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What are these policies? Let's be clear and sure, because aside removal of subsidy which everyone agreed to do. There's no other policy that has caused the inflation that we all complain about. We all knew it was going to happen when the subsidy is removed. it's simple logic. |
Good for you Boomark. i still await the next round oh. Like i used to say, na you need AI, i don't. If anything, i believe you have learned the following. 1. In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy Spirit" is the Spirit of the Lord. What AI has said IN CONTEXT is that the Lord is Jesus, because Jesus is Lord, which is my Trinity claim BTW. i didn't show that the Spirit is Lord in the same way that i showed that Jesus is Lord and therefore God. No wahala. You insisted that you didn't see the Holy Spirit in the verse and in your direct words said "In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy spirit" is not the spirit of the Lord." You must have also learned that 2. ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. 3. AI is subject to the topic asked. 4. AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO" Thank you.
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Kukutente23:- Ministry for humanitarian affairs budgeted ₦130 billion as a general intervention fund across poverty and humanitarian programs, for just this year alone. -The Ministry of Health’s 2024 approved capital budget was ₦233.66 billion, but only ₦26.55 billion (15%) was ever released, due to cash flow constraints and policy procedures. You don't believe these 2 but you readily believe over 700billion not yet disbursed. On what logic? |
Wow, that's massive. i wasn't expecting it. Good boost for our athletes. i expect uncommon wailing from opposition. |
Kukutente23:Lolz, you disingenously removed the part of my post that shows that the two ARE being done/tackled together. Infrastruture 'ministry' is not the one to tackle hunger and hospitals, it is the work of humanitarian agencies and health departments. Here it is again though you know already that they exist. The Renewed Hope Infrastructure Development Fund is for INFRASTRUCTURE. There are ministries and bodies for catering for poor people, malnutrition and building hospitals.Ministry for humanitarian affairs budgeted ₦130 billion as a general intervention fund across poverty and humanitarian programs, for just this year alone. The Ministry of Health’s 2024 approved capital budget was ₦233.66 billion, but only ₦26.55 billion (15%) was ever released, due to cash flow constraints and policy procedures. |
Boomark:ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. i wonder where on earth you got that. Anyway, listen to your ChatGPT yourself, i helped you to ask in the images attached below.
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Boomark:That the Father is God, the Son Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet they are one God. |
Boomark:No problem. It is up to you, i only explained how AI works. The results it gives showing who used scripture more clearly and accurately, did either person use scripture out of context, did either side prove or avoid the point, who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone, and which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone can change or differ significantly just by introducing a heading/topic/subtopic. So you need to prioritise what you want: an echo chamber or a real/neutral analysis based solely on the posts and Bible verses used? For the umpteenth time, i don't care about the AI results for myself. |
I CLAIM: Boomark:i like the word you used which is the logical thing, neutral. i have never said that AI does not know what it is doing. i have only cautioned you that AI is GIGO-based, depends on what you feed it, and is subject to the topic asked. So if you are looking for unbiased analysis, be careful what and how you feed it. 2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrVThere's no advantage or disadvantage here, only truth in context and without extrabiblical inputs. The Bible refers to the Holy Ghost as the Holy Spirit and also as the Spirit of the Lord. This is the direct observation and meaning across many books and verses of the Bible. A claim that the Spirit of the Lord is not the Holy Spirit is not found in the Bible. Like your verson quoted, it is straightforward enough without any eisegesis. Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. Many other versions also mention Him in the verse, either as Holy Spirit or Spirit of the Lord. This is why we say the Holy Spirit is Lord as seen in the Bible, Jesus is Lord as seen in the Bible, the Father is Lord as seen in the Bible. 2 Corinthians 3:17 (BBE) Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free. (GW) This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom. (KJV) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. (YLT) And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty; Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom_7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Rom_8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom_10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth[b] the Lord Jesus[/b], and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Gen_2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 1Sa_2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.All over the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of the Lord. All verses refer to the Holy Spirit and His power in context. None is said to refer to Jesus in the Bible and rule 1 says the Bible alone. 1Sa_16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 2Sa_23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue. Act_5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. Even our chapter is gracious enough to refer to Him in the earler verses. 2Co_3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2Co_3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2Co_3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. Key verses: 2 Corinthians 3:17 (BBE) Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free. (GW) This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom. (KJV) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. (YLT) And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty; Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom_7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Rom_8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom_10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Gen_2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 1Sa_2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. 1Sa_16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 2Sa_23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue. Act_5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 2Co_3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2Co_3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2Co_3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. |
Boomark:Oh okay just reading this now. So this is like a break or what? No wahala. You didn't mention me. i tend to read my mentions rather than followed topics. i'll reply this soon sha. |
Where is Boomark na, has he given up? He probably asked AI those questions and got shy. For someone who'd have rushed out to inform about ChatGPT results and how he's making a lot of sacrifices, this silence is deafening. Boomark, are you not going to make video and inform us on the result of the last round and these questions? 1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC 2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo" 3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral" The answers to 2 and 3 should better inform you on how AI works, instead of accusing me of blaming AI. When will you be posting your next round of claims, or are they the same circles as the one where Jesus has a God and He is over all? |
Kukutente23:Like i clearly said but you refuse to READ. The two can be done together. Don't be allergic to good news. Answer simple questions. (a) When is there ever going to be a right time for anything in your eyes? (b)How much revenue does mmia generate? (c) Do you think at all or just made up to oppose everything? The Renewed Hope Infrastructure Development Fund is for INFRASTRUCTURE. There are ministries and bodies for catering for poor people, malnutrition and building hospitals.Ministry for humanitarian affairs budgeted ₦130 billion as a general intervention fund across poverty and humanitarian programs, for just this year alone. The Ministry of Health’s 2024 approved capital budget was ₦233.66 billion, but only ₦26.55 billion (15%) was ever released, due to cash flow constraints and policy procedures. The RHIDF aims to avoid such logjam that has bedevilled the country for DECADES. MMIA was built in 1979, it wasn't built to accomodate what it takes today. Planned for about 200,000 annual passengers, today it handles millions, far beyond original design and severely outdated if you've been there before. In this current plan, there will be a Complete structural overhaul of Terminal 1, expansion of Terminal 2, including a new apron, aircraft parking, access bridges and new ring roads, including enhanced security infrastructure. You have a fundamental right not to use it when it is completed. According to data, total revenue generation for 2024: Murtala Muhammed International Airport (Lagos) → Generated ₦256.067 billion (67% of total) Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport (Abuja) → Generated ₦81.220 billion (21.3%) Mallam Aminu Kano Int’l Airport (Kano) → Generated ₦20.241 billion (5.3%) Port Harcourt International Airport → Generated ₦10.764 billion (2.8%) |
United we stand. When they do well, you hear their tribes- amaka, agba. |
Kukutente23:Judas, the poor now dey finish. No government in the world drops every other thing to take care of the poor. The two can be done together. When is there ever going to be a right time for anything in your eyes? How much revenue does mmia generate? Do you think at all or just made up to oppose everything? |
But opposition was criticizing the state of the airport just few days ago. For me, Keyamo has given us a timeline of 22months to complete the job. Let's see how it goes. The project is not mutually exclusive, and doesn't stop any other good thing being suggested some which are already ongoing anyway. Like building hospitals and schools. For those like Judas who hypocritically say things like why wasn't this money given to "the poor", or that this is another debt. NO, it's not a debt. It's financed by the Renewed Hope Infrastructure Development Fund. Same with Lagos Calabar coastal highway. Presidential Infrastructure Development Fund was created on February 25, 2018 by fPMB administration. Renewed Hope Infrastructure Development Fund was approved by the Federal Executive Council on March 25, 2024 and it absorbed the PIDF. They are both legally and constitutionally valid via executive action. Formed to improve efficiency, reduce bureaucracy and broaden capital mobilization. The opposition aim is in the video link below, don't be gaslighted.
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drLammy:Atiku happened according to OBJ. He kept trying to bribe the senate to usurp/impeach the president. In return, it kept backfiring. The letter writer didn't take such lying low as he kept scattering them. Evan Enwerem June – Nov 1999 Removed over allegations of falsifying name/credentials (controversial screening process)The Ken Nnamani you see there is a close friend of Tinubu that was SP during the saga o OBJ wanting 3rd term. Nnamani still thanks Tinubu till tomorrow for helping him with strategies at that period. CBN Governors since 1960: ⚫Mai-Bornu 1963-67 🟤Isong 1967-75 ⚫Ciroma 1975-77 🔴Vincent 1977-82 ⚫Ahmed 1982-93 🟢Ogwuma 1993-99 🟤Sanusi 1999-04 🟢Soludo 2004-09 🟡Sanusi 2009-14 🟤Emefiele 2014-23 🔴Shonubi 2023 🔴Cardoso 2023- Totals: 🟤SS 22y, ⚫NE 17y, 🟢SE 11y, 🔴SW 7y, 🟡NW 5y |
ClearFlair:Vanguard reporting this is usually anti APC and pro opposition. Adeleke is a known PDP governor. The CodeTemplarr you quoted is anti APC. This thread has zero and nothing to do with APC. But miraculously, APC is your subject of blame and discussion. Do better please, it's another month. |
Seems NNPC cabal is turned on this guy. Na so things dey work for Nigeria. Perhaps northern who is who. |
casualobserver:He's only telling us his level of desperation, just the tip please. He once mentioned two years. Maybe after 2027, he'll beg for one day You know how Tinubu used to give learners one day to be governor of Lagos State. |
Lord lambarino |
Boomark:What translations, am i quoting koran? Which of these translations does not say Spirit of the Lord? How do YOU come to some weird conclusion that the Spirit of God is Holy Spirit except in this verse? 2 Corinthians 3:17 (BBE) Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free. (GW) This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom. (KJV) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. (YLT) And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty; Holman Christian Standard Bible 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. English Standard Version 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. New International Version 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. You want to use two chapters to show me that one verse does not contain Spirit of the Lord, it's called FORCING it. Don't accept na, who's begging you? These are the questions you can help me with, i don't need 2 chapters of twisting and turning. i await your round 5 claim. 1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC 2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo" 3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral" |
Boomark:It's not a lie, you are arguing that the Father is God, YES. To "argue" implies putting forth a claim. An argument is essentially a claim supported by reasons and evidence. More specifically, or word-for-word, you are arguing that the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ. Again, no one disputes this, we also teach it. The difference is the ALSO, we also teach that Jesus is the only true God, and the Spirit is the only true God. The same goes for being God over all, and God of gods. This has already been explained in the rounds, except you want it re-explained. There's no distortion in saying that you claim that the Father is God, especially when i have earlier elaborated in the rounds. If you don't feel that the Father is God, then you can claim it as a distortion. you don't have to talk or think like a robot, like we've never had previous discussions and everything has to be repeated every single time. The teaching of trinity reaches and largely SURPASSES your teaching. That's why there's disagreement in the first place. That the Godhead is not just the Father, but the Son and the Spirit. Lol, i just saw your support a claim thing though. i guess i understood your procedure as strictly a claim and rebuttal thing. That's why i use to say that i wait for your rebuttal. Nonetheless, that does not significantly change much except in your feeding of AI. As you don't trust me or the images and text that that posted from ChatGPT, you don't need to go through the pain of trusting my video. It can be doctored you know? Here's the easy straightforward thing to do, which i suspect you have already done but you're too shy to tell us. 1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC 2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo" 3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral" Round 1 you claim we all, including Jesus Christ, have one God. And that one God is the Father not three persons. All the sentences and key verses that follow show what we both agree in bold. It is only right that i set you right to explain that Jesus is also one God and He is our God, the Spirit is also one God and He is our God. Round 3, you claim again Jesus Christ has a God. His God is the Father and the explanation still rotates around the similar thing. God over all. If you pause and ponder you'll notice that you're just spinning around. Let's hope there's something new in Round 5 though |
Boomark:Ahhhh, Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord except in a particular verse. Wonderful. Where are the answers to my questions and your next claim? |
CBN Governors since 1960: ⚫Mai-Bornu 1963-67 🟤Isong 1967-75 ⚫Ciroma 1975-77 🔴Vincent 1977-82 ⚫Ahmed 1982-93 🟢Ogwuma 1993-99 🟤Sanusi 1999-04 🟢Soludo 2004-09 🟡Sanusi 2009-14 🟤Emefiele 2014-23 🔴Shonubi 2023 🔴Cardoso 2023- Totals: 🟤SS 22y, ⚫NE 17y, 🟢SE 11y, 🔴SW 7y, 🟡NW 5y |
hatchy:Duh, is Obi not opposition again or has he joined the ruling party? |
hatchy:What is sensless about it? Does Obi not disturb our ears about Tanzania and Bangladesh? |
DelphiOracle: Same thing they're probably asking about the Nigerian women having 10 football titles. |
jaxxy:Not sure you read the foundation of the thriving? Oil and good exchange rate. This was the foundation stage where we should have solved our problems of electricity, water, agriculture and other infrastructure like roads and good airports and hospitals. These were the same time the UAE was building, the time when the naira ws close to the dollar and when we enjoyed the world's goodwill after coming out of a long era of military rule. But the profligates wasted everything and literally didn't save for the rainy day. Those were the people that plunged us into today's state. Even NOI knew this and any intelligent person did. https://thenationonlineng.net/okonjo-iweala-warns-successor-of-tough-year/? It's like a man being paid 1million naira and more for many years but lavished everything away and in the process married many wives and had 10 more children. Somehow, his salary came down to 300,000 naira. Now, the kids have to start school, the house rent is due and increased, etc. This is a illustration of what happened to Nigeria. Our uneducated and poor population kept multiplying with little or no plans for them. Any savings buffers that could have helped was spent by the GEJ admin. All that was left was vibes of stay strong and Inshallah. The previous PDP administrations were the chief culprits and cause. Buhari went to start borrowing to build infrastructure, meanwhile rent, school fees debt, interest, transport and car maintenance costs kept piling astronomically as he wanted Nigeria to still maintain the fake life(fuel and FX subsidies). Probably didn't want to be the one to repeat the 1985 hardship ![]() Buhari was not mediocre, i'll agree more with nepotistic though, not strict and supervisory enough and slow. GEJ was mediocre and clueless. |
Boomark:Lolz. Reading this shows that you actually understand what i have been saying. See me thinking of helping you, poor me ![]() Firstly, there's a lot of poor writing and grammatical errors in your posts, i need to struggle and assume your position to easily understand what you are typing. Try to do some revision/review before posting. Think of your life, are you here to argue about suitable subtopics or to actually know if the Son is not God and the Spirit is not God? For the umpteenth time, every christian says that God the Father is God, that is why we are THEISTS. You can't force me to argue that He is not God because you have written some topic or subtopic. Are you looking for the overturning of topics and subtopics or for truth? i have not blamed AI but showed you that AI is GIGO and you need to be careful what you feed it if you want good and not skewed analysis. Remember you said that you're just 2 months old in this. Take advice from an older more experienced user. Be humble. Remember, you are arguing that the Father is God, no one is arguing against that, i am not. We are both arguing that the Father is God, nothing to rebut or overturn. The DIFFERENCE you think the Father alone is God. We say and i say that the Son is also God and the Spirit is God. That is what you should try to disprove or believe, rebut or accept. i'll help repost what your AI said about Hebrew 1:8.
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Boomark:Again, you evaded the question. Here it is again. 1. So, Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of the Lord? |
Boomark:But you trust and believe ChatGPT na, or are you afraid to ask it? Simply say, remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. i think your belief is that AI doesn't change and that it is not based on what you feed it. Ohhh, come oh, did you ask already and you're shy to say? Because all this beating around the bush is suspect. Get it right, the aim of the code or AI prompt was clearly stated by you. Here they are. You wrote them yourself, remember? Please analyze both responses and score this round based on:This is the main thing you should be after instead of being scared about the topic change/removal. Rebuttal is an english word dear. The AI will check if the topic is rebutted, it cannot be neutral to the topic, it is SUBJECT to the topic. Don't take my word alone for it as you evidently do not believe me. Simply ask lord AI "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral?" You need to think and analyse your aim of the discussion. Is it for rebutting topics nobody is arguing about or the above quote? Who is using scriptures accurately, or in context? Who is proving the point or avoiding the point, and who is based on the Bible? As i have repeated, i don't depend on AI for such, but since you believe so much in AI, then set your priorities and focus properly. P.S i didn't find the instructions you posted after round 1. Are they significantly different from the OP? If yes, please show me and kindly edit the OP to reflect what you are using. |
Boomark:Evidently, you do not know or understand what people who believe in Trinity do or teach. The Trinity doctrine teaches that the Father is God and He is over all. Your robotic attempt to keep proving that is laughable, it was never disputed. i have used an illustration with my name a couple of times but it seems to fly past your head. ia am not arguing that you're not Boomark. You shouting and repeating "I am Boomark, I am Boomark" is ridiculous, there's no contest or rebuttal in such a claim. Feeding such to AI is unproductive and a mockery of technology. Use your God given brain dear. Again, no one that believes in Trinity will tell you that The Father is not God, whether of Jesus Christ or of anyone else. We also teach and believe this. Your insistence that it must be rebutted shows you're just here to joke and not discuss. Understand what you are discussing and challenging. That Jesus Christ is God is why He is called God the Son. You continue to ignore this simple fact for whatever reasons. How can Jesus Christ being God not support Trinity, what sort of joke is this? The Bible says Jesus is God, you don't clearly agree or disagree but insist that it should not be used at all. Which kain wahala be this? Should the term 'Bible' also not be used since we don't find it in the Bible? Was the Bible written in English?Jesus clearly told us that he has no authority of his own and that he was sent to do, not his will but the will of God the Father. The will of the Father is the salvation of mankind. This is the reason why God the Father (Yahweh) said, "there is no other saviour but me." Jesus is also called saviour because it is God the Father that made him a saviour also known as Messiah by using him to save the world. If God the Father refused to send him, he will not be called a saviour and the world will not be saved through him. So It is only God the Father that can say besides him there is no saviour. It is the will of God the Father, the only true God to save the world not the the will of Jesus Christ as Jesus himself said.This was not a claim so i wonder what you are rebutting here.The claim was clear; Jesus Christ is called God in the scriptures. He carries out divine functions of Saviour and Redeemer in a sense like no other being aside from God. Try going point by point instead of running all over the place without a good plan except an AI one That way, you can probably pick up at least 1 lesson. It is all these jumbling that makes you run around in circles, which prompted you to seek AI to help you in the first instance. If you calm down, discuss step by step and point by point, like they say line upon line, you'd be better for it.Jesus is called Saviour and there's no other Saviour beside God. Clear and clean. All these reasons are not needed or valid in the discussion. You're stepping outside to get these. i'll be very surprised now if AI doesn't pick up these roaming around. i will now pay some more attention to your AI thing to help you the 2 months user do things better for yourself. God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is clearly the Father who sent Jesus. So God as saviour in the old testament does not apply to Jesus. LORD does not apply to Jesus also because LORD was used in place of Jehovah, the name of God the Father.You must still prove this your LORD and Lord thing from the Bible oh, not by faith. You must use it as one of your claims and proof. What part of the Bible says that LORD is the Father alone and not the Son? This your rebuttal that was endless, are you saying Jesus Christ is not Saviour, since the Father is the true Saviour? |
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That way, you can probably pick up at least 1 lesson. It is all these jumbling that makes you run around in circles, which prompted you to seek AI to help you in the first instance. If you calm down, discuss step by step and point by point, like they say line upon line, you'd be better for it.