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Sleekyshuga:
Lemme see.. I squat three times in a week (Mon, Wed, Sat), though I do other lil exercises to keep fit.. I do 30 seconds for 5 rounds..

I have two types I do:

• I hang my weight on the air, my arms stretched out, lifting my bum behind with my heel slightly raised..

• I use a stick (a long one), pass it behind, placing it on my shoulder, holding unto it, going down, up...down...up...down...up...

Check on YouTube for videos...

About actualization, it depends... I felt this firmness after 3 weeks.. For now, I am on break (cos of exams & project).. Hope this helps?

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Nihilist:
Sagamite,

You can claim tuition fees as tax deductible expenses.

The caveat is that you have to be able to prove that the tuition is for a course that enhances your ability to carry out your current contract.

Moat contractors will never or very rarely have to defend thier expenses claim to HMRC, so a contractor can just claim his girlfriend's tuition down as a training expense and forget about it.

It's only if and when he has to defend it that wahala dey. And I've never ever heard of a contractor who's actually had to submit his receipts to the taxman for auditing...

Professional exams not tuiton fees for degrees Sir

Accountants for mere contractors don't have access to their clients bank accounts nor credit cards

Contractors that aren't under an umbrella company have to send receipts Sir

olu4life:
But isn't that a silly excuse, she's quite gullible.

Good to hear ur unbiased view.

That's my own point of view and you are free to make yours Sir

IlekeHD:
Concerned citizen...oya answer these questions...

You were part of the crew that shamelessly claimed that coogar was begging behind closed door. You were also part of the crew that coogar will talk to when he's ready to pay the extortion money. SO SIR, YOU'RE NO LONGER A CONCERNED CITIZEN, YOU'RE ALSO GUILTY, AN CRIMINAL IN AN EXTORTION COUP.

I've warned you to stop making unfounded statements. Where in my posts have i mentioned coogar begging in the background

I'm entertaining you because I genuinely believe you want clarity but I won't accept you making wrong assertions

If you feel am guilty of extortion then gladly report me to the authorities.

It's really that simple!

IlekeHD:
So I'm gonna go to the law and say coogar and babe3 defrauded so and so?

Who is coogar and babe3?

Una wey get all the evidence, address, names, bank info etc....God chop una feet? Una no get phone to call cops?


When Babe3 was traveling business class, staying in hotels, decked in designer shoes and bag with cash coogar alleged stole from innocent people, where were you?

Yet you can vouch for guilt/innocence?


And why are you guys hiding posts?

I'm not a moderator

I'm a concerned ordinary member like you and i've done my bit...

You can also add yours

olu4life:
Jaybee3, have a question. Why is it after several months babe3 is just coming out to say this? I clearly remember the thread that started this

Why aren't u also not saying the bitter truth on the issue?

And lastly, why isn't she addressing the issue Coogar claimed she also borrrowed

Both parties are guilty. She was an accomplice. Full stop

I got the feeling that she was genuinely naive and totally clueless to everything that was going down whilst they were dating (That's my own personal opinion and i'm entitled to it)

My personal opinion was validated by the fact that she didn't even know she could report him for the blackmail as it's a punishable crime in the UK.

This was never about retrieving her money from the outset. It was about closure and raising awareness.

I'm not stupid to discard that their might have been some element of revenge from her part but hey i'm involved with this case be ause of the threat since she isn't the only one he has threatened on this forum. I'm sure you know I can't force the victims to come out in the open

Sagamite:
Allowable expenses are quite complex.

The basics are:

- The expense needs to be directly related to your business activies. If not totally directly related to your business activities, you need to calculate a proportion. E.g. using your personal phone as a work phone, you need to calculate what propotion of the line rental and calls are for personal, and which is for work. The work one is tax deductible.

- Some expenses allowed are related to you working off-site. Off-site means working away on a site (lets say, your client's office) from the registered Office of your business for most of the working day (I think more than 4 hours), as long as the period of working at this site does not exceed a 24 month period. If it does exceed 24 months, you have to treat the client's office (site) as your registered office and can no longer claim the away expenses. E.g. You can claim your lunch as expenses if you work at a client site for up to 24 months and it would be tax deductible. If you stay with that client for more than 24 months, the cost of your lunch can no longer be business expenses.

Paying your girlfriend's tuition fees definitely does not qualify for allowable expenses and is not tax deductible.

Exactly my point

Babe3 couldn't have understood all that since that's what was sold to her

IlekeHD:
Don't be a coward by draging sagamite into this.... I'm talking to YOU.

Don't try to convince anyone with shaddy articles and half-truths. You have all the evidence? Take these two aleged scammers and credit card fraudsters to the right officials.

Stop protecting criminals.

What's up with the disrespect?

Don't you dare accuse me of half truths if you don't have evidence to the contrary.

You are also a concerned citizen so do the needful and stop ranting

Nuff said#

IlekeHD:
Abeg oga, this is all noise.

SO IT'S NOW BACK TO ALLEGE?

I thought you guys were so sure that it's her money and that it's her school fees.

You carry gala for your head without even getting the full sides of the story, allegedly claiming that Babe3 is innocent and coogar is guilty.

Sir, you're may also be guilty of coercion and extortion of money from an alleged criminal.....only the court has the legal right to determine who is guilty/innocent and who is being owed money.

Were you there when they were sharing stolen money from stolen credit cards?

So she came to you ba? Why not go to the right authorities since she has evidence? Oh she had? where is THAT evidence?

Who made you judge/jury of NL? And why are you protecting criminals on NL?


cc Seun

You asked questions and i've tried to explain to you at various times but yet you are hell bent on your idiotic campaign

If you are as concerned as you are trying to make us believe then what stops you from demanding for the so called evidence so you can help forward them to the authorities ?

Sh0llypopz:
Quick question. The $4,000 case isn't an isolated incident, is it? He had collected money from her numerous times and promised to pay with his credit card, right??

Is this the first time "his" credit cards refused to work and if it isn't, why is she having an issue with it now? I am not sure I fully understand what is going, so pardon me if my question seem silly. If I borrow someone money and every time I borrow them, it's a hassle to get my money back, why would I continue to do it?

I've answered the question below with my subsequent post

The 4k isn't an isolated incident. The western union transfers started around 2012

Sagamite, abeg help me explain the allowable expenses ish for contractors jare cos that's the koko

Hotels
Rents
Professional Exams

All the above are allowable expense if indeed he is a real IT contractor

However, it's impossible for him to claim such since he can't possibly be working in the UK and having all that expense incurred overseas at the same time

Tuition fees isn't an allowable expense

It's fairly easy for a novice to believe they were genuinely helping when they could have been used to perpetrate criminal activities

IlekeHD:
Did jaybee3 actually said I like arguing?

tele tele nko?

If I see shaddy activities, shouldn't I point it out?

Is extortion not a crime?

If coogar pays without taking this to court, this is extortion and if babe3 collects the money she is also guilty of blackmail. So are will the people egging coogar on to pay are perverting the course of justice.



cc Seun

Extorting her own money that was alleged to have fraudulently taken from her?

You still aren't getting it

The girl alledgedly sent her school fees to coogar so he can use his business account to cut down on his taxes (The plan would have been legit if they were married and she lived in the UK as it's a tax avoidance scheme which isn't a crime)

The issue was he collected the money but then used a stolen credit card to pay the fees which was then chargec back.

She obviously had to source money from other means to make the original payment meaning she lost $4k in the process

Her intention was genuine as it appears she was only trying to help her bf at the time


What part of that don't you understand?

She wouldn't have known the arrangement was all porkies since UK tax system for contractors is a li bit complicated and most times contractors need accountants to break it down for them.

The Arif angle was to perfect the storyline since she was a complete novice

Sagamite:
Dem no born me well for that one.

That one, they will send bailiff to my house, break down the door and take the mat I use as bed and the wrapper clothe I use as pillow to sell to get their money.

I dey pay that one ASAP!

A shey o ti e le
Lool

Sagamite:
Kaa re! (Well done!)

Britico!

Na because you get pikin.

Dis one wey you dey brag sef, why don't you evade council tax so i can take a bow

IlekeHD:
1. Even occured offline 2. Both scammers did their deed offline 3. Justice should have been implemented offline. 4. If you really want to raise awareness, show us legal evidence that showed that these two have been proven guilty and/or innocent.

The whole charade shouldn't have been on NL in the first place. Now you guys are claiming that you're collabing with allege criminals offline? Way to go!

Awareness of alledged scam/crime is different from awareness of a confirmed criminal

Only the court of law can proclaim someone as a criminal but our responsibilities as concerned citizens is to raise awareness of the alleged crimes so other potential victims don't fall for the same scam

I know you love to argue and i'm pretty sure we going to keep going round in circles so i'm going to stop repeating myself

IlekeHD:
People asked for evidence.....are people the legal court in this matter?

Is NL a court?

You opened the thread to raise awareness......shouldn't the first step had been a judicial court? It would have made more sense had you come here with legal evidence.

You guys claimed that you took them both to court, show us that evidence. Stop protecting criminals.

allegations were made on NL and it's not unrealistic for them to demand evidence to substantiate the claims made

They met on NL and the victim has her reasons for choosing to come public with her info. She is not my child so don't expect me to force her

Yes it would have made sense if she was the only victim but she ain't hence the reason for the awareness

Why are you demanding for evidence when you've also dismissed the need to provide evidence?

No one is protecting criminals so stop making false claims

@ilekehd

Stop making unfounded statements as they seriously aren't cool

Now these are the facts:

Babe3 didn't contact me just so she can get her money back

The initial contact was made by myself after she raised an allegation of a threat to leak her nudes in order to permanently gag her. This was the sole reason why i got involved with the case.

We asked for evidence of the threat which was provided alongside other alleged possible crimes that may have occured whilst they dated

In analysing the evidence, we presented the information as is to provide a true picture of what we believe went down. People asked for the evidence as it was claimed some may have been doctored

The thread was opened to raise awareness for other potential victims and have her recoup some of her money back. Basically, the allegation was that she was sending her pay checks to him so as to cut down on his corporation/income tax (that was the reason for the round tripping of funds only for her to find out he was indeed using stolen cards to meet his end of the bargain).
The numerous charge backs has rendered her carless, homeless at some point and of course credit ruined because of all fraudulent activities and missed payments because of lack of funds.

My question to you is, what exactly have you done about it?

I've had curses rained on my son, slandered and had my integrity questioned just because i'm trying to provide some sort of support for someone that may have been otherwise bullied into silence

Check yourself before you start pointing fingers!

Kimoni:


Awon certified UK criminals leleyi oo

But seriously, I don't think any Nigerian pay that nonsense...maybe excluding fully briticonised Nigerians like Efemenaxy and Damiso. It sounds so ridiculous

I've paid that tax for the past 15 years or there about

BoboYekini:
I honestly understand where IlekeHD and TV01 are coming from.
But some of us were here from the beginning and this is not simply black and white. The right thing isn't always the 'right' thing. We Africans are wired differently, and when familiar people err in this fashion we do not arbitrarily throw them under the bus. Now this isn't always correct but it's just the way it is.
Doesn't mean a singular person cannot go on and make a report to the law, but in this case we will not do that as a collective. Which I believe is what Nairaland is.
At the end, the moderators have done good in reaching a resolution. Enforcement is going to be tough of course, but what can I say?

Don't you think we would have conveniently tried to resolve the issue behind the scene if we wanted to hide under the "you don't throw your family under the bus"

The fact that some of the evidence are still on display and the thread still being active suggests no one is trying to engage in a cover up

Why would anyone even expect us to tell them our next moves so they can be mitigated against?

We have made positive progress and it's up to seun to take any decision as he deems fit

IlekeHD:
Read all my previous posts if it will help. I cannot for the life of people repeat the same thing to to different soldier ants.

Am i now a soldier ant?

I read your explanations hence my submission

IlekeHD:
cc seun. I guess we shouldn't want justice on NL anymore?

What exactly are you asking for to be honest with you?

The girl's life has been miserable because of the enormous debt that she managed to find herself in as a direct result of her naivety.

The baiting was done on nl and this thread has hopefully raised enough awareness to put a stop to that.

You can't stop romance scams but only raise awareness about it. This campaign have positively yielded to 2 results behind the scene

Just Chill and see how it plays out!

hottestlesbian:
Idiott, u're d coward here and d day u bring ur real moniker to face ur adversaries is d day u'll be ignored.
But a known slut have no guts to do that.
fool!, u've achieved nothing except wandering on nl sniffing boxers and hating on women u can never be like, so dere's ntn really great about you to be jealous of.
your sluttiness is obvious and it's not anyones fault that u married a 70yrs old man.
useless oloriburuku fellow.
i'm sure ur pusssy can be used to calculate d depth and width of river nile.

I don't even know how you people just make up stories about people you know absolutely fuckall about

The person you are attacking is a respectable married woman that has reached heights in her professional career that most people would dream of

You don't need to be attacking her because her idea of perfect marriage is different from yours

helovesme:
Let's hope he listens.

Why are you such a coward?
Come at me with your real moniker

I've repeatedly asked you fools to post the dirts you have on me but yet you keep attacking me like dogs without direction

I'm a fulfilled and extremely comfortable man with absolutely nothing to worry about

Grundig:
Guys, don't do this. I'm not taking any shots at jaybee. I'm in full support of what he doing. I'm just concerned that for a married man with a child he knows way too much what happens on nairaland.

If he were younger. . .that can be excused. I used to be a troll on nairaland when I was in college and uni with fast internet. I can't do that now. . .family gotta eat!

You don't need to be concerned about me bro as i have a very healthy and active life outta nl.

So here is a lil stat to back my assertion up.
I first registered on nl in 07 and i barely have a lil over 15k posts which in all reckoning points to about 5 posts a day.

I was a moderator in the romance section for years hence why it appears i'm more friendly with the females

I can't even remember the last time i checked out the romance section and if seun's most active section stat which clearly states i'm more active in the politics section is anything to go by then i'd suggest you save your advise Sir/Ma

coogar:
then be a man & lock the thread!
if it's locked, people won't post rubbish about me.

We can't control what people post but we have absolute control over what we post

People will always form opinions but the most important thing in life is to do the right thing.

All that matters is knowing how clear our conscience is.

Do the right thing and put an end to this

Ciao!

coogar:
jaybee..... i have replied you.
take your time & go through the mail. i am going out for lunch. see you in few hours.

ciao!

replied!

coogar:
now you are talking.....

Man to Man advice

Let's both stay off this thread since you've agreed to do the needful.

coogar:
of course, you really wanna help. the kinda help a snake renders to a mongoose. holla my email, abeg. stop this showmanship, you are too old for this.

In the spirit of finding a lasting resolution to this drama, I've sent you the email as requested.

coogar:
fake moniker?
i am surprised you haven't linked this moniker to coogar.

When do you plan to do the transfer Mr?

I really do want to help you so stop mocking about.

helovesme:
lol. jaybee's wayward ways no be today. i used to get pms from him during the old nairaland pm style.

i was absolutely irritated when i found out that he had a babymama and a child which he didnt disclose at the time. i cut him off immediately.

i can deduce from all the gist here that he is married - good for him. i can also deduce from all the gist here that he has'nt changed from his nairaland woman chasing ways or what is it i am reading here about him sending pictures of his privates to a married woman?

Yet another retard hiding under a fake moniker.

coogar:
jesus christ of magodo!!!!



don't put any details in public for me. if you have any common sense, send it to my email. if this account gets compromised by unscrupulous geezers of your ilk, blame yourself. send another account details to my email addy.

Send the payment to that account. I'm not daft to put my main account info online.

wonlasewonimi:
Jaybee Halifax will close your account if this guy wire Arif card into it

I'm a honest hard working man so nothing dey happen.

I want him to try it so i can finally put the handcuff on him