₦airaland Forum

Covert1:
Relevant News: Happy for South Africa at the moment, an important country: Cyril Ramaphosa has just been announced as the new leader of the ANC having won the leadership contest of the party against Jacob Zuma' ex-wife Dlamini-Zuma (hated that so much-a man wanting to impose his ex-wife on a nation). Potentially Ramaphosa is all but guaranteed to become the next President of SA a good thing and hopefully a better deal for the SANDF. A strong SANDF is good for Nigeria and Africa in general. New beginnings 2019.

Ramaphosa should seek to bring SA/Nigeria relationship in the way of the UK/US strategic co-operation on foreign policy acknowledging Nigeria's natural right of Continental leadership.

Ibrahimanees:
According to Wikipedia, an unspecified number of SU 35 was delivered to Sudan in second week of November.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Air_Force

Guyman02:
Nelson Mandela who was hitherto labelled a 'terrorist' was repackaged by the western media after he left the whites in control of the economy leaving the blacks impoverished.

shibanbo:
Great man but he later sold out,the Mandela that fought before and during his prison terms is different from the Mandela(Madiba) that became the president,he went on to become a staged managed Mandela.who sold out on their Freedom Charter (F.C)Agreement

patches689:
Well its an aging system, with a priority contract out for its replacement, and it was used by.... Saudis.

Patriot is the next to be replaced - their focus was on fulling an (unrelated) capacity gap with THAAD, now its MEADS (Patriot Replacement). Long term goal is to replace AEGIS, but they first need to find a ship design to put it in. Zumwalt class was supposed to be a complete solution with potential for the BMD role (Ballistic Missile Defence), but believe it or not it was too expensive to re-code the Zumwalts Total Ship Computing Environment Infrastructure (TSCEI) to full the AEGIS role.

Its tough to accept just how far ahead of us the major powers are...

SupremeCourt:
I see your point. No wonder Iran refused to buy Russian t-90 tanks, they prefer made in Iran tanks that are same level as modernized t-72. Iran also refused to buy downgraded su-30 from Russia, they say it's either the best su-30SM version or su-35, or else no deal. Iran says they are tired of inferior weapons that super powers dump on 3rd world nations, and Iran also wants full local maintenance capability for su-30 or else they will not buy jets that will make them always depend on foreign technical support in time of war and embargo.

With all these points you people are raising here, maybe Sudan will end up with downgraded su-35 that will not be able to beat NAF jf-17 block iiii that has AESA radar, but sha, there is no plan for NAF to buy air refueling, the NAF boys said it costs extra $50 million for air refuelling planes and no need to refuel in air against Boko Haram.

Covert1:
A Banana Republic Can Only Exist On The Doorstep of Weak Countries. History Has Shown Noisemaking Countries Are Soon Cut To Size—The Chief Jingoist Evidently Is.

SupremeCourt:
Six su-35 planes from what I hear after asking NAF boys, will defeat any air force in Africa except Egypt, they say its an awac range and capacity fighter jet

cstr1000:
Why would Algeria use a SA missile, when they have always been getting their weapon systems from Russia?

lionel4power:
If you are wondering about the military strength of African countries, here is an article to help you decide. African Military Blog has compiled a comprehensive list of the TOP 10 MOST POWERFUL WARSHIPS IN AFRICA. The criteria and parameters used by African Military Blog to rank this vessels include:

1. Firepower
2. Year of commissioning
3. Role (e.g guided missile, multipurpose e.t.c)

Note, this list doesn't include Aircraft carriers, Helicopter carriers, Submarine, Landing ships, Auxiliary ships or just plain big ships. Unless those ships carries enough firepower to meet the standard of a war-fighting vessel.

No 1)The FREMM Multipurpose Frigate.
This is a class of Multipurpose frigates built by DCNS/Armaris.
Egyptian FREMM frigate
Type Frigate
African Users Egyptian Navy (Tahya Misr)
Royal Morroccan Navy (Mohammed VI)
Displacement 6700 tonnes
Speed 27-29 knots
Range 6000-6700 NM
Weapons Carried
Main Gun OTO Melera 76mm SR gun
Land-attack missiles 16-cell SYLVER A70 VLS for launching SCALP Naval land-attack cruise missile.
Anti-Air 16 cells SYLVER A43 or A50 for Aster 15
Anti-Ship MM-40 Exocet block 3 missiles
Anti-submarine 2 X 2 WASS B-515/3 launchers for MU 90 torpedoes.

NO 2) MEKO 200
This is a frigate designed by Blohm and Voss shiyard of Germany, its a part of the MEKO class family of ships. This is a new class of stealth (Low observable) ships.
MEKO 200
Type Frigate
African Users Algerian National Navy
South African Navy
Displacement 3,400 tons
Speed 32 knots
Range 6,000 NM
Weapons Carried
Main Gun 127 mm MK-45 Mod 2 Naval Artillery Gun
Anti-Air MK-41 Mod 5/ Mod 8 VLS foe ESSM and Sea Sparrow SAM
Anti-Ship 8X Harpoon missile
Anti-submarine 2X triple 324 mm MK-32 Mod 5 tubes
NO 3) Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate
Oliver Perry class Frigate
This is a class of guided missile frigates named after the American Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry and built by Bath Iron Works.
Type Guided missile frigate
African Users Egyptian Navy (4 units)
Displacement 4,100 tons
Speed 29 knots
Range 4,500 NM
Weapons Carried
Main Gun OTO Melera 76mm gun
Anti-Air MK 13 launching SM-1MR Missiles
Anti-Ship Harpoon anti-ship missile
Anti-submarine Mark 46/Mark 50 torpedoes


READ THE REST HERE>>> http://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2017/03/top-10-most-powerful-warships-in-Africa-2017.html?m=1

SupremeCourt:
Enlarged with massive recruitment for Boko Haram war 2014-2017, Nigerian armed forced now have salary bill of about $1.5 billion yearly as at 2018. In 2010-2015 the lower number of personnel had salary bills around $1 billion, but FGN defence budget was about $15 billion. It means $10 billion was available for new weapons and equipment procurement to Nigerian army, navy, air force 2010-2015. Please if you have photos of new weapons we bought for $10 billion kindly improve what you post on this thread, we keep seeing the same old weapons. Where is your $10 billion weapons? This thread needs the photos. Thanks.

Covert1:
Two different things here.
Same constitutional upheaval.

Gambia: Election Dispute

Zimbabwe: Brazen military Coup

Jammeh refused to give up power after mediation, Nigeria and ECOWAS invaded and ousted him.

Robert Mugabe apparently has been overthrown and under house arrest. The military is in control under whatever guise even if by a puppet—that is against the constitution which justifies an intervention else a certain Captain or Major elsewhere will have other ideas.

tdayof this is a brazen theft of power at the barrel of the gun in broad daylight. It won't happen in ECOWAS with big brother watching.

Covert1:
Nigerians calling me out lol! Listen kid, there are Nigerians and there are Nigerians. So that's not an escape for u neither is calling me Augustine escape. I won't let this pass. Did u hear me? Cowards! That u and ignoramuses here don't know international relations don't mean I'll let it adorn nairaland.

Everything I write is continually validated here day by day only insolent-proud-I-too-know humans here act about it with f.oolery yet go behind to steal points and quote it by other terms here. I have talked on regional powers, what it means and the coercive measures it can bring to bear by various means. So, you are clearly not getting it. Because u're a kid I'll tell you again, now u cancel and remain mediocre as ur retort indicates or sit at the foot of the teacher and learn:

Long story short, you see what happened or is happening in SADC won't happen in ECOWAS, period. Why? Because an Hegemon exists: Nigeria. The states know Nigeria has the military threat dimension which don't necessarily have to be used but just the fact it exists brings Nations into acquiescence of the hegemon. I could draw you a scenario of measures Nigeria could employ in Zimbabwe to determine the outcome it wants and would it act yes it would. Failure to act makes it weaker. That's a regional power. It surreptitiously, covertly, overtly, economically or militarily determines the fate of nations under it's sphere of influence.

AK and indeed others I remember has been drawing for blood in Zimbabwe to show your military might now he's singing a different tune. Next time when a Nigerian talks y'all should just shut up and acknowledge whose your boss. That's the fact.

Here you are babbling nonsense. You think after all the noise you southies make of your capabilities condescending on us at every turn and the opportunity presents itself to prove it and you failed again I'll swallow it hook line and sinker, nah, imma call you out so it's documented. Where's your shiny Gripens? but alas the Zims know you have no combat capability. You can't fight. If you were a threat those Generals would dare not do what they did knowing the consequences. What happened in your backyard won't happen here and everyone knows it but the bias of ur media cousins especially bbc would have us read a different narrative to make SA still appear relevant in power dynamics but would never give Nigeria it's due. No, you are not.

One phone call from a Nigerian General and any officer planning a coup in sub-Saharan Africa will think twice and stand down.

I can't continue to indulge a kid. Oya cancel and get a jolt to your veins. The point has been made. SA military power and regional claim only exists on paper. Covert has been validated again and will be validated again.

SupremeCourt:
Anybody asking for Nigerian products can continue pretending he has not seen Gulma drone, ARA MRAP, NNS Andoni, NNS Karaduwa, an many others on the 1,500 pages of this thread. Proforce website alone is enough, if you dont see Nigerian products, maybe you are blind like the beggers on the streets of Kano.

Yes, many South African products are overloaded with American European made components and all the advanced technology work is done by your USA and EU senior partners. Then you delete the names of your foreign partners and call the product 100% made in South Africa. You be robber o!

"Boeing and the Paramount Group, the South Africa-based global defense and aerospace business, have expanded their 2014 agreement to cooperate on an advanced mission system for a variant of the Advanced, High Performance, Reconnaissance, Light Aircraft (AHRLAC). Boeing will develop an integrated mission system for the aircraft enabling ISR and light strike missions for the AHRLAC safety & security, and military variants." — Boeing Media March 8, 2016.

Secretly behind all the hi-tech South African made products are powerful American European companies doing all the hard work.

newafricaken254:
@active kruger hey id@t can you see any feature that indicate that's a road,which your b@tch about.if you don't know anything about the sahara. stop your shenanigan

Covert1:
Pls don't mind that illiterat.e. Giving him attention pumps his mediocrity.

In today's dollars it takes about 10 million dollars to train a Nigerian soldier. May have even gone up under President Buhari. But inferior complex can't make locals bereft of any value believe that can come out of Black Africa. They want us to be apologists.

Tufiakwa! Pls forgive my language forgot my curse word.

Zoharariel:
May Ogun Lakaaye Oshimale use your blood to water the flower of Apartheid so that - you bloody xenophobic-ingrates can come seeking Nigeria's assistance once again - Omo ale!

Xenophobia: 13 Ways Nigeria Helped South Africa During The Apartheid Period


1.) Nigeria set up the National Committee Against Apartheid (NACAP) in 1960.

2.) The late Sunny Okosun composed a song called “Fire in Soweto” in 1977 to show support for the fight against apartheid

3.) From 1966, Nigeria gave material and financial support to the freedom fighters in South Africa

4.) Then Nigeria’s Prime Minister, Alhaji Abubakar Tafawa Balewa sent letter to South Africa’s ANC militants on April 4, 1961 showing support for their cause.

5.) Nigeria provided $5 million to the ANC and the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC) annually.

6.) In 1976, Nigeria set up the Southern Africa Relief Fund (SAFR) for the purpose of bringing relief materials to the victims of the apartheid

7.) The military administration of General Obasanjo contributed $3.7 million to the fund and Obasanjo personally donated $3,000 to the fund.

8.) All Nigeria’s civil servants and public officers made a 2% donation from their monthly salary to the SAFR.

9.) Nigerian students skipped their lunch to make donations, and by June 1977, the total contribution to the fund had reached $10.5 million. The donations to the SAFR were widely known in Nigeria as the “Mandela tax”

10.) Between 1973 and 1978, Nigeria contributed $39,040 to the UN Educational and Training Programme for South Africa

11.) Nigeria boycotted the 1976 Olympics and Commonwealth games in 1979 as part of our protest against apartheid in South Africa

12.) From 1960 to 1995, Nigeria spent over $61 billion to support the end of apartheid, more than any other country in the world.

13.) Nigeria refused to sell oil to South Africa in protest against the white minority rule. Nigeria lost approximately $41 billion then. $41billion dollars. Remember this was our oil boom moment. As long as we fought apartheid, the money meant nothing.

Artistree:
This is a Nigerian forum!

Artistree:
You are in South Africa what brought you to nairaland? What's your country currency, is it not rand?
Why don't you create a Randland and focus on your country?

Zoharariel:
South Afrika is still in bondage and still struggling to fulfil the hopes & dreams of Mandela.

And instead of the lazy, thieving bastards directing their anger & frustration towards the whites who are still ruling them, they are taking it out on foreigners through xenophobia - forgetting how Nigeria helped their pitiful-asses in breaking the back of Apartheid by spending over $61Billion from 1960 - 1995 just to support the end of Apartheid - more than any other Country in the World.

If not for Nigeria, South Afrika would have been renamed “The United States of Israel” with all their lazy, thieving blacks turned into trained animals for diverse entertainment circus sideshows.

krattoss:
but I think we have some f-16s