₦airaland Forum

seppuku:
He probably is/was diabetic or had to do one of those surgeries to loose weight cause of potential health issues.

You know dude was living it up with that alcohol, eating sushi over the belly of those club girls and attending lavish ANC parties back in the day

Soon as he got married the man had to shape up.

Don't be mad at juju. He good.

That's one way of looking at it.I would not dismiss the possibility of stress either.They way MK snatched food out of his plate in the last election was depressingly brutal.I felt so sorry for him 😢😢

seppuku:
Malema on the world stage for 20+ years now. That is a career my friend. Please don't compare.

March until them feet start bleeding my boy.



Yep. We believe you. Send the "illegals" home.

Is he happy though? The guy keeps getting thinner and thinner for a guy who's supposedly enjoying his "career". Eish 🥺🥺🥺

seppuku:
No, she is a conduit for very myopic lumpen radicals who have a very narrow view of the world.

Let her enjoy her 15 mins of fame my brada, like Nhanlala Lux and Dabula before her, it will not last, why because its foundations are built on deep seated hate, division and injustice.

She will hold the mobs attention but for a time,as all hate mongers do






Yes, here we are now with a confused citizenry who can't tell who from who and who to kick out first or last.

As is with everything in this world.Even Malema knows what is like to have your public adulation fall short of what is used to be.When that time comes they will take each other by the hand as they head down the path of irrelevance...but for now the march is on.


It has always been about illegal grigamba, pretending not to know that is foolish.

seppuku:
infiltration you say, more like doing the dirty work for the supposed nationalist "patriots"/Religious bigot, They incite the mob then step back and absolve themselves of any wrongdoing.

Brilliant but very old tactic.






Both countries have thriving migrant and refugee communities within their borders that contribute to each country's economies, something your government should have thought about before choosing to integrate these "refugees" into communities who are being deprived of their resources and services by corrupt politicians syphoning public money out of the system and bringing drugs past durban ports to feed to their people.

Bye Laws are a different issue. They can be dealt with quite swiftly by enforcing what is already on the books.

The white paper is also introducing holding camps at the border so "these things" don't bother you anymore so no march on march needed for that.

Because they didn't do anything wrong so I don't see why they should take responsibility for incidents that got nothing to do with them.Baby girl Jacinta has a whole continent shook and she's not even a politician.

One thing you are right about is that we let immigrants in way too early,but also it's funny how SA citizens are being blamed for realising that too much was allowed in than necessary.All these marches you see are a result of a government that refused to attend to a crisis that was raised as a very pressing issue that needed agency....and here we are.

seppuku:
List of dehumanizing language and actions:

Spreading false rumors about foreigners infiltrating communities and coming to commit genocide and subplant SA

Shops being looted.

Burning people's shacks.

being stopped on the streets and questioned about your legal status.

Being flogged and forced to close businesses.

Invading people's hair salons, chastising foreign nationals, chasing them out and humiliating them.

Being denied access to healthcare when no laws are being broken.

Being questioned and killed for not being able to speak local languages.

Workplace discrimination against documented and legal workers.

e.tc.. Should I go on?






Yes, you want 100% of us to stay and challenge the government because the entire continent is only at your doorsteps, meanwhile Ivory coast and Kenya top most African countries with the highest number of refugees and migrants and we haven't heard peep from them.

Cowards you say. Tell that to the Ecomog and Nigerian Soldiers who died for the liberation of Sierra leone and Liberia.

Let me hear word abeg!

But Jacinta's movement never promoted or encouraged any of these things you listed.Any movement in the world can get infiltrated by elements of criminality and extremism.Take Islamic extremists in your country for instance - a religion that brands itself as a religion of peace is being is being defiled and desecrated by blood-thirsty criminals who kill people for not subscribing to their belief system.


The refugees in Kenya and Ivory Coast live in hijacked buildings or are they kept in refugee camps like they should be? Do they pitch illegal tents on the city sidewalks causing unbearable chaos in the name of being "industrious"? And if it's so and they choose to be docile about it then it's their country to run it whichever way they want.We South Africans do not tolerate it.

seppuku:
So you are justifying the "unnoble" and "dehumanizing" actions of your people?




Economic migrants are also fighting their unfair and corrupt governments by fighting to survive outside of these suppressive systems so they can earn a living, send the money back to their family, educate their kids and break free of the poverty cycle being perpetrated by their governments.

There are many ways of fighting a battle. We know you people are only used to one which is door to door recruiting of a whole bunch of illiterate citizens to march on the streets.

Being told to go home and start a revolution is a dehumanizing language? You wanna compare an ordinary resident marching in South Africa and how the highest office in your country🇳🇬 sponsored illiterate rascals? 🙆

Sound like absolving their governments from responsibilities they solemnly sore to undertake when they took office.

Many ways you say but haven't even done anything to challenge government.You guys are cowards, that's just the harsh truth of it all.

seppuku:
but they are inciting violence against these "migrants" by using dehumanizing language against vulnerable people and waiting for "other" hooligans to do their dirty work for them.

As for "South African" fighting inside your country, why then did a good number of your people take the fight to the apartheid government outside your shores. They "ALL" should have stayed inside there and died. Nonsense talk.

And when you had a violent state-sponsored removal of Ghanaians from your shores and sending them packing in "Ghana must go bags" it was done in a noble fashion?

Those people were still waging war against an unfair government that was operating within their country of birth.They might have been living outside but they knew where the fight must be taken,unlike the immigrant aliens we have here who left their corrupt governments to fight ours.False equivalencies don't pass for sound arguments.

favor914:
So are u saying that those SA misguided citizens are more decent than U people in Nigeria calling for execution?

I am a South African and I am saying stop the lies,the people marching in SA have never called for anyone to be executed.And btw the misguided people are immigrant aliens fighting South Africans in South Africa instead of going home and fight their own governments who messed up their countries.South Africans are fighting in SA,not Outside.

favor914:
Same thing those South Africans are saying about your brothers in their country.

South Africans have never called for execution of anyone.Stop using us for your bad faith arguments with your compatriots abeg🙏

Eagles - One Of These Nights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkb811y4fkI?si=Gldgsvg0qYyd_-fB

"I've been looking for the devil himself,I've been searching for an angel in white.I've been waiting for a woman who's a little of both.."

seppuku:
We know you hate the EFF which is why you are subliminally trying to attack them with that accusation.

No amount of diversions will take away from the fact that your far-right anti immigrant nationalist and bigoted gang members in March and March and the likes have spread enough hateful propaganda that is producing the harassment, dehumanization and death of " BLACK FOREIGNERS" in general.

This is what you want so stop shying away from it. Scream it loud and proud ABAHAMBE!

I am attacking anybody who pretends to care about a lost life when in fact they are using that as a vehicle to spread propaganda and irrational fear about a movement that has never killed anyone.These brain-dead red beret wearing rascals have never given a single damn about anybody.Oh and if you were subliminally inquiring about my political affiliation I am happy to let you know that I have never aligned myself with those people - it's no secret,buddy.

The rest of your post are your views to hold and you are more than welcome to stand on that.And my engagement with you was never to drag you towards my side of politics.You pan Africans have never stood on anything of substance and we are not afraid to tell y'all that you are just a bunch of opportunistic people.

seppuku:
You are redherring and misdirecting with pan Africanism Mfethu because you have lost the plot.

The "peaceful" marches are a ploy to camouflage the hate, harassment, intimidation, vandalism, looting, attacks and now deaths of foreign nationals.

Don't attack the messenger, attack the message.

No plot lost buddy! Pan Africans are by far some of the biggest liars and vindictive set of humans I have ever seen.Imagine using someone's death to score cheap political points.Ya'll are using this guy's death as a mean to an end and that's some sick twisted shít.

seppuku:
My brada, I don't care if you are a card-carrying member of March and March nor do I care much about the personalities or the vehicles that keep cropping up to promote xenophobia. The message is clear you are a xenophobic nation and are pretending to the rest of the world that these movements are not hate driven but about illegals. The more you guys act the clearer it becomes.

I have been preaching this forever and I have been vindicated. Embrace your collective shame and Welcome to African exceptionalism!

Wanted to use Nhlamulo's death as a weapon to attack a movement that has been demonstrating peacefully,and now he's angry because it was revealed that his death had nothing to do with the marches.. that's how vindictive and selfish these so called pan Africans are.

seppuku:
Clever South Africans
.
How is it that your 1st world efficient SAPs took less than a day to gather all the facts and quick to conclude that the Tsonga boy's death was "unrelated" to the xenophobic attacks but in the same breath the "foreigners" deaths are still "under investigation" in Mossel bay, on the same day and within the vicinity as the attacks.

Let me guess you are putting SOUTH AFRICANS FIRST!.

Shame. South African exceptionalism.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyp4e87dq6o

Two men from Mozambique were killed in South Africa's Mossel Bay, authorities have said.

In an earlier statement, the Mozambican government said five of its nationals had been killed "as a direct consequence of xenophobic attacks". But the police in South Africa did not give a motive and an investigation is ongoing.

Tensions have been rising in South Africa in recent weeks following protests calling for tougher action against illegal migration. Some African nations say it has resulted in violence against their citizens, which South African authorities have not confirmed.

The deaths of the men aged 27 and 43 on Saturday follows violence in the Western Cape the day before.

In releasing these details, the South African police said on Tuesday that they wanted to "set the record straight".

In a separate incident, officers said an 18-year-old South African man was stabbed to death in the early hours of Sunday, in what was possibly a botched robbery. No arrests have been made.

On Friday, violent unrest swept through a settlement in KwaNonqaba, during which more than 50 shacks were set on fire.

Five people have been arrested in connection with the arson, authorities have said.



One Mozambican woman told local media she and her family were "still inside when people started burning down" their house.

"They said we should leave or we'll get hurt," Dolinda Mabunda said. adding they took what they could and "ran".

While the South African police statement confirmed the killings of the two Mozambican men, Maputo said five of its citizens had been killed.

The Mozambique government alleged that 800 of its citizens had been "victims of xenophobic attacks" during Friday's violence.

It added 300 people had left South Africa on Saturday to return to Mozambique and the remaining 500 were due to follow. Two people died in a road accident.

"Given the volatility of the situation... it is expected that the current situation will worsen," the Mozambican government warned.

South African protesters have accused undocumented migrants of placing pressure on public services, as well as being involved in crime, and have called on the government to strengthen immigration enforcement, resulting in rising anti-foreigner sentiment.

Several African countries including Kenya, Malawi, Lesotho and Zimbabwe have advised their citizens to remain vigilant.

Welcome to the rude awakening.You wanted so bad for these deaths to be linked to March and March so that the fear mongering you have been spreading can somewhat look rational.

What those president tell their citizens where to not step is not a business I wanna entertain, it's their prerogative.

seppuku:
Shame. Jace lost for ideas. Mozambican lives don't matter.

RIP to the young lad who lost is life. Senseless violence.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n-HOPvy4Bo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaWn0P8GG7A

Keywords: "under police investigation"

Oh I forgot seppuku is from a 5th world country where sentiments are a conclusive evidence.Everything hinges upon a rhetoric.Seppuku just doesn't get these procedural concepts.

seppuku:
****Shame*** in Julius Malema voice, you have been caught strawmanning.

Your exceptionalism is mind boggling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AetPONLuWc0

Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.


So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?

seppuku:
You think you are being clever neh. There was more than one death plus Who said the deaths were "directly" linked to March and March. They are linked to Xenophobia fueled and instigated by your so-called peaceful marches

I repeat again so your exceptional South African brain attempts to comprehend. Prior to the peaceful "marches" why were we not inundated with lootings, harassments, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals?

Propaganda my a**

https://www.msn.com/en-za/crime/general/five-mozambican-citizens-killed-amid-rising-xenophobic-attacks-in-south-africa/ar-AA24Eppp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=celhHmz7XCY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOrW_cK7S4w

Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.


So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?

seppuku:
It's either you guys believe people are that st.upi.d. or you are living in your own preconceived nonse.ns.ical world.

Prior to your March and March's "peaceful" events why did we not see spats of looting, harassment, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals. .

Of course your March and March will deny any link but deep down this is the outcome they were banking on.The strategy of your "peaceful" marches is akin to my running into the middle of a starving mob and screaming "look it's those people over there who stole the food, but please don't do anything bad to them, then I leave to go fetch the police"

Like I said, South African exceptionalism on full display. Keep deceiving yourself.

Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.


So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?

seppuku:
Yes very "peaceful". The deaths in Mossel bay and the lootings pale in comparison. No level/degree of response required. South African exceptionalism on full display.



https://briefly.co.za/people/243225-sa-mom-pleads-son-killed-allegedly-mistaken-a-foreigner-mossel-bay/

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/kraaifontein-looting-aftermath-video-leaves-south-africans-divided-online/ar-AA24gxdr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJsasVTf-2A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLipT2Kna4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n-HOPvy4Bo

I counted minutes before you pulled this one out of your jolof ass.That Mossel Bay incident got absolutely nothing to do with these peaceful marches.Of course the so called pan Africans can't wait to discredit the march even if it means using someone's death for cheap political points.

seppuku:
Are we comparing the response to a problem or the magnitude of the problem?

Bantu education is deplorable I tell you. South African exceptionalism on display.

Both and also the fact that the two situations are not even the same in any shape or form.You got terrorists in your country piling up lifeless bodies of innocent people over absolutely nothing. What's happening in South Africa is a peaceful protest march about illegal immigration in South Africa,so yes - the silence of your president is disturbing.

So I say it again - you are not smart at all.

seppuku:
We also know why the ANC are also avoiding clamping down on your xenophobic "patriots". They are terrified that it will take away votes.

A government frightened to stand on principle and the constitution, being bullied by a small xenophobic European right winged copycat movement backed by political mischief makers.

Same script, different day.

Are you making the silence of your own president on the terrorism and mindless everyday bloodshed in your country the equivalence of ANC not clamping down on "xenophobic patriots"? So who's the APC government scared of pissing off? Aren't these acts committed by Nigerians to Nigerians?


You are not smart at all.

IronGalaxy:
https://youtube.com/shorts/4trpf0HTRzY?si=jhl_ZvHC65T4VXeU

And not a single word from their president.

seppuku:
Bantu education is really a problem.




Don't forget to add-

the incapable high tech Indian laborer who is attracted to the capital in silicon valley.

or the incapable Mexican farm worker who crosses borders to pick apples in the subsidized farms in the US.

or the incapable Chinese Wok owner who moves from Shanghai to open up his restuarant in the middle of Sandton.

Or the incapable Somali Merchant who has mastered supply chain management and set up shop in the middle of Soweto who sells goods to you.


All of them so incapable in their own countries and all chasing global...sorry.. "South African" capital.

SMH.

Trying to counter my point just to end up agreeing with it.All you highlighted here is exactly what I mean.You had to live and slave yourselves to the same "white monopoly" capital you are always telling us to dismantle.

seppuku:
but we do all day everyday.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Where are the meaningful protest marches and campaigns aimed at combating banditry and terrorism in your country? Instead y'all are focused on meaningless nonsense like starting Arsenal, Chelsea,etc fan committee while real issues in the country get ignored.

seppuku:
Chukouko does. Its called trickle down economics.



Capital doesn't get kicked out of anywhere, lt moves to where it is treated the best. The South African economy treats it the best vis a vis an established stock exchange, a well-structured banking industry that allows money move freely and quickly and ergo labor follows suite of which the African continent as a whole possesses an abundance.

Economics 101

e.g of what you just said being false would be your own Nigeria.If it trickled Chukuokwezi would not be drowning in the Mediterranean trying to escape.Over 120 million people living in abject poverty is not an example of a trickling down economy.

So basically y'all are incapable.This economic system that South Africa has built that you admire are incapable of building it for yourselves? Got it!!

seppuku:
So if we do that then that justifies your own madness?

It means shut up and focus on removing the log stuck in your eye before you try to remove a splinter in someone else's eye.

seppuku:
If they really wanted this, we would not have multinational corporations like Chevron, BP and the likes all across the continent nor would we have Hedge funds and venture capital buying up startups across the continent or millions of European tourists spending money on the continent.



The economy of South Africa is run and controlled by White monopoly capital therefore where-ever it resides and is distributed the most efficiently, it will attract and exploit labor to maximize its return.

Didn't bantu education teach you guys basis economics 101

Surely the average flip-flop wearing Chukouko Mutombo doesn't benefit from these investments,does he?


So they had white monopoly capital and kicked it out just to end up following it down South? I don't see you explaining the proper logic in all of this.

seppuku:
They want to earn money from white monopoly capital to send back to their relatives not to become you.

That's cute,because I thought the reason they kicked white people out of their countries was because they wanted to run shít and not have to depend on the white man,but now they don't mind going through "xenophobia" just to get white man's money? Do you mind explaining to me the sense in that?

seppuku:
AHH Jace, almost 20 years of xenophobia. It is not going to stop anytime soon. A new generation has taken over.

20 years of "xenophobia" and yet all that time foreigners never stopped coming here to live around us.hmm

jmoore:
Mandela see the creatures you fought for.

shut up kwe**kr!