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felixomor:
I dont think so

TrapQueen77:
my eyes on u.... Like okpoporo

TrapQueen77:
Uummm.. Really?

TrapQueen77:
Aha... But still u wanna bang young pvssy even let's say u have a matured lady?

TrapQueen77:
Young men. Preferred matured ladies nowadays...






Aaahhmmmm.. I wonder why?

Achorise:
Yeso, but hope you are in charge not Jesus, cos he can only be in control while we are in charge.

Achorise:
My real guy I'm just chilling, how was your ?

Toks2008:
I appreciate your input Isaac but let's be frank here.

Is there any normal human who can do without sexual urge?

Your very first comment on this thread says it is misleading because we have very weak internet users who may see it but then I ask...how many believers out there do fornicate steadily due to sexual urge?

I have many lady friends who have told me how stroking themselves have helped them keep off from fornication.

Now if there is one thing I have learned on this thread its the fact that many people agreed that masturbation is not fornication but uncleanliness by their understanding though

So if indeed it is unclean habit shall we call it sin? NO

So the bottom line is that given the options of fornicating, masturbating and bottling sexual urge, I'm happy that those weak internet users will now have a better option than fornicating if they can not bottle it up.

Whether it is a sin or nor, the fact remains that till date we have only been able to give it human meaning as the bible is totally silent about it so to that person who feels bad about it, keep off but if your conscience does not judge you then it is left to you.

In America the pastors have more sexual sins to preach against but in Nigeria I guess our religious nature still sees an innocuous act such as self servicing as a sin even for fully grown men and women who ought to be parents but are still single due to several factors.

God help us all.

Achorise:
ok, Dad.

Milo30:
No, I am not blind. Be calm bro, I am a fellow Christian and I am not trying to pick a fight with you. Being called a hypocrite is not being insulted. A hypocrite is a person who doesn't stand by his word, who claims to believe one thing and then follows another. When Peter was eating with gentiles and Paul came with other Jews, he refrained. That was hypocrisy. Paul rebuked him and he repented. Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites multiple times, not to insult them but to make them check themselves. That is why I said nothing about him 'insulting' you. All you had to do was be sure you aren't one and tell him you are not one, rather than insult him and buttress his point.

Achorise:
I read everything sir, but you are rather too harsh on him by calling him a son of devil , asking someone you don't know if he's blind, it not a good courtesy , it's not a positive attitude.

mrphysics:
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,… the truth have been revealed to all men. I have up on the op when I knew what manner of man he is. How can u begin to teach him deep things of the Scripture, when he is yet to understand the basics.
Hebrews 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

mrphysics:
Don't mind him. follow up the op's topic and u will know the kind of person he is. People have advised him yet he is hell bent to his heresy and i only blame the MODs for helping spread his message because it's not the message of Christ. Christ can't teach such a thing.

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. (Jude 1:23)

Milo30:
Well done o. Well done all of you. Shey we are all going to the same heaven? You will meet him there and tell him all this right? You 'intended' (if you actually did) to correct him, then you ended up insulting him. You try to declare something a sin and then you sin and don't even recognize and apologise for it. Whether or not we agree as Christians, we have no right to declare anybody hell bound. Be careful of rash judgement. Correct one another with love. That is the call of the Christian faith. May God have mercy on us all. As for the subject matter, if you can self-service with Jesus standing by your side and looking at you, then go ahead with it. What you can' do in His presence, avoid it. Hebews 12:4 In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. I will leave you to decide if it is sinful or not. Just know this, if you can't do it in God's presence, then don't do it at all.

Achorise:
That isn't the best way to correct bro.we can educate but not condem

grossintel:
pls answer and stop running. We want to learn and its obvious he defeated you already.

analice107:
Am not sure you read my post.

If you believe that atheists are not satanists then you are yet to discover your environment.

1. Out of greed and cheap popularity, pastors have taken the street into the church rather than taking the Church to the streets. Those pastor are not interested in the salvation of souls for which Christ died for. My question to you is, how are they faring Spiritually?
So you think the Church is a building and how populated it is?
A Church is where the power of the Holy Ghost is being made manifest. Not fabricated manifestations, not occultic induced manifestations. I mean undeniable manifestations.

2. You are very Funny. Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, all his Apostles were Jews, his other followers were Jews. Jesus Christ did not come preaching outside of their holy book, He preached their religion. The colt was owned by Jew, the five loafs of bread was provided by a disciple.
This your analogy is not in any way connected to my points.

Seun is an Atheist. A man who will pay to see people turned away from Christ. The question is, why will he want to give out his money to further the Kingdom of Christ? Until that question,
*I no dey*

Toks2008:
You are beginning to sound lame again..you know what, I would love it if you can be humble enough to keep mum over this matter cos I'm tired of your shallow mindedness over this matter.

Toks2008:
Of course I wrote this to liberate people who have been enslaved by heresy, to bring back many people who have given up on their salvation because they felt they are not good enough for Gods kingdom because they self service and to expose hypocrites who come online to form holier than thou but are more enmeshed in shitty stuffs.

Nuff said and do have a splendid day.

Toks2008:
Obviously you have nothing to say..OK sit on a couch and get this straight.

The real shame is that people are lumping whatever they assume is in the English phrase "sexual immorality" and then claiming, as you did, that masturbation is part of it but you are so very wrong

Sexual immorality involves Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals, sexual intercourse with close relatives.

Sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mark 10:11

One can also go through the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament to see what Hebrew words were translated to get an idea of what the word meant. You will find:

zanah - to lie down like a prostitute ( Jeremiah 2:20 ; Micah 1:7 )

zenunim - Harlotry, prostitution ( Hosea 1:2 ; Nahum 3:4 )

zenuth - Unfaithfulness, prostitution ( Numbers 14:33 ;
Jeremiah 3:2 ; Hosea 4:11 )

taznuth - Harlotry, lust ( Ezekiel 16:15 ; 23:7 , 11 )

The actual Greek word for masturbation was anaphlan , which does not appear in the Bible.

As I pointed out in " Is masturbation sinful or not? " the act of masturbation would fall underneath one category of uncleanness, that of ejaculation. Unclean things in themselves, such as pigs, death bodies, menstrual periods, etc., were not sinful in and of themselves.

Breaking the laws in dealing with unclean things was sinful. Since God did not define the act of masturbation as sinful, nor as righteous, it would be sinful to add or subtract from what God said.

Instead, we look at what typically accompanies masturbation and there we find plenty of things to talk about why those accompanying things are wrong.

But even here, the accompanying sinful things, such as pornography, are sinful because the Bible condemns pornography ( I Thessalonians 4:5 ).

Can you see the way I have used the scriptures to buttress my point?

That is what I expect from you.

Toks2008:
You are now communicating so my questions are;

Is thinking about sex a sin?

How does masturbation becomes sexual immorality?

If I'm married and my wife travels, is it a sin if I masturbate thinking about sex with my wife?

As an unmarried person is it a sin if I ease off thinking about sex?

Please note that you are now discussing the matter from the scriptures so I would like you to back up your answers with scriptures.

Toks2008:
If I were you I will keep off this thread rather than come here to ridicule yourself

I'm happy the bible is still with us so if you cant make reasonable contribution with biblical reference just keep mum and sulk in your hypocrisy

I'm eager to learn and I can't wait to change my mindset but I'm not ready for town criers like you..Yes I'm hard on you and no apologies..I just detest hypocrites.

firstking01:
Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.

Toks2008:
If you have ever self serviced,fornicated or watched pornography or lust after a lady in the last 30days then you are the most hypocritical hell bound person in existence.

I am not passing judgment but im stating the fact.

Many people are in hell today because of people like you as you keep preaching one thing while practicing another.

Many ladies refuse to get born again because they cant imagine not wearing jewelries, trousers and putting on make up and weave ons. Amazingly, many guys have reneged their faith as believers because they can't stop taking alcohol and i really wonder if drunkenness is the same as taking a bottle of stout or a glass of wine.

Believe me, GOD in his infinite awesomeness will look down and laugh at the foolishness of men when it comes to some issues.

[b]Whatever you get addicted to becomes detrimental to your life and that does not make that thing a sin so please call a spade spade.

Addiction to food, water,Internet,normal drugs and so on can be harmful to you but does that make those things a sin?

It is so unfortunate that some of you coming to talk down on sound minded individuals who see self service as a potential bad habit if unchecked rather than call it sin goes to show how shallow minded you people are.

I am happy that i am on nairaland to point out the hypocrisy of many people and i really dont give a hute if lalasticlala does not put some topics of mine on front-page...for all i care,i have passed the message.

A married woman or man whose spouse is not around for a long time can masturbate with super relish just imagining making love to the spouse and in like manner an unmarried person can ease off by thinking about sex which is perfectly normal as human or is thinking about sex also a sin?

But when you watch porn to masturbate, you lust after the characters in the film or magazines and when you watch porn at all, you also commit fornication cos you lust after the characters as the bible says if you LOOK at a woman or man lustfully it becomes a sin.

My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless.

Many people are in hell today because after they gave their life to christ, they see themselves still self servicing and in their own mind because of the false doctrines from people like you and firstking01 gave up their salvation because they felt they cant make the kingdom of GOD. [/b]


If anyone comes online again to discredit what i wrote up there without vivid back up from the sriptures na e-slap sure pass for that person.HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.

analice107:
That's the thing. Nebuchadnezzar made that mistake too and he was reprimanded. But, our generation is a complex one in that, Grace allows us do as we pls until the end.

The means determines the destination.

My concern really is for those who'd be deceived into throwing away their faith without any clue that most of this atheist (Satanists) are fighting hard to meet targets given to them by satan.

Christians go for evangelism to win souls for Christ, Muslims wage Jihad to kill people for Allah, Satanists,(atheists) are also working hard to pull souls down for Satan. It's a battle that will go on till Christ returns.

ALL THIS BATTLE IS TO CLAIM THE SOULS OF MEN. MAN HAVE NO IDEA HOW PREVIOUS HIS SOUL IS.

youngestland:
here we go again lol so tell us why christianity cant be compared with other religion?
and I give this back to you
Most times I wonder why someone would come outside and say "THERE IS God"
you christians feel too superior and act it its just not cool this earth is for all of us the same right you have is what I have we have rich and poor, sick and healthy muslims and christians, rainfalls on the christians sun shines on the muslims and so on abeg una no dey important atall.