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JMAN05: are you a kid or what? ask me again. go and address my question let me understand you. You think am here to play?

you ask question? Or you wont answer your contradictions

akpos4uall: Since according to you, he has not been able to tell the difference, please tell us. I will love to know the difference between a Spirit & Spiritual Being. Give examples of each as much as possible. Thank you.

goto the link posted you will see the answer

JMAN05: meaning?

what is meaning?

Haibe is making a serious joke of him self. Denying his own word even when he sees it face to face.

haibe: Show me where I SAID GHOST MEANS PHANTOM OR ILLUSION.

YOU ARE TOO DULL

So if the word mankind refers to both a man and a woman, does that mean a man=woman? or that man=mankind?

he already did.

ravgach: HERE YOU GO AGAIN:

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he has always been like this. Change is view each time he posted. I don't even know what he believes. Sometimes he sounds like he is saying ghost exist sometimes he sounds like they don't exist.

in one sentence he will say someone saw a ghost and close the sentence by saying ghost don't exist.

haibe: No you did not, read well.

1) I attended a night vigil yesterday,
2) A ghost is the disembodied spirit of the
deceased.

Are this 2 sentences wrong or right/which is
wrong and which is right?
I can't help but laugh the way you are
dodging the question

how can sentence be wrong. Sentence is not a word. You love making fun of your self.
if they say disembodied spirit of dead person a sentence telling you it was person that was dead exclusively angels not among.

if they just say disembodied. That means it is a dictionary word that means spirits like angels ghost etc.
it means existing without a body.

then 2 words are put together like disembodied spirit it simply means spirit that was in a body but it leaves the body and exist outside the body. It is understanding of English that will help you here

haibe: face your own wahala first before helping someone else cure his own.

by the way ravgach doesn't care about Greek words, the kjv is 100% accurate to him.

it is not about kjv it is about interlinear. This is not about war it is about teaching you. I am not helping him it is you i am helping to understand

haibe: You didn't still answer the question completely.

If you don't know what it is please just tell me, you are TOO PROUD to admit you are wrong.

Now go back and completely answer the question.

I know night vigil is wrong because it is tautological, vigil happens at night so the night there is unnecessary.

please completely answer the question.

hahaha. I answered it. Again see the example of spoilt car that answered your yes or no question.
advice learn what adjectives pronoun noun and noun phrase is. It will help you.

haibe: this is what I said, I quote:


The greek word translated ghost in that
verse is PHANTASMA, phantasma means
phantom in english and according to my
dictionary phantom means an illusion or a
ghost

Now show me how this means that a ghost is an illusion.

My brother repent, don't go to hell fire oo because of argument so you won't burn for "all eternity" lol

ohboy you be case. Did i not prove to you in the room when Jesus appeared to them pneuma is the word talked about? And when they saw him at the lake it was phantasma. You wont even take the bibles word.

ravgach: LET US REMIND YOU OF WHAT YOU SAID:

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you know what is funny? I showed him that phantasma was not used there but pneuma was used which means spirit. He was shocked. Jesus said pneuma don't have flesh and bones.

haibe: 1) I attended a night vigil yesterday,
2) A ghost is the disembodied spirit of the deceased.

Are this 2 sentences wrong or right/which is wrong and which is right?

I can't help but laugh the way you are dodging the question

English is making fun of you. There is nothing like night vigil.

night = noun
Vigil = noun
you cannot use a noun to qualify a noun.

night vigil is a name of an event churches do. For example your church is holding an event they name night morning.

haibe: I am not talking of it being a single word, its obvious you are only trying to dodge the question.

1) Is the dictionary right referring to ghost as DISEMBODIED SPIRIT?

2) Will I be right to use NIGHT VIGIL in a sentence?

Please I am talking of word usage here and not whether they are different words.

Please in need a YES or NO answer, no beating around the farm

i made it clear to you and you still don't understand. Read again especially where used spoilt car as an example.

if you cant learn or know how adjective pronouns and noun works you will have comprehension problem which you are showing

haibe: pronunciation(IPA): /ɡəʊst/(IPA): ghost

The disembodied spirit; the soul or spirit of a deceased person; a spirit appearing after death; an apparition; a specter.

The mighty ghosts of our great Harries rose. — Shakespeare.
I thought that I had died in sleep/And was a blessed ghost.— Coleridge


Is the dictionary right by saying THE DISEMBODIED SPIRIT?

you are a case and you should be in school. Do you know what an adjective and noun is?

an adjective is used to describe a noun. Disembodied = adjective
spirit = noun
the 2 are not one dictionary word they are 2 words standing on their own. One is describing the other. I tell you about spoilt car. Spoilt is an adjective and car is a noun.

this is jss1 stuff you should know them. To make sentence you need adjectives noun pronouns all of them have their function. Because you see full sentence in dictionary don't make it a dictionary word.

tell me can you play embodied spirit on scrabble? I can play handbag, sandbank, etc

haibe: Is this glorified body a physical body or a spiritual body?

physical. Jesus says he has flesh. Job says he has flesh. Isaiah says dead corpses will arise.

Assignment for you. Open any dictionary and search the word disembodied spirit let me know if you find any.
and tell me what the dictionary writes as the meaning.

you cant spell a word like disembodied spirit on scrabble

if that is a dictionary word then you are saying spoilt car is a dictionary word when it is 2 different word brought together to form a meaning or explain the state of the car being spoilt.

there are words like handbag this are not 2 words but one dictionary word. You see the difference?

haibe: Is benalvino your god?

benalvino went off point, he didn't answer the question

Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

this is how john described Jesus, now is this how a physical beings looks like? the Jesus that was crucified is this how he looks like?

Can we also say the Ancient of days is a physical being since daniel described him like Jesus here?

haha. He answered it. That is how the glorified body looks like. The body will change. No be you say the body will change? Compare it to the transfiguration of Christ.

no off topic benalvino nailed it. Not like your own god jman who seem to contradict him self and could not answer my question.

haibe: Okay is the dictionary right by saying DISEMBODIED SPIRIT?

lol it is 2 words merge together don't you get simple explanation?

haibe: But why are you a liar, you said no such thing as disembodied spirit and then you quoted a dictionary where disembodied spirit is used forgetting you have initially said no such thing like disembodied spirit.

Guy be truthful, you don't need to lie because of an argument.

ohboy read my post. I said disembodied spirit are 2 words merge together and went on and say disembodied stands on his own.

haibe: You refuse to answer this too.

why should i answer? When you show ignorance and refuse to understand English. Ok let me analyze

he was in the form God.
he took the form human. Form has changed from spirit to humans. If you have seen me you have seen the father.

he died God exalt him.

so show me where the bible says he took a form again to i.e he took the form God again? Like the way he was before he came to earth?

benalvino answered it for you i mean Daniel you quote.

haibe: Here there is no such word like disembodied spirit:



Here there is a word like disembodied spirit:


So you can see your contradiction?

You see how you are not willing to learn and thus going around with what you aren't sure of.

I don't just know what to say to you again

look at meaning one. Tell me if disembodied did not stand on his own?

when someone die and the say disembodied spirit the next thing that follows is of the dead.

for argument sake.
disembodied = angels and every spirit because the don't require a body to exist.

disembodied spirit = dead person who left is body behind.
i ask jman again did Jesus become disembodied spirit? Who materialize and deceive his disciples saying i am not a spirit when he is a spirit. Did Jesus lie!!! Something they worry this guys o.

https://www.nairaland.com/1471955/flesh-blood-resurrected-body-born

go and learn

haibe: no you are questioning the bible, the bible gave the perfect description of Jesus as a spiritual being in heaven and yet you still say Jesus is a physical man in heaven, you see yourself?

what verse?
and you still haven't said why job and Jesus have flesh when they resurrected. What about the other saints that resurrected and was seen by people when Jesus died? Were they with flesh or not? You say we will be invisible how come the town saw them.

thanks to the post from my friend benalvino
everything was explained, flesh and blood every single problem you have go and learn

haibe: I thought you said dictionary is wrong with the words DISEMBODIED SPIRIT and now you are asking someone to reference the wrong dictionary? lol

you never understand no be so. Disembodied means to exist without a body simple. If you say disembodied spirit you have to add "of the dead" it will tell the listener that you are talking about ghost of someone who died. See definition from longman dictionary


dis‧em‧bod‧ied


1 existing without a body or separated from a body:
disembodied spirits


2 a disembodied sound or voice comes from someone who cannot be seen

from the above angels exist with out a body they are wind, you cant see them.

haibe: Oo so now image means appearance abi?

I thought you said the image of the heavenly body doesn't mean appearance, lol.

If he is the exact image of the invisible God, how can he be visible?

hahahah don't you comprehend the English?
you are questioning the bible not me.

twice the bible says he is the exact image of the invisible God. Thank you full stop. Go and write your own bible and change that.

JMAN05: God disembodied from which which body? all the angels disembodied from which body?

the bible says: there are earthly bodies and their are spiritual/heavenly bodies.

grab a dictionary close to you and learn. You are making me laugh

benalvino: the ancient of days is referred to both Christ and The Father.
There can also be no doubt that the reference in Daniel 7 is to God as Judge. A similar description occurs in Revelation 1:14-15, wherein Christ is described as having snow-white hair and blazing eyes. In Revelation, God the Son is depicted with the same power of judgment over His church as the Ancient of Days is described as having in judging Israel. In fact, His sharp gaze judges all seven of the churches in Revelation 1–3 with complete clarity of the reality of all there is to know.

The title "Ancient of Days" is found only three times in Scripture, all three in prophetic passages in Daniel 7:9, 13, and 22. Verse 22 refers specifically to Jesus whose judgment will be part of the end-times events. In Daniel 7:13, the term “ancient of days” refers to God the Father, and we see Him on His throne as Jesus, the “Son of Man” approaches the throne on clouds. God is a triune God, meaning three Persons in One, and at different times “Ancient of Days” refers to Jesus Christ and at other times, to God the Father. But in the prophetic sense, it clearly refers to Jesus, the Ancient of Days returning to pronounce judgment on the world (Daniel 7:22).

The trinity

Recall he is the exact image of the invisible God.

haibe: Is that the answer to the question?

let's assume Jesus was a physical being, how did he relate with the spiritual beings in heaven?

How did Mary relates to the angels?
what about other people who had conversation with angels?
why do you think Jesus cant relate to them in heaven with his transformed body... His hair is like wool etc.

haibe: The greek word translated ghost is phantasma, I don't know how you want to go about it.

Let's assume Jesus meant he was not a spirit being, how did he relate with the spiritual beings in heaven?

if you will delude your self go on. i showed you the two case. one pneuma is used when jesus told them he is not a spirit.

the other case at the lake phatasma is used. you act blind now. we all know you can see.

haibe: @itsfact you didn't answer this, I have answered all your questions but you are dodging mine.

see your answer. philipians 2:6-7

haibe: Well I have said all that is necessary here, you don't have to believe.

Whether phantasma or pneuma, Jesus was not a ghost (apparition of the dead), he was a spiritual being(Alive).

hold on to your belief.

you dont like to accept itsFacts? hahahahaha you just got surprised when you confirm that jesus wasnt talking about phantom when they saw him in the room.

so you whether phantasma or pneuma. tell me who is arguing that jesus is a ghost? no one. jesus even made it clear he is neither pneuma nor phantasma to the disciples. he did not stop there he said pneuma dont have flesh and bones.

haibe: did job tell you his body WILL NOT change at the ressurection?

I think I should leave you to belief your false ressurection with a physical body when the bible says we will be changed from a physical body to a spiritual body.

Hold on your belief.

it will change but he will still have his body(flesh) as jesus told the disciples that he has flesh.