still has the highest number of out of school children in the entire south while the south east you people are busy insulting them and their leaders have the least number of out of school children in the entire south and in Nigeria, but to you people hatred come first, so logic and common sense is thrown away.

I've told you guys and I will keep telling you guys, you people's biggest undoing will be the hatred and envy you people have for the Igbos.

Truthseeker10:
Here it is.

Truthseeker10:
I don't know the verse that you quoted. You claim pastors are directed to pray for kings. Where is that written in the bible?

esnbrutality:
They have started again with childish propaganda.

Anyway... sophisticated liars have a particular DNA sequence..

It's generational..

Truthseeker10:
You can tell me....you've repeatedly made it clear here that your opinion is based on the bible.

kingxsamz:
lol, abeg go rest. You became a mom because you were ready for it.

Truthseeker10:
the screenshot below is the only time you made reference to the Bible. Is the supposed direction to pray for kings only directed to pastors?
You clearly said "you think pastors should be apolitical". If that Is your personal opinion by that verse, no problem unless you have a verse that bans pastors from joining politics and encourages members to join politics.

Truthseeker10:
You mean you provided a bible verse that bans pastors from participating in politics but encourages their members to do so in our discussion here?

Do you know that because of N5,500 termly school fess, over a hundred thousand children are being sent away from schools in the South East?

We can’t let this to continue.

MY OPEN LETTER TO BISHOP OYEDEPO – FATOYINBO’S RECKLESSNESS

His exact words –

“I dedicated 2 jets before coming here… I told Rev KK that when I’m 40, I’m going to buy a Rolls-Royce… I have 3 right now… some 15 years ago..., we paid $20,000 per night for a hotel room…”

“Poverty destroys ministries… I was studying recently about what Apostle Babalola did… Anointed man… Heavy Duty Grace – BUT! NO MONEY. So all the grace just went like that… Where are his children? I’m sure some of them will hate God.”

2 Timothy 3:16 declares –

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.”

If indeed God dwells in us, and we in Him (John 4:15), then our speech - especially from the sacred pulpit - ought to be rivers flowing from the wellspring of His Spirit. Our utterances should serve as compass and anchor, as lamp and plumbline, fulfilling the fourfold ministry of scripture: doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness.

So, I ask without malice but with earnest trembling: in Pastor Fatoyinbo’s opening declarations, which facet of 2 Timothy 3:16 shone through?

Is the “dedication of two jets, the ownership of three Rolls-Royces, and the lavish payment of $20,000 for a night’s lodging” inspired utterance or sanctified boasting?

Can such words be enshrined as doctrine?
Do they pierce as reproof?
Do they mend as correction?
Do they guide as righteous instruction?

Brethren more seasoned in the fine letters of scripture than I, pls lend us your wisdom - where does such rhetoric find its place in the sacred canon?

And why do I write this? What stake do I have in this disturbing sea of controversy?

Shall I begin?

I have read the articulate thunderbolt issued by the CAC - a response so well-forged I feel incompetent to attempt to polish it, in actual fact, it needs no further embellishment. Their arguments stand like granite pillars, unshaken and unshakable.

Yet I write - painstakingly - to the Body of Christ, and in particular to Bishop David Oyedepo, one of the patriarchs of faith in our generation. Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo, along with others of similar persuasion, has long proclaimed the presiding bishop of the Winners Chapel, Bishop Oyedepo as his spiritual father.

I do not just write as one who sometimes identify as a Christian, but I pen this piece as one whose roots run deep into the soil watered by the prayers of Apostle Joseph Ayodele Babalola; as one who walked the very mountains where the Apostle, like Saul on the Damascus road, encountered the blinding call of God. Ikeji Arakeji, Osun State, was not just my academic dwelling - it was my holy backdrop, my living testimony to the footprints of a man who carried “Heavy Duty Grace” without flaunting it in the marketplace of vanity.

Shall I Begin?

WHO WAS APOSTLE JOSEPH AYODELE BABALOLA?

He was not merely a preacher; he was the blazing torchbearer who lit the Pentecostal flame in Nigeria. The revival fire of 1928–1930 that birthed Christ Apostolic Church was not just a spark - it was the very dawn of Pentecostalism in Nigeria, West Africa, and among the earliest tremors on the entire African continent.

And then came the 1930 Oke Oye Revival in Ilesa - led by none other than that apostolic colossus, Joseph Ayo Babalola. That revival did not just stir hearts; it rattled the very earth. Thousands trekked mile after weary mile, driven by a hunger no bread could satisfy, in pursuit of the one true God. And they found Him - in healing that dissolved infirmities like morning mist, in deliverance that shattered chains of ancestral spirits, in salvation as pure as spring water gushing from the rock. Idolaters, witch doctors, and sorcerers - once lords of their dark arts - came kneeling, laying their fetishes at the feet of Christ, and surrendering their lives in total abandon.

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Babalola carried, in his time, the undeniable and majestic presence of the host of heaven. When he entered a town, he did not need to hold a crusade before the sick recovered or the bound were freed. His first act was to bless the local stream, wielding his God-given authority so that those too far or too weak to see him in person could still meet God through water sanctified by prayer.

History - echoed even to this day - brims with testimonies of those who bathed in, or drank from, these streams. To the natural eye, these waters were muddy, unfit for human consumption, the sort that would make doctors clutch their heads. Yet, instead of cholera, the drinkers testified of healing. Instead of sickness, they spoke of salvation. And I, yours truly, am counted among such living witnesses.

“These signs shall follow them that believe…” - that is the Great Commission, issued by the risen Christ in Mark 16:17–18. Signs and wonders, healing for the sick, deliverance for the oppressed - these were His charges. Nowhere in that divine dispatch was there mention of private jets.

To take the roaring tide of the 1920s revival, the thunderous waves of 1930, and the very birth of Pentecostal expression in our sub-region, and reduce it to Naira and Kobo, is more than ignorance - it is sacrilege. It is not merely an embarrassment to the Abuja-based pastor who dared such a statement, nor just a slap in the face to the Christ Apostolic Church, nor even only an insult to Apostle Babalola. It is an affront to the body of Christ itself, a mockery of the divine essence of the Almighty.

While delivering the famous 'Sermon on the Mount', Jesus issued a warning sharp enough to pierce stone: “No man can serve two masters.” He made it plain that split loyalties lead to inevitable betrayal - you will cling to one and despise the other. And He named the rivals: God and MAMMON. (Matthew 6:24)

Mammon - drawn from the Aramaic mamona - is not just wealth. It is the lust for it, the relentless, greedy pursuit that blinds the eyes and hardens the heart. Jesus’ warning was not casual counsel; it was a barricade against the erosion of the gospel itself.

So, if one were to overlook an insult to Apostle Babalola, remembering that even the best of men are still but men, how can one overlook an insult to the gospel itself? To drag the selfless sacrifice of Jesus - the celestial King who stepped down from divinity to wrap Himself in fragile flesh, who bled and groaned under the weight of the cross, who died in excruciating agony and rose triumphant on the third day - down to the level of filthy lucre? That is a trespass too grievous to ignore, a profanity that must be met with unflinching, unambiguous condemnation.

3.

WHY THIS ADDRESS TO BISHOP OYEDEPO?

First, it was Bishop David Ibiyeomie - standing in the grandeur of his historic 120,000-seater “Five Fingers of God” cathedral of Salvation Ministries in Port Harcourt. With the might of the sound system at his back, his words rang out: “Adam’s sin in the garden was because he ate his tithe.” In a single sentence, the awe-inspiring engineering of creation’s story was stripped down and stitched into a patchwork of financial obligation.

Then came Rev. Korede Komaiya, thundering from the pulpit of The Master’s Place International Church in Warri, declaring to his congregation: “Money problems led Christ to the Cross.” Again, the sacred mystery of the second member of the Trinity was reduced to a balance sheet of debits and credits.

At this rate, I fear it is only a matter of time before such men proclaim that heaven is the exclusive estate of the wealthy, while the poor should abandon every dream of joining the rapture on the last day.

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These men - all of them - have openly professed themselves as sons of Bishop David Oyedepo. And in unity, they carry forth a gospel stripped bare of the Cross, dressed instead in the glitter of gold. Their prosperity message, in its extreme form, is a dangerous distortion - a gospel that measures the worth of a soul by the weight of a wallet.

If indeed a tree is known by its fruit, then Bishop Oyedepo must call his sons to order. Otherwise, the world may conclude that their message is but a mirror of what the Bishop himself believes. And yet, as one who has long been an ardent listener to the Bishop, I can attest: his teaching on prosperity is almost always wrapped in the linen of Matthew 6:33 - seek first the kingdom of God - and success, when defined, is tethered to justice, decency, and moral bounds. If this is so, then one must ask: from what well are these sons drawing their extreme doctrines?

Meanwhile, there are missionaries today scattered like seeds across violent and hostile lands - preaching the gospel with their very lives at stake. Their days are marked by danger, their nights by uncertainty. Many have paid the ultimate price for the kingdom. They may never be known beyond the dusty paths they tread, never be immortalized in glossy biographies, and never be hailed in the chronicles of church history. Yet in heaven’s ledgers, they rank no less than the overseers of mega-churches. But to Fatoyinbo and his ilk, these soldiers of the Cross are invisible - dismissed as unworthy of divine notice simply because they are not billionaires.

A man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions (Luke 12:15).

I close with this: true legacy is not etched in marble mansions or measured in fleets of luxury cars. In the economy of the kingdom, legacy is weighed by the depth of our relationship with God and the faithfulness with which we execute our divine assignment.

“…let not the rich man glory in his riches:
But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth…” (Jeremiah 9:23–24)

Joseph Ayo Babalola left this world in 1959, and yet in 2025 - sixty-six years later - his name still rolls off tongues with reverence, his life still testifies to the raw power and heavenly grace he bore. The Christ Apostolic Church may today be splintered into countless fragments, each with its own overseers and principles, yet all still proudly trace their spiritual ancestry to the Great Revivalist and that extends to all denominations that carry the Pentecostal mantle.

But this enduring testimony is not guaranteed for many modern founders, especially the merchants of prosperity gospel. Their messages, shallow as a puddle after the first drizzle, may glitter under the sun but will evaporate long before the noonday heat. Many will yet draw breath while their ministries lie cold and forgotten - because what is built on Mammon cannot withstand the storms of time.

Shalom

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Truthseeker10:
Please provide a bible verse that bans pastors from politics and encourage memebers to join politics or I take your statement above as your personal opinion.

Truthseeker10:
So are the members also not suppose to avoid meddling in the dirt and intricacies of politics if the bible also spares the pastors?

Truthseeker10:
Why should pastors be apolitical while the members involve in politics? Is there a biblical reason for pastors being apolitical?

FxMasterz:
When would you stop lying, Boomark? I quoted one scripture and provided several versions of that scripture, is that a lie?



Lack of English comprehension again.

If I say, no one has seen Boomark on Nairaland, does that mean no Nairalabder can see boomark?

How many times do I have to explain to you that before Jesus came, no one had seen the Father, but He revealed Him before He left as shown in the scriptures.

Now, let's apply common sense.

1. Statement 1:

No.one has seen the Father.

2. Statement 2.

The Song has revealed Him.

3. Statement 3
Whoever has seen Jesus as Seen the Father.

Now, draw your inference from all 3 statements.

Even a 4 year old child will tell you that, at first no one had seen the Father but the Father was eventually seen through the Revelation of Jesus Himself.

A list is someone who takes half of what Jesus said instead of the whole.


It's your understanding that is contrardictory. Unbalanced interpretation of Scripture as I've shown above. Your interpretation is to take half words of Jesus and neglect the rest because you don't want to believe the whole truth.



Obviously, you're a fake Christian. A son of the devil to tell such blatant lies with gusto.

As the screenshot has shown.

I maintained you said no one has ever seen God. I.posited that, Jesus didn't say, no man can see God but that is what your position implies, and that you probably have 'no man will see God in your head."

I don't like dealing with people who are poor in English comprehension. I.want more intelligent discussions. Not this brickering here and there.

Now, since you said you never said "No man can see God." Do you now believe that God was seen through Jesus?


No.man has physically seen God but we have seen God through Jesus.


You've been exposed on this platform as a big liar. Image123, Gabrienshow24, Emusan and the rest of Nairaland readers can already testify.



Quoting John halfway again, isn't it? Half Bible Christian!

1 John 4:12

“No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.”

Why does God abide in us?

"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God[color=#000099][/color]. and eternal life.”



Very childish talks. It's unprofitable to discuss scriptures with you. It's better I avoid you and talk with more intelligent people who would like to embrace the truth. I'll create a thread instead. I think I Already have enough of you. You ended up doing the exact thing for which I said I do not want to be arguing scriptures. You even tell lies without conscience.




So, you looked the other way when you saw THE ONLY BEGOTTEN GOD in the scripture you quoted?



Ignorance is not bliss.

From the above scriptures, I can deduce these things about you:

1. You have not seen God. You don't know God because you don't know Jesus. Since you're unable to see God through Jesus. Then, you.obviosly don't know Jesus. Hence, you're not a Christian.

2. You.habe never heard the voice of God. You are teaching yourself the Bible. God is not teaching you. You're not worth listening to.

Boomark:
Round 9

Subtopic: Jesus Christ is Subject to the Father Even as a Divine Being

The Bible teaches that even after being exalted and glorified, Jesus remains under the authority of the Father. His divinity is derived, not independent.

1 Corinthians 15:27–28 says that when all things are put under Christ, He Himself will be subject to God, who put all things under Him.
The bible made us to understand that the head of Christ is God”. Jesus came to do the will of Him who sent Him, not His own.
Jesus himself declared that the one who is sent is not greater than the sender and the Father is greater than I.

Revelation 3:12 shows the glorified Jesus talking about "his God" four times. The revelation was given to Him by God as seen in Revelation 1:1.
Psalm 110:1 (quoted in Acts 2:34–36) shows the Father saying, “Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies Your footstool” — proving His reign is granted by the Father and it is the will of God the Father to make his enemies his footstool.

Thus, even as a divine being, Jesus is under the Father, which aligns with the main topic that the Father is one God over all.

lexy2014:
but Reno is the author of this thread on Obi.

is Reno now one of Obi's onlne influencers?

anonimi:
Is hunger touching ebilokan to the point of BITING people

Was he also being emotional in his own assessment of failure for the two years of hitting the ground running