₦airaland Forum

seppuku:
You know what, I was wrong about you. You are not akin to "cypher". You are worse, an "AGENT" of this system. The same system that we are trying to destroy.

seppuku:
Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is, You have to see if for yourself.

seppuku:
In the world of the matrix, you are a similar to the one known as "cypher' - "disillusioned with the harsh reality of the real world, longing to return to the simulated comforts of the matrix."

I cannot help you anymore.

seppuku:
It's red or blue pill.

I suggest the blue pill. It symbolizes remaining in ignorance and comfort.



Exactly the point.

seppuku:
Your choice.



I am so glad we live in the 21st century where therapy and medication exist to deal with those issues. Advice your comrades to seek it out. The hospitals are now empty eh?



Doesn't take away from the truth of it now does it?

seppuku:
Alternatively, you could just ignore the "migrants" as much as you can just like you do the white people. There's many ways to skin a cat, no?



I am glad at least you admit your people are suffering from Post apartheid traumatic stress disorder



Cannot be understood by a Southerner. It's a West African thing.

seppuku:
and I don't think anyone is asking you to continue to carry them on your backs or leave the door wide open for everyone to come in. Your methods supported by political parties and to an extent you government is what leaves much to be desired.



We are arguing that there is precedence for these violent acts that rears its ugly heads up every few years to conclude that this iteration is not solely about "illegal immigration", but something much more deep rooted in the psyche of your people.



I used the analogy once upon a time that if a Nigerian, a Ghanaian and a South African were left stranded in the desert and the loud mouthed Nigerian insisted he is going North as his next path while the South African pointed South, the Ghanaian left with the choice of whom to follow, would go with the Nigerian.

Decipher that any which way you like.

seppuku:
Is it safe to say you don't really care about anything outside of yourselves?



The contention from other Africans has never been about "illegal immigrants" and if they should be deported or not. I think every right thinking African understands that dilemma, but unfortunately that's not the message we are getting from South Africa so either you are bad communicators and cannot frame your grievances in an articulate enough manner or this is all a disguise for a deeper rooted "feeling" you have for the "other" and Africans in general. You can't go to six different parties and everyone keeps telling you the same thing about how you are dressed and then you come out and say they are all wrong.

Your antecedence regarding how you have handled this matter argues for xenophobia.



I remember telling you it is only a matter of time.



As the popular South African saying goes "Hey, WE don't care". You can groove till you babalas.

seppuku:
Don't change the subject. You people have claimed across numerous forums that you were good with Ghana. They were the model West Africans now small arguement and they are now like their cousins.

Don't worry you will soon start with Kenyans and Burundians very soon.

Shame no dey catch una!

#SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA.

seppuku:
But they were the disciplined and well behaved Africans who you never had a problem with you now they are exactly like us. HAHAHAHAHA!

Why the switch now?

The answer is easy. They have always known who and what you people are.

IronGalaxy:
Ghanaians love attention hey.. they're exactly like their neighbors

seppuku:
Just answer the F**KInG Question!

seppuku:
If you studied law then go back and tell them to withdraw that degree of yours and throw it in the trash. An embarrassment to learned folk by you standing on such an over simplistic view of citizenship in your country.

I am still waiting for an answer on how you acquired your citizenship Jaceblaze?

Were you born to exiles in Mozambic, is that why you dislike foreigners so much?

Kingpele:
Very soon it's will become the most quiet route when all foreigners depart that country filled with lazy youths...

IronGalaxy:
You know him well, lol

morpheus24:
You are shooting blanks because you have nothing left.

Please let us know if you are a citizenship by birth in your country Jace or are you a citizen by descent?

Waiting!

seppuku:
Yes, circular reasoning produces cognitive dissonance.

"South Africa does not do birthright citizenship because we just don't do it.

on this basis, I declare, you are not a citizen by "birth" Jace.

seppuku:
Yes with the key words being "unconditional" versus "specific conditions."

This is why laymen who just read the immigration act and constitution for the first time shouldn't be commenting or making sweeping statements.

We leave that to the lawyers and immigration experts.

seppuku:
Its cognitive dissonance. The technicalities too difficult for you. I understand my Brada. That's why people like Jacinta qualify as your leaders.

"South Africa does not offer unconditional birthright citizenship; citizenship is primarily granted based on parentage (jus sanguinis), not solely by being born in the country.
Current Legal Framework
Under the South African Citizenship Act of 1995, any child born to at least one South African parent automatically receives citizenship at birth, regardless of the child’s place of birth

This reflects the principle of jus sanguinis (“right of blood”) rather than jus soli (“right of the soil”), meaning that citizenship is inherited from the parents rather than granted simply by being born in South Africa

Children born in South Africa to foreign parents do not automatically acquire citizenship. Instead, they may claim South African citizenship later, but only under specific conditions: the child must have been registered at birth, lived in South Africa until reaching the age of majority, and submit a formal application to claim citizenship

This process ensures that citizenship is not automatic for children of non-citizen parents.

Before 2013, South Africa allowed a form of conditional birthright citizenship children born in the country to at least one permanent resident parent were automatically considered citizens at birth

.However, the Citizenship Amendment Act of 2010, effective from January 1, 2013, curtailed this policy. Now, children born in South Africa to non-citizen parents only acquire citizenship if they would otherwise be stateless, and citizenship claims require a formal application after"

seppuku:
You do know that there was a period children born to Legal residents within the country were accorded citizenship by birth right?

You do know that children born in the country designated as stateless acquired birthright citizenship right?

You do know that there was a clarification of children born outside the country to a South African citizen being "redesignated" as South Africans by birth ( birthright citizenship) and not by descent, right?

Like I said leave these things to the immigration experts and ready your constitution properly cause your hate for any other person claiming to be "you" will blind you from common sense.

seppuku:
Jace Jace Jace.

You must read your immigration law very well. This is why we leave such matters to expert immigration lawyers to handle and not uneducated South Africans who are just reading their constitution for the first time.

If its a cut and dry case, She would have been gone by now.

I wonder what her lawyers are arguing are the grounds for her stay in SA.

Hmmmmm?

Mirasteel:
She should fight for her right, she's a South African citizen by birth and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

I swear jealousy will kee those lazy xenophobic black South Africans.

RandDigital:
How do you then have an independent foreign policy when you're over-reliant on the West - even live there? No wonder there's a tendency to white worship.

RandDigital:
President Tinubu🇳🇬 lives in France😏

helinues:
We don't reason or behave like the South Africans.

Their companies in Nigeria are not the one doing the Xenophobic.

Goldberg Goldberg Gobeck, the spaza shops the South Africans took over from the foreigners, some of them can't even renew the rent, while the foreigners are operating from 6am to 9pm, the new owners are opening from 10 while closing by 5pm.

Things that will hit them are already jogging on their case

IronGalaxy:
"I was a businessman in South Africa, I left my investments behind"..who are these people fooling?

seppuku:
No migrant working under the table is expecting retirement packages or contingencies. They know fully well when the game is up, its up which is why they usually send a majority of their earnings back home to build homes, fund childrens educations and save for the inevitable.

They are indeed "hard workers" in my book .

Hemanwel:
No problem. You guys should continue. You want immigrants out of your country and you have to do it in the most uncivilized way of killing them, brutalising them, destroying their property, looting their shops, etc, and you want the rest of Africa to give you thumps up and applaud you??

They say every action has consequences. I hope the Mzansis are prepared for the consequences that will follow these actions you have taken.

I understand the Boers in your country are totally not in support of your actions. Definitely, they will not be able to stand the international embarrassment that will follow the xenophobic attacks you have chosen. It will surely lead to another round of apartheid issue in your country and a possible civil war, in which the rest of Africa will sit and watch while you black South Africans are enslaved and exterminated. This is going to be in addition to other consequences that will follow.

Anywhere black South Africans are spotted on the continent, they will either be killed or chased away, like it's happening to some South African tourists in Mozambique.