₦airaland Forum

Atlantis585:
Look at this one trying to teach me the law. You charge someone to court first and the court determines his guilt or innocence. Now get out of here.

Ogbeni the police act permits warrantless arrest, stop displaying your ignorance. Go play with sand, with your 14 age group outside, you will be notified when it is time for kids but for now fly lost.

cr7lomo:
He will arrest him as police wey e be ...lol damn...alot of Nigerians are just educated illiterates

Lol!! Ur parents need refunds if you go school. So no be police him go take arrest am? Na him go find am go him house go arrest am himself? Ogbeni return the phone to ur elder broda wey don pass 14 you hear?

WhizdomXX:
Abuja, but they don't pay discos to the best of my knowledge.

So na you dey pay Disco subsidy money abi?

Atlantis585:
Nigeriis a very funny country. A minister wakes up and decides to arrest somebody for lack of performance. What happened to our judiciary and the legal system? Hopefully you will also order Tinubu’s arrest for bad performance after Mr. Umoru.

Na judiciary dey arrest? No be when him arrest am him go charge am to court? How some of una dey think self?

Sheuns:
You order for his arrest because you be IG of police or Justice of the federation.

Una go just Dey talk like person wey drink kai kai.

Na you type this thing, or na your 14 years younger broda dey play with your phone?

WhizdomXX:
I'm familiar with the power situation in Delta but When did Abuja start paying discos?

Where is your FG based?

WhizdomXX:
Where do discos collect fat checks from Abuja as subsidy payments?

Band E users in my Area in Delta state haven't witness power for over 6 months now due to a faulty transformer, but The Benin Electricity Distribution Company (BEDC) still somehow sneak in to drop estimated billings, and still collect fact checks in subsidy payments from Abuja for power they never distributed to this users. Na customers supposed to dey repair or install transformers?

efemena5050:
English just to sound so intelligent

English hard I understand.

femi4:
Its like we dont learn from history

Increase in tarrif has never fix power, so it wont start fixing it now

2. You cant compare power to telecom cos of the stages involved, infact we are paying more to the telcos cos of unreliable power supply.

We have challenges with generation, xmission n distribution

I understand your point of view. Yes increasing tarriffs will never fix power, but not paying cost reflective tarriffs won't fix power either. See the ABA power plant for example, their customers are enjoying reliable electricity, they are also paying the true value of the electricity they received.

Reference:
And what will you do if they don't..... because they won't. They will simply shift the goalpost. Just wait and see. There is always a reason.

That's were the government will come in by way of regulation or a power version of Endsars will take place. That time Discos offices go turn danger zones to staffs, because dem go dey collect crowd beating whenever them f up.

femi4:
It will be worse without subsidy. You ll pay more for darkness

That's a valid cause for concern, but I strongly believe it won't. In worst case scenario the service will be poor for the first 1-3 years. But it will definitely improve, because given the high demand for power, foreign investors will likely invest in both power generation and distribution which will lead to competition in that sector, and competition almost always favour the consumer. See how Airtel, Glo, MTN are digging it out, in the telecoms sector, do you still remember any of NITEL, Econet, TMobile, Zain, or even Etisalat? That's how many of these Discos will be forgotten.

Love800:
Okay, thanks so much.

But those on 33 tend to have longer hours of light compared to 11.
That is why i say there is a relation between band A and 33, but the difference is not yet clear to me.

In Delta state people are using line 11, 33 and band A interchangeably even though they are totally different things. You can be on 33KVA lines (Rare I must say) and still not have reliable electricity, if you are not on Band A, same thing applies to 11. Having longer hours of light has nothing to do with line 33 or line 11, it is your band (A,B,C,D,E) that determines that.

33KVA line be like Dangote trailer wey transport cement to your store in bulk (electricity stepdown or power plant). Then line 11 be like pickup Keke or bike wey carry 2-10 bags at once go your branch store or your customer site (transformers, or residential areas) . But if that your customer body full, and him get better road, him fit make arrangements for the Dangote trailer to carry the cement directly to him site. (Industries that use 33KVA lines)

Some companies use 33KVA lines directly, reason why most people call it industrial line a good example is the old Enternit in Sapele that used 33KVA lines to transfer electricity from Ughelli to Sapele for industrial use back then.

Eagleways:
so Howfar with the petroleum subsidy that was stopped.

People like you are part of our problems

It is like you are not getting it, nobody is saying subsidy is bad, but it's current implementation will only bring more harm than good to our power sector. You're just being either sentimental or ignorant of the harsh reality.

Just to let you know, subsidy on petrol was not completely stopped, the government is still secretly paying petrol subsidy till date. The government didn't really deregulated that sector unlike what OBJ did with the telecoms sector.That is why there is no noticeable improvement on fuel cost and our refineries. Are you aware that people bought sim cards for 30K then? How much is same sim card today? That wouldn't have been possible with subsidy.

Love800:
What's the difference between band A and 33?

Been asking this question for a year now but nobody can five me an accurate answer.

If you know, enlighten me please.

Thank you.

Band is the tarriffs category a user is on. See it like those popular MTN tarriffs plans way back then. With Band A you are supposed to be guaranteed of at least 20 hours of electricity daily at a cost of #209.50 per KWA excluding VAT. That means on band A you will spend around #31.45 to power those giant OX industrial fan for 1 hour.

As for 33, and 11 it has nothing to do with your electricity band. 33 is abbreviation of 33KVA lines, these lines carry electricity at a very high voltage (the kind voltage wey go fit use person stone ground die) across cities to a power plant. Then 11KVA lines carry these same electricity from the plant to your transformers. The electricity is then carried to your house. 33KVA, and 11KVA are just electricity transport/distribution mediums. Your actual band (A,B,C,D,E) determines how many hours of electricity you get daily, and how much you'll pay for it

Classic romance scam, he will never run out of excuses to milk you dry of you hard earned money.

WatchYourSix:
Most pple dont band A is currently not on subaidy…?? How can govt be paying subaidy yet some citizens are not benefiting??
The excess of band A (over 170kw per unit) is being used to subsidise band B, C, D, and E… when govt remove subaidy they will increase everybody’s tariff and rob us some more…
My electricity is currently more than my rent … i mean who does that

The excess of band A is not being used to subsidize band B,C,D, E. Discos are collecting the cost reflective tarriffs from band A users, collecting subsidy payments from the government then they give band A users excuses that the government is forcing prices on them, and there are not enough users that pay cost reflective tarriffs, as such they can't provide the cost reflective services band A users paid for. Discos are the ones benefitting from subsidy and still crying foul.

As citizens what we should be more concerned about are:

1)Will the government hold Discos accountable, if after allowing them to charge customers cost reflective tariffs, but couldn't provide cost reflective services?

2)What are cautionary measures are in place to curtail the adverse effects of subsidy removal on the poor and vulnerable?

Wealthyonos:
I wish I could sneak into Afghan, steal one fine banny and bring her to Nigeria to marry. E for sweet

And you think say those women themselves no dey violent? Ogbeni no surprise say na dem go first break bottle or carry knife for fight oh!! Most of them are just being calm because the law is not on their side. Torture and inhumane treatment from their male counterparts has turned most of these women to beasts.

OredoPikin:
These guys and those supporting tinubu
No difference

It is very unfortunate.

OredoPikin:
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U are still a child

I understand your not being able to comprehend my comment, after all English is not your first language. If we check well, you fit never pass 14.

zinowealth:
Una don start again. This govt can never get anything right

Ogbeni believe you me, in as much as this current subsidy structure on electricity exist, there can never be noticeable improvement in our power sector.

tuoyoojo:
How has your life improved with subsidy removal of fuel subsidy

This is a scam

They have increased the tariffs in electricity, how did that improve power

We kick against any subsidy removal

What exactly are we enjoying from the government

Subsidy removal on petrol was a total scam. Even at #1200+ per litre NNPC still spend trillions on petrol subsidy behind the scenes.
But we must face it, the current shambolic electricity subsidy structure is making Discos reap from where they did not sow at the detriment of their customers. They are saying the reason why our power generation and distribution is poor is because the government is forcing prices on them through subsidy. In as much as the current subsidy exists, our power sector won't improve anytime soon. Government should instead channel those subsidy funds into power generation, distribution, and metering let it be like a loan to Gencos and Discos.

WatchYourSix:
lol…. U pple dont even know ur right ..Subsidy is ur right… Its one of the ways the common wealth of a nation is distributed to reach everyone…. Without subsidy, benefits, or other forms of social welfare ur govt is heavily robbing the you

Yes subsidy is our right no doubt about that, but Discos are stealing that right with the current electricity subsidy structure. Customers are responsible for installation, and maintenance of electricity distribution items like poles, cables, and transformers still they won't see the light, but a a Disco somewhere is collecting fat checks as subsidy payments from Abuja, and still crying foul that government is forcing prices on them.

Yes it should be stopped, the current subsidy structure is making Discos very lazy and incompetent. Let's see how they will collect cost reflective tarriffs, without providing cost reflective services.

The only time wey glo browsing preek dey stand for my area na around 2AM - 7AM, anything before or after that na fast and pray browsing.

Very shameful, yet some will still cheer and hail him, some Nigerians mumu no be follow come so?

To be honest politically Ameachi is dead, though not in Rivers state as far as Wike us concerned, no thanks to Wike jaguda and agbero politics styles.

Can this be real? I pity the innocent and naive souls defending and fighting for these terrorists.

nairalanda1 folks like you who always blame others for their woes end up being liabilities to the society. If you have basic comprehension how can a business man who is unable to collect over 40% of his own revenue from his customers continue running such business if he is not stealing from his paying customers? You want cost reflective tariffs but can't even provide cost reflective service, is that not trying to reap from where you did not sow? The problem of Nigeria power is not debts, or non cost reflective tariffs, but rather inefficiency, incompetence, and corruption on the part of Discos. So far Discos have shown that even with a cost reflective tariffs, they still cannot provide electricity for their users.

If according to you, Discos don't have the money to provide cost reflective tariffs for customers who are already paying for it, why charge those customers in the first place? Given your logic a thief has the right to steal food because he doesn't have the needed money to buy food, the government couldn't provide job for him, or he is not being paid for his true worth.

I strongly suspect you googled what a certificate is, because you obviously don't know or own one, even if you own 1, I believe it will be that of you PRI 6 school leaving certificate. Go show our posts to your learned elder brother, if you have one, and if your issue is not hereditary, he will tell you how low you are on the common sense spectrum.