i thought forgiveness was only for the saved

if you are born again a nd your church teaches it then you bether surrender all , but i most tell you its a good surrender

as for me the God that i know and has revealed him self to me by Jesus being the lord of my life and his word in my spirit. is a loving Father. God is LOVE

you see why it is important to be born again and Holy Ghost filled and above all to know the bible for you self. so that you will not responed to ignorance in an ignorant way, rather you teach the truth. just look at how you are all responding to this story.

sory but if this is true, the does demons needs to be casted out

does an unbeliever have the capacity to forgive

Lord i love you, weords alone can not express what you mean to me, am so happy for sunday service it was the bomb, expecialy when you started giving me does direct instructions, Lord i reafirm today that all will be carried out. thank you sir. i love you Father, i love Jesus, i love you Holy Spirit and i love my pastor, thou at a prophet of God

Inedi what are you doing?
sir am at your service sir,
alart and ready for your instruction sir
what will you have me do for you sir,
No Inedi i mean are you free.
yes sir am free from the concernce of the world, but i also know that the life that i now leave is not my own, but for me to leave is Christ.
am a soldier sir, just say the word
and conseder it done sir
Inedi are you okay with it?
yes sir, yes sir
yestarday i caried 366 instructions you gave, and no complane sir
today what would have me do Lord?

yes sir yes sir

yommyuk:

Forgiveness must come from the heart. The Holy Spirit enable us to forgive generously. The ongoing work of Christ's followers parallels the work of Christ. Christ followers do not distribute and withdraw God's forgiveness on a whim, but they are to follow Jesus prompting through the Holy Spirit.

John 14:30-31

I do not have much more time to talk to you, because the ruler of this world approaches. He has no power over me, but I will do what the father requires of me, so that the world will know that I love the Father. Come, let's be going"

Who is the ruler of this world? Satan. Unforgiveness is satan's domain. But the Lord's domain is full of forgiveness. Ps 118 "His mercies endures forevermore"

so what you are saying is that as a christain you most always forgive no matter what? this is our life as my father is so am i. thank you Jesus

God got angry at the children of isreal @ the wilderness

God also destriod two cities because of there iniguity. sodom & gomorai

am a soldier, soldier of the lord in the name of i have congared

Flawless:

What would you say to people that you keep forgiving but kept on offending you? Trust me there are some difficult people that seriously do not want to be forgiven. I find it so easy to forgive people and even apologise when they are in the wrong but I have learnt to realise that people sometime miss use this and there by take you for a fool. All I can say is that may God help us all cos some people are just the devil incarnate.

Jesus say you have to forgive, seven multiply seventy which about four huondred and ninety times (490) like i said for you to start counting till this amount so you can nail him or her, then you most be a devil

apaert from unforgiveness, there are other blessing blocker, like hattred, what do you havE to say?

LoveKing:

This is my dream. i want to rule the world, i want to be the main Anti-Christ that seats on the throne over the nations. I just need the anointing. i hope we are ready for this.

it will be a wonderfull thing, you will be famus for seven years and after that, but you need to come and buy form because there are other persons intrested in that position, and what satanic party are you

no it is not a sin

am still waiting for cases, thank you

benodic:

@ inedi\

i addressed God exactly the way It is. God is not a man or a woman. It is formless. comprising of a body of pure light that only purified souls can approach.

for you to understand my point of view, you have to be ready to go beyond what people are telling you about what God is and what any book or scripture is telling you about God.

you have to be ready to step into your own inner worlds and meet God in the kingdom within. after the experience you will then realize that a lot of things circulating in the world today about the nature of God are mere fallacies.

the question is, are you ready?

you nobody is informing you ba. you can only talk like this because you dont have a relationship whith God, i will only understand you in this area, that in you heart you long after God, and all you could get was what was given to you right now which is mans search for God the deferent religion in the world, i dont no which one of them is your own, but i can tell you they are all mans idea, but there is a one way you can fill that emty space in you, and thats by recieving Jesus as your lord, and the very nature of God that you deaire will be your forever

benodic:

@ poster
the Supreme God is so far removed from the human conditions and behaviours and relates only with souls in their pure forms.

It does not have emotions. it does not have a mind and so does not analyze issues. it does not have a material body.
to approach It you have to go beyond the emotions and you have to go beyond the mind to the world of pure spirit where exist no opposites and where all things are one.

my friend the way you even adress God in your writing is amazing to me ooooh, how can you address God as it, pls in case of next time, address Him as He, because God is a person, he has a personality. after all the bible says God is a jeloyuse God, and jelousey is a function of fellings, so i think God has emotions

Demain_man:

You talk about forgiveness as if it is that simple! Why then do the likes of MFM and the other pentecostal churches always pray that Fire should burn their enemies? Why? Abi forgiveness no dey their bible??

For so many of you, Na only to preach. You never practice it. Typical. Dat is why our society is awash with evil. Mcheeeeew.

pls if you think forgiving someone is not that simple and easy as some have said, but can you pls tell an event that you think you can not forgive, because i whould want to agree that no matter what you can forgive, for every problem there is a solution, for every hurt there is healing which mean you can forgive and even forget.

pls i will like us to look at cases, maybe, we can realy look at forgiveness in contest when we have some cases, so what are the posible cases of forgiveness and the ones we can not forgive. thank you

forgive, forgive, its easer said than done, we know that Jesus thought in the bible that if your enemy offend you forgive, then his followers asked him, how many times will our enemies offend us and we will continue to forgive, and Jesus said seven x seventy that is about 490 times. and if you have to start counting your enemies offences till 490 times then you can nail them, then you too must be a devil. my question is this, Jesus teaching was based on your enemy, what about your loved ones, mother of father.

i can never forgive, him or her, what are the implications, am i right or wrong concedering what the person has done. pls share you views i beleive somebody needs to know this,pls let you view be biblical. thank you some one is waitying to be free.

my friend let no man decieve you islam and christianity do not come from the same source, islam is mans search for God, and christianity is God in the heart(spirit) of man. they can never come from the same source, light and darkness can not be the same, islam is only a parvation of christianity and a more of judaism, like the five times prayer every day, washing hand and feet and dress code.

Jenwitemi:

Whatever floats your boat. But you should know that all you wrote up there is nothing more than just your own personal opinion which is, if i might add, colored by your own preconceptions. Therefore, not too many people are going to be bothered with you and your "views".

well i think what i wrote was very timely thank God you did read it. the scripyures let me understand that the days of ignorance God overlooks but He commands that all men should repent. take my advise or you face it, when noah preached to the people in his generation, what did they do, they told him, that, whatever floats your boat, thats nothing but your own personal opinion. think about it you and your friends thank you

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working [color=#006600]that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;[color=#006600] 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 1:18-32 (KJV) those of you that your job in nairaland is to destroy men of God, and to also teach fauls doctrine, deseving inosent hearts . you most stop this act of your.
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Titus 1:15 (KJV)[/color]
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. [/color] 1 John 1:7 (KJV)
see aso what the next screpture will say
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

John 3:16-21 (KJV)

iyke619:

Pastor Chris Oyahkilome is at it again. In a statement reported by a christian website Discerning the World Discernment for Africa he was quoted as saying: "Jesus is NOT Gods Word anymore, You are!!". This statement is unbiblical, although it is in consonance with the new age teachings of the New age churches, who echo the secret doctrines of freemasonry that denies the divinity of Christ while emphasizing that man is God. Since Freemasonry has attempted so strenuously to claim that they are just a "good ole boy" fraternity that does good works and has a good time, most people will be shocked to learn the bitter truth behind that facade. Freemasonry certainly isn't "free". It could cost you your soul.

Although they will deny it to you at first, most Masons find out in later degrees that the great lie of Masonry is exactly the same lie Satan is living. Masons think that through masonry one can chisel away layers of oneself, similar to how one creates a beautiful statue out of rough stone. And they think the end result will be no need for God; because they think the perfect Mason is like God. Pages 50-51 of the Mason handbook makes this quite clear - but not to the initiate. Masons are lied to about everything in the 1st three degrees. Satan and Masonry have the exact same goals. The secret goal of Masonry is to subjugate the world for Masonry, and be like God. see more at http://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm.

This goes to show that Oyaks has more to do with freemasonry than christianity since he is preaching their doctrine. Jesus' divinity is eternal. Man is not God but we can be the sons of God when we accept Jesus into our life.Thats why the bible says: "But as many as recieved Him, to them He gave the right to become the children of God, "(John 1:12) and not God. Some people misinterpret Psalm 82:6 which says: "ye are gods, " The hebrew word interpreted "god" there is "elohim"which in this context means "judges". God has appointed His children to judge even angels,but that does nt make them god, thats why verse 7 says: "But you shall die like men, " If they shall die then the are not gods, because gods are immortal. But satanists misuse this verse to promote new age teachings of man's godhood,and demotes Jesus' status as an ordinary perfect master, a mere cosmic Christ as the occult would refer Him to be. The attempt by man to equate himself with God was made manifest in the tower of babel, its also the spirit behind Lucifer who said, " I will be like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:14),until he was brought down like God did to the tower of babel. So will God bring down pastor Chris and all other masonic pastors who try to denounce the Godhood of Jesus Christ.

Pastor Chris is an agent of the devil, a masonic pastor ,let the world beware, [b]"by their fruits we shall know them"

[/b]kenneth Copeland another exposed masonic pastor preaches the same doctrine. Kenneth Copeland chants the words "I AM" which is a Masonic initiation term. Hear him:
"And I say this with all respect, so that it don't upset you too bad. But I say it anyway: When I read in the Bible where He says, "I AM," I just smile and say, "Yes, I AM, too." Believers Voice of Victory broadcast July 9 1987
During the ceremonies of the Masonic ritual for the Royal Arch degree, the candidate is asked, "Brother Inspector, what are you?" and he replies, "I AM THAT I AM."
When Jesus told the jews before Abraham was "I AM" he was claming to be the God of Moses who went by that name. This is why they tried to kill him immediately. Kenneth is claiming to be a God. So is oyaks teaching the same thing. see more on : http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/kennethcopeland33rddegreefreemason.htm
see also http://lighthousebaptistchapel.com/tag/33rd-degree-freemason/

my friend two things you must do for yourself, as a babe,(nepios)
1 Go and study the word of God, so that you will not bring shame to you and your household,genaration.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15 (KJV)

2 Yield youself to Discipline
you just reminded me of Ruben in the bible, his father told him that unstable as water, thou shalt not excel. The worde '' unstable'' is translated from the Hebrew word ''pachaz'' which has two fold meaning. First to be unstable, second means to be unrestraind or undisciplined and an undisciplined preson lacks principles. the bible says 32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

    33 The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
Prov 15:32-33 (KJV)

father in thje name of Jesus we thank you for today and for the joy you have brought to you people, it will remain in their heart forever amen

I will start How to Receive your Pastor as a gift,
''wherefore he saith, when he ascende up on high he led captivity captive, and gave unto men'Ephesians 4:8'
Jesus is He who has ascended. This scripyure tells us that Jesus gave gifts unto men. Let's examine the next scripture to see what these gifts are.  '' And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:11 (KJV)
Who gave these gift? Jesus. To whom did He give them ? Us. Okay, let's look even further to see why He gave us these ministry gifts. ''For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:12 (KJV)
Let's make sure we understand exactly what is being said. From whom did apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers come? God. who gave them to us? Jesus. To whom did he give these gifts? The church. Okay, church, I ask you this simple, biblical question: How did we get these apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastor, and teacher? Did we buy then? No. If we didn't buy them, do we have to pay for them? No. Did we steal them? If we didn't steal them, we don't have to hide them, How did we get them? They were given to us, and if thgey were given to us, they were and are gifts. The heavenly Gift is in them, so they must be a vessel God endorses or why would He gift them?

This topic will benefit us a lot, and i have broken it down to different sub-topic
1. How to receive your Pastor as a Gift
2. How to know your Pastor and His Wife
3. How to Esteem Him Highly in love
4. How to pray for Him
5. How to communicate to Him
6. How to follow Him
7. How to Obey His Teachings

I began to really examine the situation, and as I observed, I found that God's people did not know how to relate to their pastor, pls make your contribution, and let it be of help to the body of Christ and pls if you are not a christian you have no business here thank you.

WAIT O point of observation, this so called ymodulus that is an uncircumcised philistine is the on asking us Question and we are busy replying him, i think the best thing for this guy is to shot up and not to give the devil the attention he is asking for because he is a defeated fool, that those not have any new stratagies. what does ymodulus know about the bible that he is asking i thought he said he a Realist, pls i will advice that you stop involeing your self in Christains matter, or if you are ready to recieve christ let us know, we will give you life becaue the reason you are like this is because you have a dead spirit.

I will like to discuss the necessity of prayers . We have often heard people say such things as "All. About life is destiny". "if God says I will be poor , there's nothing I can do about it" "if God says I will be sick , there's niching I can do about it" etc.

Firstly does God have evil plan for us. And is it right to put the responsibilities of our failures on him? is He responsible in running our livers for us?    

From my understanding of scriptures, God has good plans for all his children. He takes no delight in seeing any suffer. Poverty and failure and sickness are not from him.

Jeremiah 29:11
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

A man may miss Gods plan and purpose, that is why prayer is a necessity . We are not sinners in the hand of an angry God who hates us and enjoys to see our suffering.  When we pray we are not  Begging him to give us some little blessing, but rather through prayer , we align ourselves to his will,plan and purpose.

Thank you so much for this topic, just a few days ago my heart went for God's people how that we need to pray, and how timely is prayer coming at such a time as this. The problem is that the people that have this challange are christains, i would that all christains woul come to know that God is Good, and seeks our Good.  

For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
Psalms 100:5 (KJV)
The bible declares that God is good. It doesn't say He's a good God, but that He is good. He being good means He is good personified; His nature is goodness, for the bible say,     How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with Him
Acts 10:38 (KJV)
Jesus went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil because the good God, who seeks the good of every man was with Him. God delight in giving His children good gifts. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
James 1:17 (KJV)
In JEREMIAH 29:11 He said.     For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
The word peace, as rendered in the original Hebrew text is ''shalom,'' which refers to great good, wholeness, wellbeing, prosperity, safety, rest, etc. So, always, God seeks our good; He delight in our wellbing, health and prosperity. This is the od that we serve. He's not a hawk looking down from heaven, pointin
g a threatening finger at us, saying '' you sin, you burn!'' No! Rather, He looks out tous to do us good: Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul
Jer 32:41 (KJV)
2 Chronicles 16:9 also describes for us a loving heavenly Father, whose concern is that we get the best He's prepared for us: '' For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Notice also the words of Jesus in Luke 6:35: ''
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil
Here, Jesusalludes to the Father's kind and  affectionate disposition to all men, urging us to be likeminded. And the only way to achieve all of these is in your prayer so you can function in the centre of God's will for you life God has don it all so wake up , and take posetion of what belonges to you.