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I am loving this weekend, i no wan check any chart today jor

This is a welcome development and i really think
Gov Fayemi has a good plan for the state,listening to the guy
speak some time back i know he has something to
deliver.
Kudos once again.

bright007:
*only time would tell of wat siasia is cooking.He thinks he does not need osaze in ťĥĕ team.Hope he has got å good resistance should in case ťĥĕ tides turn against him.

I totally agree with u on this, only time will tell.
We dey here dey watch.

Secounded
Corruption is the bane of this country and should be taken seriously.
It should carry death sentence.

A European rift over Greece and mounting risk aversion weighed most-heavily on EUR and GBP on Friday while JPY, USD and CHF led the gainers. We look at the FX implications of the S&P 500 closing lower for the sixth consecutive week.

Pessimism about the US and global economy continues to rise. On Friday, the S&P 500 fell 18 points, or 1.4%, to 1270. Its the first time the index has fallen in six consecutive weeks since 2002 and its the lowest weekly close of 2011, falling below several important support levels.

Its a weak seasonal time for stocks but its also no surprise the declines are coming as the Fed wraps up QE2. We have heard this market described as a whiny girlfriend or a drug addict; it will kick, scream and throw fits until it gets what it wants (more stimulus from the Fed and/or govt) but more is never enough.

THE KICKING AND SCREAMING IS GOING TO GET WORSE and the Fed appears extremely reluctant to come to the rescue. The pressure is going to mount on the Federal government and it couldnt come at a worse time. VP Biden is working through budget talks aimed at cutting trillions from spending in order to get support for raising the debt ceiling. That is precisely the type of growth-stifling news this market hates.

The question is: how much further do stocks have to fall to get the attention of the Federal govt or the Fed? To 1200? 1100? 1000? Even if stocks fall to last summers lows, the FX trades arent entirely straightforward. The obvious buys are JPY and CHF but how willing are policymakers to allow those currencies to appreciate? There may be some upside in USD but the risk is the story may plays out as US growth slowdown rather than worldwide growth slowdown so that leaves USD vulnerable.

The best trade we see that capitalizes on a fall in stocks is short CAD. CANADA IS LEVERAGED BOTH TO U.S. GROWTH AND POSITIVE RISK SENTIMENT. A decline in both will push CAD lower against virtually everything. A trade that maximizes exposure to risk sentiment is short CAD/CHF (this pair is just above the 2008 low). A trade that minimizes exposure to risk sentiment is long AUD/CAD. Timing it is key. The RSI on the S&P 500 is at the lowest since last summers bottom so its not an opportune time to jump into these positions but they are trades we are watching and will share with premium subscribers.

frank_ike:
some people do say that some companies alert traders on when to enter trade if u subscribe with them. how true is this info

Yes thats true and i think i will recommend one of our own in
the house who is also offering such service. Just look for
Meshac on this thread,his signature says it all.

honeric01:
Uhmmm today was not cool, didn't trade but had some orders from yesterday, my SL hit mostly, anyways i am glad i had some damage control on ground, it reduced the losses and i am glad i didn't lose all the profits i made during the week. (Half still intact)

Next week i wait.

I feel you my brother,loosing is part of trading and understanding that one cant be
winning everytime is part of this game.

Kudos to a great achiever of our time.

Yes the old account number is still very much
in use but i think is going to be phased out soon.

very funny indeed.

naijababe:
Na you got it all wrong, Mesh wasn't picking on me, you probably misunderstood him. He was just tryna set me right . Make una no fight eh, see what too much testosterone in thread can cause eh. Def. need more females in here

I totally agree with the portion above,but sha its very
rare to see a lady who trades forex actively the way u do.
Keep it up,Kudos.

meshpips:
Hi all,
a new trade call has been posted on my blog. It is a long on eurcad.
Get the details on my blog.
Happy trading!
Meshach.

@Meshac,
Keep it up man

Naija i hail ooo

I totally agree with this.Its about time FB do something about
this tagging thin abeg.

Email phishing is one thing one needs to be very careful about
i have had not a little experience with this issue too.God help us oo

sentiment rebounded in Thursdays session sending commodity currencies higher and pushing down the low-yielding JPY and CHF. The euro fell on the long-term rates outlook and discord about Greece. The upcoming session features the always crucial Chinese trade data.

A relief rally after six days of losses boosted the S&P 500 by 0.7% and helped commodity currencies. The index fell 4.9% during the losing streak. AUD recovered all of its post-employment losses against JPY and has nearly done the same versus USD.

Trichet indicated a July rate hike by saying strong vigilance but tempered speculation of further rate rises by saying the ECB had not raised its 1.7% inflation forecast for 2012. The euro also fell after Germany reportedly demanded primate sector participation in the Greek bailout, something the ECB continues to rail against. MOODY's ALSO PLACED SEVERAL PORTUGUESE BANKS on review for a downgrade.

A SOFT T-BOND AUCTION pushed up yields and helped USD. A headline detailing that THE FED IS NOW THE LARGEST US CREDITOR, holding 14% of Treasury supply (compared to China at 12%) also pushed up yields.

Economic data was mixed with US initial JOBLESS CLAIMS increasing 1K to 427K compared to the 419K expected. The US TRADE DEFICIT, however, was much lower than expected at $43.7B due in part to a backlog of orders from quake-stricken Japan.

Talk of HOUSING problems in the US failed to sway optimism. The Feds Yellen said the recovery in the sector will be long and drawn-out. Case-Shiller Index co-founder Robert Shiller said a decline of 10-25% in housing over the next five years wouldnt surprise me at all.

Am loving GU, jst got my tp hit

So 1Cor 14 was not a letter for teaching them how to speak in tongues,it was not
to show them the importance of tongues or tell them about tongues but rather to
put order in their midst.
Remember that the church operates in spiritual gifts with ease though they are babes
because the Apostle has to correct them on so many carnal issues.

Now lets study the chapter together .

Icor14:1-4,was the part that if u dont understand it, you will never understand what the Apostle
was trying to pass across. Most people think he is trying to say that prophesy is more important
than Tongues but rather he was just pointing their attention to the usage of the two gifts when
it comes to church service i.e when they gather together to worship.

1Cor 14:4: "He that speak in tongues edify himself but he that prophesy edify the church"

1Cor 14:5 "I would that u all speak with tongues but rather that u prophesy:for greater is he
that prophesy than he that speaks with tongues except he interprets that the church may receive
edification"

The first bold part of verse 5 above clearly shows that the Apostles is not against anyone speaking
in tongues. He even said that he wants all of them to speak with tongues he said " I would(old english
as touching usage) or better still WISH that u all speak with tongues". If he wants them all to speak
in tongues, then i wonder why people are making a big issue out of tongues today.

The latter part of this verse is where most people get it wrong.Firstly,the word greater there is really making
people feel the apostle is comparing the two gifts(tongues and prophesy) but that is not the case.
He was just pointing their attention to the fact that when u come to church service put edifying the
church first.

Imagine a church service you attend and all u see is a service where people come to just display
spiritual gifts.That is exactly what is happening in the Corithians church service, so much disorder
that they get the new comer confused. It is a church that shows so many flow of the spirit but no
order and that was why he was pointing their attention to blessing others in prophecy cos that
is the purpose of church gathering(to bless others).

I want to say this again and again(please take off ur spiritual google),the first part of verse5 shows
that the Apostle has nothing against speaking in tongues, he said "I WOULD THAT U ALL
SPEAK WITH TONGUES". This part is so very clear that is only an insincere person that
will twist it.

Verse 6: shows clearly that he is pointing their attention to blessing others rather than trying
to show off that they can speak with tongues "If i come to u speaking with tongues,what shall it
profit u?.
Verse 6-11 speak in the same light of putting the person first rather than yourself.

In verse 12:"Even so u for as much as u are ZEALOUS of spiritual gifts,seek that u may excel
to the edifying of the church". This verse simply shows that most folks in the corithians church are just
full of zeal and the Apostle needs to point their attention to the fact that they need to put others in
the church first, that as long as u are in the church the edification of the church should come first.

Verse 13 now says that "let him that speaks in tongues pray that he may interpret" to the effect that he
may bless others or edify the church. He lays emphasis on blessing others in the church(i hope i can just
say this over and over again).

Now verse 14-17 makes it clear that the Apostle wants the church to be bless because he points
them to the fact that when we speak with tongues our understanding is unfruitful,therefore the unlearned
or unbeliever is not blessed. So "In the church speak with tongues and with ur understanding(interpret) that
others may be blessed.
Verse 16-17 makes it clear when will give thanks in tongues or sing in tongues we have given thanks well but that
the unlearned may be bless, we need to say it in a language they can understand.

Verse18 says it all: "I speak with tongues more than u all", sometimes i wonder where some folks get the notion
that the Apostle Paul doesn't want people to speak with tongues or the that he prefers prophecy to tongues.
My question is ,if someone is thanking God for what God has done for him can he be against the thing?If someone
is boasting in God about a spiritual gift, can he be against it at the same time?
The man says he Thank God that he speaks in tongues more than all of them(that is the whole church oo)
,yet some people are saying he is against  speaking in tongues.

Praise God the word of God is Final over all,if not some people will just want us to believe what they say.
If u read further to verse 19,you will notice he is still saying pay attention to others in the church by putting them
first. Bless them in a language they can understand but u can continue in tongues when u get home.

To round up all that i have been saying since, it is clear that the Apostles wants them to put order in their service
and to bless others that comes to church.
In verse 39b,he said forbid not to speak with tongues i.e dont stop anyone from speaking in tongues(Praise God).
Verse40: the last verse he conclude by saying "Let all things be done decently and in[b] ORDER[/b]

PS: I will suggest you take your bible(without ur spiritual google and religious mind) to read the whole of chapter14,
then you will see clearly that no where did the Apostle ask no one to speak with tongues but rather he was pointing
their attention to doing things in ORDER and blessing others that comes to service.
WE WIN. PRAISE GOD

The Apostles had to put so many things in place, that was why you will notice
that he had to correct so many issues.
In Chapter 1,he corrected them about being divided between himself,Apollos,
Cephas and even Christ (verse 12).He has to point their attention to the fact that
it is Christ that died for them and that the Apostles are just servants(verse 13-31).
In chapter 3,he called them babes even canal xtians cos their is still strive and envy among them,
(Chapter 3: 2-5).In Chapter 5,he corrected them about fornication and in Chapter6 he talked about
taking their cases to court and the progression continues.

You will notice that he was trying to put so many things in order in that church and no other person
can instruct them other than him cos he is their spiritual father and of course the one that even started
the church in the first place.

Now in chapter 14 where he talked extensively about Tongues,if you take off your spiritual
googles and read it with a clear mind, you will notice he wrote to put order in their meetings.
Like i said earlier Tongues was never an issue of discussion in the early church because it
was not strange to them.
In fact tongues was a confirmation of your salvation,it is what shows that you are now a xtian.
I think i have said that much before quoting from the book of Acts, the whole book of Acts shows us
the importance of speaking in tongues at salvation and how much vital it is among xtians.

So,if Tongues was not an issue to the Church why would the Apostle  say people should not speak in
tongues? Like i said he was writing to the Corithians church to put order in their midst,so that they can be more
effective and productive in their service to God.

Pastor AIO:
I've have waited all day for Jazes to wake up and come and tell us what he means. I am almost at bursting point. I'll still wait a little bit more sha. But when you do come back Jazes can you please explain to me whether or not it is possible to speak english in the spirit. Or any other human language in the spirit. Because you make it sound as if speaking in the spirit must perforce mean speaking an inhuman language.

@Pastor AIO,
Don't be annoyed jare, i really had a very tight schedule since yesterday.
Anyway,back to the topic of discussion and i will quickly answer the above
question.

When we speak in the Spirit, we don't speak human language because 1Cor14:2
clearly say that:
"He that speak in tongues,speak not to MAN but to God cos NO ONE
UNDERSTANDS HIM,how be it in the Spirit he speaks mysteries.

Let me quickly give you a background story of the corinthians church but before i do
that i want to quickly explain what the epistles are.
The epistles are letters that Apostles Paul and other Apostles wrote to the church they
have minister to,most times they are like follow up letters. You will notice that they will always
start with greetings meaning that they have had an encounter with them before.
These letters are not written in chapters and verses,the chapters and verses we have today are
put there for easy understanding. Knowing this really help during bible study cos it allows us to study
well.

Having said that much, the corithains church is one church that Apostle Paul really commended
when it comes to Spiritual gifts because it was very much in operation among them.
In 1Corithians 1:4-7,he thanked God for them and commended that they come behind in no spiritual
gift(verse7). That was why if you study the book of of corithians well,you will notice that it is the only
book where Apostle Paul did extensive teachings on knotty spiritual issues.
He wrote a whole chapter about spiritual gifts here(Chapter12) and he went ahead to write about tongues
in chapter14.

JAZES:
If EU breaks 1.4605,the next stop will be 1.4567 and
then 1.4555. My 2cents

I hope you guys took advantage of the above trade shot yesterday.

Eu was it for me yesterday. Thank God i waited,as in enter
trade,na hin i comot for system come put SL and TP.I come back see say profit don yapa

honeric01:
^^^^

Entry point for me 44xx for EU, 63xx for GU, watching,

honeric01:
na play play o

LMAO

meshpips:
Congrats sis! I was explaining to a friend just this morning that its not all about number of pips.

I suggest that you re-evaluate and think of profit/loss in terms of %.
Let me cite an example:
I went long today on usdjpy @ 79.93 with my SL @ 79.66 (27pips). If I decide to risk 5% on this trade, I would use
5% * 100/27 = 5% * 3.7037= 18.5% of my capital on this trade.
If I make  measly 27pips profit, I get 5% added to my capital.

Now if I come on this self same thread and say I made 54 pips that obviously would NOT sound like a big deal to any trader. Yet if I repeat this feat, compounding daily for 22 trading days, I would have made at least 500% profit.

IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT PIPS SIS, THINK IN %.

Congrats all the same.
Meshach

Well said man well said

gowaga68:
na so we dey see am o,cbn are not regulatin the dollar at all which is a bad sign still in 156 -157.
Am back for good.

No be small thing oo. I still bought yesterday for N158.

If EU breaks 1.4605,the next stop will be 1.4567 and
then 1.4555. My 2cents

honeric01:
News man lol, see as you dey wait for news, well EU and GU are already moving up, but i am having this sentiment that we are going to have a fall (na sentiments o)

naijababe:
If Trichet like make he use hin yansh talk, that one no concern me . I am done for this week, I have reached and exceeded my weekly target of 300 pips.

I'll holla at y'all next week. Off to go and play with my son in the garden

Cant just laughing at una comments.
@Honeric,
I no be full fundamentalist cos i trade technically too.
If u dey follow my post u go notice say i dey give technical shots too

@naijababe,
I dey hail ooo, na u be the real badt gal as i know some badt girls.
Naijababe badt gan, oya tell ur mummy,tell ur daddy say naija babe badt gan.
still singing

JAZES:
All eyes will be on the ECB press conference (12:30 GMT),
as traders await if JC Trichet describes the bank's stance on inflation as "strongly vigillant".
It is fair to expect a higher euro if Trichet does mention these words,
and to expect a weaker euro in the event that they are omitted.

The bold words above are what we are looking out for
today to see if EUR/USD will continue the uptrend or not.
Once that word is mention by the Trichet(The ECB President),
then we should see EU go test 1.4680 and beyond.
Happy Trading

honeric01:
News coming up today, so those who should be careful should be.

I totally agree with you man on this one, check this out:

All eyes will be on the ECB press conference (12:30 GMT),
as traders await if JC Trichet describes the bank's stance on inflation as "strongly vigillant".
It is fair to expect a higher euro if Trichet does mention these words,
and to expect a weaker euro in the event that they are omitted.

Pastor AIO:
When it says they spoke with tongues I believe that it is a language that they were speaking. Not bobobobsibashaka. Come on! I didn't say there was no thing as speaking in tongues. I said that babbling nonsense syllables is not what is referred to but a real language is being spoken. Do you understand what I am saying?

I laugh at your ignorance, it is clear in scriptures that its not ordinary
language we speak when we speak in tongues.
I think it is very insulting for you to even try to box speaking in the Spirit to ordinary language.

Ephesians 5: 18-19 makes it clear that we speak in the Spirit.
Ephesians 6:18 says the same thing.
Jude20 emphasize it.

Mr Pastor, when we speak in tongues we speak in the Spirit and that is expressly clear
in the bible.

I need to rest now, when am fully awake i will give you the background story of the whole book of
Corinthians and i will let you see the foundation Apostle Paul was trying to lay for the corithians Church
in 1CORITHIANS.

PS: Let us learn to read the bible in context because thats the only way you can understand God's word.

@Pastor Aio,
Its obvious you really don't understand the "FOUNDATION"
Apostle Paul was trying to lay and the message he was trying
to pass across to the Corithians Church.

Lets start from the beginning, Jesus said expressly
that the gift of speaking in tongues is for the believers.
Speaking in tongues is our heritage as a christian
Mark 16:16-17 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be
saved but he that believeth not shall be damned.
VS17: And these signs shall follow that believe,in my name
shall they cast out devils,they shall speak with new tongues"

The subject of tongues was never a topic for argument in the early
church, in fact it was a sign that a man just got saved. After the pentecost
experience speaking in tongues becomes a sign of getting saved. You know a christian
by the fact that he speaks in tongues.

The in filling of the Spirit is a way of life for the Church.
In Acts 6:2-4. They chose deacons based on the fact that they filled with the spirit.

In Acts 9:17, we saw Ananias prayed for Apostle Paul and also he was immediately filled
with the spirit as a sign of receiving christ Jesus.
You will notice that Jesus told Paul to go to the city where he found someone who will
minister to him(Acts9:2-6) and that is exactly what he did.

In Acts 10, we saw Peter praying and he fell into trance. Eventually he went to preach the
gospel to Cornlius(who was not saved at that time) and immediately we saw him speak in tongues
even to the amazement of Apostle Peter and others that are with him. Please Read Acts10:30-48.
Please notice that in Acts 10:44-47 that even while Peter is still preaching to them they immediately
starts speaking in tongues.
If u read further you will notice that through out the book of Acts that immediately people
got saved they also speak with Tongues without stress.
Same thing happen in Acts 19 and so on.
Speaking intongues in the book of Acts was never an issue but rather it was a way of life
for the church then.They dont see it as "Babbling tongues" as you ignorantly put it because
they know the importance of praying in tongues.

Kudos Ini
Thumbs Up. I wish all the thieves we have in NASS
will follow suites.
Keep it up girl, more grease to ur elbow girl

Its a very good price to buy EU