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LostMyZeal:
Having VDB on the bench is not the problem. It's the fact that fred and co are benching him that's the problem

That, you would agree with me is akin to benching CR7 for lucas vazquez to play.


How the hell is a wizard like VDB on the bench for Fred...Common, you sef check am na. VDB has had just 1 start since this season ...haba....that can't even be called benching.

And that's the coach's issue. Coach sees the Fred as first team player and sees vdb as a bench or squad player. It happens sha.

Well next season, we'll fully assess the situation of Vdb at man u

Android17:
Jodera, ask them to provide proof that Guardiola was signed because of the UCL.

Done!

ouzo1:
U dey always dey on point.

Thanks bro

Illimitable:
You are one of the most stupid people on the planet. The manager before him won the league title. Every manager City hired has won the league title since the Arab owners took over. What progress?

Man City didn’t sign Pep to win the PL, they were doing well without him in the league. Their biggest desire was the European glory. Mancini won the league, Pellegrini won the league but your stupidity has beclouded your 2 lean brain cells.

I want my club to spend that much because they make that much in revenue and that was the reason the FFP was created. To make clubs spend what they generate as a club instead of money laundering from their owners.

If you are too stupid to understand that simple context, why are you even here pretending to understand football finance? As big as you are, you don’t understand the difference between the revenue generated by a club and the money pumped into a club by rich owners?

Your Christian name should be stupidity.

Look at SI unit of foolishness and idiocy is calling me stupid. Look at the mirror and you'll see the definition and image of what stupidity looks like.

So this is like his 2nd time he is extending his contract all without reaching a semi final in UCL but your foolish-warped mind tells you is only UCL they contracted him to win. Tell me which of man city coach have successfully did league double consistently like guardiola? A coach is brought to win UCL yet his given extended contract after each failure. Doesn't that confirms you're stupid? Lest I forget, bring the proof that he was signed to win UCL else you'll confirm your stupidity, foolishness and idiocy to everybody here


And if you think your club without Glazers will be able to spend consistently just like man city owners to the tune of £1b within 5-7yrs, then you are more stupid than even the word stupid itself.

What's even paining me is just that Albert Einstein is not alive at this time. If he was, he'll be able to use your brain to develop formulae to calculate foolishness. Your own breed of foolishness is rare. It will be sad that it'll just go to waste without proper use and recycling

popizaino:
Even the quality is still very subjective though and the truth of the matter is that none of this pep Guardiola's signing would have been recommended by united fans in the first place,because they deem them not quality enough .

Fred now is a bench player, but if guardiola had used Fred well, you'll see how people will be talking how Fred is a quality player. Your jorginho nko? Before tuchel came, he was a liability. If guardiola had gotten him and used him to good effect, he would have been called a midfield maestro to high heavens..
Everything is just subjective, and we wouldn't have known if all those players where donning man u Jersey, whether half of them wouldn't have been sold by now .

Another skill about guardiola nobody talks about is how he keeps talented squad on the bench without any player breathing down his neck to start. Ordinary vdb wey dey bench(Just 1 o), people are saying he might leave cos he's not getting playing time. What if Man u have like 3 or 5 VDBs

SodO9:
The issue is we can't get Martinez or any good keeper at 20m
Another bad business done

I swear. Chai.

Really really sad!!

Leyqute:
Aren’t we saying the same thing ?

The bolded part is just the aftermath. It wouldn't have mattered if he had a coach like Wenger, who treated ozil respectfully even when he was undergoing a bad patch. You think ozil didn't see arsenal as a downgrade or he loved arsenal at first? But what made him stayed was because of the connection and respect he had with the coach which was mutual. Ozil too would have ran if he encountered van gaal and di Maria would have stayed longer if a wenger-like coach was in charge instead of a van gaal

Illimitable:
You are too stupid to understand context.

Pep inherited a team that made semifinal & he was only able to make it after 5 seasons with $1 billion spent.

Is that progression or regression?

I want United to spend lots of money because United as a club generate lots of money. I would rather the money made by United is spent on United rather than the pockets of the Glazers or loan repayments.

I don’t expect you to understand though, this discourse is for the high IQ folks. Once it’s time to discuss the daily delivery of NAPEP bikes, I would consult your valued expertise in that field.

You are too daft to understand football finance.

The way you chat shiit here, I won't be surprised if you literally chat using your anus. The kind of stench you ooze most times is terrible.

So now it's progression and regression of previous season that determines one's spending shey? So to you, guardiola came only to England to make progress in UCL only. While you felt he regressed in UCL, you foolish high IQ won't tell you he progressed in league 4th-3rd shey. Progression and regression is all about moving from s/f to final and vice versa in your high IQ mind, and not about trophies again.
All these shalaye just to prove that you're a hypocrite who needs your club to spend £1b but is criticizing someone who spent such.

I won't be surprise if actually you use your anus to talk cos the only thing that comes out your illimitable mouth anus when you speak and type is....Shit!!!

SodO9:
I actually saw it on BBC sport transfer gossip too same day

Hmmm... If true, this is serious, and it'll surely make the club regret their decision early this season

Leyqute:
You didn’t get me.

Madrid may not want DiMaria again but the Man Utd project wasn’t appealing to him. They had to use money- lots of it- to make it appealing to him. So when he met with some difficulty, he downed tools and didn’t even try to make any impact.

I saw someone compare the scenario with Ozjl’s move to Arsenal. Ozil was interested in whatever Arsene discussed with him. That’s why he came and didn’t down tools at the sight of any difficulty.

Now, with Neymar and PSG, do you think Neymar would, on a normal ground, want to play for PSG? The money played too much an important role. That’s why he’s playing rubbish for them in important UCL matches and no one could reprimand him. The cost of landing was so much that it gave him too much power. Cavani dragged a penalty with him and his career at the club ended. It is what it is.

City is smart in this regard. Their main attraction before, was the money. But they’re smart about it. They may pay a lot of money for a player, but they won’t make it too much.

They smartly backed out of the Alexis Sanchez deal because if they agreed to his demand they’d be giving him too much power. United didn’t have that sense at that time. They’re just starting to realize that you don’t just throw money at everything. But I just hope it’s not too late.

Are you sure? You feel the signing of depay, falcao et al alongside him was for a project not appealing? You feel it's not to claim back what you guys felt was rightfully yours (which was the project).

From my understanding, reason why he flopped and wanted out was because of how van gaal treated him. The treatment of van gaal coupled with how he didn't like life at Manchester made him flee(after all he had no connection nor love for Manchester before sef)

raumdeuter:
I won't say firing the coaches was wrong if they were not delivering. The problem was hiring the wrong coaches to start with. You hired someone like Mourinho and LvG. See how their career was going before and after Man Utd

LvG sacked Bayern in 2011, he went into semi retirement with the Dutch National team, Man Utd hired him, after Man Utd he hasnt coached anyone again

Mourinho sacked by Madrid and Chelsea then Man Utd signed him. Since Man Utd, he has been fired by Spurs and now hired by Roma

Ole what was his credentials before hiring? I know he was brought to be an interim but overperformed during the interim regime

I won't blame Glazer for this, They are businessmen, Someone recommended the coaches and they paid. Just like someone recommended Pep to Mansoor and he paid

True, the mistake was not really getting coach of high quality then. Tho I might admit they felt they made a right choice in hiring van gaal, but the hiring of Moyes and mourinho was such a bad bad choice and that's what I felt drifted them backwards. If they had gotten a good coach, while they might not have spent like man city, but they won't have been far away from them the way they are now.

That's why I felt it was the coach was where they got it wrong.

popizaino:
Precisely,if we go back to unearth some post,we will see that man united fans were the ones who actually clamour for every players the clubs signed in this past years but they want to turn around and blame everyone except themselves because they are not doing well enough .

Lol... I know I've man u fans around me plus my sister is a die hard fan. Also, I was also a guest reading here then. I knew how here went frenzy during the 2014/15 season. But then, time makes people forgetful and they tend to forget how excited they were with those signings. I'm sure most people have forgotten Schneiderlin played for man u sef, till it was brought up, not to talk of remembering how good he was

SodO9:
On this week's episode of we sold the wrong keeper
Leno want out of arsenal, he already told the club of his intention.
To think we sold our best keeper just to keep him, now we have to spend more than 20m to get a good keeper

Any link to this?

Expert17:
No bro, na Agenda

Oh illimita.ble dey agend?
Ah... Interesting

Expert17:
HEHEHEHE

Lol... But na true na.
If people dey bring that £1b shii to diss guardiola, illi.mitable no suppose join dem. Cos weeks ago he was praising man city how they spent well which yielded them the success they have now while insulting his club's owners. So why now turn around to diss same coach for requesting for such amount from his owners when you're acknowledging that's the requirement for success?

Isn't that confusion?

raumdeuter:
All I see are revisionism

Man Utd spent good money bought players the coaches messed up not the owners fault

Pep was going for Maguire, Fred and Alexis before Man Utd hijacked them, Assuming Pep got them, the same fans will say, what was Glazer looking at while Pep was getting these good players

Mahrez was in the market for 2 seasons no one looked at him, Pep signed him now they are saying he is the greatest. John Stones that everyone used to laugh at is now the great defender. If Man Utd had bought John Stones, I wonder the type of abuse Glazers would have received.

Every shouting Sporting Director, How many clubs in England had them? In England the manager assumes all these roles like Ferguson and Wenger did

Exactly my point. What caused man u setback is chop and change of coaches. Most will say guardiola spent £1b but nobody will talk about the stability and easy players' transitioning he brought unlike the chop and change been experienced by man u.

Van gaal bought good young players... Only shaw and martial is present.
Mourinho bought players... Only Bailly, lindelof, pogba, fred is present. And Mou is just the most recent coach.

I won't call Moyes cos he didn't get much players he'd have loved.


Changing coach and starting afresh when no be sugar daddy dey sponsor club

Illimitable:
The greatest manager of all time - unlike that bald fraud at Man City that needed $1 billion to get into UCL semifinal.

.....Says the fraud who wants his team to spend £1b in order to compete with Man city.

You and confusion na 5&6

BlueRayDick:
E shock u abi? Na so spy dey talk things wey dey shock me once in a while o

Lol... As I read am, I no even know wetin I wan talk sef

TLona1:
Whoever came up with tweet is senseless TBH.

Very very Useless and senseless

handelex:
Look away bro

handelex:
Well for the records, December will make it 3yrs

We're still on course to win EL the almighty trophy Mourinho won

And were talking Poch and his progress at PSG so don't shift goalpost on me eh

How I wish Ryan will Mann the post against Villarreal. He look good in his command of box, he knows when to pass and when to go long and has a good communication with his back line.

Auba was recuperating in that match, I could visibly see it. Thank God he scored. I hope by Thurs he'll be fully fit and ready. As for martinelli, why Arteta doesn't play him esp as 9 is alarming. Can play both the wing and 9 role well and he's one of our direct and fearless winger alongside Saka.


David Luiz issa big miss sha.

Well, hoping we turn it on by Thurs and get the win

Spy360:
He is tactically flexible and thats what gives him the edge. I can't blame you for not seeing it. You are not a coach, are you?

Lol... Chambers?
A tactically flexible Good Rb?

Okayy oo

Leyqute:
There’s nothing wrong with persuading top players to join your club but when you go overboard you start looking desperate and are at the whim of the player. Look at Neymar and PSG

Man u persuaded di Maria to come, they were not desperate. Madrid told di Maria to go and start looking for club, which means he is no more needed at Madrid again. How then is it wrong for man u to convince him that man u is the club that he'll be really needed. In fact, what other way is it to show that he'll be needed than giving him the no 7 iconic shirt?

Neymar to PSG is different. Barca needed and wanted neymar, PSG used money and Main man tag(which most players love) to snatch him away from barca.

So in my opinion, PSG and man u cases are way different

handelex:
So you're saying after everything that happened with him and the brief period he was at United, it wasn't a bad decision in retrospect?

Also are you implying he deliberately downed tools just to leave cos you cited Ozil as a player who still shone at Arsenal despite not wanting to leave Madrid?

1... At your first question. Yes, it wasn't a bad decision by the board. The board saw a good player at his prime available, as quick as they are, they pounced and got him at a fair price as at then. One thing is to buy di maria from madrid, another thing is to hope di Maria shines in your club. Buying him at such time, his kind of hot form then and his prime is never a bad decision by anyone involved. It is like you clamouring for Ndidi for your club and Ndidi flops woefully, would you turn around and say it was a bad decision for man u to sign Ndidi?

2... He never downed tools, I never implied that. He flopped just same way shevchenko or torres flopped at Chelsea, and he never had a coach who should believe in him as he's transitioning into life in England. All the news about how he didn't really like Manchester came wen he wanted to force his move to PSG and not before or during his brief bright spell at man u. So to me, that's just a good excuse to ball out. Maybe if he had a coach that believed in him no matter what just like how Wenger treated ozil, he might have stayed in man u for longer

weedtaker:
Every member on dis board belongs to one of the group.. you can disagree with some of their Beliefs but you must belong to one.. me sha the citadel for the time been, I fit port next season.

lol... You sure?

Person like Tim.bros or Popi.zaino will attack Air.mark today then tomorrow he'll attack Da.yo.

Person of same group no suppose dey attack themselves na

handelex:
Tbh he never wanted to leave Madrid at all. He saw United as a downgrade and was sulking. That is a red flag on its own.
The bolded proves he never wanted to be here but there was money anyway, so immediately PSG came he didn't blink twice. The sum total of all these shows it was a bad decision all in all.

Lol at the bolded.

Even ozil never wanted to leave Madrid, he was forced out. Yet he still shone at arsenal. Higuain was forced out at Madrid yet still shone at Napoli. Many good players have been forced out at clubs they loved, that doesn't mean it's a bad sign for the next club that wants sign them.

Okayy let's alternate it. Remember Sanchez, how he really wanted to leave arsenal at last he got his wish and went to man u.
What did he say after he flopped at man u? He said that just the first training he had, he wished he should tear his contract and go back to arsenal.
All those shalaye was because he flopped, if he didn't flop, he would have been singing praises like van persie on how the little boy in him told him man u .

So guy all those shalaye players dey give na excuse and not necessarily the fault of the club who signed them

weedtaker:
Apari sports then.

No oooo.
I'm just strictly guardiola, just like Popizaino. Any other agenda, I no dey oo

Apari sports entails many many things including beefing hazard

KingTom:
I agree 100% my mother has resigned herself now to her fate na the occasional 'mtchew, mtchew, this Arsenal no be team oh Arsenal pride of London, mtchew mtchew' more hisses follow at the final whistle sha My mother's patience with Arsenal baffles me till today

Lol... Now you understand my point

handelex:
Bottom line, DiMaria was a bad decision. Whether it would have worked out not doesn't matter cos it didn't work out. Facts.

How was it a bad decision?
Just because he doesn't like the weather?
Should I start listing players who shone at their respective clubs in England but at first didn't like the weather?
Him saying he didn't like the weather is just an added excuse to ball out. Person wey wan shine go shine

weedtaker:
Are you Citadel or Apari sports?

Lol...
I'm always Pro-guardiola

KingTom:
Una no riot for the "I almost signed, I almost signed" wey Prof. Wenger bin dey do na

Arsenal fans and man u fans no dey the same na