pryme: i believe you are not a religious person so lets leave religion out of it, I started this without religion and i intend to keep it that way. Am sure you are well aware of the a lot of freak of nature, snakes with 2 heads, people with 6 fingers, co joined twins, people without a nose.... the list goes on, so should i call these people normal because they said so? I want to ask you a direct question, is having both male and female genitals in one body normal?
Normal and natural do not mean the same thing.
A hemaphrodite is a natural trans person A crossdresding man who chops off his penis is an artificial trans.
When it comes to defining normal, it is quite tricky. It is dependent on culture and time.
Did you know that in olden times, a 6 foot person was an abnormal? A giant! People were shot then.
It is easy to say that a person with six fingers is abnormal because they are a minority. Do you know that it is now abnormal to have 32 teeth? Most people nowadays don't grow the last teeth at the back.
So, if you define normal, as what the majority are, then fine, gays, trans, six fingers are all abnormal. But as shown, it is a shaky definition.
pryme: The way i address this is not going to go down well with the trans, and this where they will have to accept the reality or jump off a cliff.
lets say if a trans compete in a male category sports lets say in the MMA and he gets beat up badly because his testosterone is not of the same level with a normal man cos of the trans biological make up, it will not be fair for the trans to compete here because of the unfair advantage the male contenders will have over the trans.
Now you say ok since the trans cant compete in the male category let the trans compete in the female category of MMA, the trans goes in there and beats up the female contenders cos the trans testosterone level is higher than that of normal woman.
so where do you now place the trans? they are neither here nor there. what do you call people like this? do you say "honey fvck what people are saying you are a girl with a diick you are normal" or do you tell the truth that they are a rare case?
even my kids will have the truth raw from me straight up, its better to have a clear sense of what is normal than to create an illusion that will even hurt them the more when they realize the truth from someone else.
The case of treating people with dignity has always been a problem with humans thats why we have wars, but you cant demand a person to call you what you are not, that will be more like imposing your self on them, thats why i said they will have to jump off the cliff if they dont like being called what they are.
I'm not talking about transgender or sports. There has been a ruling that has solved the issue- at acertain level of testosterone, you will be banned from entering womens sport.
Stop trying to twist the issue. I am talking about hemaphrodites- how do you then see it? This is because, they are gay no matter what gender they choose to love.
Now, they were clearly born that way, so you cannot claim that its unnatural. Now you have a conundrum, you cannot even say that gays are unnatural once you accept that logic.
And if one is coming from a religious view, then it would be questioning God because he created hemaphrodites. Does God create unnatural things? Hmmm
pryme: so a freak of nature should be accepted as normal is that what you are implying? Fine let people that are born with disabilities compete with able bodied men in sports cos they are "normal". Let blind kids be given the same kind of education like the other kids because after all the blind kids are "normal". should i go on?
I fail to see the point you are making. All I am saying is that a hemaphrodite should be treated with dignity as a human being.
You say that such a person is a freak of nature. God forbid that you have a child like that. Would you say that to his/her face? A freak of nature?
Hemaphrodites actually bring an interesting nuance to the gay rights discussion. A hemaphrodite is gay whatever gender they choose. This is of no fault of their own. So how do you then address this?
pryme: Still does not equate to being a ret@rd, It's a ret@rd that thinks a man's asshole is the best thing that ever happened when it comes to sex. It's a retard that need artificial lubricant like KY before they can shove their dick inside a hole whose mean biological function is to pass out waste products.
The problem now is that the ret@rds are not flying the flag of ret@rds, instead they are flying the "we are normal flag", herein lies the problem.
The 2 instance you spotted up there are not even close to defend abominable products like your ret@rded cousins.
One is about respect something your western society can't instill in their kids, The second is about politics something you have little or no knowledge about.
If I had my way, I would give your gay cousins a country of your own, there will be no women only men. You will stay away from the straight people since they are not enlighten like you. If you want to make babies to extend your lineage you will use men for that. We the foolish ones will try to make babies the old fashion way.
alexistaiwo: Hypocrite, the 15pages plus you used in debating this issue continously for more than 50hrs was necessary and didn't cluttered up the thread?
BetWinners: You have done well on this thread.My problem is not only the gay issue but the whole lgbt.They are trying so hard to sell this nonsense as the new normal & it will not happen.The clip below shows a male British comedian on that foolish Trevor Noah show who calls himself a 'Straight Transvestite'.Do you know how many africans watch that show because of Trevor the south african?That is the filth they are trying to normalize among us.E no go work
KoiceReloaded: A strong case can also be made for Alien, Star Wars (1979), Aquaman and Abyss. and yet I am not particularly impressed by their respective VFX. It's boils down to personal preference.
alexistaiwo: JeromeBlack, @bolded, she just literally called you a useless jobless busybody
What says you?
I am not affected by Yoruba insults.
In fact, there have numerous times when I have trolled people who insulted me in Yoruba. I smile and point to my ears then say "ogbo Yoruba" in the best igbotic accent ever. There is always laughter from bystanders when I do it.
KoiceReloaded: 10 BEST VISUALLY STUNNING MOVIES OF THEIR GENERATION
- Avatar: James Cameron has made it virtually his job to elevate the technology of CGI, and with "Avatar" he set a bar that is yet to be surpassed. - Jurassic Park (1993): This CGI used in this movie was so well ahead of it's time that it can still pass muster even today. - Lord of The Rings trilogy: The visuals were an incredible elevation of the technology. - 300: This Zack Snyder-directed movie showed how to bring a new aesthetic to the action genre. Unsurprisingly, it's been imitated countless times. - Matrix: The visuals were very unique, and have changed how action movies are shot now. - Avengers: Infinity War: Stunning visuals. A gold standard for superhero movies - Alita: Battle Angel: Another James Cameron footprint. He may not have directed, but his technology was used. - Terminator: Judgement Day: James Cameron used this film to change the game on what CGI characters could do in a film. - Edge of Tomorrow: With a whole lot of destruction-focused CGI, this film was very visually dazzling. - Minority Report: Spielberg used CGI in this film to present a future involving technology that would likely be in our lives decades later.
alexistaiwo: Most of the time, I antagonise you out of habit because after all said and done, you are still one of the most stupid persons around here.
Wetin concern me with this issue? Since I am feeling charitable this afternoon, let me indulge your foolishness.
I didn't join in the argument because any educated person knows that there will always be people in the other line of the homosexuality divide, so it is futile trying to force your perspective down the others throat.
Unlike your hardcore brand of atheism, I am a free thinker. I am the most enjoyable person to try to convert to your religion because I will listen to you and go ahead to tell you why I can't follow your god.
I like Jesus because his teachings make sense but you can never catch me praying in his name.
I detest Prophet Muhammad (SAW) because of his intelorance and radical teachings.
I like Buddha for his live and let's live approach to life.
I like Zeus, Odin, Thor, Athena and Sango and countless others.
Yet I worship none.
I have some male and female acquaintances I have strong reasons to believe they are gay and I have some who are open about their sexuality. That has never influenced my dealings with them.
You can fvck whatever gender you want and worship whatever you like as long as you stay out of my way and business.
Beorn: Let me tell you a story. Real shit_. Not kidding.
When I became enlightened and decided not to follow the hordes of intolerant bigots hating on gays, one day we're about 10 guys gisting, then somehow the issue of gays came up and one of my friends ignorantly said that gay is caused by possession of evil spirit, and what gays needed were deliverance. I was speechless. Speechless because a human being with a certificate from university could think like a dolt.
I asked him what of those who that are born with one deformity or the other? What about those born autistic? Since they're not born in a normal condition, Which type of demons were possessing them? That how man gays have pastors cured? He started using religious angle to prove gays are evil and sinners before God. I asked him, what of him that have lied, slept with several women outside marriage etc, didn't the Bible condemn it as sin as well?
I started exposing his hypocrisy, reminding him of how he's not different from those slave traders and whites that have discriminated against us, na em the bobo provoke. In short my friends joined him in doubting if I was still straight. Some of them accused me there of changing from heterosexual to homosexual. Like, how can Beorn dump the sweet pussy for a butt hole? Lol.
Long story short, I stood my ground and one of them who was cultist nearly stabbed me. He warned me that if I ever defend those "demons" in his presence, he'll fuvk me up. I had to back down before some vile hediot takes my life simply because he met a superior logic.
So don't be surprised that people are liking his distasteful reasoning. They're much worse offline. Being gay or defending homosexuals would get you killed in this country.
It's serious. Defending gay offline is a way deadly game. Be mindful of the bigots you debate it with offline.
P.S: Don't blast my religion (Christianity) for the ignorance of the dude. He's just simply dumb, it has nothing to do with Christianity. I'm a Christian but not an intolerant bigot.
Well said.
However, you share a religion with many toxic people. How do you still remain in a religion where most people are like the homophobes on this thread?
It's rare to see an atheist homophobe. In the case of alexistaiwo, his problem is that he is unexposed. Cant blame a villager for being a villager. But at least, he kept quiet when faced with hard logic. There is hope for him
Kaycee7: I'm back guys. Ran away to prevent collision with any Endgame spoilers. Finally saw it yesterday. JeromeBlack, I don't usually see blockbuster movies on weekends but I couldn't help it this time around. Luckily the crowd was decent and mostly well-behaved till the final battle sequence when they started the annoying clapping. Also, some very razz comments were dropped. Thankfully, a good number of them left immediately after the battle, leaving a peaceful silence that I very much needed in order to enjoy the very emotional ending sequence. Avengers: Endgame was a very beautiful cinematic experience for me. The perfect culmination to the journey I started with Marvel 11 years ago. And I look forward to the next phase of this journey.
That is good to hear. Avengers endgame is a great movie (even though I prefer infinity wars)
As for Nigerians in the cinema, you'd just have to expect noisemakers
Unionised: Teach a child the way he should go and he will never depart from it.
Too bad your parents did a poor job of it.
I'm clearly a more intelligent and well read man than you are, and as such, I'm proud of my parents.
Patience is a virtue. Time will expose all truths. If you are this aggressive in pushing your conservative religious beliefs, it could push your children towards th opposite way.
TV/Movies › Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JeromeBlack: 12:52pm On May 14, 2019
sense is still lacking
