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Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:46am On Nov 23, 2019 |
tricksters: Im an igbo guy, and Im not defending him at all. In fact i've explained fully how the dude has serious problems... so dont call us Igbos pathetic.. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:46am On Nov 23, 2019 |
YungMillionaire: Maybe he did, but its not all relevant.. The problem is Onyeama has been indicted and he FORGED bank documents which is a major crime in USA. I know many people dont agree with the indictment, but the simple truth is the USA has some of the strictest laws in the world.. If you dont want to deal with it then don't travel, live, or do business with any usa person or company. Simple.. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:43am On Nov 23, 2019 |
Nukilia: Agree.. In saner climates, a DOJ indictment usually leads to immediate step down and hand over of the company to someone else. Thats the smart thing to do as well. But trust Nigeria, they will probably publish a press release saying that this is a witch hunt, and its all a lie, and he was deceived by his bankers, etc, but THATS A MISTAKE. All that will do is kill your chances of a good plea deal, plus the DOJ will use it against you during your sentencing hearing and ask the judge for a harsh sentence due to the fact you're denying it and showing no remorse. Part of getting a good/reduced prison sentence in USA is showing remorse and apologizing.. I hope air peace ceo doesnt come out swinging againt the DOJ.. it will only hurt him. 19 Likes 3 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:39am On Nov 23, 2019 |
cornoil: Agree.. People abeg this isnt tribal.. Those DOJ attorneys dont know or care about the difference between IGBO, YORUBA, HAUSA, DELTA, etc.. What they care about is the crime committed.. This isnt Nigeria.. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:38am On Nov 23, 2019 |
Sleevia: very possible.. could be the bank involved as well, maybe someone noticed the fraud and reported it.. Either way someone most likely reported this to the DOJ and they started looking into it. The problem is that when you get indicted it means thousands of hours of work, and likely years have gone into your investigation.. Thats why EFCC cant win a case.. They will get a report and in 2 days go and arrest the guy . LOL. in USA, they will get same report, and can spend years building up a tight case before going for the indictment.. Thats why they always win their cases. 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:34am On Nov 23, 2019 |
tammie24: LOL exactly.. air peace doesnt even rank as a top 100 airline in the world by number of fleet.. Why would USA care about them? I just checked, they dont even rank top 5 inside africa( Royal air maroc, ethiopian, kenyan, south african, egypt, etc are all bigger) USA doesnt care about a tiny small airline.. 30 Likes 5 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:30am On Nov 23, 2019 |
philip0906: exactly what ive been saying since.. thanks bro 12 Likes 1 Share |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:29am On Nov 23, 2019 |
voltron14: maybe he wants to send a gift to the family house 7 Likes 4 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:28am On Nov 23, 2019 |
Nukilia: lol air peace doesnt even have one single flight to USA.. they also patronize boeing (USA COMPANY) It has nothing to do with USA fighting Nigeria.. It has to do with a man breaking the strict USA laws and facing the consequences.. Simple.. 20 Likes 3 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:22am On Nov 23, 2019 |
NationalHero: I suggest you go to DOJ ATLANTA website and read the charges.. That will help you a bit.. 14 Likes 5 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:18am On Nov 23, 2019 |
PDPGuy: exactly my point. lol DOJ indicts thousands every month and only a few get away.. thats the point i was making about the damn near 100% success rate.. Just for fun i checked, Senetator Ted Stevens (In February 2009, FBI agent Chad Joy filed a whistleblower affidavit, alleging that prosecutors and FBI agents conspired to withhold and conceal evidence that could have resulted in a verdict of "not guilty." So he got away cuz FBI messed up.. Enron owner (On May 25, 2006, Lay was found guilty on six counts of conspiracy and fraud by the jury) - He died before he got to go to jail 11 Likes 1 Share |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:14am On Nov 23, 2019 |
philip0906: lol thanks bro.. This is a forum where people should share and gain knowledge.. I read a lot of threads I know nothing about and try to learn.. I dont speak on those threads.. But in this case I actually know quite a bit and i'm just trying to explain and shed some light so people can understand what's going on since the USA justice system is very different from Nija EFCC nonsense.. 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:13am On Nov 23, 2019 |
sonnie10: Agree with the point about carelessness.. If I owned a major airline in Nigeria, and i was moving around $20-40M through USA banks, trust me, I'd bring out $1m and have a team of USA corporate lawyers and tax attorneys to make sure everything is legal and done correctly. 12 Likes |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:10am On Nov 23, 2019 |
PDPGuy: We know as EFCC be.. Connections work in Nigeria.. He can make a few calls and EFCC will drop it.. Doesn't work that way in USA. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:09am On Nov 23, 2019 |
LegendHero: lol some people are difficult to please! I agree.. Anyone that reads what I wrote in this thread should know I have a lot of ties to USA and i know what im talking about.. 9 Likes |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 5:06am On Nov 23, 2019 |
LordKO: LOL.. i dont want to publish here.. send me a PM ill send it to you.. no worries.. 1 Like |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:59am On Nov 23, 2019 |
LordKO: Umm many of you dont know what a USA criminal indictment means.. It means the attorneys presented the evidence and got a grand jury to indict.. Which leaves you only two options: 1 . Plead guilty for lesser jail time (based on # of charges facing he will get jail time) 2. Go to trial and most likely lose. before they indict you they have all the evidence they need. hence why the DOJ has a near perfect conviction rate.. This is USA DOJ not EFCC "indicted on one count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, three counts of bank fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit credit application fraud, and three counts of credit application fraud." Show me one person who has been indicted by DOJ for similar charges that didn't go to prison. 12 Likes 4 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:57am On Nov 23, 2019 |
12inchess: its not "what you see". its what to DOJ sees. It's what the jury will see when DOJ presents those fake invoices, LCs, to them.. Thats the problem. If you lived in USA for a while you should know by now that once the DOJ indicts someone they almost always convict. Read the report, what he did was a crime.. Whether its a crime in Nigeria or Pluto is irrelevant.. The money moved through USA banks and LYING on documents is called a crime.. Im sure when you lived in USA you enjoyed the ease of credit cards, car loans, mortgages.. Why do you think that is so? Precisely for this reason.. Here's an example of someone I know who got few years in prison.. Lets say example He had a business making lets says $100,000 selling t shirts.. he went and got fake invoices for orders totalling $1mil, then he ran to his bank and collected $500,000 loan to buy new equipment using those invoices... Its called bank fraud and the USA will always prosecute.. Its the same way tens of thousands are in prisons in USA for insurance fraud (faking car accident, etc).. Its the reason you can destroy your car, make a call to your company, and you get paid basically in a few days... Everyone trusts the system, including the banks and companies it protects, and they trust the system because the govt actively prosecutes those who try to defraud it 24 Likes 6 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:39am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: Its possible Dangote round tripped or got cheaper dollars and made money from the difference.. However, it is all SPECULATION unfortunately.. Its just hear-say and nobody has actual evidence he did it. You may be very well correct, but its irrelevant as no country or entity has indicted Dangote for round tripping and tax evasion, so for all legal intent and purposes he has not broken any laws. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:30am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: Oh I 100% agree. There are tens of thousands of fraudsters and drug dealers living free. Thats not the point, the point is HE HAS NOW BEEN INDICTED for a fraud which means they have enough evidence to nail him. You have a better chance of beating a murder charge as a good lawyer will try to object the evidence, etc, but for white collar crimes/fraud theres no way. The evidence, bank statements, fake LC, fake company docs, are all there. And a jury of your PEER is all that is needed to convict you, and its pretty easy for the prosecuting attorneys to convince them, hence why their conviction rate is damn near perfect.. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:27am On Nov 23, 2019 |
voltron14: exactly.. This isnt tribal or anti Nigeria. Dude committed a crime and he has been indicted for it. The DOJ attorneys who investigated and indicted him dont give a crap about Igbo, Air peace, Nigeria, etc.. All they did was their job. See a crime, indict and prosecute. Remember there are tens of thousands of lawyers working for DOJ, FBI, IRS, DEA, etc, whose sole JOB IS PROSECUTE CRIMES they see or crimes people, banks, companies report to them. The only time the DOJ wont indict someone is maybe money involved is too small or they feel like they have a weak case. Apart from that they will always prosecute the case and indict the people/companies involved. 17 Likes 3 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:23am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: Trump may have done shady things, but shady doesnt mean illegal.. Trust me.. Show me his tax fraud? Also there are tons of illegal migrants working and USA does not actively prosecute business owners as they can just claim they didnt know. There is a big difference between being shady and committing a crime.. Its called having smart lawyers, and trump has plenty of those.. if he outright committed an indictable crime he would be in prison long before he had a chance to be USA president. Problem now is he is the president, and there is no protocol for indicting a sitting president! Only impeachment is possible. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:18am On Nov 23, 2019 |
onegig: Go read the indictment bro.. what are you talking about. "Beginning in approximately May 2016, Onyema, together with Eghagha, allegedly used a series of export letters of credit to cause banks to transfer more than $20 million into Atlanta-based bank accounts controlled by Onyema. The letters of credit were purportedly to fund the purchase of five separate Boeing 737 passenger planes by Air Peace. The letters were supported by documents such as purchase agreements, bills of sale, and appraisals proving that Air Peace was purchasing the aircraft from Springfield Aviation Company LLC, a business registered in Georgia. However, the supporting documents were fake — Springfield Aviation Company LLC, which is owned by Onyema and managed by a person with no connection to the aviation business, never owned the aircraft, and the company that allegedly drafted the appraisals did not exist. Eghagha allegedly participated in this scheme as well, directing the Springfield Aviation manager to sign and send false documents to banks and even using the manager’s identity to further the fraud. After Onyema received the money in the United States, he allegedly laundered over $16 million of the proceeds of the fraud by transferring it to other accounts." I dont know about Nigeria, but in USA he committed a crime, and they will get a conviction. They have enough evidence trust me.. This is the DOJ not EFCC 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:16am On Nov 23, 2019 |
Siberry: Yup.. One of the only countries i see not extraditing its citizens. LOL but onyeama isnt a russian? But my point is valid, Countries yield to USA. Even EFCC is sending its citizens indicted by FBI to USA to serve prison sentences. But basically Canada, Mexico, Australia, all of europe basically, will bend over to the USA. Thats 95% of the world. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:12am On Nov 23, 2019 |
philip0906: yup.. 100%. sadly enough all USD wires through SWIFT system have to go to NYC for clearing. So USA knows and has record of every single USD denominated wire sent in the world.. Crazy stuff. Unless you want to start wiring YEN and EURO but world business is done in USD. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 4:09am On Nov 23, 2019 |
gnykelly: Honestly from what i think and read(read the whole indictment), AIR PEACE as company is not being indicted.. Any issues air peace may have will be from EFCC, etc who will want to know where funds came from.. But USA GOVT doesnt care about his airline. All the DOJ attorneys did was see a man named Onyeama who committed a crime in their country, and they indicted him for those crimes.. simple... only problem is USA DOJ is arguably the best prosecution arm in the WORLD. Ive seen them get convictions of people who LIVE ABROAD and commit crimes ABROAD, and yet somehow they come to USA to face prison time. USA I hail.. 23 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:58am On Nov 23, 2019 |
philip0906: Thanks bro for explaining what ive been saying.. Im sad as well, im an igbo guy and this hurts.. I was just trying to clear the air and explain what is going on because i spent my whole life in USA and have been a part of the system and know how it works well.. 22 Likes 3 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:53am On Nov 23, 2019 |
gnykelly: nope.. you dont want to fight the DOJ in court. If you lose they will hammer you down with that 20 years in prison.. If i remember correctly from my Business LAW class in USA, DOJ has a conviction rate of damn near almost 100% Before they indict you, they have to present the documents to a grand jury who agree that a crime has been committed.. he would not have been indicted if they thought he could escape from it.. The evidence is there, he committed a crime. Once again let me explain, the DOJ doesnt care about the source of the money, they care about the bank fraud charges (lying on bank documents through USA banks. thats a cirme. simple..) Not to mention IRS, Home land security, etc were part of the investigation.. This is an investigation that took thousands of hours and many years to conclude. They're looking for a conviction and thats it. 30 Likes 5 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:50am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: People are stupid or cant read.. He did not steal any money from USA. USA govt is basically nailing him on lying on LC documents.. They dont care if the money came from his mother in Nigeria.. What they care about is he formed a fake company, sent fake invoices, sent fake LC letters, and moved those funds through USA > Bank fraud with prison time This is a criminal indictment for bank fraud/money laundering. He will not get option of fine without jail time. I dont recall one case in USA where someone was indicted by DOJ for same charges and didnt get jail time.. This isnt a civil case, its a CRIMINAL INDICTMENT. (IF he was in the USA, or in another country, he would be under arrest right now.) 28 Likes 3 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:45am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: tinubu case was very different.. .He was not indicted at all. I searched records and there was NO CRIMINAL INDICTMENT FROM DOJ for Tinubu. He was named in an investigation and he agreed to forfeit money. The fact he wasnt indicted means he wasnt the target or big enough fish for them.. There is nothing like "SETTLE OUT OF COURT in a DOJ INDICTMENT" Everything including plea bargain has to be in court.. Plus plea bargain doesnt mean you get no jail time, it just means reduced time. Currently from my math if he goes to trial he's facing 30+ years on the charges.. So a prosecutor who wants to be nice and friendly will most likely offer him maybe 2-3 years prison.. (this is being generous). 32 Likes 4 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:43am On Nov 23, 2019 |
laughing at people who are saying its not a crime. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Business / Re: Allen Onyema Indicted For Bank Fraud And Money Laundering In America by jjman2322: 3:33am On Nov 23, 2019 |
franchasng: irrelevant in the eyes of the DOJ. Trust me im speaking from a place of great knowledge. A crime committed is a crime committed.. he has been indicted. After his indictment there are three options ONLY LEFT: 1. Go to usa and go to court (he will lose, as the DOJ attorneys dont have to prove his money is clean or dirty.. All they have to prove is he lied which he did and the jury will convict on that) 2. Go to usa and plead guilty and get smalller jail time. 3. Fight extradition and become a fugitive and never leave Nigeria again. Thats it! 42 Likes 5 Shares |
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