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RedboneSmith:
You are still assuming I am Yoruba when I'm not. That reflects a defect in the way you think. "He believes the Ooni is the most likely candidate for the Ogane, therefore he must be Yoruba."

When you are ready to address the bronze works from Benin representing the Ogane’s ambassadors with Yoruba-like facial scarification, let me know. Not interested in this long-winded and deflective response.

Toodles. ✌🏽

you are simply quoting the later articles on this, and not the original article written by the researcher. what do you take me for? you are the one deflecting, and not me. I just explained to you what what europeans did during slavery to justify their actions. they try to attribute any findings to either arab or rome influence in africa. thats why the earliest versions of their contact is more genuine than later versions. because portuguese only came for trading goods before slave even started

i think i have made my point bold and clear. you can believe whatever you want but it will never change the history. regarding the bronze you claimed that is found in Ife. i dont know anything about it. and i have not researched about it. but one thing for sure is the relationship between these kingdoms in the past is very complex. and not the way you see it today due to lies upon lies you told. i told you there is Igbo house in the same ile ife. how do you explain it?

TAO11:
I will be here waiting maybe you will be man enough to help yourself and provide even one tiny shred of evidence to back-up even one line among all these many lines of wishes & imaginations you typed.

At that point, Nigerians & people in general MAY begin to take you serious — to either debunk what you bring as evidence or accept it depending on whether it is an actual evidence, or if it supports the specific wish you brought if for, or both.

Till then, take it easy with the tears. I no wan hear say tears enter wrong pipe & we lost him. 😂

The map you shared is fake. I have never seen that map before. even when you look closely, you can tell that it was edited. but why would yoruba be this desperate. its why im getting angry? does it worth it.

Go and check the older maps of this region by the Portuguese. you will only see benin. later you start seeing calabar, and other shores , then zamfara, owerre (im even surprised about this). Biafra was in cameroun. i still could not find anything about this kindgom of Biafra. which explains what im telling you about the newer maps just copying the old map and adding their own discoveries to it.

the map would have been correct if Benin was mentioned along side Ife. the editor of that map was so desperate to make such terrible mistake its very shameful what a yoruba would do to feel superior. shame

RedboneSmith:
Which one is typical response of a Yoruba man? Are you one of those people here who assign ethnicities to people who disagree with your viewpoint because you don’t believe people are capable of being objective?

Is there any form of evidence you can advance for the “Ogane” being the Eze Nri, other than the reference to the east by two (not many, as you claim) Portuguese writers? If we are to take the Portuguese allusions to “east” as being literally accurate, is Nri the only important centre of culture and ritual east of Benin? Is Idah not east of Benin? Was it not also an important centre of culture, ritual and influence? And did not some historians actually postulate that the Ogane may have been the Attah? (I don’t think he was, but that’s not the point - the point is that the Eze Nri doesn’t necessarily fit the bill by being east of Benin.)

We actually have bronze works made by the Benin that represent the ambassadors sent by the Ogane to Benin. They all have cross pendants on their necks. Cross pendants are mentioned in the Portuguese writings and are linked with the Ogane. The ambassadors also have tribal marks which are similar to tribal marks found among some Okun-Yoruba groups.

See a representation of one of Ogane’s ambassadors here. Note the cross on his neck, which were alluded to several times by the Portuguese in relation to the Ogane. Does this look like an Nri man to you? Did any Igbo group ever use this type of facial marking?

I replied the way i did because of how you replied me. You did not give any reasons why it should not be Eze NRI. You said "abeg dont add igbo to this Benin and Yoruba matter" what kind of statement is that?

Igbo stock are the oldest in this region. So why do you always bring up your Ife of yesterday?? its very appalling. It is not Attah of Igala because Eze Nri also crowns Attah of Igala, just like he does with Benin Kings. Your stinking superiority complex will never allow you to read anything about Eze Nri. Ogane ins benin is a title. it means the great one. it is not specific to anyone. any king can be referred to as the great one. Ask beinn people about this. Why did your yoruba fake writers in the later version made sure to write ogane na uhe? when it was not mentioned in the first account. it is very embarassing and thats why im calling you guys out. Beside note that europeans were always trying to attribute any discovery to themselves. they will find a way to shift it to ife and befor you know it, they will shift it to mali, and from there to the arabs. thats how you will lose what you invented in africa. they used lots of yoruba writies to do this. also they told nri people that they are from Israel juts to discredit how old there civilization was.

Also reread the direct word from the author. He said Inhabitants of this region (he is talking about multiple sources). Im sure he himself wanted to make sure the direction each person he asked the question was right, therefore he kept asking different people he met in Benin at the time of the report.

I did not just conclude that its Eze Nri, rather I used igbo calendar days (moon calendar) to decipher this. Many Igbo researcher don't really care about this statement. If they did, they will even prove this beyond what i said. Even there is Igbo house in Ile ife meaning that Eze Nri may have done similar thing in the past there. Also Eze Nri himself said they perform this religious task for Benin in the past. Ask yourself where the so called founder of Benin died? where do they pay homage? obviously not Nri, but its in these same area and not to the west of Benin.

If it was not Ezeh Nri, then why do Benin still practice Nri culture of four market days, as well as Igala. You can deny and rewrite history as you want but the traces will there.

Oromiyan conquered both benin and Ife. yoruba its not from this area. They migrated from West. thats why you have huge number of them outside Nigeria borders. They got to Ife through war. thats why the name doesnt sound yoruba but rather igbo/igala. the further you go west, the more the language of yoruba is more prominent, proving that they only corrupted the language of those to the east of them.

in fact benin original language is like that of those from igbanke and anioma. politics is very bad. first is they start to add letters to there word and will keep pronouncing it differently. but if you breakdown the words, you will be shocked at what is going on. igbanke name for instance was igbo akiri. ibuzo was igbo bi na uzo.. even we are witnesing this first hand from ikwere just after the war in 1970. they started adding R prefix to all there words. umu changed to rumu.

its very annoying because i dont understand why people like to falsify history. and the young ones are falling for it. you dont have to be igbo because not everyone called igbo is actually igbo. igbo is jus ta general name for the group.. it doesnt mean they share same ancestor. benin,ibibio, igala and igbo are same group of people. but yoruba and ijaw are different from them, but dont allow people change your own history for peanut. Benin mornach is of yoruba, but the people are not. although oromiyan arrived with his amry from ife and they settled there. also benin had lots of slave villages. lots of immigrant there

TAO11:
Dummy, there was no Nigeria or southern Nigeria at the time of the map you attached.

The coastal/near coastal places annotated on the map are those with whom the Europeans are acquainted by virtue of significant trading activities. That’s all.


On the other hand, my much older map which shows the Latin annotation “Regnʋm Orgʋene” (The Ọɣọ̀nẹ’s Domain) shows no mention of Benin, Biafra, or any of the other Yorùbá kingdoms.

This map has nothing to do with trade relationship as the seat of the Ọɣọ̀ni (Ọọ̀ni) is not around the coast.

This map (by Martin Waldseemüller, 1513) intends to highlight the relevant regional powers at the time.

And Ifẹ turns out to be the regional power at the time. Benin, et al. apparently agrees to this information as this map abundantly shows.


That’s the actual point I’m making — that is, the level of how all the coastal/near coastal kingdoms (+ your Benin) submit & surrender to the overlordship of the Ọọ̀ni of Ifẹ.


It is very satisfying how I made you distance yourself from your @gregyboy account.

That’s exactly how it should be. Bini mugus must deny their accounts and their origin whenever I show up.

You actually wish to have an Oǹdó blood in you. You knew that Oǹdó palace traditions recognize Ifẹ as the origin of the Oǹdó kingdom.

You’re therefore desperate to associate with Ifẹ. Keep dreaming. But you remain a Bini slave of the present Ọmọ-n-Ọba and his predecessors who are all our sons from Ifẹ̀ (ibi tí ojúmọ́ ti ń mọ́ wá).

Cheers.

Yoruba stop spreading fake news. You guys are shameless. the map is fake and you know it. have a little bit of shame for yourself. The earliest map of poturguese about this area always show benin because thats who they met, and all other maps copied olders ones with new additions. YOu can never have Oni of ife mention without having beninin the map. and im not benin man. You guys have to be honest. Stop al this lies. Even oyo empire waas establiushed after oromiyan conqurred benin.

deceit is in your bloods. lying with no shame. only gods no the lies you guys have told since you were the first to start rewritting these history.

From ife to ibibio in southern nigeria was occupied by igala/igbo/igodomidogo/ijaw subgroups. they are same people except for ijaw. the yoruba of today comprieses of Mali immigrants from Timbuktu and other empires from there. They mixed up with these Igodomigodo stock in western Nigeria and corrupted there language. Thats why you share similar words but speak different language, different tone, different taste.

RedboneSmith:
Abeg, don’t rope the Igbo into this Yoruba-Benin mess. We are already dealing with a lot in this country as it is. Nri is not the only centre of influence located east of Benin. Idah is also east of Benin, and in fact there are a few scholars that have suggested the Ata Igala at Idah as a possible candidate for the “Ogane” ( for example, Thornton).

The Ooni of Ife in my opinion remains the most likely candidate - the reference by the Portuguese to an eastern location could be the result of communication barrier between the Europeans and their Edo informants.

r
typical response of Yoruba man. Even Eze Nri does same to Attah Igala. The story is very clear. Remember, not just one person said this to the Portuguese. It says the inhabitant of this region (multiple sources of people living in Benin at the time).

And why was Ife not mentioned in the statement? I just proved to you that it was Nri king. History of benin and ife is about Oromiyan conquest of Igodomidogo. Its not Yoruba history. Its between Ife and Benin.

And you dont even bother to read about Eze Nris and what they do. They are spiritual leaders. They never conquered a land. It was always peaceful. many of these lies you guys portray will be exposed once more Igbo people start taking history serious.

I don't really want to tribalistic because at the end we are all one big family, but Yorubas like to change history. In the later articles, they try to find a way to insert ogane na uhe. Something that was never mentioned.

the igodomidogo, igalas and nri igbos are from one family. they are same people

samuk:
It is now beyond doubt that the Benin/Ife connection is nothing but political. This connection came into existence after the end of Benin empire/kingdom in late 1890s.

There is absolutely nothing in Benin previous history that connects Benin to Ife by way of customs, tradition or history.

Europeans started visiting and writing about Benin since the 1400s and not once did they experience Benin having any connection with Ife. On the other hand, by the 1500s and on one of the Europeans numerous visits to Benin, they witnessed the Benin Ida war, said in Benin history to have started by Benin chief/s who created misunderstanding between the Attah of Igala (who was must likely a Benin descendant) and the Oba of Benin. Traditions had it that Benin dynasty was in Ida for almost 200 years, early 1500s to late 1600s.

If there was a Benin dynasty in Ida at this period, it makes sense and will not be out of place that there was also Benin shrine/s in Ida in the same period. So sending messages to the chief priest of a Benin shrine in Ida to inform him of the installation of a new Oba in Benin will not be out of place as documented by Europeans in the Ogane part of Benin history.

The old Benin empire/kingdom had several of such shrines. There are still several shrine in present Edo south senatorial district.

Example:

It's generally accepted that the annual Igue festival starts with Oba, then the princes and Princesses and the general population. In reality this is not the case. The Olokun shrine at Urhonigbe celebrates the Igue festival before the Oba of Benin.

The fact that Olokun N' Urhonigbe takes preeminence in Igue festival celebrations does not elevate it above the Oba of Benin, people like yourself who doesn't understand Benin traditions and customs will mistake this simple example as the Olokun N' Urhonigbe is superior. Benin sending a message to a Benin shrine, East of Benin in ancient times to inform the chief priest of the installation of a new Oba in Benin does not makes the chief priest superior to the Oba of Benin.

Throughout Benin history, all Benin shrines, gods and all known Kings have always be inferior to the Oba of Benin who was seen as God in human body or God's human representative on earth before 1897, some still believe this to be true.

The Europeans themselves witnessed in 1826, how the Alaafin, king of the entire yoruba people (kingdom/empire) relied on the Oba of Benin military superiority to keep his yoruba people in line.

Ogane written about in Benin history

The Ogane mentioned in Benin history was said to be located in a direction East of Benin, the closest location that matches the description of Ogane which Benin had a relationship with at this period of Benin history, late 1400s or early 1500s is Ida.

There is nothing in Benin history linking Benin history to present day Ife, Osun state which is geographically located West of Benin, a complete opposite direction from what was written down by the European who visited Benin. The direction and description doesn't fit the location of Ife in Osun state and there is nothing in both yoruba and Benin history to suggest that Benin had anything to do with Ife during this period of 1400s, 1500s, 1600s and 1700s, in fact Ife, Osun state was not mentioned in connection to Benin history until 1897. Some still believe this to be true.

The description of the messager with whiskers that was sent to Ogane as depicted in Benin artefacts matches similar Igala artefacts.

Further evidences dismissing Ife Osun state as Benin ancient Uhe.

Benin traditions agrees that a Benin prince Ekaladerhan who they believe became Oduduwa went to Ife after being banished from Benin.

The Benin Origin of this Benin prince has never been in doubt in Benin traditions, for the avoidance of doubts two successive Oba of Benin have repeatedly made this point clear.

There were no mention of Oduduwa, Ife and Oranmiyan in Benin history between 1400s to 1897, when independent Europeans eyewitnesses documented Benin history.

Even early Yoruba writers such as Ajayi Crowder who returned to Nigeria around 1840 and wrote for several decades until his death in 1890 never wrote seeing Benin having any relationship with Ife.

If Benin had any connection with Ife as late as 1840 to 1890, Ajayi Crowder would have undoubtedly witnessed it and written about it.

Between 1840 to 1888, several burial and coronation of Benin Oba took place in Benin, if Ife had participated in any shape or form, Ajayi Crowder would have documented it.

Benin/Ife connection was the brain child of Samuel Johnson in 1897. No yoruba writers before him connected Benin with Ife.

Benin/Ife connection is a political fabricated story that started in 1897. The very fact that very senior Benin Palace chiefs laughed at the previous Ooni when he quoted Egharevba to support the yoruba position, should have been a clear indication to the yoruba that the Benin traditional council have more facts than they are willing to reveal.

Due to the obvious political and cultural benefits that accrues from it to the Benin traditional institution, there is no need to cause more damage to it than have already done, especially with the fact that millions of yoruba like yourself desperately want it to be true.

After thorough research, it appears that the Portuguese accounts likely referred to Eze NRI rather than Ile Ife. Initially, the narrative specifies that the journey was 20 moons walking days to the East of Benin. This calculation is straightforward; 20 moon days equate to 24 hours multiplied by 20 days. Additionally, considering they wouldn't be walking continuously, an estimated walking day might involve around 10 hours of travel before resting. Thus, the distance covered to the East amounts to 20 days multiplied by 10 hours of walking per day, resulting in approximately 200 km. Confirming this, a check on Google Maps reveals that the walking distance between Benin City and Nri ranges from 197 km to 207 km depending on the chosen route.

Interestingly, the distance from Benin to Ile Ife is also similar. However, Ile Ife is not situated to the East of Benin but rather to the North-West, unlike Nri, which lies exactly to the East of Benin city. Moreover, the article in question focused on a spiritual leader rather than a political figure, drawing comparisons to the Pope. Later European observers noted Nri's spiritual influence over numerous kingdoms, emphasizing their mutual independence rather than subordination to one another. This understanding is widespread in the Anambra region regarding Nri's spiritual sway, characterized by a lack of political conquests and a commitment to maintaining autonomy.

Based on this research, one could conclude that any community practicing Nri culture might be considered part of the Nri kingdom, as in ancient times, they saw themselves as unified under Nri's spiritual leadership.

Lastly, regarding the orientation of maps, it's worth noting that prior to the age of discovery, maps were commonly depicted with South at the top, following the conventions of ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. However, during the European age of discovery, maps were reoriented with North at the top, reflecting the dominance and perspective of European explorers. Through my research, it becomes evident that by this time, the Portuguese were indeed using maps with the North at the top, aligned with the current convention.

After thorough research, it appears that the Portuguese accounts likely referred to Eze NRI rather than Ile Ife. Initially, the narrative specifies that the journey was 20 moons walking days to the East of Benin. This calculation is straightforward; 20 moon days equate to 24 hours multiplied by 20 days. Additionally, considering they wouldn't be walking continuously, an estimated walking day might involve around 10 hours of travel before resting. Thus, the distance covered to the East amounts to 20 days multiplied by 10 hours of walking per day, resulting in approximately 200 km. Confirming this, a check on Google Maps reveals that the walking distance between Benin City and Nri ranges from 197 km to 207 km depending on the chosen route.

Interestingly, the distance from Benin to Ile Ife is also similar. However, Ile Ife is not situated to the East of Benin but rather to the North-West, unlike Nri, which lies exactly to the East of Benin city. Moreover, the article in question focused on a spiritual leader rather than a political figure, drawing comparisons to the Pope. Later European observers noted Nri's spiritual influence over numerous kingdoms, emphasizing their mutual independence rather than subordination to one another. This understanding is widespread in the Anambra region regarding Nri's spiritual sway, characterized by a lack of political conquests and a commitment to maintaining autonomy.

Based on this research, one could conclude that any community practicing Nri culture might be considered part of the Nri kingdom, as in ancient times, they saw themselves as unified under Nri's spiritual leadership.

Lastly, regarding the orientation of maps, it's worth noting that prior to the age of discovery, maps were commonly depicted with South at the top, following the conventions of ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. However, during the European age of discovery, maps were reoriented with North at the top, reflecting the dominance and perspective of European explorers. Through my research, it becomes evident that by this time, the Portuguese were indeed using maps with the North at the top, aligned with the current convention.

After thorough research, it appears that the Portuguese accounts likely referred to Eze NRI rather than Ile Ife. Initially, the narrative specifies that the journey was 20 moons walking days to the East of Benin. This calculation is straightforward; 20 moon days equate to 24 hours multiplied by 20 days. Additionally, considering they wouldn't be walking continuously, an estimated walking day might involve around 10 hours of travel before resting. Thus, the distance covered to the East amounts to 20 days multiplied by 10 hours of walking per day, resulting in approximately 200 km. Confirming this, a check on Google Maps reveals that the walking distance between Benin City and Nri ranges from 197 km to 207 km depending on the chosen route.

Interestingly, the distance from Benin to Ile Ife is also similar. However, Ile Ife is not situated to the East of Benin but rather to the North-West, unlike Nri, which lies exactly to the East of Benin city. Moreover, the article in question focused on a spiritual leader rather than a political figure, drawing comparisons to the Pope. Later European observers noted Nri's spiritual influence over numerous kingdoms, emphasizing their mutual independence rather than subordination to one another. This understanding is widespread in the Anambra region regarding Nri's spiritual sway, characterized by a lack of political conquests and a commitment to maintaining autonomy.

Based on this research, one could conclude that any community practicing Nri culture might be considered part of the Nri kingdom, as in ancient times, they saw themselves as unified under Nri's spiritual leadership.

Lastly, regarding the orientation of maps, it's worth noting that prior to the age of discovery, maps were commonly depicted with South at the top, following the conventions of ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. However, during the European age of discovery, maps were reoriented with North at the top, reflecting the dominance and perspective of European explorers. Through my research, it becomes evident that by this time, the Portuguese were indeed using maps with the North at the top, aligned with the current convention.

After thorough research, it appears that the Portuguese accounts likely referred to Eze NRI rather than Ile Ife. Initially, the narrative specifies that the journey was 20 moons walking days to the East of Benin. This calculation is straightforward; 20 moon days equate to 24 hours multiplied by 20 days. Additionally, considering they wouldn't be walking continuously, an estimated walking day might involve around 10 hours of travel before resting. Thus, the distance covered to the East amounts to 20 days multiplied by 10 hours of walking per day, resulting in approximately 200 km. Confirming this, a check on Google Maps reveals that the walking distance between Benin City and Nri ranges from 197 km to 207 km depending on the chosen route.

Interestingly, the distance from Benin to Ile Ife is also similar. However, Ile Ife is not situated to the East of Benin but rather to the North-West, unlike Nri, which lies exactly to the East of Benin city. Moreover, the article in question focused on a spiritual leader rather than a political figure, drawing comparisons to the Pope. Later European observers noted Nri's spiritual influence over numerous kingdoms, emphasizing their mutual independence rather than subordination to one another. This understanding is widespread in the Anambra region regarding Nri's spiritual sway, characterized by a lack of political conquests and a commitment to maintaining autonomy.

Based on this research, one could conclude that any community practicing Nri culture might be considered part of the Nri kingdom, as in ancient times, they saw themselves as unified under Nri's spiritual leadership.

Lastly, regarding the orientation of maps, it's worth noting that prior to the age of discovery, maps were commonly depicted with South at the top, following the conventions of ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. However, during the European age of discovery, maps were reoriented with North at the top, reflecting the dominance and perspective of European explorers. Through your research, it becomes evident that by this time, the Portuguese were indeed using maps with the North at the top, aligned with the current convention.

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I need help am tired of been single

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24yrs it's the right time to focus on your career. Girls will only delay and spoil your future...
And once you Bleep 1, you are gone.. she might be the 1 to give you badluck in life..
So thank ur God that you havnt met one till now.. Most guys are like you but pride wont allow them to say it..

she want your attention but if you are not interested, report her to her parents before any action. act like she don't exist, and the whole thing will stop

Who noticed that IGBOS were missing

Nigerians claim to have brain whereas the brain is dead. A nollywood actress from any part of the world is qualified for any nollywood award.

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Make them no go marry. Dreaming for don jazzy to marry them. Vry ba mentality. You won't decide for him to marry. If you like don't listen to his song.. he doenst know you.. Sometimes I feel same.. like I won't marry in this world.. I'm not ready for stupid drama... Even when you have baby mama.. she will continue giving you headache..

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maureensylvia:
am Igbo

am anti Biafra

The he goat NNAMDI KANU is a scam who must have been paid heavily to whine mouth anyhow, u all know when war starts which we don't pray for he will fly out leaving his ipob

lemme ask y will Dia ever b unity when in Igbo we have IPOB, MASSOB, OGHANEZE NDI IGBO, lolz everybody wan chop national cake.

we Igbo's in north are against ipob!!!


nobody should ever tell us to come back home cos we have made enough investments here which eventually if we come back will be eaten by gullible Igbos

don't b surprise that those telling us to come back home are those depending on us for feeding. I tire ooo

I believe Dis ultimatum will b resolved before 1st October

I stand with ONE NIGERIA

I don't think you have experience anything in life. I'm an IGBO, I also know how wicked Igbo people are...
I can tell you that all this people want is to head and organisation, Ministry, Union etc. We love Power alot....but there is nothing like 1 nigeria. We are suffering because of few Igbo ppl that sold us out. Restructuring is good. but if we can wipe away all the politicians and ban the use of the word, politics and study of the course in universities, it would be best.

asdfjklhaha:
So you men that go to night clubs, and rubbish yourselves with hundreds of girls and come back with lots of STDs who do you expect to marry you?

Why are Nigerian men so hypocritical in nature. They sit and castigate anything girls do when they themselves do worse.

If you detest clubs then stop going there. Leave the girls there for men who want to marry them.
And for the records, I don't go to clubs.

because you girls love those guys.. okay.. You like fun and hate truth.

john4eal:
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pacespot:
That Madrid team could have beat Juve without cr7, take for instance, the Portugal in euro final against France. Unlike Messi contribution to Barca in champions league finals. But I know cr7 will want to claim all the glory. Modrick is more important in that Madrid squad than anyone

In addition to Casemero, Cavarjan and Marcelo.They won the match yesterday..