chyz: Playing second fiddle because of a promised from a northerner in an unstabled political party is not playing GOOD politics. PDP will soon be dead in the SW.Look at how many PDP members decamped to the ACN because of the new governors. They left in droves, check the articles.There is no way akala is going to win oyo state the same may apply to ogun, this if if the election isn't rigged. That weakens the name of the "ruling" party of nigeria. The APGA is putting forward great candidates in the SE, at least in Ebonyi and Imo.They are more than likely to win is again, PDP doesn't rig the elections. Also, with the riff-raff thats going on in Enugu PDP, chime is likely to leave if it goes against his way. Then after that happens PDP will no longer be the "ruling" party of nigeria. Now where does that leave your Igbo VP? Have you not seen the articles in which IBB planned to leave the PDP with other northerners if zoning is not honored? What makes you thing that before 2015, time for an "Igbo president" that they wont leave en-masse and not just the northerners? Please think my brother.
may Almighty GOD bless you!!! AMEN!!!
@ mckren
i can not explain it better than what chyz has said! a word is enough for the wise.
chyz: Don't mind that southern subordinate to the north.I guess it still hasn't dawned on them even though Ekwueme himself tried it twice and got the same result.Even though he's trying it again indirectly, i guess 3 is a charm . MC kren, i suggest you stick to turn-tables.
thank you chyz.
McKren: You people need to stop being arrogant for nothing and learn to play politics in Nigeria.
What Ekwueme is doing for Ndigbo is the best, I hope you guys don't realise this too late!!!!
stop thinking like minority! YOU ARE A MAJORITY GROUP LIKE THE YORUBAS AND HAUSAS NOT IJAWS OR EFIK OR WHATEVER!!! you are entitled to the presidency like every other group is. the ijaws have realised this so why don't you i am not trying to play the devil's advocate but stop belittling yourself politically!!!
McKren: I have always said that at the appointed time SouthEast will jump ship and it will begin from Imo State. This news shows that this trend is begining to fall in place.
Why did Ohakim of Imo excuse himself and was represented by his deputy? Why did Chime of Enugu do the same? The reason is simple, they have started their double moves and at the convention they will come out from the shell and truly represent the interest of SE.
Peter Obi is of no political value at PDP primaries, the Anambra PDP machinery is firmly under Ekwueme control.
Martin Elechi of Enugu will at the appointed time jump ship and support the interest of the South East on this issue.
The only Governor I see standing by Jonathan to the end is Governor Theodore Orji and this is for the simple reason that Orji Kalu is waiting in the wings to oust him and Governor Theodore will not want to play games with his support for Jonathan just because he needs to retain his own sit and he Theodore has no Presidential ambition whatsoever.
So guys chill. The Atiku movement in on course in the South East.
And let nobody under-estimate the importance of the VP slot. Remember that if Jonathan did not accept the VP slot in 2007, he will certainly not be President today.
so you prefer the vp slot . how do you people think? can't you go for the presidency? gj was the vp mainly because of mend and the fact that he was from a "minority" group! YOU are from a majority group for GOODNESS SAKE!!! why bend for anyone why are you satisfied with vp position? do you think if we have an igbo vp that would guarantee ndigbo presidency after atiku? . do you not think the political terrain would have changed by then? MAKE YOURSELVES POLITICALLY RELEVANT!!! MO!
mikeansy: I wish these Governors will be respectful enough to tell us that they found Jonathan to be the best candidate Nigeria can ever produce and go ahead to justify their argument with Jonathan's records or his policies.
But this talk of power rotating from SS to SE insults my intelligence because it is not possible under any zoning arrangement in this country.
The only way power goes to SE from SS in 2015 is if an Obama emerges in SE in 2015 and takes the country by storm through his convincing charisma not through any kind of zoning.
i think i would support federalism now because regions prefer to have economical and political independence. the reason i am saying this is that if ethnicity can be involved in why tinapa is not developed then everyone should just control their own stuff abi?
celemel: I've taken time to read through this entire thread. Sadly, so many people don't seem to understand what made Tinapa moribund. I'll attempt to explain the many factors here. Tinapa was concieved as a PPP initiative, primarily funded by a consortium of banks with loans that were to be repaid after some period of time. Funding came from organizations, such as Ecowas bank, Togo, UBA, First bank, CRSG, etc. By design, it was suppoed to be a free-trade-zone, such that every item of trade was to attract zero import duty.
The branding was perfect, marketing was cool and a lot of money went into building the image of the resort. Multinational organizations, such as Shoprite, Flamingo Stores, Clear Essesnce, Vlisco, Woodin, etc were thrilled by the hype that sorrounded the project to come over and rent spaces, and fully pay for same for two years in advance. I was personally involved in setting up IT backbone for most of these organizations. Unfortunately, the Nigerian factor set in. Obasanjo withheld his accent to the proclamation that was to grant full free-trade-zone status to the project. Most of the organizations that paid for space found it difficult to stock up. T[b]hose who tried, were forcibly shut down by the Nigerian Custom Service under the pretext that there was no gazetted documentation, excluding Tinapa from paying duties[/b].
This standoff dragged on for years. Most of the rent paid ran out. The organizations ran huge bills, incurred heavy loses and parked out of the resort. Those who kept their staff in hotels had to scamper to transfer such staff back home. The management couldn't muster enough resources to keep the hugely expensive TV jingles on the air. Tinapa gradually turned to a ghost town , and the fun died. By the time Umaru Yaradua signed the gazette, Tinapa and all the euphoria sorrounding it had completely kaput. That is the story of our dear Tinapa. The blame rests with Uncle Shegge who never intended the project to succeed. The silly fear was, if Tinapa gets the anticipated patronage it was sure to get, the so-called commercial capital - Lagos, especially the ports would have been threatened. It was purely a matter of the Yoruba hegemony! yet, there was nothing to show that Tinapa would have threatened anybody, let alone, any business interest in Nigeria.
thanks for the info but i think you added a bit of paranoia, don't you think? according to what you said, it means tinapa was funded mostly by the private sector and a bit of state government input so it has nothing to do with yaradua or obj. the federal government could have little or no influence on the project. if the custom had a duty, then they should do it without the fear of people. what i mean by this is, if the companies had no document that exempted them from paying duties then they should pay. what do you think?may be i do not understand what is actually going on
so? guy, wetin dey pain you? that the yorubas do not mind where he came from? that is what unity is. the aworis of lagos did not mind! can you say the same thing from wherever you are from (not yoruba or hausa )? you trying to disunite them would only make them come closer so your attempt has failed once again! ARE YOU A FAILURE YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO FAIL
ChinenyeN: Thanks for the laugh Chyz. @ "Nigeria's for everybody"
Anyway, why are people getting on Aloy's case, when he's in fact correct?
no he is not! the undertone of his words was to cause ethnic strife but he is unsuccessful thats why he changed the topic title to avoid looking stu.pid (no offence)
Aloy+Emeka: You are crazy; Tinubu is not Lagosian?; Did you swallow ganja seeds today?. There are no indegenous Ibibios from Rivers state and if you claim to be Deltan, you should know that more than anybody. Rotimi Amechi is Igbo from Rivers state. It only becomes a news if he rules Bayelsa state. Go and study your social studies.
YES! TINUBU IS NOT AN INDIGINOUS LAGOSIAN. i was in nigerian when it was confirmed!
the way you think is a bit strange. for instance, tinubu is not a logosian yet he was the governor. also, rotimi amechi is not pure ibibio or whatever yet he is the governor. an igbo man (forgotten his name) was the commissioner of works in lagos. a yoruba woman was the governor of adamawa.
it is about integration not ethnicity! and as i said earlier, i do not mind the igbos coming to warri. . . . who cares
your are a tribalist and yet you call other people tribalist!!! unfortunately for you, the yorubas and igbo do not want to start another e-war today, ok?!
Aloy+Emeka: When they said they are indigenes of Oyo state and not non-Indigenes, what does that mean to you?. DUH.
weren't some yorubas saying this some few months ago? did they say anything about CLAIMING igbo land? my brother, its all about integration which i most people do not mind!
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nice one!!!!
Blazay: I intend to do absolutely nothing. Not till the Nigerian government bridges that gap between the so called thieving rich and the poor, will such projects mean Jack or Jill to people like myself,
Please. . .I would rather fight for visa to Togo or Ghana where my life is safe from Nigerian police men and the secluded 'come get me i am a rich man' resort.
I have children to think about sir.
Happy jollification. . . my life ain't that cheap.
Blazay: You expect people to travel all the way to CR to buy Gucci watches, when you are safer going out of the country to do just that?
You can't be serious.
I would rather to to South Africa. . . before those kidnappering menders. . . . kidnap and mend your butt for ransom, If you survive the mayhem.
Will not even shop in Lagos. . . not to mention Tinapa in the jungle of Southern Naija.
Maybe in the next 50 years when I am dead.
Good luck bro.
do you even know why they become criminals? its because they have no jobs, its because of the economic starvation that has been imposed on them, its because they have no choice!
making fun of it does not help matters. its because people do not patronise it that's why its like that. why don't you do your bit to help the project?
chyz: Notice how Aloy+Emeka pics one day to bash the yorubas then one day to bash the igbo.He purposely does it to start e-tribal wars. Pay attention to his posts.
Jump start the economy without security and basic amenities.
Like the moo moo Fashola with his GPS project in the slums of Lagos.
Nigerians, with their upside down thinking brains.
i would if only nigerians drop their insecurity and patronise them. the capital to provide security and the basic amenities would come from the revenue generated from tinapa.
about the GPS stuff, my friends in nigeria use it, so it works although not perfectly but it works!!!
Abagworo: Look before you leap for you have made a very ignorant ethnic remark.
Calabar is an Efik city while Port Harcourt is majority Ikwerre-a sub-Igbo and partly Okrika-a sub-Ijaw.(Just a correction)
As for Tinapa,it is up and bubbling.Try to visit and you will not get any space because the accomodation in Calabar and environs is already exhausted.
We should always look beyond this issue of accusing Igbos of trying to claim a place simply because they feel at home wherever they reside in Nigeria.It should have been appreciated as a good step for all Nigerians to follow for this country to be truly united.
true that! i even try to visit there when i go to nigeria!!! . God bless Nigeria!!!
i agree with u but most people are scared of the east because of the cannibalistic tendency and also from this forum u can clearly see how some igbo's think
i think it would have been better and also would have generated more revenue if it was built in abuja
just my opinion
i get you but i think we should decentralise the economic power of nigeria. i know the igbos are very hard working and it would only be good for nigeria.
about the cannibalism, its only some certain areas and it has nothing to do with the wider igbo. also, its dying out gradually!
Ileke-IdI: They're not "taking over". This is why you'll never have Igbos and Yorubas unite when you have imbe ciles like Aloy.Emeka misinterpreting diplomacy. Of course the title is going to cause raucous between the two groups. This is Aloy's main goal on NL. What a shame.
i know my sister . as i said earlier, the igbos and yorubas love themselves too much! even though, they both try to deny this fact!!!
alj harem: wrong, it was in calabar an ibiboi state not for the ss or se
ss(ijaws and itsekiri) already have port harcount although igbos now claim it which i think it is wrong
tinapa is in cross river state
i think they should have built it in abuja and see how it would grow
we should not look at it from an ethnic point of view. instead, lets us try to patronise and develop it. it can only be good for nigeria not bad . it would also reduce the unemployment over there.
we all should try to patronise it because lagos is too congested and abuja should be our capital so we need something in the east and ss. what do you all think?
Politics › Re: S’ East Govs, Others Dismiss Ekwueme’s Search For Atiku’s Running Mate by jason12345: 9:00pm On Dec 13, 2010
i am not trying to play the devil's advocate but stop belittling yourself politically!!!
. how do you people think? can't you go for the presidency? gj was the vp mainly because of mend and the fact that he was from a "minority" group! YOU are from a majority group for GOODNESS SAKE!!! why bend for anyone 
)? you trying to disunite them would only make them come closer so your attempt has failed once again! ARE YOU A FAILURE
