₦airaland Forum

helinues:
See as how you are struggling to defend this. The Westerners who are in South Africa, are they there because their country is underdeveloped? Why haven't you sent them packing?

Read up the role several African countries played in your liberation from the apartheid government

Are the "Westerners" standing on corners all day selling drugs,doing human-trafficking and running Internet scams? the day you see one please remind me.

All I know is that there is no bigger payment than the loss of life and physical torture my people went through here in SA,so whatever you think your government paid can be repaid by check.

N.W.A - Express Yourself

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helinues:
Funnily, this should be my first response to the Xenophobic attacks going on in South Africa for quite some time now

I just deliberately not put mouth because severally on this forum, I talked about how the South Africans are getting carried away by not controlling their emotions towards other African people. Even when you are engaging with some of them on this forum, they have this tone of being disrespectful while at the same time lack comprehension in discussing issue

Since after Apartheid government was sent packing in SA, can the blacks who have been ruling the country point out to major achievements they have done to develop South Africa or South Africans? or how many jobs opportunity they have created?

South Africa supposed to even be a visa free to reasonable number of Africa countries due to the role they played during apartheid regime. They claimed immigrants are taking their jobs, which jobs have they South Africans created for themselves? 70% of South Africa wealth is being controlled by less than 10% white South Africans, infact there are some areas in SA that blacks are not allowed to enter.

Mandela Tax was introduced in Nigeria, I mean Nigerians are being taxed in order to raise funds for the politicians in South Africa to fight the white regime, Ghanaians school children from primary to secondary to tertiary went on protest in support of the same black South Africans.

Tanzania, Angola, Zimbabwe all sacrificed a lot for sacking the apartheid government.

Should we say some South Africans have a short memory or they are just ungrateful for treating those who stood by them during trying time. Without their input, the apartheid government would have ruled for reasonable years.

We can point to more than two achievements but then again you'll just move goal posts and credit oyinbo in a typical Nigerian fashion.

Doesn't work like that.Just because few of our people chose exile and were living in some of these countries then y'all think the rest of us must carry the burden of living with criminals from all over Africa in our communities? If y'all are owed then why don't your leaders to tell the ANC to write them a check so that this exile blackmail can be put to rest? Besides Orania which is a private enclave in the desert can you name a town or city that black South Africans are not allowed to be at? I'll give you enough time.

The biggest tax that paid for SA to be free was the blood and sweat of our forefathers.They are the ones who went toe to toe with Africa's most powerful military at the time.I never heard of a Nigerian or Ghanaian who came to SA to fight alongside our people so just stop it right the with overplaying your importance in liberating South Africa.

seppuku:
You want to run a Jacinta Ngobese Zuma number on me eh!

Never used it as a slur whether it is of consequence to you or not. Go back and run a search, What you will find is you crying to the moderator after he admonished you for using the other derogatory term "KW*$eKW**"e after I referenced K***Rland.

If you find any other time it was used outside of that context please post and expose it.

I want to run a what? Can we slow it down with exaggerations and conspiracies?

seppuku:
I remember my words very well my friend. I used it as the Moniker "Morpheus" and in reference to the area known as Ka**irland when talking about the British presence in the eastern cape and not as a derogatory Slur.

Don't dare misrepresent me. I know who I am.

No..I am talking about a particular time you used it as a slur a couple years back.But you really don't need to sweat it because it's of no consequence to me.

seppuku:
Whether you gave a squirt of piss or not, is besides the point. The use of such words is a reflection on the person using it.

You are what you are.

Ah dude you have used the word "kaffir" before.Don't exactly remember if it was this moniker or the "Morpheus" one.I guess you are on your redemption tour.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, i mean how do you even take women bro? Ai labantu bayagula

It's hard to take them seriously.

seppuku:
All I am concerned about is the possibility that He/She does indeed access information from this platform.

It is of no concern to you. We are very aware your stance on grigambas!

I highly doubt but hey! I guess it doesn't hurt to hope.

Oh you don't even need to second guess that one.

seppuku:
It's a one on one conversation we are having. What others call you or your people, is on them and not on me. If you choose to follow suite, that is your choice.

I understand the roots of that K word very clearly and choose not to engage in such i.g.norance. Indivdiual vs collective responsibility eh!

I guess what what I really mean is that I wouldn't have given a squirt of piss if you or anybody said it so you telling me why you decided not to say it is totally irrelevant information to me.

IronGalaxy:
My brother, what do you expect from a people who can't even formulate a sound argument? All of their arguments boil down to just two words "lazy" and "jealous".. these are simpletons pro.max

And their all time favourite "we are stealing your women" lol ...and someone tries to tell me that SA government official are squatting here as spies LMAO spy on what exactly? childish name-calling like "HIV country"

IronGalaxy:
You write an entire bible defending criminality, thats exactly what I expect from a Nigerian, not taking accountability

Here's the thing, there cannot be junkies without the influx of drugs in a country first. the presence of drugs create addicts, so this notion that oh its " supply and demand" its nonsense. Denounce what is wrong and stop making excuses for it..

Imagine the sick mindset of these people.He wrote all of that diarrhoea and pressed "submit" without a second thought.

AustineE1:
In economics,demand attracts supply,you should be worried of the junkie culture of your youths,depending totally on drugs as a get away from realities.Your youths are not geared towards working smartly,so they look forward to drugs. Nobody forces drugs on them,they place order and barons supply it,its pathetic.It calls for cultural reorientation. Lazy youths whom have chosen to be highly irresponsible while blaming others of have taken the jobs meant for them.
When the real call for nationalism resonates among other Africans,south Africans in other nations will be at the receiving end,they will be forced to leave and their companies nationalized.If you are so full of your country why carry your neo imperialistic companies to other black nations,MTN,SHOPRITE,DSTV, standard bank,Sabmiller,protea hotels etc they could have stayed back and operate only in your village market and see them fold up like a pack of card.
Yet Nigeria have some establishments in south Africa e.g Access Bank (which acquired Grobank), Dangote Cement, Air Peace, GZ Industries, and fintech firms like Flutterwave and Paystack. Our presence also includes media (ThisDay) and growing numbers of small-to-medium enterprises in the restaurant and other businesses.We can take it elsewhere to other African countries,oh less I forget, even our churches! so that you can fall back to your sangoma's for spiritual uplifting.
You pick a case of few black Africans whom allegedly are involved in drug businesses and justify your gruesome annual massacre of blacks in your slave island called a nation.

Oh I think I get it.The voodoo doctors in Kaduna demand more human heads and that's why y'all are harvesting human parts.I mean I am trying to understand this demand & supply theory of yours using your Nigerian logic.Y'all just do anything no matter how morally condemnable the act is? Alllright!!

seppuku:
Funny I could have sworn I overheard one of your embassy officials here in Nigeria commenting about Nairaland.

If you don't know say you don't know. You don't have to be a member of this platform to access content.

And who do you think introduced this platform to him? I mean he lives over there and obviously spent a considerable amount of time around Nigerians.

And why would anyone come here to gather Intel? As if the hate the two countries have for each other is not already publicly very well established.There is nothing new to find here about how Nigerians feel about SA and it's people.

seppuku:
FYI, I could stoop as low as you as to use derogatory terms such as "grigamba" nje, and reciprocate by calling you the "K word" but being the better man and understanding the psychological damage your people have undergone, I choose the high road.

You mean Kaffir? I do believe I have seen it multiple times on here but then I have come to understand this place and how the people here feel about South Africa and its people.Yeah you can stop performing this morally upstanding person out of consideration for my people...we have been called a whole lot worse lol

seppuku:
This is a platform which extends out to others around the globe. I even suspect there are South African government officials and spies who frequent these forums gathering intel, therefore, the message was never intended for your ears alone.

Let's do the math.A platform with 3,3 million members and mostly Nigerian people and whose opinions we never cared for btw - what are the odds of a South African government official squatting here to "gather Intel"? The answer is absolute zero.

You going to need a bigger medium than this place if you intend to spread whatever you wanna get across,up until then I guess we'll just stick to name-calling hoping that it will yields anything while the agitation is taking place in the streets in real time.

seppuku:
Suspend the Naija red herring. What about the Cameroonians, The Congolese, Your precious calm and well behaved friends the Ghananians, The Zimbabweans, the Mozambicans, people from Lesotho, The Kenyans, Tanzanians, The burundians, The Malawians all being affected and commenting on social media.

All of them must be as delusional neh!

Stop covering up Xenophobia in the "guise" of patriotism.The whole world can't be that ST*P*D!

Maybe they are delusional.Maybe you should ask them because nna personally I never really cared for the feelings and emotions of grigambas.If people call 60 million South Africans xenophobic then there's really no need for me convince anyone otherwise.

South Africans are xenophobic,yes? No?
Nigerians are drug dealers and human traffickers,yes? No?

Let everybody wear their medals 🏅 🏅 with pride.I mean Seppukuphuku,we can drag each other all day with whatever words we can find to describe each other but at the end the day the marches are happening in the streets so coming at me ain't gon' change a damn thing.

AustineE1:
We ve been to world cup before you ever dreamt of it,moreover your going to world cup is to complete the numbers,'banana banana' is only going to the world cup to serve as comic relief to serious contenders.
They players you mentioned above are mere average players,if they were Nigerians,they wont make the cut for super eagles as of the time they were South African best.
You lots suffer from low self esteem,you stay in your country and worship whites only to exhibit your inherent xenophobic disease ones you see blacks.
A novelist once described your lots as 'slaves that loves their chain'!
Other black Africans spent billions trying to save you lots from the apartheid era and only for 'slaves that loves their chain' to turn against the same people who fought day and night to see to their freedom.
Heroes like Nelson Mandela,Bishop Desmond Tutu,Oliver Thambo,Walter Sisulu,Lucky Dube,great members of Palancas Negras etc will be turning in their grave in dissappoint with you ungrateful south African black lots.

This all projection and reluctance to bear the burden of having to come to grips with the fact that you will be watching the world cup from Makoko without your squad at tournament.I mean it must really sting that a team you tried by all means to sabotage out of the competition outsmarted you and outperformed you,hence the rage and bitter hypothetical scenarios.And your supposed superior players couldn't make it past Zimbabwe and Lesotho? See how the jokes just keep writing themselves.

We are slaves because we are telling you to go back home and fix your failed countries? Because we realised that this model of pan Africa where there is one way influx of immigrants pouring into one country doesn't work and are cutting ties then we are bad people? Lol you guys are gonna have to reach to the bottom of the barrel and find something new because the name-calling doesn't work anymore,has never worked actually.And all of these coming from the biggest tribal and religious bigots in Africa? Dude you are the last people to point a figure.

Mandela,Tutu and them never went to anybody's country and sold drugs,ran Internet scams,faked university qualifications and ran human-trafficking rings.Stop using our struggle heroes for your manipulative tactics, it's not gonna work.

Olat4421:
Oga shut up ave watch most of ur south Africans video and comment some of u people mentioned Igbo in ur comments, and one thing dat skyrocket it is d issues of d Igbo King, and considering majority of d Nigeria doing businesses in South Africans are Igbo and dat is even ur problem, u people are just full of hatred and envyness, not even just only to Igbo but all foreigners even ur close neighbors, but u lick d ass of d white

You are not going to tell me to shut up when I am talking about my people.It was made known that the "king" was of Igbo tribe because they paraded the whole thing,we South Africans couldn't tell you guys apart unless you tell us what tribe you come from in Nigeria.The reason for the backlash is not based on the guy's tribe,so again, you failed to think critically.

At least we don't kill each other based on tribal and religious bigotry, that's your thing.Where in South have you heard of Islamic militants stopping a whole bus full of passengers at gunpoint and sh0t those who failed to recite the Quran? Hmm?

NSK4U:
Don't tell me about South Africa. Tell me about those who devoted their time to write and publish things against an entire tribe just to make the rest of the world see them as bad. For me, the level of hatred from SA is still learning work from where our own sophisticated neighbours who claim to be lovers of one Nigeria but will go as far as teaching their children of how not to associate with Igbos even right from primary schools.

How can I be bothered about South Africa which is in even a separate country from me, yet people I share country and claim to be lovers of one Nigeria would do everything possible to tarnish the image of the entire tribe just to look like they are the only good people living in the country. It's an age-long propaganda to make Igbos look bad until lately, Igbos are now exposing their patterns. Just that recently, Igbos have started looking at the things they write and publish to the rest of the world about Igbos. Imagine that the force headquarters needed to attach an Igbo name to their son's identity after he defamed them in foreign land, just to make people like the south Africans hate Igbos the more.

I'll wait here with you to see if there will be any accountability.

Interesting read!🤔

Olat4421:
if u know d way south African hate igbo particular u wouldn't even type dis

Sir,please don't lie about us,we don't know no Igbo,we just know Nigerians.That one of hating people based on tribes is for you guys over there.

GOLDSON888:
S/A LAZINESS has made them to become "SADDEST". PLS, LET ALL FORGET THEM AND SEE IF THEY CAN SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN. YOUR HATRED FOR FELLOW AFRICAN BOTHERS HAS TO BOUND

We have always been on our own,sir.

DuttyChuks:
Hyp0crite! Why would they love you when you're all finishing yourselves with tribalism and hate back home and you expect an outsider to love anything that is associated with the blood lineage from your country. The hate, and denial will continue...

Clock it!! Lol

1solution:
I now know the problems of south Africans mean the bitter ones. They have complex issues, low self esteem and very lazy. [b]Is a pity the whites are still with them,I wonder how that place would have been without the white Africans.[b] Hate us or envy us Nigerians pass U in all ramifications . We be Baba for everything under the sun in Africa, Una still dey play

The way Nigerians are bothered by white people being in South Africa is the weirdest thing ever,like why is somebody so far away in West Africa so obsessed with us so much? dude how does it affect your daily life as West African what we do down South?

ogaontop:
I totally disagree with you!
You are the one to use your google for a comparative analysis with other top African nations, especially Nigeria!

You are disagreeing with facts because of grudge you hold against SA? Does life really work that way?

AustineE1:
I don't mean white South Africans but black South Africans.

Bafana Bafana that's heading to the world cup (which you won't be part of) is made up of 100% black players ..try another angle.

Rebelutionary:
Almost impossible ke? Local champions?

A simple Google search will shame you abeg!

SA have their issues but abeg you can communicate fact without the needless tendency to put down SA in "sports"!

I get it if he hates SA and it's people but to rewrite facts and downplay what we have achieved in sports? Nah

AustineE1:
It is almost impossible for a south Africa guy to make it in sports outside the shores of south Africa,they hardly have the tenacity to compete against the best,aside from their locality where they turn local champions.He is only doing south Africa a favour to associate with them because he was born there.
This guy is a Nigerian to the core and hence,his achievements. Like Nigeria and other core black nations,they can hold their side wherever they find themselves.

Benny McCarthy,Steven Pienaar,Percy Tau,Thabo Sefolosha and many more have competed against the best so your statement is a fallacy.And FIFA world cup is around the corner and guess who's not gonna be competing,yup Mr Green & White is not there lol so who truly lacks the tenacity here?

Don't you think it's high time you actually developed your sporting facilities so you won't have to always benchmark your excellence based upon achieving your dreams outside Nigeria? Who is he doing a favour again? With outstanding people SA has produced you think we need this guy to elevate us? You can't be serious.

Omoojugo:
If nor be our leaders wetin concern giant of Africa with those small nations,south Africans just Dey vex say we Nigerians better pass them

A "small" country that has invested heavily by bringing you DStv, Shoprite,MTN and many more?.Magrigamba le ungrateful shem and this is why a grigamba is not to be trusted.

Emeskhalifa:
But why are Nigerians so attached to South Africa? Like don't y'all got some self esteem?

I just don't get it as well.Like can't they just accept that these two countries don't like each other and just let it go?

Sonnobax15:

South Africans are really a bitter set of people.

No wonder they always look like people who do BBL on their fore heads

Just look who's talking about heads lol