thebosstrevor1: We don't do sport. We play lot of polo and horse racing
But the south which have always dominated our Olympic team has only given us 3 gold since they started participating in the event since 1952
Are you aware that many many countries out there are yet to take home one single medal home? 3 gold and many silver and bronze medals it's a lot compared to other countries
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You mentioned one igbo man out of other Nigeria tribes who also won medals in 1954 british empire commonwealth games. Is common wealth Olympics
In 1954, there was no Nigeria, the last time, Nigeria won a gold in a sport that was not football in the Olympics was in 96, during that period, the team was a very diverse team and not dominated by one ethnic group.
But Chioma Ajunwa was a gold medalist in Women's Long jump 96
thebosstrevor1: The last time Nigeria got a Olympic medal was in the summer Olympics at Atlanta in 96, the team was diverse and based on merit because only the best came out to compete.
Today, what we have is by availability, if you are based abroad or have money.
If you noticed most of Nigeria's participants in our Olympic team are based abroad and about 90% of the participants come from the South east of the country, some of their supporters said it is merit based.
Let's imagine it was merit based because they are from south east, so it will be expected that they win some medals for us to justify their why merit is better than quota system of which every Nigerian tribe is a beneficiary of the system.
Imagine if it was quota system, that means, only the best will be gotten from all tribes which translates to a more bigger Olympic team and a diverse team.
I hope these " merit people " wil be able to prove Nigeria wrong, because i have noticed that since 1996, we haven't gotten any medal, since those who shout merit into our ears started dominating our Olympic list roasters.
Since Nigeria started participating in Olympics till date people from South East brought more medals home than any other ethnic group in Nigeria
Emmanuel ifeajuna was the first Black African to win a gold medal at an international sports event when he won at the 1954 British Empire and Commonwealth Games
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Xbobtage: I am a Riversman, I am not an Ikwerre man. I believe the Ikwerre peoples quest for a new political identity separate from south east igbos makes sense when looked at from the context of rivers state affairs, because the other non igboic tribes were weary of being dominated by igbo people, If the ikwerre people had wrapped themselves with igbo cloth and igbo pride, then the peaceful co existense between them and other minority tribes in rivers state would not have been possible.
Atleast now we can all call ourselves rivers people, as if it were to be a tribe, and one thing we all have in common is that we do not want to be called igbo people as people have been doing to most south south tribes for centuries simply because their grandparents understood igbo. Although there some rivers igbos who have no problem with their igbo identity like the etches, omuma, and oyigbo people. But these are smaller clans and they can afford to do that without creating any imbalance within the state.
Also since also the fulani led nigerian government wanted to stifle the igbo tribe, if the ikwerres stood by their igbo identity then I can assure you all of igbo people would have suffered it. Igbo people have massively benefited from the massive federal presence in Rivers State, If the Ikwerre people had embraced igbo identity, when bayelsa state was being created, I am sure the riverine non igboic tribes of rivers state would have opted to join bayelsa and the government of the day being anti igbo would have granted it and ikwerres and other igboic clans in River state would have been left to form a state, and the oil sector within that state wouldhave been abandoned like the federal government has abandoned oil activity in the south east, and rather oil wells that were closer to rivers state were annexed into Rivers State and drilled as Rivers Oil.
If Nigeria had turned out to be a great country with reasonable leaders, then what the Ikwerre people were doing for their survival and by extension the survival of igboic people in Rivers State is not unreasonable. It is/was all about Survival.
The reason why I and some people from other neutral Rivers tribes are now speaking out is because the Dynamics of the Politics in Nigeria has changed and the trajectory for the country is obviously not what we thought would become of the country barely looking at it from 20 years ago.
As it stands the people who are truly plotting and preparing theirselves to exit from Nigeria are the northerners, which explains the rush to buld railway tracks from lagos (their intended port of use) to Maidugiri and further in many kilometers into Moradi, Niger Republic to the tune of 1.9 Billion dollars. Also the new PIB bill which will give them 30 percent from Oil proceedings to make sure they find oil in their place. If truly these people belived in Nigeria, their people would have been demonstrating in mass by just hearing that 1.9Billion Dollars was about to be spent to build a train track to Niger, that money would transform the north in many other ways.
Buhari was a student of Tafawa Balewa and Aminu Kanu, the aim of these two people was never originally to form an unbreakable country with the south of nigeria, rather it was to take as much as possible from the south and build a true Muslim nation of their own, they said it with their own mouth. This is why all of these events are happening under Buhari and the man is acting deaf. Obviously he is not deaf, he is just playing a script.
If you understand my above sentence, then you will understand the undertones to my write up. Any nigerian minority tribe that is not plotting the survival of their people and bulding bridges at this point will see their people lumped together with a wrong group once this country seizes to exist.
As a person from a small tribe in the creeks in Rivers state, we see the ikwerres as our brothers and fellow Riverians, Where the ikwerre people go is where my people will go, If we are looking at this from a perspective of future surival my people can not follow the some ikwerre in pokeing the southeast igbos, because in honestly these people can easily settle their differences in the future as brothers, and those of us non igbos will now be left out. Amaechi can come and claim that he has always championed igbo issues and always stood with his igbo identity, other notable Ikwerres will come and say the same thing, and people Notable Ikwerres like Uche Okwukwu will come and sing igbo songs and their people will settle theirselves, people like Wike will be asked to issue apologies , matter don die be that, what about those non igboic clans wey follow them?
As Rivers People we have to start placing our state on a neutral ground, just as the people from Akwa Ibom and cross river people are doing to give us a soft landing on future alliances. Thats all I am saying.
Well all you have said so far is that the Ikwerres denial of their igbo roots it's a political survival strategy and a cowardice act of not wanting to be treated harshly by those who don't like the igbos that's just it
You said igbos have benefited from the massive federal presence in rivers state as if igbos are treated special in rivers state?
BKayy: Nna, I want to give this saga time to germinate before interfering. There was a time Ika people, Ikwerre, Ọgba, Ekpeye and Omuma trended that they are Bini. That they come from Bini royal lineage through one run away Prince or the other but the Oba of Bini and Bini Court made it clear to them that none of their Prince were missing but they didn't get the hint. They attacked their kins all because of the omen surrounding Ndigbo after the War. Now, Bini and recently Mr Omokri have come out to prove that they were super power in the ancient time. To show visible proof of their subjugated/conquered people, they are now saying that they once conquered the afamed unconquerable which is the Igbo people. To give visible proof of it, they want to point out their slaves. Who did they point at? The same Self hating Igbo that said they are from Bini. That is the same Ika, Ikwerre, Omuma and Ekpeye In as much as it is logical because the self hating igbo claimed to be under Bini but the circumstances of their position in the empire is not acceptable in the Royal Court. They claim to be offsprings of Bini Prince but now they are being told otherwise, that they are slaves not royalty. The bad thing here is that the Bini and Itsekiri are dragging the entire Anioma into this nonsense forgetting that it is only Ika that wants to be enslaved. Anioma was formed in 1951 so the Bini/Itsekiri should point towards Ika and leave the good people of Enuani alone
slowbreeze: As in ehhhh....They run way from anything Igbo.I met one ho said herr name was Onyekachukwu,but shes not Igbo,and its an Anioma name,not Igbo name.That the Igbo version is Onyekachi..And they r descendants from Bini not Igbo.i just weak.
Hahaha onyekachukwu is anioma and onyekachi is igbo? These people are annoyingly foolish
Did I tell you I hate them? I'm happy because stories like this will reset their brains to know that we their brothers from South East are the only true brothers they have, we have been killed and humiliated because of them but never denied them
Newton85: You don't know about the existence of the "where are the slave ships" crackheads amongst African Americans? Are you sure you've been on Earth all this while? Lol, go to bed bro.
Only an uneducated African American crackhead as you call it, will ask those questions about slave trade, and why will they go about calling themselves niggaz if they don't believe in slave trade?
stieyven: He who calls another a fool shall be in danger of hell. Matthew 5 :22 Remember that you shall be judged by every idle word you speak. Matthew 12 :36 You'll do well to receive Jesus into your life. Tomorrow may be too late. John 3 :16
Jesus himself called people fools, who will judge him?
jamesversion: That was why I said any intelligent person wouldn't believe such claims. They are too far apart, even separated by River Niger. So how can Ikwerre then be an offspring of Bini and don't have any form of semblance whatsoever.
Wike is a politician and not a historian. You shouldn't expect less of him.
Well a lot of Ikwerres agree with wike so the identity crisis in Ikwerre is a big one
BSsniffer: Lol Yoruba woman housewife , on one side you say Yoruba women are disloyal on the other side you say they aren't......[s]lol the mechanic I've been using for two years now is a Yoruba man who is married to an Igbo woman [/s]and guess what? He's far from being rich....this does not change the fact that even you attest that your sisters are money loving pvtas and would fvck a goat for the right price......your women are topping the list simply because it's rigged to favour them [/b]but when they get to the international stage they become irrelevant and the beauty queens to even really make an impact where largely non igbos from the south south. being a beautiful woman isn't about just being light skinned or bleaching your skin once emeka drug pusher is able to gather small money for her..... And the fulani's you're talking about are half bred shuwa arabs. Real african beauty lies with the [b]Yoruba, Edo, calabar and ijaw woman.
Yoruba women are easy to catch and keep as long as you tell them you love them and want to marry them
Lol your poor mechanic is not married to an igbo woman not every girl with an igbo name is igbo, yes better soup na money if you want to marry and keep an igbo woman you must have money Who are those rigging Nigerian beauty pageant to favour igbos? Why can't they rig for yorubas? Do you think beauty pageant is the politics you and the northerners always rig in your favour? Your women are too ugly to be rigged in, that's why
Amongst all these South South tribes you mentioned yoruba doesn't come close to them in beauty
Newton85: Oga, there are Black Americans who believe that they're indigenous to America. They also believe that the slave trade never happened. The so-called "indigenous black skins Native Americans" you're talking about may have darker skin compared to other Native Americans, but their physical features already show they aren't Black. Moreover, there was a lot of intermarriage between enslaved Africans and Native Americans. Black people are not indigenous to America.
I have never heard an African American deny slave trade or their African ancestry can you point to any famous African American who denied his African heritage?
Xbobtage: The Ikwerre people are indigenous people of Rivers State and have been in Rivers state longer the longest. This Benin story is only correct for some Ahoada clans in Rivers state, and was stupidly been peddled by some uninformed ikwerre politicians and sadly this is now being peddled by some learned people who are too lazy to research their own history.
My great grand father was an educated man, and was a custodian of our peoples culture in rivers state, I will share some of that knowledge with anyone listening.
There was nothing understood to be igbo tribe amongst the igboic speaking before the formation of Nigeria. Anyone who understood igbo especially igboic speaking people would just say I understand igbo and then say the name of their clan.
The people who reffered to them as igbo would be people from far away from the old eastern region as most people of the now SS would understand and speak some igbo as a second language as well as the language was an important language for business The only reason why we are all hearing igbo this or igbo that is because of the creation of Nigeria, the people who are igbo speaking bought and sold theirselves for centuries, and never found it necessary to see themselves alike. So for all the hatred igbos have on nigeria, just know that Nigeria is best thing to happen to igbo people, it brought igbo people together (atleast for now, all the SE states together)
In the past the Aros considered their selves to be superior to every other clan in their trade route, other clans like the Nri also thought themselves to be superior as well.
The people who call themselves ikwerre today are actually of diverse origin, Ikwerre land being the last part of the igboic hinterland before the creeks/ocean was settled by different people from different places who came to cash out from the booming slave trade, back then it was easy to get slaves from igboland as their people were in large numbers and they had caste system.
The original Ikwerres were the most powerful igboic people east of the niger and the biggest slave dealers, hence the name iwhurunoha which means in the presence of the greatest men, they were mostly warriors and slave kidnappers who were also into kingdom building and empire advancement which explains the vast amount of land owned by the ikwerres today . Their people controlled the Aro confederacy at a point before their king was dethroned by other warring clans. The original ikwerre people are actually an off shoot of ngwa people, but ikwerreland was inhabited by people from all over. Before the Nigeria/ Nigerian civil war no ikwerre person would take offense with being called igbo, hell, no one would actually introduce theirselve as an igbo man, that would have seem as vague as saying I am african. If you called a person who spoke igbo an igboman, they would not dispute it, as it would basically be understood as a person who can speak igbo, this is true for so many tribes in the SS that are now understood not to be igbo people.
Today, most ikwerre people do not know that a major part of current imo state is ikwerre land, and the ohaji people, egbema people are also ikwere people, and that in their midst are actual people from igbo hinterland who came and settled their. They may only know the Aro Osu people who came in the early 1900s.
I am asking all learned ikwerres to resist the history twisting which bad politicians and bad leaders are trying to use to make them foreigners in the very land that their forefathers were birthed to, fought for and defended.
They can argue that ikwerre wants to be seen as a distinct ethnicity as igbos,(for which I wouldnt see the benefit) but dont let some few selfish people get away with arm twisiting your history for their personal gains, and declaring you non indigenes to a land that you are truly indigenous to.
As a matter of facr if there is any igboic speaking clan that would be argued as the originator/progenator of igbo language and culture, it would be the ikwerre people and the Isu people of imo and anambra state. Because from my findings, the igbo clans in Abia have ancestral ties with the efiks and the ibibios, the Nsukka people have theirs with the the Idoma people. the ebonyi people have their with the ogoja people of cross river, the nothern Anambras and some anioma people have theirs with the igalas, the nothern aniomas have theirs with the binis. The Ikwerres do not have any ancestral ties to any other known group, rather they dominated the lifestyle in the creeks and are responsible for introducing igbo centric cultures to my people in the creeks, when my great grandparents were talking about igbo people they were doing business with from the hinterland, they were actually talking about the Ikwerres, most riverine communities in Rivers state know the ikwerre people as Igbo people according to history.
I agree with you, everything about Ikwerres points them to the igboid family, but for political reasons your people the Ikwerres are denying trying to rewrite history pointing themselves to the bini kingdom, they think they are hurting the igbos by doing that but they are doing damage to the little that is left of the Ikwerre history, people like wike came out to repeat the Statment of Ikwerres migrated from bini it's funny
jamesversion: Lolz. What is the proximity of Ikwerre to Benin? [/b]How many ethnic groups are found between them. Are there any dialectical similarities between Ikwerres and Binis and Ishekiri or Urhobo or Ika or Isoko. None whatsoever.
[b]So where then lies your baseless claims Cos if there were any interactions between Ikwerres and any of those ethnic groups, no matter how long or short, there must be some form of cultural ruboff.
I'm not the one that said it, the Ikwerres said it themselves, that they migrated from bini, wike repeated same thing on an interview he had with dele momudu
chrisxxx: Me I want to start to attend. Let me open your eyes to another part of Ikwerre history. We had a lot of Arochukwu people in our midst but fled during the war. No all of them fled and those remaining we adopted them as part of us though we refer to them as Ikwerre Aro. They could found in Isiokpo and other part of Ikwerre land. The natives discriminate against them. The Ikwerre Aro offsprings readily identify themselves as Igbo people. Check the background of any Ikwerre person who attends your meeting. He is definitely an offspring of Ikwerre Aro. Learn. Leave is alone. We are not you. We are no subgroup of any ethnic group. If you are looking for any minority to enslave or neocolonize we have passed through that before and wouldn't want a repeat.
Cut and join Story of the confused ikwerre igbos , not only arochukwu , Akwa, Ika , ngwa Edo ekpeye etc are mixed into the ikwerre , you guys will drag this ikwerre history back and forth till the ikwerre dialect dies a natural death , how many ikwerre dialect speakers are left now? Can you speak the ikwerre igbo dialect yourself? Maybe ikwerre needs to go back and learn the Edo bini language
chrisxxx: You don't history. You see what Nnamdi Kanu as done to you. At the height of Igbo power and dominance in 1963 Ikwerre people were at the constitutional conference ably led by Senator Obi Wali to make case of our unique identify. Stop listening to Nnamdi Kanu. Good enough he has been taken out of circulation. Your reasoning capacity will gradually be restored.
Senator wali at constitutional conference to make case of the unique ikwerre identity in 1963 ? Explain further , Who was senator wali in 1963? What Constitutional conference was that, was it federal or regional conference?
chrisxxx: Let me help you out. Ikwerre man has never for once considered his language to be or have anything in common with Igbo. He believes he speaks Ikwerre or Ihnurnuohna. If the Igbos exist he doesn't know. It is particularly people who study languages and for ease of language classing that came up with Igboid.
Have you ever had a second thought that if the Ikwerre people had 5 states and the Igbos were just local government what the description would have been? We may have common ancestry with the Igbos. No Ikwerre man argues this. And that is why one tribe we easily relate with are the Igbos. [s]But one thing we do not agree with you people is when you want to classify us as Igbos[/s]. Truly we are not. Our languages have a lot in common as well as some other ways of life. Remember most of our grandmothers were from Igbo including my grandmother who was from Umuopara Umuahia. When you get deeper to study our way of life and culture you will start to identify the salient differences. We have got nothing against our Igbo brothers. We love them and intermarry. However we are not Igbos or subigbos. Academia may have this grouping I would want you to look beyond that because we know the truth at the local level.
There is confusion written all over this comment of yours
1) there are close to 20+ igboid dialects out there spoken by different igboid subgroups the igbos never had a unified kingdom empire like the bini's or Yorubas so because of these many of these igboid subgroups saw themselves as a distinct ethnic group if the igbos had a unified kingdom we won't even be discussing who is igbo or not
2) secondly there are many many igbo subgroups among these 5 south east states who speak igboid dialects just like ikwerre so I see no logic in this ikwerre having 5 state comes from, there is no igbo subgroups that owns any South East state completely to itself. 3) the ikwerres speak an igboid dialect their royals bear igbo titles there is nothing more distinct in ikwerre than the other subgroups in Enugu, ebonyi, Anambra, Abia, imo or anioma in Delta
Newton85: You've never heard of African Americans who deny thier ancestors were from Africa? Lol, are you joking? Where have you been? [b]Haven't you heard about the self-acclaimed "Indigenous Blacks" amongst African [/b]Americans who believe they're indigenous to America and will always ask you "where are the slave ships" if truly slaves were brought from Africa to America. To cut a long story short, there are African Americans who believe that the slave trade never happened.
It's not self acclaimed there are indigenous black skins native Americans those ones that looks like black Indians, they don't call themselves African Americans but natives
chrisxxx: We vehemently refuse to be associated with you people. We are a distinct ethnic group. We let Nigerians know even before the war. The Nigerian Constitution recognizes us as a distinct ethnic group. We are no you. But if you are so envy of the Ikwerre identity especially to be called Port Harcourt boy we have no problem in adopting you.
Hahaha this got me laughing loud you vehemently refuse to be associated with igbos but your royals bear igbo royal titles of EZE and Igwe? You speak an igboid dialect and answer igbo names, and ameachi's claims igbo and wike's claim bini?
The ikwerre denied igbo at the end of the war in 1970 a plot of the ikwerre with other minorities to take over east central igbo properties in rivers state
chrisxxx: This is where your types are getting it wrong. Ikwerre people are saying that Igbo is Ikwerre and not the other way. Don't mind the size or your population. We bear Eze as name. As a title it could be a borrowed one as one rulers bear Nye we Ali or Eli depending the part of Ikwerre you are. See [b]tell your kind the is difference between who speaks Igbo and Igboid language. Someone who speaks Igbo is an Igbo person. Someone who speaks Igboid is not necessary an Igbo person but may have got some relationship with Igbo peopl[/b]e. ..
And can you explain further, there are 20+ igboid dialects out there, no one can tell which one is the original igbo dialect, the central igbo is a combination of different igboid dialects, can you mention which igbo clan speaks igbo?
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you vehemently refuse to be associated with igbos but your royals bear igbo royal titles of EZE and Igwe? You speak an igboid dialect and answer igbo names, and ameachi's claims igbo and wike's claim bini? 
