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alexistaiwo:
Like I said earlier, I don't want to be drawn into any argument this night.
I will rather re-watch John wick.


Leave the past in the past.


Hope you know that you can avoid being racially abused by choosing to sitting your ass down in your country and not venture into racism prone areas?

Imagine being segregated in your own motherland, a country where you originated from, a country which your ancestors were part of the foundation.

Between neighbors calling you a black sheep and your own family calling you a black sheep.
Which will you take to heart?



If you are denied a job opportunity in America for being a black man and being denied a job opportunity in Nigeria for being from a certain region of the country.
Which will be more painful?
Please tell me which is worse?





Let me go and continue my John wick.
Aje butter man

The past affects the present. Centuries of racism do not just disappear. Have you ever asked yourself why Nigerian lawyers wear wig and cloak in the burning heat of Nigerian sun?


Also, abeg try and leave the pako life. Try taking a holiday abroad.

ibkayee:
Lmao I actually generally hate dubbed animes

But I grew up watching the dubbed dragonball z (not by choice, it was on tv) so I’m just used to the accents now, any other voice sounds off

I also grew up watching the dub versions of voltron, dragon ball z etc

But the Japanese accents just sound original to me. Hmmmm

Jasonteague:
I like her music. Taylor swift is one of my favourite musician rival to katy perry. Right from her 2006 Taylor swift album to reputation. Her music is dope. My favourite album is 1989.

Do you listen to hip hop? Migos? 21 savage? Kodak black?

ibkayee:
Dragon ball is the only anime I prefer dubbed, didn’t realise the movie was gonna be subtitled urgh

Just when i was praising you for being an anime fan!

You come and disappoint me with this dub nonsense!

How the hell can you stand the annoying american accents?

I wanted to die when I heard Naruto dub for the first time. Naruto himself sounded soo gay! Like a kid whose balls havent dropped!

troubleseller:
Please, can you show me exactly where I said they were the same thing?

Did you not say that they are not so different? What does that imply?

You even went to argue that tribalism is worse. It shows you don't know what racism is.

alexistaiwo:
Pele oooo.

Omo aje butter.
Perhaps you failed to get why I credited his comment because I didn't highlight it.

It's not so different and tribalism, to me, seems even worse because it's coming from your own countryman




I have no interest in any arguments this night.
Mr Aje butter, hope you get my point now.

What does "its not so different" imply?

They are both discriminatory but racism (in the case of white v black) is more insidious. And the guy that you quoted said that tribalism is worse. If only he understood how deep the systematic destruction of the black race was in the past.

alexistaiwo:
The only sensible comment from the last 36 comments posted here.


The rest of you are just arguing for argument sake.

For heavens sake, you are all saying the same thing

Keep quiet, Mr instigator.

You are praising someone that is claiming that racism. And tribalism are the same. They are similar but there is still a significant difference.

All these aje pako sef......

ibkayee:
Do I think Black Panther was hyped to some extent? Yes

But do I also think it genuinely deserves the excitement it has generated? Yes

I understand its cultural significance but I also get that most people outside of Black Americans are grading it as a standard superhero movie and not based on its cultural ‘essence’

I personally really enjoyed it though and thought it was a good movie. Not the best, but also not the worst

Also whilst I agree that black people sometimes play the race card, you can’t really compare a black and white person’s ‘racist’ experiences that you’ll be saying black people pull it more than whites, c’mon now, at most white people face discrimination, some prejudice here and there but not the systematic type that actually means something lol ^.^

I mentioned you so that you could see proof of my argument in our previous discussion. Those who have the privilege of not living in a white dominated country and facing racism are by definition going to be ignorant of racism and many race related issues.

Many Nigerians who have never lived abroad for at least one year will come here and start talking about race! What do they truly know about race?



Also, I never said that black panther was the best movie ever.,It remains a great movie though.

Do you know that black panther is the second highest earning Marvel movie when adjusted for inflation? This is according to box office mojo-
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm

BlackManta:
Why bring up Aquaman.

I have not dropped a single review on it.
Go through my posts on this thread and DC thread as well.
I cannot praise or criticize or rate something I haven't seen.
Who does that.

I brought up the terrible CGI in BP and you did nothing to counter that.
Go watch the last fight in the movie on YouTube then come back and tell me how horrible it is.

The acting was average to okay.
It was nothing stellar, which kind stellar.
MBJ was the best actor in the movie...the others especially Tchalla were just average.

The story is predictable and okay.
It was not spectacular or touching.

I will praise slave movies.
I will praise movies with black cast only if those movies are done right.
Black panther did well in showcasing African tradition, the beautiful aesthetics and wonderful costumes.
But I will not praise this movie to high heavens cuz of that.
There is more to a movie than just showcasing Africa in a positive way.
Look out for acting, directing, score, cinematography, story, pacing, character development etc.
These are elements if done right, make a great movie.

BP was not a bad movie.
It's average to okay.

Stop treating it like a groundbreaking masterpiece or whatever .

The comment you replied was for AHCB.

I addressed your CGI issue in my reply to you. Go back and look at it then quote it. you must have missed it.

I never said that Black Panther was the best movie ever.

AHCB:
yep. It's sentiment. Sentiment that Blackmanta already addressed.

If you're talking about acting trust me, there are better, like much better acting than black pata sorry, Blackpanther. James McAvoy's acting in Split is way, like way better than all the cast in blackpata, so sorry, Blackpanther.

And yes, the people who connected with the story did so out of pure sentiment. Like is it today we've watched movies about a man seeking vengeance from his cousin because his cousin's father murdered his dad... yeah typical nollywood.

So what are you yapping about Mr?.

How do you arrive at James Mcavoy's acting being better? Or are you comparing apples to oranges without a sensible set of criteria?

Blackmanta addressed nothing. Oga, formulate your own argument.

The only reason you are saying that Black panther is like nollywood is because it has black people. The storyline is comparable with Aquaman. Come and say that aquaman is nollywood, let blackmanta come an roast you alive. Nonsense.


This sentiment you are talking about exists in all war movies and holocaust movies that win awards. The connection is deep and the story is a simple but very emotionally touching one.

Blacks like you will cry for Jewish holocaust movies but complain about slave movies. Sell outs

BlackManta:
I wonder how you missed the terrible CGI in the film.
People get blasted in BP and they fly across the screen in outlandish fashion.
BP in costume runs and moves like a PS3 character.
Don't get me started on the Rhinos, that was one of the worst CGI I have seen in MCU.
How did you miss all that

Acting was not stellar in any way.
Acting was just average to okay.
Tchalla was bland and uninspiring, MBJ carried that movie.

For you to say Tchalla was uninspiring, it is clear that you are heavily biased. Tchalla!!! of all people!! You are insulting the king? Bros, you fuckup!

The CGI was not great in the movie. But the movie was not about the action per se. This is what you need to understand. The visuals were the african settings, and the clothes.

Furthermore, if CGI is your problem, then you should discount a lot of superhero movies- both marvel and dc. Take a look at hulk in the iron buster in avengers or Tony stark when his helmet is off in the iron suit.

AHCB:
"how people were moved"? Now this sound exactly like sentiment to me. Just so you know, movies shouldn't be rated by sentiment.

Oh, yes the 1.3 billion in the box office is sentiment
The critic's recommendations are sentiments
The fact that people connected with the story, the acting and the visuals is sentiment.

Ogbeni, dont let me remix your acronym username.

BlackManta:
Hey I'm black and I was in a predominantly black cast movie and it made 1.3 billion.
Give me a free Oscar, golden globe and 100% rave reviews.

Yen yen yen....SMH.

You really need to remove your black manta helmet so that you can stop seeing things through a red filter.

I say this because I wonder how you missed the stellar acting in Black Panther plus the visuals.

Then again, villains only see hate clearly.



There is a time to bash SJWs and this is not the time.

SaviTar:
Only a biased Negro would imply that a movie deserves so much praise, golden globe and Oscars just because of predominantly black cast.

Not because of acting, directing, story etc.

But because it had predominantly black cast.

Yes that's fine.

This is how movies should be treated from now on.

Thanks for arguing out of point because (the bold) that was not my argument.

Black Panther had visuals and great acting. But certain uncle toms couldnt see that

BlackManta:
Yes there will always be people who play racist card.

In fact when it comes to playing racist card, I think blacks are more notorious than whites.

But let's tell ourselves the truth.

Did Black Panther live up to the hype ?...NO.
Is Black Panther deserving of the over-praise it got from critics...NO.
Is Black Panther such a great movie?... Not even close.

Black Panther is an AVERAGE to OKAY movie.

It doesn't deserve the over-the-top praise critics bestowed on it.
And yes critics did that deliberately just to avoid being labeled RACIST.
Same way they over-praised Wonder Woman just to avoid the wrath of feminist.

But at the end of the day...i wouldn't blame critics.
I have no problem with them.

I will blame the advocates of political correctness.
I will blame the SJW's.
I will blame the racist card players.

They are the reason why critics did what they did.

There is this new wave of black consciousness sweeping over America.
Movies like Black Panther are used to pander to the blacks.

I was not surprised when BP was nominated for best drama at the golden globes.
Can you imagine....best drama nomination... What the actual fuçk
BP didn't deserve that nomination one bit.
It got that nomination for one reason-----Predominantly Black cast in the movie.
SJW's and Political correctness minions have become so sentimentally attached BP so gotta give it that golden globe nomination.
I'm happy it lost the award to Bohemian Rhapsody.

To conclude my rant.. I would like to ask a question.

How long are we going to pander to the SJW's.
How long are we going to form political correctness.
How long are we going to give a movie undeserved praise because we don't want want to tagged racist.

Now to the SJWs and political correct minions.
Where were you when Blade was released

In conclusion we should not give a movie undeserved praise and worship.
Heck.. A masterpiece like TDK didn't get the kind of praise BP got.
Even Infinity War was not hyped like this by critics.

We cannot continue this way.
Middle fingers to those who enjoy playing racist card.

A movie should get praise and worship and recognition not because of the predominantly black cast but because of the plot, acting, cinematography, suspense etc.
These elements, if done right, makes a movie great.

These elements in the right proportion makes a movie deserving high praise, golden globe and Oscars nomination.

*drops mic*



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2IyEdHXTs

And for those people who think there is no such thing as racist card.

See evidence...

Where was this outrage when "The Shape of Water" won awards? A film that could be simply summarized as "A dumb sluut fcked a fish".

Negro, go and sit down.

Only a biased person would argue against a movie that made 1.344 billion dollars and was lauded by critics.


If you do not understand how people were moved by the black panther movie, please park well.


cc IBkayee

oyetpel:
Movies critics like but audiences hate:

Black panther.

Some people here said that critics like this movie because they didn't want to be labeled racists... but assuming critics hated it, i am sure there would have been an uproar from blacks citing racism as the reason why critics hated such a black culture superhero movie.

Are you an uncle Tom? Oreo? Coconut?

Black on the outside but white on the inside?


Audiences loved Black Panther.

Audience score on rotten tomatoes- 7.9
Audience score on metacritic- 6.6

Emekus92:
I think it is more better u speak u speak for self.

I think "more better" is not actually better when I speak for myself, grammatically.

MJBOLT:

what kind of music should the average black man listen to??

This question is a set up.

I Waka pass

krattoss:
gangster rap.. Lol

Migos ati 21 savage

Before una crucify me, there is nothing wrong with Taylor Swift if I am being honest.

The issue is that the average black man is not going to be into Taylor Swift's kind of music.

cc mjbolt, blackmanta, bountyhunter

bountyhunter:
'Too white' abeg explain, I'm just out of sorts to even begin imagine what that means.
I listen to her songs n I find nothing particularly wrong with them.
Cheii nawaoo everyday new things to learn.

1. Taylor Swift sings country music. When I hear country music, I think of racist hillbillies. Just a personal bias on my part. There is nothing wrong with country music. Also, a lot of blacks do not listen to country music.

2. She sings about her dramatic break ups and fake dramatic life. Too autobiographical for my liking

3. She can't dance, she is pale white......she sings a song that is mainly consumed by white......she is just too white

4. Kanye West made that bitc* famous.

Ishilove:
I can't believe I'm doing this, but I agree with you. Taylor Swift is just too white for the average Nigerian.

The truth is clear. Very clear.

Even white people feel that she is too white



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka89JmNwUiU

krattoss:
yeah.
Got problems with that?

What kinda of black man or Nigerian listens to gaddem Taylor Swift?

krattoss:
Taylor Swift is just a legend.
Reputation album tour.. 8/10

Taylor Swift?

ibkayee:
Never got into GOT when it was pappin’ out in the streets. I want to but I’ve been too lazy to start from the beginning

Fake babe. You were watching Nollywood when you should have been watching game of thrones

Profayo:
He has said this many times before, the guy is just struggling to stay relevant.

And for his followers, just a piece of advice for you.Many people come to Social media to say whatever they like, but back in real life they do something different.Many people will behave on socio media like they are just ordinary, but they have strong spiritual back up, if you like continue to follow these guys, continue to break the tenets for you faith, you will find out later that each man for himself

Keep quiet. We know your type.

Just quietly go and be a slave to your pastor's brainwashing while we sensible people keep our tithes/offerings for those who really need it- the poor and the less privileged.

Originality007:
you for got to add John Wick3

Yeah, it skipped my mind......

Given how part 2 ended, part 3 is gonna be mad!!!

alexistaiwo:
Game of Thrones and Avengers.


The rest can go to hell

Try "stranger things". It is a great series

BlackManta:
You never watched Toy Story 3

Please tell me you're joking

Toy Story 3 is one of the greatest Disney/Pixar animations ever made...write it down.

You missed out on a great movie.

Toy Story 3 is a GREAT film... "Good" is not enough to describe this movie... I can only use the word GREAT.

Toy Story 3 is a beautiful, emotional, tear jerker.
It will make you feel like a child despite your age.
The graphics is the best I have seen in any Disney animation...it looks almost real.

I don't know why they are making a fourth movie cuz Toy Story 3 had a perfect ending.

Toy Story 3 is a masterpiece.
It is the PICASSO of Disney/Pixar animations.

If you happen to watch it, plz try not shed a tear cuz the ending is really deep and emotional.

I still can't believe you missed out on one of the best animations of the 21st century.

Nawa for you oo..

Okay. I will watch toy story 3

bountyhunter:
Once upon a time in Hollywood.
John Wick III
Rick n Morty S4.. Get schwifty, time to get schwifty in here oh yeah take off ya pants...
Can't wait!

I didn't know that there is going to be a season 4 for Rick and Morty. How the hell did I miss that?

This is truly going to be a good year

mekaprime:
After GOT, Vikings is my second best tv series, the suspense in those 2 TV series no be here I swear.

Viking007, I have a felling that king Alfred's wouldn't survive his illness, and also, his unborn child seems to be Bjorns'. That Ivar the Boneless is really getting on my nerves, why don't they just kill the character already. And for Bishop Heahmund, his death was truly a painful one, poor Lagertha.

Vikings is the next thing to game of thrones. A lot of game of thrones fans also watch Vikings

Beorn:
Men In Black will suck. Watch this space.

Thor cannot suck. I too didn't believe in the men in black sequel but then I saw Thor and the Valkyrie as the main actors.

If it flops share, I owe you one beer