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KingEbukasBlog:
Nope . It could different things to different people . God to me means the First Cause or the Necessary Being whose existence is the reason why anything exists . God to a pantheist is the totality of everything . God to a panentheist is the soul of the universe .

So its not meaningless

But the meaningfulness of atheism with this understanding is elusive , so please can you help me find it ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Do you mean the universe as a whole? If you mean the universe as a whole , then how do you circumvent infinite regress of causes ?

KingEbukasBlog:
You are meticulous about infinite creators and infinite regress of creators' creators . So tell me , how does an eternal universe

1. Preclude the existence of infinite creators which you deem illogical

2. Preclude the existence of God , this time around a mind which continuously interact with the universe to ensure the continuity of its existence from past infinitude .



What then makes a creator , a god ?



This a conjecture , you'll see how from your response to my questions .

KingEbukasBlog:
You reject deification ? Well if you reject deification , then where is the sense in atheism ? Because it is definitely elusive here

KingEbukasBlog:








The ORIGIN of the universe ? This means you accept it has a beginning



Since the universe has an origin , it will definitely have a cause . Why do you reject the pantheist claim that the universe is a deity ?



We are not concerned with the number of creators , atheism is defeated either way . Why can't you see this ?

KingEbukasBlog:
You reject all kinds of Gods . So you are not rejecting the existence , you are rejecting its deification ?

KingEbukasBlog:
If an atheist tells a pantheist "God does not exist " , is the atheist rejecting the appellation of the universe as god or is he denying the existence of the universe because it has been identified by an pantheist as god .

KingEbukasBlog:
I conversed with an atheist on Twitter and he admitted that the First Cause , the creator of the universe exists but he does not accept that it is God . Do we have such atheists here ?

sukkot:
hahaha eons ago. happy sunday to ya

lepasharon:
I remember you with that moniker and sukkot / obadiah battling it out back in the day

spacetacular:
Whats a pm and how is it sent? I am new here so still getting a hang of a lot. The website isnt so easy to navigate .

tintingz:
Well to be honest, atheist, agnostic, deist here made me do research about religions, evolution and science which i did with open mind.

tintingz:
Oh That yeye man Logicboy, thought you have travel yo mars.

urheme:
And i am one of such fool......guy, give your self peace.....religion has nothing to do with the economic situation of Nigeria....some people don't even feels the lacks that you are feeling...they don't even understand why we complain....is as bad as that.

tintingz:
Lol, what was your moniker then?

tintingz:
Close your teeth

lepasharon:
My post didn't mention London did it?

hahn:
Lepa no dey get yansh na

jonbellion:
that's the way bro oo
This Nigeria ehn
I've given up on the country

urheme:
"To Do Charity"
How many of them really engage in Charities

Money is just so involved in religion...and it worries me......what God showed me is different from what most churches are projecting.....God is still looking for a man that will do it RIGHT.

Remove money and material gains from religion....almost all if not all will crumble.

JackBizzle, i am inclined to agree with you....and isn't this what has kept most of us in atheism ...... and despite all these negativity associated with Religion ..... I still maintain that there is a God that shows so much mercy.

the truth is that ...people need not go to religious houses houses to connect to this God.....read the book of Daniel.....there was no record that he was praying in the church.......But some How he Prays regularly and God Reveals deep secret to him.....people fall for religious scam because they are gullible.

JackBizzle, God is real believe me.....I,m Happy I connected to His Powers

hahn:
I didn't even read your comment

Lepasharon, I can actually relate with Jackbizzle o

Exactly what he said

jonbellion:
I just tire for them
I schooled at north carolina but I'm back here for now
But you don't see me going around saying that on every thread.
I hope to leave again for a masters degree soon though wasn't able to do it this year unfortunately
And then try and get permanent residency immediately. This Nigeria na nonsense place
But I'm considering Canada. It's densely populated and it's so large. Even in large cities like Toronto and Vancouver there are a lot of property waiting to be occupied

hahn:
I can't relate either and I live here in Nigeria

lepasharon:
Hmm..can't really relate cos I'm in the UK..

spacetacular:
Say what now? Irresistible what? To prove what? I may be a bit of an "oldie" in age but that's as far as it goes.

A few people have left me befuddled with this talk which were much like yours . However yours doesn't make it any clearer.

lepasharon:
You can.do all these without church, so what's ur point?