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@ niceuzor No matter what punks say, its a good idea. Seun look into it. i'm tired of seeing woorish faces up in herre! |
@ PAM I pray God should deliver me from this NL freakness oh! |
@ PAM allrite. go write the essay oh. i dont wanna entertain stories. u know? |
is the religion thread all about "christianity"? or should seun create seperate child boards for different religions here? |
acidrop: LMAO PAM nor kill me wit laugh oh!already added u. @majek u heard her right? |
@ PAM anyway just take our time. Plan ahead of the trip.I'll recomend a month plan b4 comin to naija. Just my thought. you on yahoo? |
@ PAM yep you will certanly love it *dats if you are with me* . anyway its gona be good. u coming to 9ja soon? |
@ PAM Pcity is kinda like cool now after the curfew. hoping to get my groove back. ![]() |
@ PAM yeah sure. Guess you talked with her. |
Guess guys are reading. |
@ PAM U got my number. Let me know as soon as you land. Cheers! ![]() |
@ PAM *thinking* i guess your friendship will pay me back |
No comment? |
texazzpete:hey texazz u are a gem. please reccommend an upgrade for me. ![]() |
wordmsith-davidylan, davidylan-wordsmith right? |
So i guess Seun was a bit right after all. King David was a brutal killer. Saul had promised the killer of Goliath his daughter’s hand and has to make good, but he decides to demand a dowry of 100 Philistine foreskins for her, thinking that David will be killed. Instead, David presents Saul with 200 foreskins, so Saul is forced to give David his daughter, Michal, for a wife. isnt FORESKINS what we know as joysticks? |
David and Jonathan Passages in 1 Samuel & 2 Samuel describe, among other events, a extremely close bond between David and Jonathan. Jonathan was the son of King Saul, and next in line for the throne. But Samuel anointed David to be the next king. This produced a strong conflict in the mind of Saul. Interpretation: Religious conservatives generally view the friendship of David and Jonathan as totally non-sexual. They find it inconceivable that God would allow a famous king of Israel to be a homosexual. Some religious liberals believe that David and Jonathan had a consensual homosexual relationship - in many ways, a prototype of many of today's gay partnerships. 7 Some important verses which describe their relationship are: 1 Samuel 18:1 ", Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself." (NIV) ", the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul" (KJV) Most translations use the term "soul" rather than "spirit" to describe the bond. They speak of an "immediate bond of love", their souls being "in unison," their souls being "knit", etc. Genesis 2:7, as written in the original Hebrew, describes how God blew the spirit into the body of Adam that God had formed from earth, so that Adam became a living soul. This means that "soul", in the ancient Israelite times, represents a combination of body and spirit. Thus the two men appear to have loved each other both physically and emotionally. 1 Samuel 18:2 "From that day, Saul kept David with him and did not let him return to his father's house." (NIV) David left his parent's home and moved to Saul's where he would be with Jonathan. This is a strong indication that the relationship was extremely close. It echoes the passage marriage passage in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." 1 Samuel 18:3-4 "And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David, along with his tunic, and even his sword, his bow and his belt." (NIV) Since people in those days did not wear underwear, Jonathan stripped himself naked in front of David. That would be considered extremely unusual behavior (then and now) unless their relationship was physical. 1 Samuel 18:20-21 "Now Saul's daughter Michal was in love with David, and when they told Saul about it, he was pleased. 'I will give her to him', he thought, 'so that she may be a snare to him and so that the hand of the Philistines may be against him'. Now you have a second opportunity to become my son-in-law" (NIV) In the King James Version, the end of Verse 21 reads: "Thou shalt this day be my son-in-law, in the one of the twain." (KJV) Saul's belief was that David would be so distracted by a wife that he would not be an effective fighter and would be killed by the Philistines. He offered first his daughter Merab, but that was rejected, presumably by her. Then he offered Michal. There is an interesting phrase used at the end of verse 21. In both the NIV and KJV, it would seem that David's first opportunity to be a son-in-law was with the older daughter Merab, and his second was with the younger daughter Michal. The KJV preserves the original text in its clearest form; it implies that David would become Saul's son-in-law through "one of the twain." "Twain" means "two", so the verse seems to refer to one of Saul's two daughters. Unfortunately, this is a mistranslation. The underlined phrase "the one of" does not exist in the Hebrew original. The words are shown in italics in the King James Version; this is an admission by the translators that they made the words up. Thus, if the KJV translators had been truly honest, they would have written: "Thou shalt this day be my son-in-law, in the twain." In modern English, this might be written: "Today, you are son-in-law with two of my children" That would refer to both his son Jonathan and his daughter Michal. The Hebrew original would appear to recognize David and Jonathan's homosexual relationship as equivalent to David and Michal's heterosexual marriage. Saul may have approved or disapproved of the same-sex relationship; but at least he appears to have recognized it. The KJV highlight their re-writing of the Hebrew original by placing the three words in italics; the NIV translation is clearly deceptive. 1 Samuel 20:41 "After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side of the stone and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with is face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together - but David wept the most." (NIV) Other translations have a different ending to the verse: ", and they kissed one another and wept with one another, until David exceeded." (KJV) ", and they kissed one another and wept with one another until David got control of himself." (Amplified Bible) "and they sadly shook hands, tears running down their cheeks until David could weep no more." (Living Bible) "They kissed each other and wept together until David got control of himself." (Modern Language) "They kissed each other and wept aloud together." (New American Bible) "Then David and Jonathan kissed each other. They cried together, but David cried the most." (New Century Version) "Then they kissed one another and shed tears together, until David's grief was even greater than Jonathan's." (Revised English Bible) ", and they kissed one another and wept with one another until David recovered himself." (Revised Standard Version) The translators of the Living Bible apparently could not handle the thought of two adult men kissing, so they mistranslated the passage by saying that the two men shook hands! This is somewhat less than honest. The original Hebrew text says that they kissed each other and wept together until David became great. The word which means "great" in this passage is "gadal" in the original Hebrew. The same word is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures to refer to King Solomon being greater than all other kings. Some theologians interpret "gadal" in this verse as indicating that David had an erection. However, the thoughts of David becoming sexually aroused after kissing Jonathan may have been too threatening for Bible translators. They either deleted the ending entirely or created one of their own. 2 Samuel 1:26 "I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women." In the society of ancient Israel, it was not considered proper for a man and woman to have a platonic relationship. Men and women rarely spoke to each other in public. Since David's only relationships with women would have been sexual in nature, then he must be referring to sexual love here. It would not make sense in this verse to compare platonic love for a man with sexual love for a woman; they are two completely different phenomena. It would appear that David is referring to his sexual love for Jonathan. Culled from http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bmar.htm |
@ kuns please put all your write up in a book and start selling. I strain my eyes reading your posts. so i give up at some point. |
@ topic All these useless topics makes Nairaland Date forum uninteresting, boring and apalling. Guys be creative and leave cooked issues for the dogs. Abeg i'm sick and tired seeing recycled topics. ![]() |
hey d[b]arlingD[/b] who who u are! dont u go near my PAM. acid u gt that? |
Hey Guys, some of us know these skills, some don't,some know but don't apply or some are just duns. Anyway out of xperience i got this technique that might determine u as a duns or a bons. Well to make a girl fall in love with you is so simple, not any girl but a Nigerian Girl. NOTE ;You don't have to over smartly dressed.Just be neat.Please don't start preparing a state budget. The girl will like you for being Moderate. Be polite. and nasty! Anyway just use your head sha. The technique works for nice guys and fast guys. All process might take you 3 weeks maximum (for wannabe nice guy) and 1 1/2 week minimum (for very sharp guys). [list] [li]First, get to have a random conversation with her. Ask her a stupid question and expect a stupid reply. After that a good smile and great focus, politely say your name (she will shine her 32 and may say her name without u asking her)[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Anyway you have got her attention. Guys better know girl's hairdo or anything connected to their clothing or makeup. For example ask her if her hairdo is expression what or what. she will look you like a mysterious fellow. It's all good. But ask a funny girly question.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Look for the little things around to start up a conversation. But mix it with jokes and be creative. See, just loosen up.[/li] [li][/li] [/list] [li]Dont forget to tease her. Make her feel worthless for a while. She will feel intimidated.Make it short and snappy.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Eye sight.Straight.If you turn your head don't look at the ground oh! shey u hear shy guy?[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Do something random. I recommend this. Grab her hand at the middle of a sweet conversation (even bitter one sef) and take her to the store some few walks away and buy her something little and sweet like a chewing gum something of that nature.[/li][li][/li] [list] [li]If she still has the time (she will definitely have all the time in the world now), start a short personal conversation. Dont go deep. surface talk.short.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Make sure to end the discussion yourself. Do thiswhen she is in the middle of the talk. You will know the effect of this later on. i wont tell you.[/li][li][/li] [list] [li]Then ask her for a date right there! not a number, a date! (get her number after she agrees on the date-if she doesnt then you are left on your own there-beyond the scope of this writeup)[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Take her to a "good" restaurant. Please not the best!!!!!!!!!!!![/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]have a lively evening. Chat as friends. You can feel emotional now. I nor sey make you feel like you wan kiss am now now. Now discuss personal now deep but not deepest .[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]When you are dropping her off be confident, lean and kiss her on the forehead or on her palm. Hey hey the charm don dey work. [/li][li][/li] [list] [li]Call her two days later (for strong guys-5 days later), and ask her for another date, but this time somewhere different and different!-i recommend a GYM.Keep the timing to a minimum.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Have fun, and after the time together , let her know your place. For a "correct girl" she won't resist.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Hope you do your "home" work oh? Your room must be the bomb. Smells nice,neat,romantic music playing in the background(for guys without dvd or vcd,cd,computer,t.v try and get a grade A phone with romantic mp3's-it migt help). Please cook a little fast meal for her or better still offer her a drink. She may drink a little alcohol at this point. But still ZIP UP.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Now i nor go tell you wetin u go do if she now enters the "MOOD". If she is not alcohol influenced and she is still in the mood, please go for her, infact DIVE AM. For Stronger guys-stay "put". Control your John Thomas. You may touch her, kiss her but don't F****ng F***k her. She will HIGHLY respect you for that and you have shown her that she can be secured anytime with you.[/li] [li][/li] [list] [li]Next time You are together Strong Guy. PLEASE DONT MISS A THING. DIVE AM VERY FAST! [/li][li][/li] It might work for some and might not for others. Love is a large field with so many trees, i hope you find your tree. |
YOU LOOKED LIKE A MONKEY! ![]() |
texazzpete: Its a mecury board. its similar to a pentium 3. how can i get this 3D GPU? pls help me tru. thanks. |
is there any help in here? |
RTFLMAO. The guy is so funny. |
All of una wey just dey hate on oscar nor get sense at all. I'm not that a patriot (except wen it come football), but what 2face did was trash. It doesnt make sense. Would you do it if it was you? wont you think about it? Anyway sha make him dey make him money dey go. Me i dey make my own dey go too. But lets not be so mumuish and favoritist because him get money. What he did was trash. Finito. |
udezij link=topic=73358.msg1433070#msg1433070 :Hmm Brother can you plainly and simply explain that lingua gambo for us! coz i dont seem to understand the clash of interests in your grammatical error. |
@ pilgrim1 Your posts are polite and sometimes enlightening but you dont ever reason reality on subjects like this. Faith and Reason move along. Now you belive in the trinity. If a Church can be built upon Peter, that means he his the head of the church and christianity right? then the trinity wont be correct because Peter deserves a place in divinity. this task of heading the Church is a divine order dont you think so? That means we are witnessing quaterinity (yes foursome)! |
Kuns:If i was cgift this is what i'll tell you; you believe what you believe, i believe what i believe. you defend your truth i defend my truth.you support your contradictions, i support mine too. So we are on extreme ends. This is what i would say to you. |
Kuns:Now i understand what your agenda is. The advancement of The Yoruba tamare religion. Well still so many twists! |
wales:Please can you decipher and encrypt so i can si compre this lingua franca. I nor go garri school. |
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are u lesbo
. anyway its gona be good. u coming to 9ja soon?
i wont tell you.[/li]