Politics › Re: See The Section Of The Constitution That Forbids GEJ From Being Elected Again by immaculatesense(m): 4:32pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
ALTERNATEID: The law came into force in 2018 and as a result, cannot have a retroactive effect on Goodluck Jonathan who was sworn in twice before the law was made. It is settled law that a new law cannot have a retroactive effect. Jonathan can still contest if he so wishes. He is not affected by that section. You people Sha. Where did u get ur education from? Okay, if a new law is passed today that a president and vice candidate can now serve three times instead of the current two. How many times more will Obasanjo and Atiku serve as Presido and VP (ONE or THREE?). So, if you say one (which I agree) why? Wasn't the law suppose to allow him restart and serve three times since according to you it is not retroactive. Why will d law still make reference to his past two terms and only allow him serve once? Think Bro. Think. |
Politics › Re: Why Has Tinubu Stopped Blaming Buhari's Regime? by immaculatesense(m): 4:27pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Validated: All of a sudden the aspersions and castigated of Buhari's regime have ceased. What changed?
Bayo Onanuga and his team were always blaming Buhari's failure, like "we inherited a dead economy". Buhari got us into deep debts., etc.
So, my question is what changed that Tinubu's APC stopped blaming Buhari's APC? So, he should continue blaming the dead? What kind of Culture did you grow up from? I think that is a very bad culture (I am not sorry to say). GO and UNLEARN and RELEARN. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Kenyan Photographer Who Took This Picture And Post It Without Filters Wanted by immaculatesense(m): 4:25pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
brain54: Pls read what I wrote again...
Thank you! Okay. |
Politics › Re: See The Section Of The Constitution That Forbids GEJ From Being Elected Again by immaculatesense(m): 4:25pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
aribisala0: It is not a law but a constitutional matter
Buhari's signature is irrelevant to constitutional changes What matters is that two thirds of the state Houses of Assembly assent
Whether he is eligible if the constitution has actually changed as above is really not down to your opinion which is what you expressed Others have different opinions Explaining the purpose in YOUR OPINION changes nothing. The scenario you described is patronising as if you are talking to children Every one knows how a woman becomes pregnant you don't need to explain
It came about because of Jonathan and had consensus in the National Assembly and it was intended to avoid such problems as arose with Jonathan. It was to come into effect immediately not retroactively and unless thar was specifically stated it cannot be assumed to apply to Jonathan
As with all things Nigerian if he tries to contest the courts will decide
I do not recall if. The state Houses of Assembly passed it Do you know what retroactive law means? Please go and read on it before u come and be using the lingua anyhow. Had he entered in 2015 and served his tenure and the maybe the law was passed today, the law cannot retract his second tenure or strip him of the benefits therein. That is was retroactive means in the contest if the matter in discourse. Not that he want to contest again in two years time and u are calling that retroactive. Do u think that everything that the Assembly pass and signed by the president requires the consent of two third of states? You still have a lot to read on laws. Read bro Read. |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Will Deliver Uninterrupted Power Before He Leaves Office – Minister by immaculatesense(m): 4:19pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
highoctane: Relocating from your present residential area, will be the best decision of your life. If you're living in Port Harcourt, I will enjoin you to move over to where I reside, where light supply many days 22 hours daily. Even if it is interrupted, before you sneeze, light will be restored. You will pay rent and electricity tarrif that match these comfort. Except on occasion where there is an equipment breakdown. Move over where the action is. No mind them, some people will be living in the creeks where them no even get electricity connection and still dey complain. I enjoy over 20 hrs electricity daily here on a steady. |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Will Deliver Uninterrupted Power Before He Leaves Office – Minister by immaculatesense(m): 4:17pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
tito44: You are!
In other regimes during raining season like this, electricity is abundant, but under Tinubu, you hardly see 2-day electricity in a week. It's very disheartening that this govt has failed in all metrics Where do you live? In the creeks? I enjoy over 20hrs electricity daily. Oya speak for urself alone. The light don tire me sef. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Kenyan Photographer Who Took This Picture And Post It Without Filters Wanted by immaculatesense(m): 4:13pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
brain54: I think the old system of monarchy practiced in these places plays a significant role...
Perhaps!
If you notice Africa and the countries you mentioned China and Russia had an older system where monarchy was the traditional form of government practiced. They have that in common though in different forms.
Democracy is a relatively newer form of government which originated from the west (Greece) Introduced and spread to these countries.
Many of these countries with origins of having a monarch just practice a hybrid of both democracy and monarchy. Or a democracy with many tenets or components of monarchy but just call it democracy.
I may be wrong though but it's just an observation or theory that may have some level of accuracy! Did Africa start with democracy? Didn't our forefathers practice Monarchical system for centuries before Democracy came. How are we different from them? Stop making excuses for them. If you want to blame, blame us all. Monarchical system of government works in the Middle East than Democracy. It would have worked here too if only the West did not impose their ways on us. |
Politics › Re: See The Section Of The Constitution That Forbids GEJ From Being Elected Again by immaculatesense(m): 3:56pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
helinues: That's manipulated constitution. Why was he allowed to contest in 2011? The laws was passed by the Senate in 2017 and was signed by Buhari on July 2018. So, as at 2015, he was still eligible because that section of the law was not there but as of now, he is no longer eligible. It is to ensure that no one serves more than 8years in office. Imagine if a president was sworn in last month and died after a month. If that portion is not there, it means the VP now Presido may serve for 12 years. That was why the bill was enacted after Buhari won the 2015 election. You can read more on it online. Thanks. |
Politics › Re: Senate Presidents Since 1960 by immaculatesense(m): 3:25pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Shattuck: it should be unity and not trust bridge, has the south south for example done any harm for it to build trust bridge with anyone, if we are to talk about trust bridge it is the others who should be proving it's trust, it is a case of political marginalization and undermining, the key I would say is southern unity but the south west seem to always never align with the rest of the south when it is not beneficial to it's selfish needs, the best is for the rest of the southern states to form it's own political alliance. Good luck. All the best in your new found political alliance. |
Politics › Re: Senate Presidents Since 1960 by immaculatesense(m): 10:55am On Aug 04, 2025 |
kolexy: The SW was neither President nor VP during 1959 -1966 and 2007 to 2015. In fact the SW was completely shut out between 2011 and 2015. Na why first to do no dey sweet like last to do na. The region(s) that shut us out for 4 years is now on the verge of being shut out for 16 years and if care is not taken will be shut out for 32 years if u do the Maths. Concerning 1959-1966, regional government was the order of the day and the West was deemed to be far far far better than their counterparts. Let that sink. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 8:09am On Aug 04, 2025 |
esnbrutality:
 Come claim am first..make we see how far  Keep developing bro. Ndi Developers. When una get una Biafra or Nigeria decided to split, una go carry am go East na abi. The civil war was a prototype of what may happen in the future and don't think we will be as nice as we were then. We are BRUTAL now. Na una teach us that. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 8:03am On Aug 04, 2025 |
Maladaise: Why you're ranting like a goat, two Igbo girls (Amy Okonkwo and Ezinne Kalu) just powered the female Basketball team D'Tigress to their Afrobasket win against Mali, they are trending all over X right now. Yet again another case of Igbos carrying Nigeria on their backs 
https://x.com/MakingOfChamps/status/1952094602808238230 Lol...na only them play am abi...lol. Unknown names in the scheme of things (I wish them a brighter future but Dem never reach that stage fa) make them keep hustling till every household can remember their names even in the dreams. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 8:00am On Aug 04, 2025 |
stanluiz: Remove SS and NC from your tight list.
Tinubu did not win SS and NC in 2023. The same will happen in 2027. Who won North Central sir? No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 8:54pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
esnbrutality:
 Come claim am first..make we see how far  Keep developing boy. We are watching. |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 8:12pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Maladaise: Female football:
Perpetua Nkwocha scored more goals for Nigeria than Asisat could ever dream of, won more trophies for Nigeria and remains the Female pacesetter for football greatness in Nigeria and Africa before Oshoala could dream of replicating such. The real MVP of the recent WAFCON tournament was Esther Okoronkwo, she and Echiegini (another Igbo girl) are the reasons we won the trophy in Morocco.
Ademola Lookman hasn't won shit for Nigeria, the crux of the argument here is who has won what for Nigeria. So Kanu Nwankwo is the reason why Nigeria won her first and only ever gold medal in Olympic football with his historic goals in that famous win against Brazil, Sunday Mbah won Nigeria her third AFCON trophy with his goal in 2013. Wake me up when any Yoruba player is a 2x African player of the year winner like Kanu Nwankwo. Emmanuel Amuneke's goals won us our second AFCON trophy in 1994 against a dogged Zambian team.
Mikel Obi and Kanu are the most decorated Nigerian football players till date, should I go on?
Music? The likes of Psquare were heavyweights before your wizkid was even a factor, currently one of the highest streaming musicians is an Igbo boy called Chella (look him up),he is topping charts with his banger. He gained significant popularity after the release of "My Darling," which became a viral sensation, reaching #1 on the Global Shazam chart and inspiring millions of TikTok videos. Ckays "Love Nwantiti" has done more global hit numbers than majority of your overrated Yoruba artists put together. Another Igbo boy in America called Shaboozey had the biggest streaming song back to back in a 2 year stretch, a record breaker for a country music genre.
Go to movies if dem born you well: list any current or past Yoruba actors or actresses who are more recognized and famous in Africa and beyond than the likes of Pete Edochie, Aki & Pawpaw, Osuofia, Genevieve Nnaji etc, i dare you so name them 
Go Forbes list now? Me sef get names for you Go ICT and AI if dem born you well, I have names for you there
Let's go band for band. Lol...always making reference to the dead and the retired. Una no get next generation people? Keep mentioning Nwankwo and Mikel and P Square while I keep mentioning those who are still reigning and still hot. Like I always say: "You are the PAST, We are the FUTURE." I grew up watching Igbo dominated movies with the likes of Saint Obi, Emeka Ike, Luiz Benson. But now Yoruba is the present and future of Nollywood. Pastor references no dey tire una? No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 5:38pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Mabuggi88: What of other tribes apart from Hausa/ Fulani He meant Northerners. You can't differentiate a Kanuri man from an Hausa man by their names. You can differentiate a Jukun woman from an Ebira woman by their name due to shared religious affinity. |
Politics › Re: My One-term, Four-year Vow Is Sacrosanct - Peter Obi by immaculatesense(m): 5:33pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Afonjacoward: His track record speaks for him but because you are blinded by hate you can't see it. Lol. Blinded by hate? Na me help am make those statements? Abi those statements no dey part of him track records? OYA DEFINE TRACK RECORDS MAKE WE HEAR AM. NO BE JUJU BE DAT? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 5:31pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
DonXavi: You guys think you're winning without knowing you're building anti-Yoruba sentiment across the country that will eventually erupt not far from now. Why u dey fear for us. You suppose dey happy now. Shebi na make we fall u dey find. Why u come dey pity us. Jagaban has these all spotted on. We no fear. We dey gidigba No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: My One-term, Four-year Vow Is Sacrosanct - Peter Obi by immaculatesense(m): 5:28pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Softmirror: Obi should contest against Tinubu to prove that he won both Atiku and Tinubu in the last election. Na our prayer be that na. Make TINUBU , ATIKU and OBI recontest make we have a rematch of 2023 and know who the real winner was. I am sure TINUBU will enter the ring with assurance while Obi and Atiku will still be hoping one steps down for the other. But Obidients know this for a fact but then no go still agree. We dey wait for Obi to contest ooo. He should not be VP to Atiku to prove that he is more popular. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Bye Elections: Labour Party reacts as INEC delists all Party candidates by immaculatesense(m): 5:25pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Donake: InEC portal or the Supreme Court? Who recognizes parties Lol... Who enforces court judgement? Dey there dey decieve yourself like say u no dey Naija. Supreme Court declared Local Government Autonomy. Why them no enforce am? You think it is Supreme Court that will enforce it order for you and not INEC? Dey there. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 5:22pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
MadPolitician: Future harvest kee you dia.. Trying to make it look like we all have a level playing ground? Yoruba aligned with the North and neo colonial Britain to hyjack political leadership in Nigeria through a vicious war. That's what happened. Political ostracisation of the igbos is an entrenched ideology within the federal level in Nigeria. Igbo marginalization has absolutely nothing to do with how politically smart or not the igbos are since the inception of democratic rule. It has everything to do with neo colonial proxies in Nigeria, utilising state power to corner the resources and the economy of the whole country as a war booty. Period! Stop with the obfuscation of facts E pain you now abi? What did Azikiwe do to Awolowo with the North? We even lose Kwara and Kogi because Azikiwe supported Ahmadu Bello to let Kwara (80% Yoruba) be with the North instead of West out of wickedness and bitterness. But first to do no dey pain na. E dey pain u now. Your are now the one shouting that we schemed you out of power play. You hand upper hand during the first Republic. We have Upper hand NOW. Keep CRYING. It is Our JOY. The more you CRY. He HAPPIER we are. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 5:13pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
MadPolitician: 1. 2025, Ministry of Transportation budget: N256b
2. 2025, Ministry of Aviation budget: N72b
3. This N712b to rehabilitate MMA is not coming from the approved budget. So where is the cash coming from? It's from the Renewed Hope Infrastructure Development Fund (RHIDF. The RHIDF is an executive action to create a piggy bank separate from the FAAC, without legislative oversight and in disregard to the concept of Federal Character
4. What else is the RHIDF funding? 4.1 Rehabilitation of Terminal One at Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA) in Lagos. 4.2 The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway, 4.3 Sokoto-Badagry Expressway, 4.4 Lagos-Kano and Eastern rail lines.
5. To summarise, the RHIDF has more funds for infrastructure than the federal budget
6. This is illegal as only the NASS can appropriate and spend tax revenues. A president can't take oil revenue and spend it as he wishes because the FEC said so.
Why then do we have a budget process? Send ur recommendation of impeachments to the Assembly since you believe the president has made an Abberation. Better still contact your representative to help pursue your grievance. There is no assembly on Nairaland. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 5:10pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
MadPolitician: He should also prepare on how to deal with the aftermath. That's because folks won't keep quiet for long. Thus is where The fulanis are a lot better than you lot. At least they care to understand the importance of carrying others along. Tinubu is intoxicated with power. You oppress a people to a point you should be bracing up for the consequences. Enough should be Enough with this nonsense. If you want all positions for the Yorubas, do well and get yourself a brand new republic. It is that simple! Preaching One Nigeria at every turn while cornering every position, every contract, every project and every appointment for your people is the height of political irresponsibility. It's also very interesting that most Southwesterners are showing their true nature by aligning with this deplorable trend of events. We will all be here to see who laughs last.. Lol Which Aftermath? He will win hands down. All these ur talk no concern me. Appointments and infrastructural developments na part of wetin him don talk wen Buhari dey do him own. Him talk say "Yoruba lo kan." Don you know what that meant? My advice to Igbos (though they won't take it). "Endure everything now and stoop down to observe until u lay your hands on Presidency. Don't be too confrontational, just strategize and make right political calculations." But I know they won't listen. Yoruba will never be taken out of the scheme of things. We are too strategic to be looked down on. Another president will come but he has no choice but to respect us because we hold a lot of sway and out strategy and tenacity is second to none. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 4:53pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Maladaise: In Basketball, football and other areas of sporting endeavors, it's Igbos carrying Nigeria and putting us on the global map...but somehow Igbos are not good enough for any administrative or political roles in Nigeria, and you think Nigeria will make it like this? Lol...LIES. FOOTBALL: Female: Rasheedat Ajibade (Yoruba) player of the Tournament. Asisat Oshoala (Yoruba) most decorated African Player with most African Best. FOOTBALL: Male: Ademola Lukman (Yourba) Current African Best Player. ATHLETIC: Tobi Amusan (Yoruba) World Hurdles Record Holder. MUSIC: Male: Wizkid (Yoruba with Grammy). Davido (Yoruba). Burna (Half Yoruba with Grammy). All are the top 3 world stars from African descent. MUSIC: Female: TEMS (Yoruba with Grammy). Arya Star (Yoruba). Tiwa Savage (Yoruba). All are top 3 world female stars from African descent. Make I no go movies. Make I no go Forbe list. Make I no go Technology and AI. Back your claims with facts. No go mention those girls wey dem names just enter line light just last week wey never even sure if their future (though I pray they excel). UNA GO JUST DEY TALK PROPAGANDA WITHOUT PROOF. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Tahir Tanko Cbn Appoints 16 New Directors Full List by immaculatesense(m): 4:48pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
I was telling one guy on another segment that Jagaban no fear the Core North. E no even rate them. He has successfully planned how to win the election using divide and rule tactics of the North themselves. Baba go just hold South West, South South and North Central tight, cut some reasonable percentages from NW and NE. Make PDP, ADC and LP dey drag who go win South East, North East and North West make him just win total votes with 25% requirements. Gbam.
No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: My One-term, Four-year Vow Is Sacrosanct - Peter Obi by immaculatesense(m): 4:41pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Lol... He said his track records speak for him. Then I asked what the track records were. I realized the track record was that "He will NEVER leave APGA" and "He will CONTEST again under the LP platform."
He has broken BOTH promises. So, His track records show that HE IS A LIAR. He wants to decieve Hausas. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 4:27pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
SouthSouth1914: Northern southern protectorates, independence, etc. Didn’t you attend the four walls of any school? So, if it was after independence it means Lagos was capital for 23 years right? Now Abuja has been capital for over thirty years now. My question is simple: Why has Abuja not become the economic hub of Nigeria and why are people still flooding to Lagos and not Abuja if being the capital is something to grapple on. Shey u go answer without insults. |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 4:23pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
SouthSouth1914: Please get some enlightenment before coming on a public forum disgracing your old age! Lol...so, according to ur post now. Lagos was capital for 23 years. My question is simple. Abuja has been capital for over 30 years now. Why is it not yet the economic hub of Nigeria? Abi na after e reach 100 years? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 4:19pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
esnbrutality: Land rent .that is irrelevant to cost of property? Increase it astronomically so that the property itself becomes useless, so that they can demolish it themselves and sell the barren land off.
They need BIAFRA so you can have your paradise..
Unity begging is petty. Demolish keh...no ooo...how will we demolish wetin u help us develop? Abah na...Ndi developers are developing for us na. Na to just revoke una C of O and take over the facilities na. Sorry, no worry. Keep developing. Shebi we are lazy. Keep working for us ehn. Thank you for the development you have brought so far. More energy to your muscles. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 4:13pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Gbogboski: The Igbos should double down on asset aquisition in Lagos.
He who owns the most property owns the city.
Lagos is ours for posterity Lol...Chai. So, you old like this an you no know say na State Government get all the lands in a state? Don't you know that state can revote the C of O on land at anytime? Why you think say person still dey pay ground RENT to government after person don buy land build? Lol...he who owns the most property owns the City MY FOOT. NA STATE GOVERNMENT OWN EVERYTHING. No Be Juju Be Dat? |
Politics › Re: Is It Time To Strip Lagos Of Her Status As Nigerias Economic/financial Capit by immaculatesense(m): 4:09pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Christistruth03: You are still paying Land Rent in Lagos because you are TENANTS on the land Lol...E pain me as you tell am Sha. Chai. He doesn't know that it is state government that owns land and that is why the government can revoke C of O at anytime and demolish the building. Obi's brother's building was demolish and tears don flood everywhere. If Igbo develop anything for Lagos or SW, na Yoruba people get am last last especially if the country comes divide. |
Politics › Re: El-rufai: Nigeria's Survival At Risk If APC Wins In 2027 by immaculatesense(m): 3:35pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
TruthHurts1: Nasir el-Rufai at an APC rally in Kaduna in December 2022
Nasir el-Rufai, former governor of Kaduna, says “we may not have a country” if the All Progressives Congress (APC) wins the 2027 elections.
El-Rufai spoke on Saturday in Sokoto during a grassroots mobilisation campaign for the opposition coalition — the African Democratic Congress (ADC).
The former Kaduna governor said he joined the coalition to ensure the APC is voted out of power.
El-Rufai, a former APC chieftain, said he is ready to mobilise Nigerians to eject the “incompetent” ruling party.
“I’m not in politics to get anything for myself. I’m in politics to serve,” he said.
“When the government does not serve the people, it is my duty as a senior citizen to come out and condemn it and take steps to reverse the situation.
“That is why we come together as people opposed to the policies of this government to form the coalition, which has resulted in the adoption of ADC.
“We are in Sokoto to begin the process of mobilising Nigerians against the APC government anywhere and the federal government in Abuja.
“I believe that if we allow this party and the government to continue for a second term in office, what remains of Nigeria’s social capital will be destroyed, and we may not have a country at all. This is a fight for our lives.”
El-Rufai was one of the founding leaders of the APC, but in March 2025, he left the ruling party for the Social Democratic Party (SDP).
His exit came over a year after his ministerial appointment was blocked by the national assembly over alleged security concerns.
The SDP recently announced his expulsion from the party and banned him for 30 years, citing alleged forgery of membership documents, among other issues.
The former Kaduna governor is now one of the leading figures in ADC — the opposition coalition platform.
https://www.thecable.ng/el-rufai-nigerias-survival-at-risk-if-apc-wins-in-2027-this-is-a-fight-for-our-lives/
Mynd44 Lalasticlala Nlfpmod If the Northerners are wise the singular question they would ask him is: You told us PDP was bad and we should vote for APC we did but what happened after. You told us Tinubu was the best after slice bread, what happened after two years. Now you are saying the APC is bad and ADC is the best. EL RUFAI, GIVE US ONE REASON WHY WE SHOULD TRUST YOU. BTW WHO IS THE NORTH? A Kanuri man or a Tiv woman or an Hausa boy or an Ebira girl. Who is the North? |