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I was going through a thread where some jehovah's witness claim Satan is a divine being. I am not surprise because the jehovah's witnesses have always spread lies.
Same people claim Jesus is a FALSE god, same people claim we are same god as Jesus. Why should anyone listen to them? From their bible to what comes out from their mouth are full of lies.
Same people claim that Jesus is not important as our savior.
They claim other prophet are as important as our savior as Jesus.

Question!! Why should anyone want to be a witness with satanic teachings like this?

Now you have seen the length JWs can go. I dont know the kind of Jesus or God they worship this teaching is demonic tying the devil with God.

j.tenna:
Now logicboy, no need to be hostile or result to insult.
I agree that the early leaders were racists. But that wasn't a part of our doctrine like a sister earlier mentioned and it never was.
The gospel we preach is true and perfect and will remain true. It will never pass away. The only thing that remains untrue and imperfect is the nature of man. Our early leaders were guilty of that(imperfection). They have prejudices just like we all. we who were discriminated against, can we run away from the truthfulness of the gospel all becos of the imperfections of man?
Anyway that issue had been long resolved and we d latter day saints are all one big family, no matter the country or race,and moreover, we don't
and I mean DON'T hide anything from the world. Anything you wanna know about the church I am willing to share but yòu have to be spiritually and physically prepared for the truth.
Now @the mormons in the house,I wondered why you guys didn't resolve this issue

How is the Gospel true?
mormons have the truth
jw have the truth
who should we trust?
the lie that jesus came to joseph smith still stands
so how is it the truth or you left the past?
who told you people that satan and jesus are brothers?
from which bible?

SniperInADiaper: I dont recommend Wikipedia

why? wikipedia have citations

docadams: on a general note, they are the only christian group that cannot complete a sentence without opening the bible, the young and the old inclusive. What is preached in Lagos is same in Cairo, Maputo, Auckland, Hong Kong, Moscow, Oslo, New York, Brasilia etc. To me, that speaks volume.

Dude you are one of them stop lying. if they are the only ones and you trust them this much why are you not one of them? you even know how they preach the same thing from point a to z.

you are saying they are the only ones who preach the truth yet you are not one.

a true witness who go to preach are people i know that smoke weed and fornicate in bennin.

please you people are know to be very pretentious so am not surprise. if you want to learn start from wikipedia

truthislight: I thought i have done this befor ?

Did you not read the revelation 21:2-4 ?



who had did the bible said abandoned Adam in the Garden of Eden ?

The same person is coming to be with man after christ have done his work.

See:

"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:2-4).

^

God will be with man, the bible said.

Who is coming with great cloud? God was with the apostles

docadams: Please, from what pedestal did you arrive at such conclusion that all the claims are accurate? I am not a JW nor do I consider myself knowledgeable enough to defend them but, on a general note, they are the only christian group that cannot complete a sentence without opening the bible, the young and the old inclusive. What is preached in Lagos is same in Cairo, Maputo, Auckland, Hong Kong, Moscow, Oslo, New York, Brasilia etc. To me, that speaks volume.

You don't have to lie that you are not one of them and talk about them like this
I want to ask you since you trust them so much why are you not one of them?

All I said is accurate if you can research their preaching work you can also research their history.

they use magazines Mormons use book of Mormon what is a lie there? Don't they use magazines?

And they dont know the bible they only know what governing body tells them.

Logicboy03: Thanks.....wow....the guy sold the lie to me!

if you can search it... Rutherford said Jews are not longer important to God.. rutherford is the successor to pastor russell the founder of zion watch tower know as watchtower today.

loveroftruth: I dont know if you are a 'christian' as described in the bible.

But see the instruction in the bible for christian and then, judge for yourself if you are one.


"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company with any man that is called a brother that is a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such one not even to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." (1 Corinthians 5:9-13)

^

i dont think you keep that ^ instruction.

I dont think you are qualify to be called a 'christian' then.

if i leave the congregation because they are protective ped-ophiles am i the one doing the fornication? why will they hate me for that and ask all my friends and family not to talk to me?

bernimoor thinks its English class SMH

Logicboy03: I didnt know about that. Did JW really hate Jews?

research The letter or copies of it can be obtained in Holocaust museum archives or online

That watchtower sent to Hitler in 1933. There are some publications about Jews.

Aside that the hate for their fellow members that left the faith. The call them mentally diseased

Logicboy03: I didnt know about that. Did JW really hate Jews?

yeah they do

^^^ Mormons hates blacks in the past JWs hate Jews in the past. The similarities are getting stronger and stronger

Jesus is God ooooo

docadams: JW will hardly respond to this post.
@OP. I think you need to do proper research to determine the veracity of claims 2, 3, 5, and your submission after 6. And a proper research implies getting very close to and living with them long enough to be able present an informed opinion that can withstand thorough scrutiny.

all the claims are accurate. they have been told to research other church or religion and badmouth them but they said they should not research their own church. they have been told not to come to sites like this

true2god: When u were 'Barrister' i have knwn u, so u need to change to Bernimoore in order to start afresh in ur blind argument asking me to 'scan', 'show' proof even if all the evidence is before u. I dnt tink its wise using my limited MB on someone who's not willing to learn.

Just as typical of wen u were Barrister u r asking me to 'show me the proof of apology'. I wont cos it wont make sense to u and u will use it as a basis for further blind argument which im not ready for.

Haha he is a JW and a barister how will they let him. We all know lawyers are liars

ighoosagie: I don't believe in JW,
I don't in mormon,
I don't believe in catholic,
I don't believe in Anglican,
I don't believe in my Pentecostal,
I don't believe in pastors.
I believe in d holy bible,
I believe in Heaven,
I believe in Jesus,
I believe in God

Good guyman if you are JW any lie they tell you you must believe else they will shun you your wife will divorce you family will stop talking to you

SniperInADiaper: All bad decisions begin with Google

If you want to know the truth about Mormons and the LDS church then you should go to a church approved website.

The website won't talk about them in a informative way. They will hide all the propaganda etc

SniperInADiaper: So, when can I come to your house and teach you about the Book of Mormon

i am learning

SniperInADiaper: Of course.. Why should I be angry that you dont believe the same as me.. I might not agree with your beliefs but Im grown enough to respect them and not think you are a crazy person for believing different.

this is how religion should be

truthislight: Lol.

I quoted a BIBLE portion back up what i said, but you just said whatever you want without a quote of scriptures.

See again:

"And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." (Colossians 1:18).

^^^

Now, dont just talk without scriptures please.

jesus is the first that Yahweh personally resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven and the last to be so resurrected personally by Yahweh, every other resurrection will be done by Jesus christ.

See my scriptural backing up there please, dont just input your motives all the time without scriptural up in the bible.

hey the people that brainwash you. the discreet slave have they return your brain? see how you they show mumuism displaying verses that dont correspond to prove first and last.

olivatwist.

SniperInADiaper: And that is exactly the problem... People are given misinformation.

another reason mormons may be better that jw. jw will kill you for this but she us calm and taking it like a grain of salt

SniperInADiaper: Serious

ok i have never met one in nigeria by the way where are you from

SniperInADiaper: I am Mormon

hahaha

since they both say jesus appear to them who should we trust? or the jesus them see the give them olivatwist?

Who do you consider true religion between JEHOVAH'S WITNESS AND MORMONS?

but claim Jesus appeared to them and tell them all other religions are false and only their on teaches the truth. so who will you believe?
let us look at some similarities

1. They both preach door to door worldwide and think they are preaching the "true" gospel.

2. They both deny the existence of hell.

3. They both preach a different Jesus from historic Christianity, with the JWs teaching Jesus is Michael the Archangel or a little "a" god, and the Mormons teaching that he is the brother of Lucifer and just one of many gods.

4. They both deny the Trinity.

5. They both use extra biblical writings, the JWs following the Watchtower and the Mormons following the book of Mormon.

6. They both teach that their members need to be in their organization in order to be saved and that only their organization is teaching the "truth".


Borrowed symbols and terminology from the Freemasons, such as the all Seeing Eye and the pyramid.


After Joseph Smith died the church split over who should be the successor. The Watchtower Society split several times with there now being numerous religions that stem from Russell, such as Russellites, Bible Students and Jehovah’s Witnesses

Both believe or used to believe that God is on a planet (Russell and Rutherford both taught we would be resurrected to the Pleiades Constellation) and Mormons believed that God lives on a planet near the star Kolob
Salvation is the result of works as well as faith

The cross is not a valid Christian symbol claiming that it is a late invention of corrupt Christianity


which one is the truth? is it MORMONS? OR IS IT JWs OR they are both FAKE?

truthislight: ^^^

Please, is your Jesus satan ?

Please answer.

It seems that is what your God is, not the son of God we know.

this mumu boy is here. has the watch tower finished washing your brain?

deSika: would you do me a favour. Would you show me where Jesus was given ability to create.

When God says let us make man. He was definitely talking to persons who already had the ability to create.

My point is simple. Any person that has the ability to create life is a God. Only a God can create

so when God was talking he was not talking to angels, as angels dont have ability to create,

do you agree with me that its only a God that has the exclusive ability to create life

Godhead means the divine essence of God. It means deity.

Read this frosbel and ijawkid get owned

https://www.nairaland.com/1323390/jesus-created-people-misunderstand-bible#16231506

truthislight: The earth a person ?

All the persons that God created are sons of God.

1. Adam
2. Angels
3. Jesus



The angels that came to earth to see Abraham, Jacob, and lot did not pass through the womb or a woman but rather, they materialised and put on mans body and as such remained and keep their nature as angels even though they have put on material body.

Same thing with the angels of Noah's day that did put on material body and married women, they were still angels.

But was that ^ the same with Jesus ? No.

Jesus came as a man to pay the ransom for a man(Adam).

He passed through a woman(mortal) to come to earth.

If he had done as the other angels did, then your case would have held, since the other angels that had came befor were still considered to be "spirit" persons.

That ^ is the way in which the bible considers "spirit persons"(eg angels) that puts on body.

What that comes out from a woman is man. QED.

This is Not greek mythology.
Peace

Shutup call Jesus angel make you body fresh and stop doing olivatwist. Desika this question has been asked who is Jesus

Angel
Man and a god
This guymen dodge it every moment.

truthislight: Infant !

Wasting my time with infants it seems.

when your governing body return your brain. that is when you shouls open your mouth.

true2god: 'yes an arch angel (still an angel)Jesus is micheal the archangel....' Your 2nd response. Guy if u are a lawyer both u and ur client would hav been in jail for dis obvios contradictions. U need to be ashame here. Be a man pls and stop developing the tendencies of contradicting ursef as bein tot by the watchtower.

contradict him self like the new world translation yet he denies he is not JW but he is a supporter. olivatwist

true2god: 'Jesus is an angel? I am not aware of the discussion that ensued......' Your 1st response to the false teaching by the JW, perharps wen u hav not gone thru Ijawkid's post.which shows that the teaching was strange to u and u knw norring about it.

he was actually irritated when benalvino refuse to answer him in a former thread i like how he keeps telling him to read from the beginning of 2000 post just to know where he stands that he[benalvino stands in his beliefs] will not explain his self again. that got him so mad he started talking out from his arss.