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Spy360:
By Jan I mean the next transfer window. It's a different thing judging the performance of a coach and the strength of a team. It takes six months to judge if a team needs strengthening. That's why the TW is every six months.

I disagree with the bolded. Do you know what SIX whole months is? That's half a season o. How do you judge a good coach and team success in 6 months which is half of the season gone. Do you think others will wait let your team gel for 6months??

A good coach knows within 1-2 months what needs to be strengthened. To judge a team or signings to improve team(s), you need 2 playing months highest. Remember 2011/12 season after man u flog us 8-2, how we sharply bought players. The players bought improved us(from Arteta, to Santos to mertesacker). It didn't take 2 months not to talk of 6months. We even won Chelsea and Liverpool in their house t and won convincingly too before finishing 3rd. That's what good signing does.

If by mid-october, no big improvements in this team, then our transfer window is officially bad bad bad!!!

Spy360:
You cannot conclude that it's a failure until we see the team play. Edu and Arteta have until Jan to prove not Sep.

Till January?
We should just kukuma give dem this season to see whether this transfer window is a failure or not na

By November any team needs to know what's up with their signing highest

Spy360:
I think Nketiah wants to stay at Arsenal but wants assurances that he will play. So he is using the deal as leverage. Bad agent like you said. But I am sure Arsenal will not allow him leave for free when there are suitors. He will either extend or choose one of the suitors.

Shey he's in the last year of his contract? Lol
We go see who go force am extend if he wants to leave for free. You're even forgetting arsenal have a history of allowing players leave for free

kodded:
the ranking get as e be o

How can man united be above mancity and Liverpool ?

Like, what kind of sorcery is that

Na C.Ronaldo sorcery na

E sure me say na man u fan sit down compile dat thing

kodded:
I bet leno will leave for cheap just like every arsenal player this past transfer window.

Edu is the worst Technical director the club has witnessed, his partnership with Arteta is the sole reason why we are languishing in the bottom of the league with little or no improvement into the first team squad.

Lol... The way the club dey take troway money eh

To think our biggest sale is still iwobi at 40m, even in this transfer market dat inflation full everywhere.

Like Ro.land once said, never have we seen a club do termination of contract like say na norm. And na this edu start everything. Gazidis own na free outgoing transfer. How this club no go run down kwanu??

kodded:
Lol.... let's be careful overhypying this present man united team, who dash them 87% over liverpool and man city

Na lie sef.

Who vote? Him say na @pl and @fa. Who are they? Like clubs will just come together to vote such nonsense abi fa no see work do than to setup votes for such nonsense abi??

paafin:
� Breaking news
Arsenal have been officially removed from the top 6 and are going to be replaced surely by Leicester City
Votes by the @FA and @PL have ranked Arsenal with 43% while Leicester City had 49%

The Top 8 teams stand as :
1.Man UTD with 87%
2. Man City with 85%
3. Chelsea with 74%
4. Liverpool with 72%
5. Tottenham Hotspur with 60%
6. Leicester City with 49%
7. Arsenal with 43%
8. West Ham UTD with 38%
But if Arsenal finish the season 8th or above they will regain their top 6 spot �
@optajoe

Just a season we didn't make Europe, we don officially comot for top 6
Like we're the first big club that didn't make top 6 in EPL.

This news is as false as lai Mohammed speech

Spy360:
I think they wanted a backup keeper who will eventually replace Leno (Leno seems to have agreed with the club to leave next season). They wanted a young British player who can play ball. Let's hope Ramsdale fits the bill. But he looked good in the Carabao cup.

Is it a legit news that Leno have agreed to leave the club next season, cos I've not read it anywhere sha.

If that's the case, I just hope ramsdale fits the bill and I hope we're able to command a substantial fee from Leno's head

ObaIgwe1:
I later found out that it was Nketiah that threw spanners into the whole thing, including offer from C.Palace. The guy wants more money than what Brighton and Palace are willing to pay and he also prefers bigger clubs.

This is also the main reason he has refused to sign an extension with us... He wants more money than was proposed.

We cannot sell a player against his wishes. I just hope his agent is advising him right and I hope he will get better offer from bigger clubs when he walks out free from us at the end of the season.

Hmmm... Who is the agents of all these players sef? And is it that they(the players) don't have sense?

Which big club will be able to guarantee you playing time when you can hardly see that playing time at arsenal sef. And why do most players place money over playing time, knowing fully well that if/when they play well, the money will surely come.

Na wa ooo. Well he'll walk away free, Hopefully he get his wish.

Thanks for the info and enlightenment. I don dey too vex for the White Ben Amount and the news been further make me vex, but at least I know the main issue now

patrickmuf:
Even the Odegaard deal sef get as e be. I'd rather a more experienced CAM for 40m...

Xhaka renewal was just a daft move, should have been sold to Roma for even 15m...Sometimes you just have to cut your loses...

Exactly what many of us are saying here about the odegaard deal. Odegaard will just blend in like other average midfielder for us(just slightly better than the rest). We needed a CAM that will give huge impact to us and raise the standard of those around him not just blending in.

As for xhaka, the less said about that the better. Reason why anything wey the board dey talk I dey take am with pinch of salt cos dem never ready and serious yet

OfficialDJ:
God when

Las las we still finish 5th na

mostob:
Money and shyness no dey the same group my brother...

patrickmuf:
Let me drop my 2 cent here...

I think the Arsenal board were on point with the purchase of Gabriel last season but not White and Ramsdale or the other defenders they've bought.

I think what Arsenal needs now is to get back into the UCL proper and a good attack and midfield can deliver that but to win trophies which should be a long term goal for Arsenal at the moment, they will need to improve on their defense...

With a good attack and midfield, you can win games against the weaker teams and possibly snatch a point or a win against the big guns and that should be enough to guarantee a top 4 finish for a couple of seasons before the issues surrounding the defense is fully addressed.

I don't think Saka, ESR, Martinelli, Lokonga, Nketiah and the likes should be the go-to men for a team like Arsenal as they are way too young to shoulder such heavy responsibilities...After the signing of Gabriel, more funds should have been channeled to improve the attack and midfield whilst they paper over the cracks in defense with bargain buys.

Lastly, one of Auba or Lacazette should have been or rather should be moved on for a younger and more prolific forward...

Actually, the backup players were highly needed. The main grouse most of us are angry here is really that £80m wasted on both ramsdale and White and not selling xhaka instead giving him improved contracts. Those 3 decisions is what is indirectly affecting arsenal esp as crucial area of the pitch are left unattended to

Aside that, everything you wrote up there is facts 100%

Just read yesterday that Brighton was open to Nketiah and cash, but arsenal was insistent on only cash which made us part with £50m.

Also read that Ryan was open to staying with position of a back up role cos his a lifelong arsenal fan, but arsenal decided otherwise.

And yet this club dey write us epistles about how we should be patient cos they're assembling all the youth players in the world to come play for us. They should go read history how fab, nasri and van Persie to name a few jumped ship to better club immediately better club came calling.

Spy, if you no see the hypocrisy from this board esp the 3rd paragraph, then see it now cos we will soon become former big 6 club soon.

Spy360:
Who's is in the wrong company?

Defense first: Edu, Arteta, Spy360, Roland17, Afrodoc2

Attack first: Kokanepyramid, iamoyindamola, Jodera, Akinbahm, Fkhalifa

I've always said we need to improve our midfield and attack, not just attack. No matter how we wanna look at this window, it's a failure.

Except Pepe improves drastically, we don't have anyone aside Auba that can give us 15+ league goals.

Except Odegaard and/or ESR add goals to their games, we don't have any midfielders that can give us 10+ league goals.

The only defender that always look like scoring is Gabriel (excluding White and Tomi who are new signings).

If you add all these things together and you still feel we try for this transfer window, then lemme just say sorry for us

afrodoc2:
Reminds me of Pastor Daniel wey bin dey preach to boys that time for Shodeinde Hall for Unilag. A number of my rugged street guys were on the verge of giving their life to Christ until they found out Pastor Daniel was knacking most of the girls in fellowship.

What the??..

Spy360:
Arteta na good marketer. You need to hear him speak, he will bamboozle you. But when you start seeing tactics or in-game management, you know he is shiit.

Lol.. Anytime I dey hear Arteta press conference before, I dey always get big hope for arsenal, but now, my eye don clear. Nothing wey Arteta fit talk now fit move me.

Na Arteta be all those motivational speakers wey go tell you say you fit start poultry farm with just feather and you go believe with all your heart.

Dem suppose study Arteta sweet mouth for school as a course on its own

Spy360:
How come you got him but didn't get me. You're making feel jealous now.

Lol.. It's the way he passed the points across na.

Spy360:
Lol. Before nko.
Na court we dey.

I own up to the Henderson case. But you have to own up to the Dias case.

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I will own up on Dias case if you can point me 3 out of their 5 player of the year winners who are defenders in their 5 title wins

Meanwhile, thanks for owning up to Henderson's case, e dey very very very needed

mostob:
I heard most of our players are shy...

Dem suppose dey shy with their money too oo

afrodoc2:
As at the start of last season your midfield and attack were Europa level but your defense was just above relegation level. The board has made acquisitions in defense and it remains to be seen how well they will settle in.

Your attacking players were good enough to play well and get better results if you didn't have a manager who decided he had to be defensive minded in order to protect your fragile defense. I know cos we have gone through the same issue at United.

Outside Tierney nobody in the Top 4 is touching any of your relegation level defenders like Kolasinac, Chambers, Holding.

I would pick Martinelli, Saka, ESW, Auba, Partey, Odegard for my team before any of those guys in that back (apart from the excellent Tierney of course). They are just not good enough.

Whether the midfield or attack is helping them is immaterial IMO cos they are not good enough to be defenders at a club like Arsenal. The first question to ask is " in a vacuum is this player good enough to represent the club". Ask that question about Kolasinac, Chambers, Holding.
Mari, Gabriel, White will have the chance to show their quality this season.

The board decided that the worst players in the club were the defenders and spent accordingly. It would not have been reasonable to spend more money on a 6/10 attack and midfield in order to protect a 3/10 defense. Better to just improve the defense and make it 6/10 too.

Now where i would agree with you is that with the recent defensive acquisitions it is high time the board started looking at the midfield and attack, in particular replacing people like the ageing Auba, Laca, and the departed Willian.
And someone has to go to Ghana to confirm Partey's birth certificate.

Well said. I get were you're coming from

afrodoc2:
You guys are actually missing the point.

What is an Arsenal fan's business with whether defense or attack wins titles when you are so far from the conversation. That is just an exercise in football theory and does not have any immediate practical utility.

The questions should be which of your players are good enough to be wearing the shirt of a top or ambitious club like Arsenal?
Where is the weakness in your team? Where do you need to improve?

To answer those questions you should go to the threads of Liverpool, Man City (if they have any fans), Man Utd, Chelshit, or even Bayern and ask them to pick the 3-5 players in your squad that they would accept into their squad if forced to.

Let's see how many of your defenders will make the list, and how many of your midfielders, or attackers will make it. You guys are parading bottom half defenders and expecting top half outcomes.

This here is the issue. Now most of us here didn't deny the fact that our defence is poor or cannot enter into any top 6, what we're saying is that our midfield and attack too can't enter into any top 6 too. Once your midfield and attack is subpar, there's nothing defence can do to hold you up cos eventually "pressure must burst pipe".
There's no way in hell our attack can make top 4 with these midfield and attack. At least I know with Tierney, there's hope that he can force his way into a top 6 team, but you see that midfield and attack, I don't just know who'll even force their way into first team in any of the top 6 team

It's no coincidence we've been toothless in attack in past 3 matches, and even tho coach might have a big hand in it, it also points to the inferiority we have in that midfield and attack, who in turn makes defence looks so so damn bad. I mean, Mari wasn't this bad last season the way he is this part 2 matches.

If I tell you(as a man u fan) to choose any player that will walk into your first 11 in midfield or attack from our team, I'm sure you'll pick none, (maybe except partey who's badly an injury prone player). Same goes to Chelsea fans, Liverpool fan, man city fans, Tottenham fans and even Leicester fans too.

That's how bad our front 2 department are.

Spy360:
Please get my point straight. I did not say EPL player of the year, I said the club's player of the year. The former may be more superior than the latter, but the club and coach in particular knows where their actual strength lies. They chose Dias not KDB.

As for Henderson, tactically he was a defender. Check their playing patterns. It's like saying Salah was a winger, but he was a striker tactically. TAA was a full back but a winger tactically.

All these ones you're saying tactically is just you skewing the talk to suit your narrative. Alexis Sanchez/Mane is known always for helping his fullback wen defending, sometimes even winning the balls. Does that make them a defender? No. Also nobody will call TAA or Robertson wingers.
Like I says earlier, don't muddle up positions just to sound right, it's wrong in every way. Nobody (not even ardent Liverpool fans) will ever call Henderson a defender. Same way no Chelsea fan will call Kante a defender.

Man city have won 5 EPL titles, if I tell you to name their player of the seasons in each of their title wins now, you go run(or change mouth). Just one anomaly wey happen last season, you just run sharp sharp bring defence wins you league as if it's a norm

mostob:
I think we should commend Arteta for keeping us at the top of the table. I just check the 'behind closed door friendly' league table and we are currently first with 3 points and 4 goals difference.

Trust the process

Lol... So na behind close doors Arteta wants now?

Spy360:
Henderson (DM) was POTS when Liverpool won the league.

Ruben Dias (CB) for City when they won the league.

Instead of just refuting my claims, why don't you state yours.

So how is Henderson who is a midfielder now a defender? He's not even a DM but a CM sef. But even if he's a DM, A Midfielder is never a defender. Don't muddle up positions to prove your point.

The player of the year is Kdb. That is the renowned player of the year. Your Dias point will only make sense if no man city player won EPL player of the year or if dias himself won EPL player of the year. Kdb winning EPL player of the year disproves Dias award cos one award is way way greater than the other. We all know who won man city the league and it's Kdb not Dias

iamoyindamola:
Ha
Who the fvck did that
And coincidentally it went from bad to worse

Lol... I swear.
It was that fa cup that gave Arteta all these power he had presently. I guess beating Guardiola with a clean sheet and defeating Chelsea to clinch the fa cup was the assurance the club needed to know they've gotten the next big coach.

Before the new season started, the promoted him from head coach to Manager while giving him some kind of power even Emery no even smell

iamoyindamola:
I thought he's head coach not manager

Pure manager.
He was promoted to manager after his fa cup win

Spy360:
Liverpool had Salah, Mane and Firmino but could not win the league until they bought VVD and Allison. Who was their POTS? A defender.

Man City won the league last season without a striker. Guess who was their player of the season? A defender.

Defense wins you league.

The bolded is a big false.

Also Manchester city won the premier league last season. The EPL player of the season is a midfielder from man city.

With your examples, defence wins you league in da mud!!

Silentgroper:
no his primary position is rb.

Most of profiles I'm seeing is saying Cb but can play Rb

iamoyindamola:
I mean no option to buy on his loan deal
That mean real betis can decide not to buy him after his loan expire

Oh... That's what you meant? Lol see me sef

But wetin dey do arsenal sef. Well the hope is let bellerin shine there, even if betis no buy am, another club fit buy am

iamoyindamola:
26

make we just forget bellerin abeg, him ship don sail.
No need for buyback option abeg

Silentgroper:
According to liverpool, he is a great sport director nd he has a hand in d awakening of liverpool. I no come knw if im dey use video analysis sign players oo. Bt d man na maestro at wat he does. Just in case una no wan chase edu away. He's ur go to guy.

Lol, not only video but in-depth data analysis. He works hand in hand with klopp and video/data analysis experts In order to sign players. Reason why most players you guys sign hardly flop plus he's a good negotiator again.

What I'm just saying in essence is that I'm not sure Liverpool will release him, so no dey give me hope