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JackBizzle:
Speechless3,

You are very lucky that I did not catch onto this thread early on.

I can see that you are enjoying yourself and trolling the atheists here. Let me put a stop to that-



Addressing the laws of logic;
1) Logic is a human construct. It exists (albeit as an abstract) because we as intelligent beings use it to explain and understand our environment around us. You cannot touch logic- it exists abstractly just like love or emotions do. They have no tangible existence.

2) Logic is not absolutely perfect or objective- there are logical paradoxes and conundrums that defy human logic. However, aside these paradoxes, logic is objective and also, it works better if there is some experience tied to it.

3) Outside a human brain or outside our universe, logic might actually be different. For example, To an ant, a sheet of paper is a cuboid while a human will see it as flat rectangle. We use paper for 2 dimensional constructs but it would be 3 dimensional if we were as small as ants.


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addressing the manufactured car vs the created universe
1) Apples and oranges- A car is not a natural object compared to the earth or a universe. An analogy using a car and the universe to explain creation will always fail.

2) A car is man-made. We already know its origin- it has been made by humans at a manufacturing plant and there is evidence. The universe is unknown. The car is not an organic matter that can evolve or grow on its own.

3) No one knows the origin of the universe. Even the big bang as a theory has many unexplained areas. No one knows. Claiming it is God is a just a lazy lie

Speechless3?

Hello? You ran away?

Tufanja:
Your wish is already fulfilled.

I hope so.

UyiIredia:
Ok. So far, so good.



True.



Logic hasn't changed only the perspective of the creatures involved.



It won't. We are making a comparison using complexity as a margin. The universe and its life are very complex.



I have shown the similarity used in the analogy anything else you add as a requirement is empty mind games which no one should tag along with.



And why is God a lie? No reason. But there is logic to your simple denial of God as the first cause. Materialism and its st*pidity.

I read, re-read and triple re-read your post and it still didnt make sense.

I'm weeping because your brain is dead. My condolences

Nihilist:
I was last active in this section 3 years ago, and you guys are still trading barbs when we all know you'd both rather trade body fluids instead.

At least now we know that Logicboy is in for the amber rose treatment...

Amber Rose turned out to be a gold-digging slutt. Dated and benefited from different big men in Hollywood/Entertainment business.

Ubenedictus:
hehehe, i tink those bulls were on chatel slavery, that of prisoners of war and servitude was different

Prisoners of war? Indetured servitude?


Which prisoners of war or economic migrants were Europeans taking slaves from Ethopia under the support of the catholic church.


You and Italo should be lawyers. You can lie lie lie!

Ubenedictus:
gud research

I will sell my left eye the day you say something truthful about the bad things the catholic church has done.

We both know that Italo is not telling the full story- there are popes who supported slavery in their writings eg Pope Gregory 1

Speechless3,

You are very lucky that I did not catch onto this thread early on.

I can see that you are enjoying yourself and trolling the atheists here. Let me put a stop to that-



Addressing the laws of logic;
1) Logic is a human construct. It exists (albeit as an abstract) because we as intelligent beings use it to explain and understand our environment around us. You cannot touch logic- it exists abstractly just like love or emotions do. They have no tangible existence.

2) Logic is not absolutely perfect or objective- there are logical paradoxes and conundrums that defy human logic. However, aside these paradoxes, logic is objective and also, it works better if there is some experience tied to it.

3) Outside a human brain or outside our universe, logic might actually be different. For example, To an ant, a sheet of paper is a cuboid while a human will see it as flat rectangle. We use paper for 2 dimensional constructs but it would be 3 dimensional if we were as small as ants.


==========================
addressing the manufactured car vs the created universe
1) Apples and oranges- A car is not a natural object compared to the earth or a universe. An analogy using a car and the universe to explain creation will always fail.

2) A car is man-made. We already know its origin- it has been made by humans at a manufacturing plant and there is evidence. The universe is unknown. The car is not an organic matter that can evolve or grow on its own.

3) No one knows the origin of the universe. Even the big bang as a theory has many unexplained areas. No one knows. Claiming it is God is a just a lazy lie

Tufanja:
Seems it was a dull sunday here in the Non-Christian ChitChat Zone while I worked 12 hours and can use some serious distraction now .

How is everyone?

I was wondering why a black knight would be better than a white knight? Maybe JackBizzle can come up with a valid explanation or just finish his nagging about it. You dey tire me.

Batman is the Dark Knight- a man who surrenders his life for justice!!

White Knight- a man who is a little b1tch that licks the azz of women because he has no self worth

PastorAIO:
Why so touchy? You wouldn't be the only monkey na. Sebi I said that I nearly wrote it myself? Anyway, I AM A MONKEY, and a proud one at that.

What happened to the real PastorAIO?

Reyginus:
Peter how far?

So I'm Peterphd

Shows how dull you are. You really do think that others can't see your white knighting?

KingEbukasBlog:
Do you know that God designed man presciently , in terms of his dexterity etc . I thought about it this morning . Take a look how man made various things - innovations , inventions in areas of technology , arts & craft , sports etc - making a living outta it , recreation , its possible for him to be more creative in those areas etc .

God knew man would get to this level and beyond .

You believe man got his intelligence through luck , right ? So if elephants or goats were the lucky ones would they have achieved the same accomplishments ? What do you think?

God of the gaps.

Evolution will soon explain the nature of the brain.

KingEbukasBlog:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3444419_lol4_jpeg31502378bc9b74ef3855ac5c123c1c07

Why are you just a clown? If you don't understand something, just ask...but then again, you are a christian apologist......your natural position is to demonize anything not christian...

UyiIredia:
. . . and he kills logic for the umpteenth time . . . on to the next.

Will you shut up?

A mad man is talking about logic? You that espouse pesudo-spiritual, pseudo-intellectual nonsense is talking about logic?

KingEbukasBlog:
I have no probs if someone else is not a believer but dont mock my belief and brand yours as rational - if that's the case then we have a REAL problem

Why are you here?

Also, your religion is irrational. Take it or leave it.

cloudgoddess:
You just quoted urban dictionary... that's a reliable source for definitions?

You took the words right out of my mouth

omonnakoda:
Go and play with your little willy you are daft as a brush

Says so much about you.

PastorAIO:
I nearly wrote that in the post you quoted. Perhaps you too have a great mind. Or maybe it's just too damned obvious even a monkey would have thought of it at that point.

You have joined the league of nairalanders that can not give logicboy a compliment?

Why did you have to spoil the comment with the monkey part? Was that necessary?

omonnakoda:
I like dealing with intellectually honest and straight forward people .If you have forgotten go back and scroll through to see how we got here.

You are starting to irritate me.

I told you that all agnostics are atheists.

What is atheism?


[b]atheism
ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/Submit
noun
[/b]disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: non-belief, non-theism, disbelief, unbelief, scepticism, doubt, agnosticism, irreligion, godlessness,

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The above definition is the one you get if you google "atheism definition".

An agnostic does not believe in god because it can not be proven in any way, therefore, an agnostic is still an atheist. There are strong atheists who say there is no God. So we have two major types of atheist- the strong atheist and the weak agnostic atheist.

PastorAIO:
So you are Logicboy.

We are legion for we are many.

Speechless3:
He probably meant no harm but maybe overdid it.

He meant no harm with internal bleeding and blood vomiting?

Where do these brainless people come from?

wiegraf:
Please, take over abeg... You're doing an excellent job

It's always going to be somewhat personal [s](even if it's mostly just playful banter)[/s] between me and that.... that......

I don't even understand why that LB brought him over.....but anyhoo..

Ditto on the anarcho-communist. How is that even possible? Maybe when we're on some star-trek like level of enlightenment but as we are?!

Does she know who LB is?

Also....erm why the beef?

chaosattractor:
Me!

I'm new around here and I like debating. And writing. And eating.

Hello, you pm'd me but my email linked to this account is faulty.

email me @ logicboy01@gmail.com. Thanks

omonnakoda:
The words have meanings, the meanings are in dictionaries and elsewhere. You cannot make them mean what you would like them to mean. We do not need to ask any person just open a dictionary to check what it means .

I gave a dictionary definition of atheism- a disbelief in God.

peterphd:
I know that Jack bizzle is Lb. White Knight? That's because you're kissing female ass and trying to save it.

Reyginus, see your life?

Tufanja:
Sights*
I thought it was you complaining about others demanding additional sexual demands earlier. I no sabi....

#logic reasoning#consistency

Do you know what SMD means?

omonnakoda:
Not Correct bro.

Agnostics say it is not known whether there is God and it probably cannot be known. There position is; it is UNKNOWABLE

Someone presents a device to you and says this is a mobile phone.If another person has one and is on a network you can use it to phone him and talk to him anywhere on earth. That is a proposition that CAN BE TESTED AND VERIFIED> There is no way of testing and verifying God's existence reliably

Atheists say there is no God and they won't change their minds so how are agnostics atheists?

In all honesty I believe th agnostic position is the correct. We do not know and CANNOT know. If we could know we would ALL know and there would be no arguments.

Atheism is a disbelief in God.

If you ask an agnostic, he would tell you that he doesnt believe in god because there is no evidence to say that God exists or not.

johnydon22:
Of course .. For One to be Agnostic one would need to first disbelieve all the God(s) around before agreeing to the undecidability of those claims, that position makes one atheist.

You will see someone who believes in no God but still wouldn't like to be called atheist. . .

People need not address themselves as atheists or so if they find the label hard but it doesn't change the fact.

I am an agnostic atheist and i never leave the "atheist" part when saying that..

Think more likely people are atheists even when they don't yet agree with it or realize it yet.

gbam!!

Straight to the point!

lepasharon:
Simply someone who realizes the delusion of religion

Agnostics and atheists aren't the same

They are the same.


All agnostics are atheists but not all atheists are agnostics

Tufanja:
Jackbizzle always brings out the "stop-card" or the green smileys when he is checkmate. See how he responds to reyginus...acting like he doesnt understand his questions...he just fears to answer the questions because if he should do it consistent with his earlier comments he would be sooooo cornered!

SMD

johnydon22:
Hahahahahahaha teempakguy said this too..

It is the same reason that many womena dont call themselves feminists despite having feminist views. The MRA and religious apologists are good at demonizing labels

lepasharon:
I'm not an atheist o. That's a bad word

/so what are you??