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givedemwotowoto:
He has addressed the issue, he can’t continue to give energy and pay attention to people who haven’t gotten up to 50,000 votes in any election, and want to latch on him to raise their profile.

BREAKING!!! PETER OBI CLEAR THE AIR ON THE DOCTORS' STRIKE WHILE IN OFFICE. This explanation settles everything once and shut the mouth of Jagabandits permanently. pic.twitter.com/b0g6OcVNDe

— BUCOS (@TENIBEGILOJU202) September 9, 2025

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Nigerians needed his answers within an environment where he could be easily countered if he lied. He was not challenged on social media. He should have responded there and there. Who does he want to be deceiving?

givedemwotowoto:
We all know what happened with the strike so we know Sowore is trying to score a cheap political point.

This is What Happened

Peter Obi wanted to reform Anambra’s health sector, and he was met with fierce resistance from those who benefited from the old system. But he refused to cower to intimidation or cave in to their demands.

He pushed ahead with the reforms and built partnerships with churches and voluntary agencies to strengthen healthcare delivery across the state.

What happened afterwards?

Anambra emerged as the best performing state in the South East in immunisation/polio eradication, earning a $1 million award from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The state also remained polio-free for 5 years.

Peter Obi then added additional govt funding and channelled the award money into building 10 maternal and child healthcare centers, mostly in Anambra villages.

Image laundering at its best. You mean Peter Obi was dumb, and so he couldn't defend himself?

MaxInDHouse:
Everything should be well documented! 1Corinthans 14:40

The Bible never says so!

The Bible leaves each person to his own conscience in the case of wilful sinners. Hebrews 10:26-29

But unlike Cain we are our brother's keepers so we must call for help if he is spiritually sick!🙂

And the help you can render is to scatter his life?

The Bible says we should restore them in love, and that those who think they stand should take heed less they also fall. That's for those who sinned.

achorladey:
They created a policy called DISASSOCIATION which states clearly members are free to leave if they want by writing a letter to that effect or going to the principal members of the congregation that they are no longer interested

They also have another policy on DISFELLOWSHIPPING members who goes against their rules and regulations.

Look at the way they treat both. If a AJAO is caught for example in fornication, he gets kicked out on count of practising immortality.

If ALAO decides to leave their denomination and write a letter to that effect.

Members are meant to treat both AJAO and ALAO in the same manner meaning members will see ALAO as someone as equally immoral as AJAO

Whereas ALAO cannot simply go along with what he has seen has no place in the scripture and decides to leave. You see how they create unnecessary divisions with their Pharisees mindset

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Exactly, those kicking others out also have their own secret sins.

Lol. Why should one write letter before leaving a group in the first place?

What will.they do to fornicators who never got caught?

Both measures are absolutely unbiblical.

achorladey:
Just ask that them, where in context your words stated clearly on the platform that a dead person must have faith?

See them running here and there to cover their intent to lie and manipulate

Exactly. They started asking thoughtless questions.

achorladey:
Even Jehovah's Witnesses go tell you those they call FALSE CHRISTIANS are better than them and the one called having a moniker called Max several times on this platform states..


Jehovah's Witnesses are like those he calls false Christians because they sin and are under the influence of devil

Hmm.

They don't take holiness seriously. They only value pretentious living.

achorladey:
Na Jehovah’s Witnesses Jesus go first line up in their propaganda mixed with delusion doctrines

😂 😂 😂

achorladey:
You see the moment you put him in his place he started to dance here and there looking for every means to say what he already stated that others did and was wrong should be seen as right in his own case.

Hmm. I see.

gratiaeo:
During Buhari it was padded budget, now under Tinubu it's fake agencies all this point to one thing and nothing but deep seated corruption

You guys won't even ask "Since when have these fake agencies been operating?" before you start talking anyhow.

MaxInDHouse:
If it doesn't involve all members being hostile to an apostate then why did the elders say:
Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17 Apostle Paul

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11 Apostle John
Both of them promotes hostility against apostates!🤔

Talking about false teachers who teach false doctrines. Not members who hold opposing views. Members with opposing views are addressed differently in Scripture.

What you should ask is how Christ's first century disciples applied this instruction?
Maintain your conduct fine among the nations, so that when they accuse you of being wrongdoers, they may be eyewitnesses of your fine works and, as a result, glorify God in the day of his inspection. 1Peter 2:12
Maintain a good conscience, so that in whatever way you are spoken against, those who speak against you may be put to shame because of your good conduct as followers of Christ. 1Peter 3:16
So what are sincere observers saying in this regard about Jehovah's Witnesses?

Did Jesus send away Thomas for disbelieving? Did Jesus send away Peter for holding contrary opinions? Except for members who sin, there's nowhere in Scripture where it's said that members should be sidelined for holding opposing views. You do yours to the extent that you break homes and destroy families.

Millions are seeing the light despite the fact that we don't participate in politics just as our Master Lord and King avoid rulership with the world! John 6:15🙂

No, you're being ruled by darkness. Millions are seeing no light except the deceived. Jesus sent us to shine the light into EVERY dark corners of the world. He didn't ask us to watch from a distance or run away from the wolves. Infact, He said "I send you as sheep AMONG WOLVES."

MaxInDHouse:
Question:
According to Jesus if a disciple refuse to accept the discipline of the body of elders what should all members do to him?
Answer:
"If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector" Matthew 18:17
Jews are HOSTILE to tax collectors so what is your point?🙂

Lies. That matter was only related to dispute resolution between two people.

Jesus came to prepare the faithfuls for God's Kingdom {Matthew 6:10} that is why we must be ready to endure whatever Satan and his human agents are doing now! Matthew 24:13

But the same Jesus told us that we are the lights of the world. How can we genuinely be lights if we cannot go where darkness is and shine there?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you can't twist what Jesus himself said his teachings will scatter a family of people who aren't faithful if one or two of them made the truth their own. Simple!🙂
So swallow your statement because Jesus said his teachings will cause division in families! Matthew 10:34-36

Exactly what I said. If one of them makes the truth their own, the family becomes hostile to the one who made the truth his own.

But you guys do the opposite! You are the ones who become hostile instead. That's what I condemn!

You don't want to read God's word just because you want to argue shey, were the answer to your question is found in the Bible book of 1John 5:19

We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one

Jesus, his first century disciples or his modern day disciples (JWs) never disputed the fact that God is the Creator but the whole world is controlled by Satan.🙂

God is the Creator of the world, He now told you that you should leave the world in Satan's control? Why then did Jesus come into the world?

MaxInDHouse:
So who said:
For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" Matthew 10:35🙂

That's unrelated. That's simply because your family could reject you for becoming a disciple of Jesus. Not you rejecting them for not being one.

Who is the God of this world according to {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} and according to Jesus who is the ruler (Prince) controlling this world? John 14:30
Who offered Jesus all the governments of this world? Luke 4:5-7🙂

Who is the Creator of this world?

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmm
Surely you don't know the real Jesus in the Bible, the Jesus your pastors talked to you about is their own fabrication.

This is what the real Jesus said about his teachings when it enters a family:

Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Matthew 10:34-36

So did Jesus' teaching scatter families or not?

It's Satan's game so nobody can play and win that's why Jesus say we should rely on God's Kingdom!🙂

No. The real Jesus in the Bible does not scatter homes.

And no, leadership is not Satan's games. God Himself is a leader. God's Children can go anywhere and make a difference.

MaxInDHouse:
I said you don't know what it means to be a Christian. Ọmọ it doesn't mean that you should be nice unnecessarily to people who don't value faith o!
Jesus and his apostles commanded us to treat apostates the way we are doing! Matthew 18:15-17; Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11🙂


Ask politicians and they will tell you it's a dirty game so true disciples of Christ don't engage in such things. 🙂


You have never seen because you are not close to us nah.

See my brothers imprisoned for their faith!🙂

Go and study the procedures outlined in Scripture. You were never asked to scatter families with it.

Also, If politics is dirty, why can't you go there and be the trail blazer?

MaxInDHouse:
You make it seem as if you want to joke about this matter but i will set matters straight!🙂

OK let me pick just two out of what Jesus and his Apostles taught Jehovah's Witnesses and let's see if it also works among those religions claiming Christians:

Jesus said Jehovah's Witnesses must have love among ourselves just as he loves us {John 13:34-35} that means there is no political ruler who can order us to lift up weapons against our fellow believers because we love our fellow believers in all the countries of the world just as Jesus was ready to die for his disciples.
This is the reason why you can never see a member of Jehovah's Witnesses either in politics or military services.

But can you say the same for these other religions?
Of course they will pick up weapons in the name of war to kill their fellow believers in other places something real disciples of Christ will rather lay down our lives instead of raising weapons against our brothers!

The Apostles taught us to always obey the authorities because God permitted them to be in power until his kingdom comes {Romans 13:1-4 compare to Matthew 22:21} but can you say the same about those religions claiming Christians?
Of course their leaders teaches them to protest against the authorities.

So my guy in true Christianity our doctrine is the same globally it's our attitude due to economic conditions that differs.🙂

If you love yourselves you would not have to tell us. The whole world would know. The way you even treat so called apostates show you don't have love. You don't even know God.

Being in Politics does not mean you live or hate. Many in politics still have love.

I have NEVER SEEN A SO CALLED JEHOVAH WITNESS WHO LAYS DOWN HIS LIFE FOR THE GOSPEL. Fake love.

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is a big lie!😟

All the churches in the first century have the same doctrine {John 17:22} and they judge matters the same way {1Corinthans 1:10} their problem back then was due to geographic locations.

For instance there are Jehovah's Witnesses in all the countries of the world today and we all believe and teach the same thing because it's what the group representing the apostles in our headquarters teaches us that we spread just as it was in the first century! Act 2:42

But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of Jehovah's Witnesses in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

That is what Jesus said because in some places our brothers are not actively participating in preaching and teaching due to their attitude towards material possessions but if you should approach any Jehovah's Witness in any country it's the same beliefs we have but the zeal to go out and preach what they know is not burning {Revelation 3:16} yet that is the spirit Jesus expected of all his disciples. John 2:17 compare to Psalms 69:9

So don't be deceived different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are not Christians!🙂

You are a very ignorant dude.

Why did the apostles write letters? To address issues and matters arising as a result of doctrinal disagreements and related matters.

I would put this your warped thinking in the right perspective:


But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of Jehovah's Witnesses in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of Winners' Chapel members in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine


But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of RCCG members in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of Deeper Life members in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of Christ Embassy members in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

But due to economic conditions in different countries attitude of CAC Members in certain areas affects their thinking not doctrine

Shall I continue?

What you call Jehovah Witness religion is just like another denomination of Christianity. Calling it a new religion does not make any changes.

MaxInDHouse:
So are these "BELIEVERS" organized and united in faith {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10} or they are scattered in different religions contradicting one another in doctrines? Luke 11:23

Let's use Jesus' and his disciple's words to IDENTIFY them and not what we feel! Matthew 15:7-9🙂

Each believer who has processed Jesus is a citizen of heavenly nation founded by God irrespective of region, time and space. Believers past, present and future are all members of God's nation.

The Churches in Revelation to whom Jesus sent letters all had divergent doctrines but Jesus still called them His Church and addressed them as His Church.

Doctrinal differences has existed in the Church since the time of Jesus Himself. Thomas didn't believe He died and rose until He saw the risen Jesus. Paul wrote letters to address divergent doctrines. John wrote letters to address the same. Peter too wrote letters to condemn some that even became arrogant against the Church. Doctrinal differences does not make anyone less a member of God's Kingdom!

MaxInDHouse:
Please leave my group and focus on what Peter said:

Was Peter addressing one person or an organized group?

Was he referring to individuals found in different religions claiming Christians or a specific group?

He was talking to all believers in Christ Jesus collectively as nation. Citizens of the heavenly Kingdom. A chosen generation - birthed by the Word of God Himself. A royal priesthood. Washed in His Blood.

Before you claim that for your organization, the Church Peter was addressing existed before your organization and would continue to exist after it.

MaxInDHouse:
Note what Peter said:
Chosen generation.
Royal priesthood.
Holy nation.
Special people.

Who formed this nation?

Are they individuals found in different religions claiming Christians?
Or
An organized group unitedly worshiping the same way?🤔

That scriptures says to me, "You are a holy nation."
Not, "You will be a holy nation"

It was said long before your organization was created. The holy nation has existed before your organization and will continue to exist after it.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not asking for the opposite of what Jesus said you can't know the opposite if you don't know the real meaning of a word!
So i asked you again:
What nation did Jesus had in mind? Matthew 21:43🙂

1Peter 2:9
"But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;"

MaxInDHouse:
Micah isn't talking about a literal nation but spiritual. Jesus interpreted what Micah wrote when he told the Jews:

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Matthew 21:43

The Jews strongly believe they are the nation calling the true God but here Jesus said God has given His Kingdom to a nation bringing forth the fruit of faith. Can you tell me what nation Jesus is talking about?🤔



New Testament Believers!🙂

So according to the new testament we must assemble with people who believe the same thing not when you gather with people that doesn't even know you in person.

You people deceives yourselves a lot because if we are to agree with what you just said that means new testament believers could be found in virtually all religions claiming Christians.

Yet you will not worship with Cele, Cherubim or any other white garment churches but they are also claiming they are new testament believers o!🥱

Yes. A spiritual nation is not a kingdom hall where different unrefined and ignorant folks worship together.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible each individual is defined by his or her religion {Micah 4:5} otherwise believing in Jesus shouldn't be the only means of salvation! John 3:16

It's like someone claiming Muslim saying everyone who calls on the name of Allah is his fellow worshiper knowing fully well that there are groups claiming Muslims yet their mode of worship is to kill people of other religions!

Micah 4:5 is a nation's resolve voiced by Micah. He tells the nation what they most do. That does not give the nation an identity with God. New Testament believers will stand alone before God as disciples of Christ, not as members of a congregation.

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmm, and i thought you are different.🤔
OK you worship at another church called by the same group name "HARVESTERS CHURCH" but not Mr Bolaji Idowu's own?
If so do you view Mr Bolaji Idowu and Mr William Kumuyi as your fellow worshipers?🙂

Exactly. Not Bolaji's own. I saw Bolaji's own is international Christian centre. That's not where I attend.

Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus in truth is my fellow worshipper. They're not defined by denomination, group or assembly.

MaxInDHouse:
Well he founded that Harvesters Church where you are worshiping.
Now imagine if someone should ask a disciple of Christ in the first century what he knows about Jesus or any of the apostles and he answered:
"I don't know"
How will you view such an individual?

Jesus said:


“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. ‭Matthew 7:15 NIV‬

Do you think it makes sense gathering with people you don't even know? Psalms 1:1 🤔

He is not the founder where I worship.

MaxInDHouse:
So now you want to start lying, shey?
So you don't even know that churches of Christendom often register names?
Please take good care of yourself!🙂

I don't know Bolaji Ìdòwú. Simple!

MaxInDHouse:
Bolaji is founder Harvesters Church as he wants to harvest (make members) where he did not sow (Gbagada) so if you are a member of that church and you don't care about how the founder started it says a lot about the type of person you are! Matthew 7:16-18


I told you it's not by their character nah!🤔
Jesus' disciples earned that group name "CHRISTIANS" collectively because of their ACTIVITIES which are PREACHING and TEACHING in their neighborhood.

CHARACTER is Peter the anxious {Matthew 16:19-21} Judas the greedy one {Matthew 26:14-16} Thomas the one who doubts. John 20:25

But what makes people IDENTIFY them as Christ's disciples is the ACTIVITY that they all engage in collectively which is the preaching and teaching in their neighborhood!

There are many Churches by that name.

People identifying you as Christ's disciples is not the same thing as God identifying you as one. The Lord knows them that are His.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't have to know him in person just as i don't know Jesus facially but it is through the fruit of his teachings that i began to love him {Matthew 7:15-20} so it's what Bolaji Idowu teaches that will determine your beliefs definitely your faith has everything to do with Bolaji Idowu!🙂

Please don't say what you don't know because in the Bible the disciples of Jesus has different characters but it is their activities as a group that makes people identify them. Act 4:13
It's their activities that made the people living in an ancient city called Antioch to mock them with that group name "CHRISTIANS" as they see them doing the preaching and teaching work Jesus mandated for his disciples exactly as he instructed! Act 11:26

I don't know Bolaji Ìdòwú or whatever he teaches. His teachings cannot determine anything about me. I am of Christ and not of any man.

If characters are what makes Christ disciples known, why did Paul say "The Lord knows then that are His..." That is because people can pretend and behave themselves in public without having any genuine relationship with God.

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MaxInDHouse:
I didn't just say it but i proved it sighting features that only Jesus' first century disciples have but it's OK my guy don't let me spoil your mood today continue with Bolaji Idowu if that is what you choose i only wanted you to know that i have found the only true religion because i wasn't born among them i humble myself to welcome them.

See what people from different schools of thought have said about this religion:





















So feel free to practice whatever religion you want just know that Jehovah's Witnesses are no part of your fellow worshipers.

Thanks!🙂

I don't have anything to do with Bolaji Ìdòwú. I don't even know him.

You didn't prove anything about your organization. Jesus' followers are not known by mere activities.

MaxInDHouse:
For your information Jesus used that man to accomplish what he foretold as an event that will happen in our time:

“When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. Matthew 25:31-32

How do you feel knowing that you claim Christian yet those who are supposed to be your fellow worshipers view you as fake?
Well the reason is obvious all of you are choosing what you want instead of the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are actively preaching and teaching in all the nations without expecting material possessions Jesus as Jesus commanded his disciples! Matthew 6:19-21
Only Jehovah's Witnesses believe the same thing globally just as Jesus taught his disciples to do. John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10
Only Jehovah's Witnesses feel spiritually attached to their fellow believers throughout the world just as Jesus commanded his disciples. John 13:34-35
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are no part of the world's political struggles {John 17:14} that's leading people into killing people. Revelation 6:3-4
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are known by their beliefs as a unique group unified in faith. 2Corinthians 5:7
Only Jehovah's Witnesses don't take part in pagan traditions that's fabricated but stick only to what we found in the Bible. John 17:17
Do you think it's that man that made all these things possible or it's just coincidental?
That is food for thought because it couldn't have been a mortal man like Charles Taxes Russell who arranged all that but the mighty spirit king who promised to separate his sheep from goats in our time.

Do you care to know why we bear a separate group name to distinguish us out of all religions claiming Christians?

Well that's the fulfillment of what the true God promised in the Bible:

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I will destine you for the sword, and all of you will fall in the slaughter; for I called but you did not answer, I spoke but you did not listen. You did evil in my sight and chose what displeases me.” Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: “My servants will eat, but you will go hungry; my servants will drink, but you will go thirsty; my servants will rejoice, but you will be put to shame. My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit. You will leave your name for my chosen ones to use in their curses; the Sovereign Lord will put you to death, but to his servants he will give another name. Isaiah 65:12-15 NIV‬

The name "CHRISTIANS" our brothers borrowed in the first century but you people have defamed it with your interfaith so that interested individuals can't know the true Christians that is why the true God gave us another group name to distinguish us from among all those claiming Christians:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Go and do your work my guy and do have a good day!🙂

No. Jesus used the founder of Seventh day Adventist and Mormons too? Jesus never used anybody to that changes revelations every year. There's no proof anywhere that Jesus used that man. The only thing you've been talking is your togetherness and evangelism which all church denominations have. If churches don't evangelise, your founder would never have heard of Jesus. They're making a law to ban bus preaching in Nigeria, Nigerian churches have reacted in defiance because we all preach and evangelise. If we're talking about character and faith, the seventh day adventists are far better than so called witnesses.

The fact still.remaoms that your founder also broke out from a church. Saying yours is the only true religion does not make it so.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus did the same, today you claim to be his follower he never welcome any other teaching and also strictly warned his disciples to follow his footstep that means you need to know those who are genuine not just following anybody!🙂

The fact still.remaoms that your founder also broke out from a church. Saying yours is the only true religion does not make it so.

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MaxInDHouse:
That is the difference between true and false religion.
Jesus broke away from Judaism and told his disciples never to have anything to do with the teachings of Judaists {Matthew 16:6, 12} because light and darkness has nothing in common. 1Peter 2:9

So today Jehovah's Witnesses sees our organization as the only true religion while all others are false. That's the spirit Jesus gave his disciples not that which accomodates contradictions.

Do you see the difference now?

Please between Deeperlife and Harvesters which religion is true and which is false?

I am telling you boldly and can give you evidence that there is no other religion that's worshiping our God except those in our midst! John 14:6

Anybody can break away to form his own as the only true religion while pointing others as false. Seventh day adventists, Mormon, etc also come to mind.