Chakula what do mean when you say this is madness an ignorance, I want to know in details. Thank you

If the man came back to live because he listened to pastor chris then am sure it true because pastor chris is a gift to this generation. God is using him so mightily

Joagbaje you are when you a Christian is a super human because he is created in the image and likeness of God he had to be a spirit being because God is a spirit.He was created so that by partaking of God's. Nature he will became a child of God. If he were but a physical or mental being he could not receive God's nature. He had to be a spirit being, an internal being who would live as long as God lives. God had to creat him that way so he could be the companion and associate of Deity.God also gave him authority over all the laws of nature. Every living thing is subject to him.

well i dont think what yoiu are saying is currect no true pastor do that. but you must also understand scriptures too as the bible lets us know that the church is not a place for perfect people but a place were when you come, you can be perfected eph 4:11-12.

Ganjaseed:

I do not need to talk about the lifestyle of the members of the church because am not to judge, but i noticed one thing that the congregation do not know the Bible but rather prefer Rhapsody of reality, so they can be told anything and it will be accepted without finding out if its true.

you do not judge a minister by the lifestyle of the members because if you do that then Jesus would have been a very bad minister, because he had Judas iscariot not only in his his congregation but as his co-worker.
The minister is there to change the lifestyle of the people as the church is not a place for perfect people but a place for perfecting people

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Eph 4:11-12 (KJV)

joeagbaje, any one reading your post should have understood it in a simplycity, except some one that have an altirior motive.

there are no two word of faith, so any one talking about another word faith is a deciver
Ephes. 4:5
   One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Understanding faith is not much of a great deal, except you don't have a teacher over you, which should be your Pastor
1 Timothy 6:12 says Faith the good faith of faith.
If there is a fight to faith, then there are enemies to faith or hindrances to faith. We are looking at a vital subject where a lack of understanding can hinder your faith.
Romans 10:17 says so then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
A lack of knowledge of God's word is the greatest hindrance to faith. Naturally, if faith comes by hearing the word of God as Romans 10:17 says, then it follows that a lack of hearing and understanding God's word produces a lack of faith.

pastor joe, please dont mind the likes of viaro, he has just fail to understand that what you dont know is biger than you and that and that as far as naira land is concern viaro is history .Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. {is skillful: Gr. hath no experience}
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. {of full age: or, perfect} {use: or, an habit, or, perfection}viaro is a babe.

inedi:

PASTOR CHRIS TUESDAY MARCH 2ND

EDUCATE YOUR SPIRIT WITH THE WORD,
physical exercise has some value but spiritual exerciseuture is valuable in every way, because it promises life both for the present and for the future ( 1 Timothy 4:8 GNB).
The most succesful people in the world do very little thinking, yet achieve so much.This may come to you as a surprise but it's the truth. They have learnt to look to their spirits for answers. To be very successful you have to train your spirit. As a new creation in Christ Jesus, your spirit can be an accurate guide because that's where the light of God is: " The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching for all the inward parts of the belly" (Proverbs 20:27).
Your spirit can recieve light from God; ideas and thoughts that'll make you creative and excellent in all you do, such that you'll hardly find yourself in trail-and-error situations. But for your spirit to be an accurate guide, you have to educate him. This kind of situation is different from what you get from school. School education only helps to get your mind enlightned , but won't suffice for you to be the best in life. That's because the highest potential of the human nature isn't in the mind but in the spirit.
So begin the exercise of educating your spirit with the word. Do this by studying and meditating on the word consistently. Spend quality time to listen to God's word regularly! That way, you develop your spirit for success and excellence. God's plan is for you to have your spirit educated so he can relate with you at a high level.

Prayer
Dear Father, thank you for the revelation of your word to my spirit today. The entrance of your word into into my spirit grants me the light by which I function in the high levels of glory! As i study and contemplate your Word today, my spirit man is illuminated to become a sure guide. Therefore I know I won't walk in confusion, for I have in me the light of life.

FURTHER STUDY
27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
Prov 20:27 (KJV)
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 5:14 (KJV)

thank you for your contribution but i'll appreciate if you start your own thread, thank you so much again

PASTOR CHRIS TUESDAY MARCH 2ND

EDUCATE YOUR SPIRIT WITH THE WORD,
physical exercise has some value but spiritual exerciseuture is valuable in every way, because it promises life both for the present and for the future ( 1 Timothy 4:8 GNB).
The most succesful people in the world do very little thinking, yet achieve so much.This may come to you as a surprise but it's the truth. They have learnt to look to their spirits for answers. To be very successful you have to train your spirit. As a new creation in Christ Jesus, your spirit can be an accurate guide because that's where the light of God is: " The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching for all the inward parts of the belly" (Proverbs 20:27).
Your spirit can recieve light from God; ideas and thoughts that'll make you creative and excellent in all you do, such that you'll hardly find yourself in trail-and-error situations. But for your spirit to be an accurate guide, you have to educate him. This kind of situation is different from what you get from school. School education only helps to get your mind enlightned , but won't suffice for you to be the best in life. That's because the highest potential of the human nature isn't in the mind but in the spirit.
So begin the exercise of educating your spirit with the word. Do this by studying and meditating on the word consistently. Spend quality time to listen to God's word regularly! That way, you develop your spirit for success and excellence. God's plan is for you to have your spirit educated so he can relate with you at a high level.

Prayer
Dear Father, thank you for the revelation of your word to my spirit today. The entrance of your word into into my spirit grants me the light by which I function in the high levels of glory! As i study and contemplate your Word today, my spirit man is illuminated to become a sure guide. Therefore I know I won't walk in confusion, for I have in me the light of life.

FURTHER STUDY
27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
Prov 20:27 (KJV)
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 5:14 (KJV)

@kunleoshob,how can you say the cec members are threatening you or wanting to be your friend. Why do you think you are that important. In case you don't know in this nairaland you are very insignificant cos you are a very contradicting and distracting
Person. You think of yourself as important meanwhile nobody can learn from you because you don't have what it takes to teach people .

Father i bind every poising from this food, in jesus name we pray

Mudley313:


so, (i repeat), since its established dat god can write. dont u find something wrong with the book u're quoting from above, refered to as "gods word" but was written by men, when evidently god can write? god was supposedly present during all the happenings in the bible so why leave the authorship to men who where not physically present wen a talkin snake was tempting eve or wen moses was chattin wit a burning bush?

u dont see anything wrong with the veracity of men who claim to have written the words of a god that can write

Foolish question, If God writes a book will you accept it? will you believe?
The one God wrote did you believe? Your DNA and all the organs of you bodies were written by God . If you dont accept his existence how will you belive any physical book he writes.

Psalm 139:16
Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

He is a great man, He even cmmended TB joshua of doing great work.

Mudley313:

did u watch the video at all? what about dat little boy dat was supposedly healed of blindness at d crusade but is still blind till today??

It is not verified if it was the boy , and whatever the case , if it was him or not,that is not an issue, It is possible to loose a healing if the person stop following God , satan can take occation to afflict him again. It is like a doctor telling a man that has heart problem not to smoke again, and the man goes back to smoke , if he dies, you cant blame the doctors.

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

It is wrong to kill in the name of God

KunleOshob:

The coming of John the baptist was supposed to have fufilled the prophecy of Elijah coming back.

According to Dakes bible commentary, John only came in the spirit and power of Elijah, but not actualy Elijah, since Elijah is still bodily in heaven.

i belive the two witness are Enoch and Elijah, because the bible says every man must die. Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Enoch left without dying and Elijah too, they have to come back and die.

Marlbron:

The rapture , though a popular concept for christians is not bibilical. It is a misreading of the scripture. Reference of clouds throughout scripture is used to depict the glory of God. It does not mean that he will come from the sky. Caught up together in the clouds is to be in one spiritual accord with Christ. How do you get caught up with him? It is by practising his injuctions; Love, faith, all good virtues.Not only professing them but practising them.

Where is the air? I think the air is the earth, not the hades, which is below the earth. That is why it concludes by saying that "so shall we be with the Lord ". In other words we will be with the Lord forever on earth.

Think about it carefully. God created you on earth. Will he in his 2nd coming take you to the sky? What's the point in him coming to the earth plane? What is the point of isaiah 9: 6 and Rev 12:5? Again the beatitudes in mathew already spells out the fate of the good guys- They will rule and reign with him on Earth!

Avoid reading your own meaning to scriptures. If the bible says we shall meet him in the air , dont say it is earth.
Of course we will live on earth forever, but you must understand that after rapture, we will be in heaven for a period of 7years while the nation of Israel and those on the earth go through the tribulation under the regime of the antichrist.At the end of the 7 years We will come down with christ to fight for israel when they finally acknowledge him as king in the battle of armageddon. Satan will then be arrested and bound for a thousand years. This is called the milleniial reign. We will reign with christ over nations on earth for a thousand years. Then after that satan will be released from the bottomess pit for a season. he will go and decieve many again. This will lead to the final battle between good and evil ,the battle of Gog and Magog. Evil will finally be defeated. Then there will be the white throne judgement. The wicked will be cast to lake of fire. death and hell will be cast to lake of fire also.

It is after all this that God will make a new earth where we will live forever, God himself will come down to the new earth to stay forever. This old heaven and earth will pass away.

, helloo ,

But I didnt write the bible. what about Isaiah prophecy

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

It says good and EVIL

Genesis 2:17
   But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

if nothing was wrong with the tree why would God not want them to eat. That means there is a curse on the tree. and God said they "will surely die" . moreover he said ,knowledge of good and EVIL. "EVIL"

In my understanding,the gospel is not against prosperity

John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

when a man is blind he does not know he is blind, any one who says pastors are crooks is blinded by then God of this world, read Eph 2:2-10.you are walking according to the world system(evils that that runs like a stream through the world, you are like you father the devil, the aciuser of the brethren pastors are from above ye are from benith. am not suprised because you are a fufilment of the scriptures.

Ojame:

@ lastpage
Well said!!!! The bottom line is that there are some who see 'pastoring' as a way of making easy money off the anxieties of the vulnerable.
I have seen many so called 'pastors', in the UK, usually African, mostly quite recent arrivals, turn from having 'nothing', to being very, very rich! I recall one such person being rather upset and angry when I gave a training session on the 'role of trustee's' and pointed out, that as trustees, they have a responsibility to ensure that the finances of the 'church' were maintained in accordance with its articles and memorandum of association as a charitable body. I further pointed out that the 'pastor' was in effect an employee of the 'church' and not the owner. In most cases we find that the 'tail wags the dog', with pastor's determining how, when and what will be done with the money! In this case, his wife and children collected, counted, and took away the 'tithes'. No accountability, no records, no holding the pastor to account. Of course he suddenly started driving a big 4x4 Mercedes, moved from a housing association property,(rented) to a big house in the suburbs, bought his daughter a house for her birthday. Ladies and gentlemen, this was within one of the biggest pentecostal names in Nigeria! I not only knew this guy, I knew his entire history-he had been one of my trainees on arrival from Africa. So, there are crooks who masquerade as 'men of god' ripping people off, and it seems it pays off and will continue to do so as long as there are the vulnerable, screwed up by this biggest of confidence tricks ever devised by man, Religion! Before anyone gets carried away, let's be very clear, there is a difference between one's 'faith' and 'Religion'.

Did he send you to do the training? Did you present the content of your training to him before presentation? If NO, you are rebellious. Leadership does not come from the bottom but from the head. if you have a suggestion you should have gone to him privately first.

If only his wife and children collected offerings, which i doubt it must have been a very small church. And how much can a small church generate that he can use to buy 4x4, bought daughter a house for birthday. Did you ask him to know the source of the money he used to buy the house and he told you it is from the money his wife and probably 2 or 3 children colleccted he used to buy it?

what is wrong in a Pastor driving 4x4 any way, is he not a human being? I recently sent a car to someone that Pastored me in my school days for the impact hee made in my life. Let somebody call him theif that its the church money he used to buy the car.

Why do you guys think every thing about church is all about money? A pastor cannot make money from people but rather the congregation is blessed by the reason of the pastor's annointing when they give tto God through him. It is the person that give that is more blessed for giving, that is scripture;
2 Cor. 9:6
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

pastors are not crooks like some of you think, they are a blessing to our world, we have so much testimonies from all over the world how god has blessed peoples life through the instrumentality of our men of God. and if you are in the habit of talking against men of God, i want you to stop it, because it did not start with you, it happened to the old testament folks, pls read the book of numbers 16 from verse 3 to33 and see what happened to the family korh,dathan and abiram, just because the spoke against moses.am not telling you this to scare you but mto bring you to an understanding of spiritual things. tithes and offerings are our act of faith as instructed in the scriptures, live us alone with our faith, may be you don't give tithes and offerings or you are not even a christain, the truth is you are not better than does that give tithe and offerings or richer than them, it might also intrest you to know that gratest and richest men in the world are tithers and giver.

@pastor AIO and KunleOshob
this same pastors you label as crooks and armed robbers in suits are the same ones who bless lives and change destinies
i for one am an example
my pastor has made me who i am today
right now i am financially independent, i don't ask my parents for money but rather i think of how to bless them and what to give them
i was taught how to tithe by my pastor, give to God and to men, pay offerings and give seeds to meet needs
now i'm affecting the world from a stand point.
my money has gotten to the nations of the earth
but ive noticed that at every point in time when my giving stops or my tithing stops or decreases, my finances are affected seriously.
so what do i do then, I LISTEN TO MY PASTOR