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felixomor:
Bros, na u lie pass! I confirm am,
na u first make claim without evidence....
No vex,

Ah? Me? See my life.


I have made the claim before to him with evidence. Apple, Microsoft, Japan and China.....

KingEbukaNaija:
Taaa ... sharap . Christians are the ones who brought us technology .

What? Which christians?

You dey lie oooo

Interesting thread. Good to see our Nigerian bred atheists.

As for kingebukanaija, trolling this thread will not convert any atheist to christianity

udatso:
I'm not surprised you didn't see the sense in his post

the sense?

wake me up when you have sense

felixomor:
Thank u for reminding him.
They are also generally, the least charitable people in the world.

The same set of people that create the technologies you enjoy?

Are you a pharisee?

KingEbukaNaija:
Atheists are animal lovers

Animals are atheist lovers.

Niflheim:
The quantum state is the spiritual state?!!! PATHETIC!!!

MY INTERPRETATION: "I am toooooo desperate to make my god real!!! I will literally say anything, no matter how ridiculous, to make my god real!!!

A wise man once said that any advancement in science or technology is magic to the ignorant.

KingEbukaNaija:
why?

KingEbukaNaija:

Not funny

KingEbukaNaija:
With close to 10 pages of comments and 1500 pageviews ? It was work well done !!! .

Wait oo!

KingEbuka is right sha

KingEbukaNaija:
I wonder why they won't give sensible answers

Your trolling is not working....try harder!

Vicoch:
he he he HardMirror, JackBizzle, Cloudgoddess, hahn, seun, onetrack, valentinemary coman see lie...

Plappvillemoi:
This guy is a brainwashed muslim. Imagine his comment. There are many religions but only one religion is terrorising the whole place. Yet some will still defend this cancer.

I agree with his base sentiment that not all muslims are terrorists. There are bad eggs in every religion.


However, the guy is an expert in denying the obvious that the terrorism in France is clearly islamic.

johnydon22:
The recent obsession with atheists and atheism on Nairaland is an act of desperation and a chronic need to feel relevant, so is mostly unnecessary to engage as you'd learn nothing from it - Best Ignored.

Though i am loving the recent atheistphobia and propaganda - it shows the presence of Nairaland atheist is seriously butt hurting some, and i'd be disappointed if it's not.

So seat back and enjoy the show, it's just a momentarily last gasp.

Evil prospers when good men do nothing.

Amberon11:
Dunce! what is pulling things towards the ground? why is gravity unseen? are unseen things physical?? are radio waves physical? Go study about the history of physics. And watch some YouTube videos on "energy is everything" to cure your ignorance.

Try to calm down and make a point. I cant make sense of what you are saying.

UyiIredia:
No one bothers with what anyone thinks but they are bothered by what they say.

Nice one

felixomor:
Did i just hear "must God be tied to a religion? "
Hmmmm, no comments

What? Is such a simple question confusing you?


Must God be tied to a religion?

ValentineMary:
This is really funny. Why bother what Winner01 says? personally I have stopped bothering myself about what religious people think. That's their problem.

Not everyone is practiced in apathy like you.

I write things so that others can learn from me and also, so that i can be corrected. We learn everyday.


I am not an apathetic atheist.

winner01:
well, atheists only believe what they can see.

Naah, no human is an enemy of another.
The devil is the enemy, and he uses people.
The conspiracy is great but not unbelieveable.

Catholics, jws etc are not bad people, but might be misled by the lie of the devil.

The devil acheives far more by mimicry than by outright opposition.

See the nonsense you are writing. So your own christianity is the true christianity?

See why I say the bible is mostly crap? Even among christians, you cannot agree on what is in the bible.

God is truly the author of confusion.


I like JWs by the way. They are so crazed in their version of christianity that they will come to your door to preach to you.

winner01:
Stop laughing at yourself.
Gravity is not physical or material, but it acts on the physical.

The fact that you dont believe in gravity will not stop you from falling under the force of gravity.

There are consequences for what we believe, even though you wish such consequences away.

Gravity is very much phyiscal, even if we can see it.

Can you see the wind? No but it is physical.

winner01:
Could it not mean that evil people are trying to pervert the Gospel?
Why are people not duplicating and mistranslating other texts?
why christianity? why! why!

The existence of fake nike products do not discredit the authenticity of nike.

When you fear God, you reverence Him. The word fear is originally "yirat", which means consciousness. When you are conscious of God every time of your life, then you will live a godly life.

Yirat Adonai refers to the fear of God, the consciousness of our creator.

God is God no matter what you going through.

What?

Are you saying that catholics, JWs, mormons, baptists etc are all your enemies with their different translations?

lmao

winner01:
Thanks, I just hope everyone can see this.

No matter the proof, if it is against atheism, atheists will find a way to explain it away.

What proof?

You claim that atheist families in france produce the most number of young isis recruits. That is a very confusing claim that requires a lot of evidence. Such a claim contradicts common sense and already existing facts on our knowledge of isis from various sources. Also, the study is no where to be found. So your claim is bunk. Even the bbc gets it wrong sometimes.


For example, it contradicts the news/reports on young isis militants-

1) Isis support is from young muslims-
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260823/do-majority-young-french-muslims-support-isis-daniel-greenfield

2) Isis support strongly from french MUSlIM immigrants
Newsweek's France Correspondent, Anne-Elizabeth Moutet, was unsurprised by the news. "This is the ideology of young French Muslims from immigrant backgrounds," she said, "unemployed to the tune of 40%, who've been deluged by satellite TV and internet propaganda." She pointed to a correlation between support for ISIS and rising anti-Semitism in France, adding that "these are the same people who torch synagogues".
http://europe.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795?rm=eu

3) 42% of muslim youth support isis
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/pew-poll-42-of-muslim-youth-in-france-always-support-suicide-bombing/



bringing atheists into support of isis in france is very stupiid if you consider the overwhelming evidence and logic against it

winner01:
Meme number 3.

God inspired men to write the Bible.
Atheists are fond of saying books dont prove anything.
Well, we all get our info. or most from books.

Just that the Buble is a special book.

The bible is so special that no one agrees about what is written in the bible?

JW have their own translation
Catholics have their own bible
Mormons have their own
Baptists have their own preferred bibl
etc


here is a meme for you

winner01:
Gravity is not physical but acts on the physical.

Of course christians are here to promote religion because this is a religion section.

What are atheists here to promote?

You really have no reason for this obsession, do you?

We leave the moment its name is changed to "Atheist section"

Gravity is not physical?

So it is spiritual demon that is pulling you towards the ground when you jump up?

winner01:
Here is the link to the lies Sir.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30119868

We dont lie, we deal with facts.
We are not dullards, you can feed your fellow atheists your bull.

So I took time to read the link. All I can say is that the BBC messed up big time and secondly, I cant find such claim (that atheist families bring the most isis young jihadist) corroborated anywhere. I can't even find the study.

Furthermore, the claim is contradicted here-


A 2014 opinion poll found that ISIS had an approval rating in France (at 16%) almost as high as President Francois Holland (at 18%).

"In the 18-to-24-year-old demographic, ISIS’ support jumped to 27%. Muslims comprise about a tenth of France’s population, so the results imply that ISIS had the support of the overwhelming majority of French Muslims (and especially Muslim youth), as well as the endorsement of a large part of the non-Muslim Left.

Religious statistics can be harder to come by from France than some European countries, so these are estimates, but they do provide a clearer picture.

Something like half of the Muslim population of around 5 million in France is under 24. That means Muslims are a much higher proportion of the youth than of the general population. This same picture repeats itself across Europe and even in the United States. The median Muslim age across Europe is 32."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260823/do-majority-young-french-muslims-support-isis-daniel-greenfield






The most interesting thing is that France has a law against any census on religion.



I'm sorry but i would like to see the study itself

shadeyinka:
My dear OP
I have not misrepresented you.

(1). noun (plural atheisms)
(narrowly) Belief that no deities exist (sometimes, excluding other religious beliefs).
(broadly) Rejection of belief that any deities exist (with or without a belief that no deities exist).
(very broadly) Absence of belief that any deities exist (including absence of the concept of deities).
(loosely) Absence of belief in a particular deity, pantheon, or religious doctrine (notwithstanding belief in other deities).

(2 & 3). My aim is not to validate the Bible, Quran or any other spiritual book.
My aim is to expose the fallacy of thinning that everything there is is Physical.

Come to think of it. How will you describe a computer program to an intelligent computer who think that everything about it is the KBD, VDU, MOUSE and Plug.

The software of Physical Existence is the Spiritual.

(4&5.). Religion! I have not implied any religion. For you, you are not ready for that because the fundermental to any form of religion you may have chosen is zero.
Religion is what men do to "Please" their god.

I am not advocating RELIGION. I am advocating GOD!



Thanks for the Title. I appreciate it.
Am I worse than winner01 and KingEbukaNaija who according to you are the greatest source of misinformation on Nairaland? LOL!

Answer my questions if you can




I know of two reality of existence, you know of just one. Therefore, I can speak of the Spiritual (demons) and the Physical(science). Don't bring me down into you limitation.

lol......there has never been any proof of the spiritual. Why is that spirits never appear in public? Must it always be in a secluded area to few untrustworthy witnesses?

My problem is not with you actually since you are not here to force or promote religion.

shadeyinka:
Aren't you a FANATICAL Atheist?

Most Atheist are! .....Half educated in the sciences (even if they are Professors because, to justify their positions, they have to break the fundermental rules and laws of science.

Demons have made them host and active participant in the Hatred of the Almighty God.

Where was the law of Entropy before and when when the Big Bang occured.?
Where was the law of Conservation of Energy before the Big Bang occurred?
Explain "the waves-particle duality of Matter"?
Explain genetic mutation in terms of DNA code?

Why do you hate God that much? He doesn't fit into your mortal concept? If God is "Abstract" to you why will you replace Him with some Abstract scientific theorems which science itself doesn't have an answer?

All Atheists have two gods
IGNORANCE and SCIENCE

If God is NOT a Physical Being,
the proof for Gods existence cannot be in the Physical?

Think about that!

You mention demons and science in the same sentence as if they have anything to do with each other.

You are the worst of the ignorant army here on nairaland. You need to follow these simple steps to undo your religious brainwashing

1) Read about the definition of atheism (from a dictionary)
2) Read why atheists do not accept the bible (from atheist sites and secular sites)
3) Compare what they say with the bible.
4) Research on countries that are religious vs those that are not religious, then compare the progress
5) Read about other religions and not the one that you were born with. Dont be close minded


Follow these steps and lead a better life

winner01:
Im here now. So relax.


Question: What kind of special dunce believes that atheist families give rise to muslim terrorists? 80 percent? So atheist fathers now teach islam to kids?


Answer: Ladies and gentlemen The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is the special dunce that misinformed us. Let ne post a screen grab of the misinformation. lmao.

Ohhh.....the lies!!!

Where is the link to this piece of misinformation?

KingEbukaNaija and Winner01 are the greatest sources for misinformation about atheism/secularism/irreligion.

I choose to correct them not to win arguments over them but to try and at least, save a poor soul from believing the nonsense that these guys spew. I have seen how Nigerians go and embarrass themselves abroad because they can not handle the thought of non-religious people. This is a time when pounds and dollars matter- and I dont want to see a Nigerian doctor, nurse, accountant etc lose their job because they said nonsense about a non-religious client.



Without further ado-

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What kind of special dunce believes that atheist families give rise to muslim terrorists? 80 percent? So atheist fathers now teach islam to kids? Or children from atheist homes covert to islam at an alarming rate?

Lies lies lies with a mix of silliness. Winner01, stop taking oshogbo weed.
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a) Einstein is not the authority on atheism.
b) Einstein was talking about FANATICAL atheist and not just atheist. He calls himself an agnostic- which ironically is still an atheist.
c) Einstein did not believe in the christian God.

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a) Atheists do not believe in the bible because it contains a lot of falsehoods (eg God changing between old and new testament)
b) The bible is written by men but claimed to be from God. That is the issue
c) The science textbooks are written by men but (unlike the bible) they do not claim to be infallible and divine
d) Nice strawman!

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a) No one is arguing for the state to decide morality. A lot of atheists are secular humanists- humanist believe that morality should be reasoned out.
b) Slavery, holocaust and segregation were all done by religious people with religious presidents. Slavery and the holocaust were done with christian beliefs. Hitler believed that he was doing Gods work and the slave owners in America defended the slavery with the bible.
c) Nice strawman
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a) Christians who believe in hell also torture and kill people. Christianity does not stop people from being evil.
b) People can be good with or without religion
c) There are christians who don't believe in hell. So even if this clown of a priest is right, he still indicts christianity with his anti atheist claim
d) People should do good for goodness sake. If you are only good because of rewards, then you are just an azz-licker




more coming...................


cc...winner01, kingebukanaija, hahn, hopefullandlord etc

felixomor:
Ok which of the gods or god did he believe in? Muslim, greek or which?
Pls one answer, no dribbles this time.

You people (christians like ebuka and winner) are so dubious that you start to look silly in the eyes of normal people.


MUST GOD BE TIED TO A RELIGION?--- this is the first question you should have asked yourself. Do you know what deism is


And secondly, Hitler still believed in a christian notion of God. Afterall, he believed in doing the lord's work.


Let it be clear- he hated certain types of christianity that promoted ignorance and didnt respect the state's power. He was still very much a christian.

KingEbukaNaija:
Of Hitler's views !!!

lol....there are hilter's own statements that show his views. But no, the liar that you are, you use obscure statements by others to show his views

KingEbukaNaija:
@ jackBizzle

The memorandum was first published in The Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the [size=14pt]International Military Tribunal[/size],

You do realize that this strong tangible evidence.... right ?

Evidence for what? Quotes that hitler did not make?