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DaddyKross:
Lol. Okay bro

Why are you so hateful of lgbt+ people. Or do you only hate gays and lesbians? Do you just hate all that is different from what is normal to you?

DaddyKross:
Following this logic of yours




No.

Then nobody gets hurt from having their anus being penetrated.

DaddyKross:
Nobody gets hurt from being drilled in the ass ?

Nobody get hurt from having their vagina penetrated?

I understand why some people hate homosexuals (it's stupid but I know why)
But I don't know why they hate the others though,
like, so yeah you dont like boys being in a relationship with boys, and girls being in a relationship with girls, but you have a problem with someone not having sex? Asexuals are hated for no reason and it beats me.

[quote author= post=66148444]I thought there are some that 'learnt' gayism and lesbanism when they were in an all girls OR all boys school or even higher institutions.
I dunno which is correct now, yours or mine![/quote]It is not learning it is realization or just questioning. There are people who come out of those schools straight and people who come out of those institutions realizing that they might be homosexual or asexual or the like.

Mandrake007:
you forgot

B - Beastility,sexually attracted to animals

P - Pedophilia,sexually attracted to minors

N - Necrophilia,sexually attracted to corpse


P.S I don't judge anyone but as well reasoning adults we should be able to call normal from odd,just the way a random man in the 1950's wouldn't be able to phatom 'same sex' being legal someday,its same way we find these aforementioned acts unimaginable till they become normalized and shoved down our throats sometime in the future..

Beastiality, Pedophilia, and Necrophilia are not recognized in the lgbt+ community because
Necrophilia- spreads diseases and makes it easier to contract terminal illnesses
Pedophilia - can take away the victims innocence and will leave them scarred for life
Beastiality - can catch illnesses from animal and is recognized as animal abuse

All of those practices are hurting people/animals or themselves but nobody is getting hurt from being lgbtqiiaa

[quote author= post=66148221]Saying atleast for those ones, they did not have a choice with the way their bodies are.[/quote]None of them have a choice. If somebody is homosexual they are born homosexual, just like if somebody is heterosexual they are born heterosexual.

[quote author= post=66147404]Those with both male and female body parts didn't make themselves so I believe?![/quote]I don't understand what you are trying to say

STrundah:
There's no such thing as true feminism. Feminism is NOT about equality. It's basically about misandry, double standards, and domination. They want to make it the total inverse of what they accuse the FICTIONAL, non-existent evil misogynistic patriarchy of doing to them.

True gender egilitarianism needs no gender-specific name.

Have you ever noticed how these useless bitches shrug in dismissal with their stupid, retarrded line of "those one are not real feminists" when the misandry and double-standards of their worthless sisters are pointed out to them?

Have you ever seen a feminist condemning a MISANDRIST with as much hatred and bitterness they use when addressing a misogynist?

There's no equality. It's a one-sided shiit, bro. To hell with feminism.

fem·i·nism
[ˈfeməˌnizəm]

NOUN
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

L - lesbian- a woman sexually and romantically attracted to women

G- gay- a man who is sexually and romantically attracted to men

B- bisexual- a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to both men and women

T- transgender- a person who was born as one gender physically, but has a chemical inbalance of testosterone and estrogen

Q- queer - anyone who is lgbtqia+

Q (2) - questioning- somebody who is not sure about their sexuality

I- intersex- someone who is born with characteristics of both genders (i.e testosterone and estrogen, joystick and vagina, ovaries and sperm etc.)

I (2) - intergender- someone who doesn't choose to aesthetically identify with either gender.

A- asexual- someone who does not have sexual attraction towards either nor any genders; keep in mind that asexuals still have romantic attraction/aesthetic attraction which means they are attracted to someone's personality and the way they're face may look but not in a sexual way.

A (2) - allies- an ally is somebody who is not lgbtq+ (straight/heterosexual) but supports and advocates for their rights.

TonyeBarcanista:
I'm a practicing Christian but I've never quoted the Bible nor any religious text... I don't know why you are bringing the Bible into this.

Anyway, nature and life made it so...

If you attend functions and events, you would have come across "Mr and Mrs" and not "Mrs and Mr"

That's to show you that in order of hierarchy/protocol, the husband COMES before the wife!!!


Religion doesn't make it so, nature did...

You have not told me why, you are obviously avoiding the question

TonyeBarcanista:
Because he is the FATHER and it is his job to lead the family...

Same way a Vice Chancellor is of higher authority than every other lecturer in a university

Why is it his job to lead the family?

TonyeBarcanista:
My friend, this has nothing to do with doctrine, Nature, God, Gods, Deities etc made it so and nothing anyone can do to change it.

Like I said earlier, who do other students submit to the authority of the class captain? is he more student than them? Does he pay higher school fees?

There is hierarchy in every relationship, society, partnership etc... In every hierarchy, there is a leader sitting at the top! Even if two people come together to float a business by bringing equal resources, one of them will still be the CEO/President while the other will take Deputy Position or whatever... It doesn't make the CEO better than the other..


Same in marriage, the wife and kids are under the authority of the husband/father...

There is nothing anybody can do about it

You people blindly follow religion and it really bothers me that someone will use an overly edited book (e.g Bible) to justify all things in life. I'm sorry but religion is just not good enough to justify something like this. And you also haven't even given me a good reason as to why the husband is the head. Please, explain.

TonyeBarcanista:
Thank You...

The wife isn't an inferior or lesser being to the husband, neither the children to the father, but only in authority is the father above all.

Why should the father be above all?

TonyeBarcanista:
You are contradicting yourself Ma...

A child does not submit to his father's authority because he was part of the process that birth him, he submits because HE IS HIS FATHER! That doesn't mean the child is of less important than the father in the family.. All are equally important but one has authority over all.

Same way the wife and husband can be said to be of equal status as humans and adults but the equality has nothing to do with authority and leadership. The husband has authority over the wife and she must submit to him! It is a MUST and not matter of negotiation. In fact, NO family will enjoy peace and tranquility where the man's authority is not recognised by the wife.

Submission is not same as slavery, that Buhari is the President and has authority over us doesn't mean we are slaves to him. In fact, we can challenge and disagree with him but it still doesn't take away his authority... Similarly, other management taffs can disagree with the CEO on issues relating to do with policy during meetings and deliberation but it still doesn't mean they aren't under his leadership and authority... Definitely, it still doesn't mean that the bulk won't stop at his table.

Same way the wife isn't slave to her husband, she has right to disagree on issues but the husband is still the boss, the oga PATAPATA for life.

When a doctrine is fed to you for a long time you will think it is the only way to live life. I see that some people may submit for their own personal reasons but I feel as if it shouldn't be something you have to do. A woman in one place can choose this and another can choose something else for their life. To each his own. But no one should have to follow that way of life.
I apologize if my message was unclear or what I was trying to say wasn't conveyed properly.

donstan18:
Since you know none should submit to each other, why then did you create the thread?

I was just asking for opinions and I saw your opinion was different from my own so I wanted to further discuss it.

TonyeBarcanista:
Why should every citizen submit to the President when all are equal in the eyes of the law and constitution?

Why should all Senators submit to the Senate President when all were elected Senators?

Why should everyone else submit to the authority of the Class Captain when they are all classmates?

Why should every worker submit to the CEO when they are all employees/workers?

Why should every priest submit to the Pope when they are all Catholic priests?

Same reason a WIFE/WIVES and Children must submit to the authority of the husband in the family though all are members of the family.

A child must submit to his father because his father is what helped bring him into the world. The senators submit to the senate presidents because the senate president is appointed and has the ability to do more things, but that doesn't take away power from the senators. The people submit to the president but if the president does something wrong they will vote him out.
All of these people submit to the other because they still have their own balance of power and benefits/reasons for it.
Now, riddle me this, what benefit does a woman get for submitting to her husband? Will the husband still respect her as a person even though she's "below" him?
As far as I'm concerned a man and woman should be deemed equal and none submitting to the other. For ever and always, amen.

TonyeBarcanista:
100% if she wants a happy ever after marriage...


Personally, No submission means NO marriage...

Why should a woman have to submit to her husband for a happy marriage. Marriage is an equal pairing between two people and both people agreed to be together for as long as possible. Why would somebody want to live a good majority of their life as an indirect slave to their husband?

Every person has his own discernment and way of thinking based on our individual differences both in terms of religion, moral, culture, social orientation and to an extent sex education in Nigerian schools.

In the absence of a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS, educating children about safe sex is regarded by many as the primary means for prevention – the United Nations and others have described it as “the social vaccine” – but the question of how best to do this has long been debated.

The need for such efforts remains acute but is fraught with difficulty as deep-rooted socio-cultural, religious and moral constraints remain barriers to effective sex education across Africa and beyond.
Over a two-year period, a team of researchers from the University of Cambridge’s Centre for Commonwealth Education, along with others in the UK and three countries in Africa, approached the problem by thinking beyond the classroom and asking a fundamental question: how much do children know already?
“We worked with children at grade 6 in primary school [median age 12] because this is the final year of compulsory education in the countries we were working in, Kenya, Tanzania and South Africa, and also because of a common perception that primary age is too young – that educating this age group is a risk rather than a protective factor,” said Dr Colleen McLaughlin, who leads the ASKAIDS project.

So, Nairalanders, do you think sex education should be taught?

Feel free to elaborate on this but try not to spread hate.

OriakuAmara:
Will pigs fly if you lots start telling men to be submissive to their wives?
Only slaves are submissive without a reason,


Answer me and let's take it off from here

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here but I'll try my best to decode it.

What I have been saying is that when your taught something it is hard to unlearn, is it not so?

OriakuAmara:
Because I am a woman?
The right word to use is because you are a human being,
I am a human being before a woman,

And I don't understand what you mean by "because they are men.
Some of you think that having a penis makes you a superior beings over women because that's what the chauvinistic and misogynistic society taught you all ,

That's why you people see feminists as bitter people because we struck a nerve in you lots.

Feminism is out to free women from the shackles of misogynism.
That's why my thread on that crap called Submission will be hot

I meant unlearn in a positive way, being taught things such as submissiveness and obeying your husbands rule and all of that, it is good that you unlearned it, or maybe you never learned it at all which is also good. Maybe I should have phrased it better.

Chikita66:
Me too.

You should get one of those catholic calendars, they're very useful.

OriakuAmara:
Submission is used by insecured men who are looking for a female slave as wife.
Count me out of that rubbish.
They love to misquote Paul.
Marriage is partnership, mutual respect and love should be there,
I can't bend down and kiss your azz in the name of submission because you have a dik.
It's impossible.

When I open the thread, we will continue from there.

It is obvious that you have been able to unlearn all of the things that you were taught that you should be because your a woman, or maybe you weren't even taught them at all. But just remember that this is not a clause to disrespect men on the basis that they are men.

Prechbills:
bride price is the no. 1 cause of domestic abuse and domestic rape

Rape is mostly about having a disregard and disrespect for that person. A male rapists may not see a woman as a person to be respected.

greiboy:
Amara like shuga are both trying to be feminists, but it takes more than dirty talk and a few knowledge of feminism to advocate on a open forum like nairaland.


I can call them sympathizers of the campaign. Nonetheless, they need to tone the rhetoric and practice what they preach. They need to stop insulting non feminist women and focus on preaching true equality

Feminists is about advocacy, Advocacy involves action.

Talk is cheap.


Ps; I am not a feminist because I don't agree with everything it stands for

It's okay if you're not a feminist as long as you know that you have a valid reason for it.

Prechbills:
women must cook for their husbands. but for the chores house helps should be employed don't hire an outsider cook she can poison the food. even in America 99% of the women are the ones doing the cookings, the guy can cook if he knows how to cook

If you don't mind me asking: Why do you personally thing a woman should cook for her husband?

JONNYSPUTE:
. I agree with you 100%. But as a true feminists, one who really understood what is at stake,why is it that they dont want to change or talk about that aspect the way they are fighting for equal rights? They can as well tell the men,stuff like,look,I can take up my responsibilities while you take urs or simply ,let's share the responsibilities since we are equal. Can someone claim to be a celibate while still sleeping around? If they the Nigerian feminists don't want to change their mentalities in respect of equal responsibilities, then they ve not started.

It is pretty much a problem of "I may be able to say this but I this benefits me so I won't" and that is not real feminism.

Prechbills:
it's good you're ignoring me because if you try to engage me I'm gonna disgrace you brutally in a way that you'll never speak about your non existence feminism ideology again on nairaland. just test my intelligence ,you've been claiming victim feminist ever since, nonsense.

Bride price is one of those cultural practices that don't really benefit anything. It is not everything that our forefathers did that we must bring with us to the 21st century.

Prechbills:
all the so called feminists have ran away from the thread. lmao

you want equal opportunity, equal representation and other shiits yet you guys run away when you hear equal responsibilities because it means equal financial responsibilities..


lazy frustrated dugs claiming feminists.. naijs feminists only exist on nairaland, twitter and instagram.

Like I've been saying this whole time: Nigerian/African women are taught certain things therefore, even though times may change they still keep those same mentalities.

OriakuAmara:
Another thing I am going to write on is this dumb thing called submission.
And why people misuse the word.
It's gonna be fire.
Watch out

Women, specifically in Africa as a whole, are taught to submit from a young age. They must learn to cook, so that their husband can eat, they are taught that their husband is the head of the house and you go with what he says. When times start to change it's difficult to forget what you are taught.

JONNYSPUTE:
. Thank you very much. So who are they deceiving? The men or themselves. No man will take them serious until they themselves proves to the man or men that they are ready to accept feminism with all the does and don'ts that are enshrined in it. You can claim to be a driver when you don't know what gear is.

But see, here is where men come to play a part in this cycle. Women are taught this mentality but what is encouraging it, why can't men just stop giving their time to women who can't support themselves? Some men like it when their wife or girlfriend depends on them because it reassures their power. This is what comes with mentality. Men are taught from a young age that they are supposed to be providers and do things for women.