GeoAfrikana:
May Allaah accept their deeds and forgive their shortcomings. Indeed death in Hajj is a good sign. Some died in brothels while others died in bars. Some others died on cocaine pilgrimage to India, US et al.

However, what bothers me about most Nigerians is that only a few really understand the religious significance of Hajj. The vast majority only go for social affluence while others see it as mere tourism and sight seeing. Indeed a person will only get reward for what he intended.

May Allaah accept their deeds and forgive their shortcomings. Indeed we will soon join you, even a hundred years on earth is like the blink of an eye when death comes. May Allaah bless us also with a good end.

Rashduct4luv:


I know you won't be able to answer the questions but to dodge it. How many people prayed in Jesus name in the so called Gospel? When Jesus was being asked how to pray and he gave the Lord's prayer did he pray in Jesus name? Anyways i do not believe in the Bible just as you do not believe in our Qur'an.

Anyways, I stick with my believe forever till i die as no Prophet Preached Christianity as a religion in the Bible. Jesus never told anyone to accept him as Lord and saviour.

And it is hypocrisy when sons of God in Gen 6 were humans but the son of God is not human but God. It is either both are humans or both are God.

Rashduct4luv:


Cherry Picking is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.

Jesus was not the one talking in John 3:16. No where did he call himself God or say worship me.

Why didnt you quote this all these:

1.It has always being Obey God's commandment and his Prophet.
Just then, a man came up to Jesus and inquired, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to obtain eternal life?” 17“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied, “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18“Which ones?” the man asked. Jesus answered, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness,honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself.’All these I have kept,” said the young man. “What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me. Mathew 19:16-21

2.Jesus can not put people in heaven
Then the mother of Zebedee’s sons came to Jesus with her sons and knelt down to make a request of Him. 21“What do you want?” He asked. She answered, “Declare that in Your kingdom one of these two sons of mine will sit at Your right hand, and the other at Your left.” 22“You do not know what you are asking,” Jesus replied. “Can you drink the cup I am going to drink?” “We can,” the brothers answered
You will indeed drink My cup,” Jesus said. “But to sit at My right or left is not Mine to grant. These seats belong to those for whom My Father has prepared them. Matthew 20:20-23

3.Jesus can perform Miracles as human but does not know the hour. His knowledge is limited.
Jesus said: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Matthew 24:36)

4.Jesus prayed to the father by bowing. He was really afraid. God praying to God? Was God praying to himself here?
Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father... (Mathew 26:39)
So he (Jesus) left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, saying the same thing. (Matthew 26:44)
One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. (Luke 6:12)

Please do not mention me again if you can't answer my questions.

Jesus is entirely human not God.
God is God and cannot become Human. He sends Prophets and Angels to humans.

I testify that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad and 'Eesa son of Maryam are both Messengers and slaves of Allah.

Rashduct4luv:


I think you are mixing things up here. See the Qur'an verses you brought. Jesus was given a scripture but John was not. Take the Scripture means the available scripture of Tawrah. This is the context.

I dont think there is a new way of worship. Even when Jesus was about to be taken by the soldiers and he was afraid. He prayed by putting his head on the ground. Who was he worshiping? Himself right?

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed (Matthew 26:39)

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:cool

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:cool

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)

Rashduct4luv:


Wait, do you now agree that the original teachings of Jesus is lost since John recorded some injeel teachings of Jesus. And we say all Prophets are Muslim. It is not the Scriptures that made them Muslim but their total submission to the will of God the Almighty. In Islam, Messengers are different from Prophet. A Messenger is also a Prophet but superior because he has a new scripture. Jesus was a Messenger as well as Moses, Noah,...., Abraham and Muhammad. Zakkariya and John were Prophets and Prophets use earlier scriptures.



Subhanallah! When the Bible calls Jesus son of God, he was truly the son of God but the son of God in Gen. 6 was referring to humans right?
Anyways! So the sons of God that were humans mate with women and gave birth to giants. Why? Because they were men right?

You still haven't answered this question.





A. Here Jesus the son of God is not Human entirely but just human in flesh? But you claim up there that sons of God were humans entirely.

B. If Jesus was truly the same as God and did miracles then why couldn't he answer this questions in a direct way:

1. But as for that day or hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32

2. “What do you want?” He inquired. She answered, “Declare that in Your kingdom one of these two sons of mine may sit at Your right hand, and the other at Your left.” 22“You do not know what you are asking,” Jesus replied. “Are you able to drink the cup I am going to drink?” “We are able,” the brothers answered. 23“Jesus said to them, "You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father. Matthew 20:21-23

God is not a man (Num. 23:19).

Rashduct4luv:


Both religion did not agree on John being given a scripture! John was not given a new scripture. It was the Tawrah he preached. He was to learn the Tawrah with determination

drips8:
He doesn't even have to work a day in his life, he better use the money well cause most[/qoute]gggggggggg

DaySpringer:
There is this general saying... That you can meet a man in two months and he can have good intentions and marry you and there are men that can pretend for as much as year just to have sex

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with you and still leave after he has gotten what he wanted

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DaySpringer:
There is this general saying... That you can meet a man in two months and he can have good intentions and marry you and there are men that can pretend for as much as year just to have sex with you and still leave after he has gotten what he wanted.

I don't believe in "A man will be loyal for who he wants to be loyal for". That is just a platitude that many ladies use to placate themselves after making poor judgements in character. They also use this to stop themselves from going into more detailed analysis of what they have missed during the relationships and the red flags that they may have ignored.

Loyalty is a core character trait that is not turned off or on depending on the person that the man is involved. Loyal men would rather break up than cheat.

So How can a lady Identify a Good man that is serious and has good intentions for her.
Ladies you are invited to share your opinion based on your experience.

What are the red flags that give you advance warning that at the midst of all the pretence that this guy might not be whole he really seems.

I have a belief that no matter how someone pretends, they cannot do a 100% perfect pretence game just the same way no football team can maintain 100% possession in a 90 mins football game, that is the same way that a pretended will at one time inadvertently reveal his true intentions.

So Ladies, based on experience what are the tell tale signs and

Guys, give the ladies a sneak peak in the way we think, what are the ways that a guy might drop the ball in his pretence game , that a lady might be tempted to just ignore as part of relationship issues that she absolutely must not

ATTAH012:
Sowore... pity ur family naah

Ogagist3:
Victor Ogunyinka The Federal High Court in Abuja High has granted the Department State Service, DSS, permission to detain publisher of Sahara Reporters, Omoyele Sowore, for 45 days.

Sowore The DSS had filed a motion to the court to detain the convener of the proposed #RevolutionNow protest for 90 days, but the court only granted 45 days.

Evo11:
Hi

Empiree:
do you understand my posts at all?. I said I referred to Bible quotes you quoted above about Joseph and Mary. Please re-read again, thanks



The only relevant story in your Bible quotes is birth of Jesus as Luke narrated.

Empiree:
First all, the story around Joseph and Mary is irrelevant in Islam whether it is true or not. That's not what God wanted to work on. God's mission was to send messanger(Jesus) to the children of Israel to guide them to the truth.

As you can see from the verses of Qur'an you quoted, John and Jesus identity are very clear. But look into Bible verse you quoted. It is one of the many confusions in christiandome.

Example:


For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.


Look at this Bible passage very well. It calls Jesus Savior with capital S. It goes further to call Jesus Lord with capital L. These are the reasons CHRISTIANs can not truly figure out identity of Jesus. A verse like this is quoted by Christians as evidence of Divinity (God) of Jesus. So confusion sets in for them. Let me give you second assignment.

Kindly show this verse and ask as many different CHRISTIANs a you possibly can what the verse means. I can guarantee you that some will use this verse as evidence that Jesus is God and Son of God. And some CHRISTIANs will also disagree. If that happens do you still think true desciples of Jesus wrote Bible?. This is your assignment. God is not author of confusion

budaatum:

Neither of the narratives is literally true. No one was born by a virgin nor do they speak when born. Yet, spiritually, both are true as they both convey the relevance and importance of Jesus. Just think, since your claim would be someone wrote the latter, they could have claimed the Prophet was born of a virgin and he spoke as soon as he was born.

The stories are not there for you to just believe, but for you to gain an understanding from.

Empiree:
you don't need to rush to conclusions and condemn muslims. The truth is glaring and this is how you know Jesus teaching is almost non-existent amongst CHRISTIANs and Jews.


Ask 10 CHRISTIANs if Jesus is God and wait for their answers. If their responses collaborate then, they have true message of Jesus. If however they give you conflicting responses like some say Jesus is God. Others say, no he's not God but son of God. Another set of Christians say Jesus is both God and son at the same time.

Then, you should ask yourself what exactly Jesus disciples wrote down about Jesus?. It is a matter of sincerity on your part. Islam however is very clear about Jesus. You will never get conflicting reports about who Jesus is.

So I am giving you this assignment to do your research. Your logic is Quran came much later which means it could not have corrected Bible. The question then comes, which one of the many Bibles Jesus preached?. Again, it is about sincerity in your part to inquire critically.

Empiree:
I seen your confusion.

Let me tell you what you don't understand. God doesn't have language. He communicated with us in a language we can understand. Quran used "message" and "Book" to describe mission of Prophets and messangers. Also Quran uses the word "Book" to describe Divine scriptures revealed on tablets (Lauh Al-Mahfuz).

So if God speaks of Book doesn't mean injeel (in book form) dropped from the sky. Rather it is the message itself that were later coverted to written form. So bottom line is, true message of Jesus was lost. Whether you call it book or message, it is lost. It is true that desciples must have written some infos about Jesus and his mission. Some of the truth of what they wrote down is what we found today in the Bible.

What is clear is that Bible today is not injeel. If you think it is, then onus is on you to provide evidence that Jesus wrote and compiled them.

Jesus did not write anything down. What we have evidence for is here was sent with message.