seppuku: We know you hate the EFF which is why you are subliminally trying to attack them with that accusation.
No amount of diversions will take away from the fact that your far-right anti immigrant nationalist and bigoted gang members in March and March and the likes have spread enough hateful propaganda that is producing the harassment, dehumanization and death of " BLACK FOREIGNERS" in general.
This is what you want so stop shying away from it. Scream it loud and proud ABAHAMBE!
I am attacking anybody who pretends to care about a lost life when in fact they are using that as a vehicle to spread propaganda and irrational fear about a movement that has never killed anyone.These brain-dead red beret wearing rascals have never given a single damn about anybody.Oh and if you were subliminally inquiring about my political affiliation I am happy to let you know that I have never aligned myself with those people - it's no secret,buddy.
The rest of your post are your views to hold and you are more than welcome to stand on that.And my engagement with you was never to drag you towards my side of politics.You pan Africans have never stood on anything of substance and we are not afraid to tell y'all that you are just a bunch of opportunistic people.
seppuku: You are redherring and misdirecting with pan Africanism Mfethu because you have lost the plot.
The "peaceful" marches are a ploy to camouflage the hate, harassment, intimidation, vandalism, looting, attacks and now deaths of foreign nationals.
Don't attack the messenger, attack the message.
No plot lost buddy! Pan Africans are by far some of the biggest liars and vindictive set of humans I have ever seen.Imagine using someone's death to score cheap political points.Ya'll are using this guy's death as a mean to an end and that's some sick twisted shít.
seppuku: My brada, I don't care if you are a card-carrying member of March and March nor do I care much about the personalities or the vehicles that keep cropping up to promote xenophobia. The message is clear you are a xenophobic nation and are pretending to the rest of the world that these movements are not hate driven but about illegals. The more you guys act the clearer it becomes.
I have been preaching this forever and I have been vindicated. Embrace your collective shame and Welcome to African exceptionalism!
Wanted to use Nhlamulo's death as a weapon to attack a movement that has been demonstrating peacefully,and now he's angry because it was revealed that his death had nothing to do with the marches.. that's how vindictive and selfish these so called pan Africans are.
seppuku: Clever South Africans . How is it that your 1st world efficient SAPs took less than a day to gather all the facts and quick to conclude that the Tsonga boy's death was "unrelated" to the xenophobic attacks but in the same breath the "foreigners" deaths are still "under investigation" in Mossel bay, on the same day and within the vicinity as the attacks.
Let me guess you are putting SOUTH AFRICANS FIRST!.
Two men from Mozambique were killed in South Africa's Mossel Bay, authorities have said.
In an earlier statement, the Mozambican government said five of its nationals had been killed "as a direct consequence of xenophobic attacks". But the police in South Africa did not give a motive and an investigation is ongoing.
Tensions have been rising in South Africa in recent weeks following protests calling for tougher action against illegal migration. Some African nations say it has resulted in violence against their citizens, which South African authorities have not confirmed.
The deaths of the men aged 27 and 43 on Saturday follows violence in the Western Cape the day before.
In releasing these details, the South African police said on Tuesday that they wanted to "set the record straight".
In a separate incident, officers said an 18-year-old South African man was stabbed to death in the early hours of Sunday, in what was possibly a botched robbery. No arrests have been made.
On Friday, violent unrest swept through a settlement in KwaNonqaba, during which more than 50 shacks were set on fire.
Five people have been arrested in connection with the arson, authorities have said.
One Mozambican woman told local media she and her family were "still inside when people started burning down" their house.
"They said we should leave or we'll get hurt," Dolinda Mabunda said. adding they took what they could and "ran".
While the South African police statement confirmed the killings of the two Mozambican men, Maputo said five of its citizens had been killed.
The Mozambique government alleged that 800 of its citizens had been "victims of xenophobic attacks" during Friday's violence.
It added 300 people had left South Africa on Saturday to return to Mozambique and the remaining 500 were due to follow. Two people died in a road accident.
"Given the volatility of the situation... it is expected that the current situation will worsen," the Mozambican government warned.
South African protesters have accused undocumented migrants of placing pressure on public services, as well as being involved in crime, and have called on the government to strengthen immigration enforcement, resulting in rising anti-foreigner sentiment.
Several African countries including Kenya, Malawi, Lesotho and Zimbabwe have advised their citizens to remain vigilant.
Welcome to the rude awakening.You wanted so bad for these deaths to be linked to March and March so that the fear mongering you have been spreading can somewhat look rational.
What those president tell their citizens where to not step is not a business I wanna entertain, it's their prerogative.
Oh I forgot seppuku is from a 5th world country where sentiments are a conclusive evidence.Everything hinges upon a rhetoric.Seppuku just doesn't get these procedural concepts.
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.
So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?
seppuku: You think you are being clever neh. There was more than one death plus Who said the deaths were "directly" linked to March and March. They are linked to Xenophobia fueled and instigated by your so-called peaceful marches
I repeat again so your exceptional South African brain attempts to comprehend. Prior to the peaceful "marches" why were we not inundated with lootings, harassments, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals?
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.
So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?
seppuku: It's either you guys believe people are that st.upi.d. or you are living in your own preconceived nonse.ns.ical world.
Prior to your March and March's "peaceful" events why did we not see spats of looting, harassment, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals. .
Of course your March and March will deny any link but deep down this is the outcome they were banking on.The strategy of your "peaceful" marches is akin to my running into the middle of a starving mob and screaming "look it's those people over there who stole the food, but please don't do anything bad to them, then I leave to go fetch the police"
Like I said, South African exceptionalism on full display. Keep deceiving yourself.
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.
So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?
seppuku: Yes very "peaceful". The deaths in Mossel bay and the lootings pale in comparison. No level/degree of response required. South African exceptionalism on full display.
I counted minutes before you pulled this one out of your jolof ass.That Mossel Bay incident got absolutely nothing to do with these peaceful marches.Of course the so called pan Africans can't wait to discredit the march even if it means using someone's death for cheap political points.
seppuku: Are we comparing the response to a problem or the magnitude of the problem?
Bantu education is deplorable I tell you. South African exceptionalism on display.
Both and also the fact that the two situations are not even the same in any shape or form.You got terrorists in your country piling up lifeless bodies of innocent people over absolutely nothing. What's happening in South Africa is a peaceful protest march about illegal immigration in South Africa,so yes - the silence of your president is disturbing.
seppuku: We also know why the ANC are also avoiding clamping down on your xenophobic "patriots". They are terrified that it will take away votes.
A government frightened to stand on principle and the constitution, being bullied by a small xenophobic European right winged copycat movement backed by political mischief makers.
Same script, different day.
Are you making the silence of your own president on the terrorism and mindless everyday bloodshed in your country the equivalence of ANC not clamping down on "xenophobic patriots"? So who's the APC government scared of pissing off? Aren't these acts committed by Nigerians to Nigerians?
the incapable high tech Indian laborer who is attracted to the capital in silicon valley.
or the incapable Mexican farm worker who crosses borders to pick apples in the subsidized farms in the US.
or the incapable Chinese Wok owner who moves from Shanghai to open up his restuarant in the middle of Sandton.
Or the incapable Somali Merchant who has mastered supply chain management and set up shop in the middle of Soweto who sells goods to you.
All of them so incapable in their own countries and all chasing global...sorry.. "South African" capital.
SMH.
Trying to counter my point just to end up agreeing with it.All you highlighted here is exactly what I mean.You had to live and slave yourselves to the same "white monopoly" capital you are always telling us to dismantle.
Where are the meaningful protest marches and campaigns aimed at combating banditry and terrorism in your country? Instead y'all are focused on meaningless nonsense like starting Arsenal, Chelsea,etc fan committee while real issues in the country get ignored.
seppuku: Chukouko does. Its called trickle down economics.
Capital doesn't get kicked out of anywhere, lt moves to where it is treated the best. The South African economy treats it the best vis a vis an established stock exchange, a well-structured banking industry that allows money move freely and quickly and ergo labor follows suite of which the African continent as a whole possesses an abundance.
Economics 101
e.g of what you just said being false would be your own Nigeria.If it trickled Chukuokwezi would not be drowning in the Mediterranean trying to escape.Over 120 million people living in abject poverty is not an example of a trickling down economy.
So basically y'all are incapable.This economic system that South Africa has built that you admire are incapable of building it for yourselves? Got it!!
seppuku: If they really wanted this, we would not have multinational corporations like Chevron, BP and the likes all across the continent nor would we have Hedge funds and venture capital buying up startups across the continent or millions of European tourists spending money on the continent.
The economy of South Africa is run and controlled by White monopoly capital therefore where-ever it resides and is distributed the most efficiently, it will attract and exploit labor to maximize its return.
Didn't bantu education teach you guys basis economics 101
Surely the average flip-flop wearing Chukouko Mutombo doesn't benefit from these investments,does he?
So they had white monopoly capital and kicked it out just to end up following it down South? I don't see you explaining the proper logic in all of this.
seppuku: They want to earn money from white monopoly capital to send back to their relatives not to become you.
That's cute,because I thought the reason they kicked white people out of their countries was because they wanted to run shít and not have to depend on the white man,but now they don't mind going through "xenophobia" just to get white man's money? Do you mind explaining to me the sense in that?
seppuku: That's strange. The Ghana representative said the opposite, that only 10 were found to be undocumented. The other day your march and march didn't believe home affairs numbers with the 450 migrants that were bunkered at the police station
Hmmmm, who are we to believe. A country with an "agenda" against migrants or an unbiased Ghana official taking his countrymen home.
Believe Ghana representative.I am sure I didn't even have to tell you this one.
KingCold: I understand the Cambodians fully.. funny no one's calling them "xenophobic".. interesting, though bot surprising
And Cambodia has given them very little time to pack up.Like they announced this just yesterday.At least we gave them grace by letting it be known 3 weeks in advance.
Even the protests in the UK are not called xenophobic, ain't it funny how there's an understanding when it's not us doing it?
Only 10 out of 300.It is worth noting that this is only the first batch taken by the first repatriation/deportation flight just to Ghana alone.Can you imagine what's still out there hiding in South Africa?
Segzy19: My comment isn't for you because you have shown a lack of understanding at my comment. If you have been there or lived there for long, then you will comprehend my comment....