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swiz123:
That's why I blame him. His first instinct should have been to let the ball roll to his stronger foot. Da guy just likes rushing things. Always in a hurry.

Simple. I'm very sure user09 won't be lenient with him if Werner was donning Chelsea Jersey and Chelsea eventually lost that match.

He just saying this cos nothing concern this (germany) match and him. No German fan would give that flimsy excuse user gave

chidexxy007:
Money killed it plus there's a dearth in football talent-wise these days

I don't believe there's a dearth of talent-wise these days. I believe there's less demand for such talent these days.
Players who entertains are seen as "showboaters" and are not taken serious nowadays. Permit me to say caliber of ronaldinho or okocha might become bench players nowadays or they'll be warned seriously by coaches not to do such a thing in the pitch if they want to be seeing shirt regularly

Leyqute:
Mehn. Watching Ronaldinho was fun. Much fun than watching Messi, I would say.

This is just like saying water is wet cos everyone who watched those two play knows that.
But then, like it's been said earlier, stats have killed football. And football nowadays is drifting away from art (that it was before) to more of "mathematics" (if you'll permit me to use that), thereby taking away some of the entertainment factor we do cherish.
Everything now is calculated. Passes o, shot o, marking oo. The overemphasis of all these things makes football more boring cos players are not allowed room for innovation and creativity.

User09:
Cant understand the overeaction

Clearly a mishit on his weaker foot is all I saw there

Why then should he use his weaker foot in that situation? Not that he was pressured using his weaker foot oo. He has all the time to use any foot he wanted in that situation.

Werner has no excuse missing that at all

GoldenJAT:
You de mind the guy? I can boldly beat my chest,that the said guys making everyone look like a lazy person,is still stuck with a 7–5 job!.
When 90–95% of people in a country are struggling despite efforts made, then the problem is no longer with the citizens, but with such a country (NIGERIA).
It is even our hustling mentality that has kept us going this far! IF NOT!!!

check sef, most of them that do rant like that don't even have a job. They just say all those things to sound smart. Someone who struggle with this harsh economy of a country called naija and make it successfully won't be so guilt-tripping with their words to others

ThatFairGuy1:
Reality will soon dawn on you all.

You'll tell us how many graduates abroad waits for Government jobs aside health practitioners.


Be looking for imaginary job and not use your initiative to create one and live big

one thing with you is that you're comparing abroad with Nigeria. But then, there are contrasting in different department

1... Their system of education teaches you to create jobs and think out of the box. Ours teaches us to look for job and ensure we pass with first class(not thinking out of the box).. We only realize that we need to create job after we've graduated. How then do you want people who have been taught on "how to look for jobs" for over 15years of their lives now be the creator? Why do you think the sudden rise of "school na scam" is rampant?

2... Their environment and teaching schedule aids one to start a business opportunity (one can work while still schooling, without it affecting their education). While here, it's not easy. Not only is lectures running from 8-5 mostly but you can't easily hutsle and marry your book together(not saying it's not done but people who are successful in grades doing such are very few). So it'll be difficult raising money to start a business after school in Nigeria compared to abroad where money can be raised from your part time work

3... The environment factor again. One thing killing business is electricity. You can't compare Nigeria electricity to that of most advanced countries where jobs are created

Some times, you "motivational speakers" don't look at context before talking. It's the duty of a country to provide enabling environment for a business to thrive for its citizens. Just because few people made it doesn't mean that it's not the job of the country to make business to thrive for its citizens.

ShadowCracker:
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Look at some of these players let us be honest are they good enough.
Frabrotta- Average player only reasons he players is because Sandro is no better .
Danilo- Bench warmer at City and Madrid, squad player at best.
Only reason why he starts is because, Cuadrado is no better.
Bentacur- I prefer Kovacic to this guy, he is so useless.
Morata- I prefer not to speak .

C.Ronaldo, Chiesa and Ramsey are the only player on Juventus level.
Bonnucci, Sczenezy and Chellini would soon be phased out gradually by don Pirlo .

Do you know that the person danilo replaced with is presently seeing first team shirt in man city (cancelo). If cancelo was still at juve, you would still have branded him a flop cos obviously he was still a bench warmer at juve then.

ShadowCracker:
De ligt has not performed in Italy, it is not Pirlo’s fault even under Sarri he was dreadful, it was one of the primary reason Sarri was sacked.
Failure to get the best out of De ligt.

Pirlo did not sign Ramsey, Rabiot, and Bernardeshi.
Ramsey has been better under Pirlo than Sarri, under Sarri Ramsey could not even get regular game time, some faction in Italy were already labeling him a flop.
Pirlo rejuvenated Ramsey, one of the good things about his tenure.

Bernardeshi has also failed to perform in Juventus even since Sarri’s tenure, still not Pirlo’s fault.
Bernardeshi is game style is simple “cut in onto his left foot and curl it”, very easy to defend against.

Rabiot has been decent but he is a squad player at best.

Arthur next Xavi is a flop both at Barca and Juve, this is not also Pirlo’s fault.
Just ask Barca about Arthur they would tell you about him, overhyped piece of trash.

I have said it before Kulusevski, Mckennie, Chiesa, De ligt, and Demiral are the future but due to different circumstances they are not able to feature regularly.
Next season they would be fully integrated regularly in the team.

Whether pirlo signed or not is not the bone of contention here.
The koko is that juve have young and exciting players they invested in. It's up for pirlo to bring out the best in them. You can't compare that inter squad to juve squad.
Give conte this squad and pirlo inter squad and it'll be same you who will call lukaku and Young Man u rejects, eriksen Tottenham reject, Sanchez EPL/man u flop, and so on.

All these players not performing at once is all down to the coach

ShadowCracker:
Nah man, it is not agenda based it is just cold facts, I am very sure you know that except you want to be sentimental.

Everybody likes blaming the manger when things go wrong, sometimes it is not the manager’s fault, there is little one can do with that Juve squad.

There is a time in a squad where you have to move on some set of players, it not that they are not good, but they are simply not good enough to lead to the future.

Juventus will be back, Pirlo just needs to clear some off the finished players.

Once a great deal of players aren't performing in a club, it's the coach's fault. Maybe it's his tactics, maybe he's not pushing them enough. So if 9 first team players aren't performing, who should we blame. The players
Nah, it doesn't work that way.

Before Juve needs to move on, pirlo needs to start getting results with these present squad first, before he'll be trusted enough to buy his own kind of players.

ShadowCracker:
Players depreciate if you don't know that I can't help you.
These players are not good enough to lead Juve to the future, Inter have been investing in young talents like Hakimi, Latuaro, Lukaku, Barella, Bastoni, while Juve have been carrying deadwoods on their squad.
It was only a matter of time before the table turns.

If they sack Pirlo they would still have to sign quality players, no coach can achieve anything tangible with these set of players.

juve invested in mckennie, kuluveski, bernadeschi, chiesa, rabiot, de ligt, Ramsey, Arthur

If you look at that juve squad and inter squad and still think inter has more quality players than juve, then I don't know what to tell you

raumdeuter:
na all these flop this flop that carry dem win 9 Serie A and reach 2 CL finals o. Suddenly Pirlo come everyone turn flop

A bad workman blames his tools. These players won even with Sarri last season

Help me ask am ooo.

Everybody from gk down to striker is branded flop. The only person not mentioned is C.Ronaldo and that's because he's C.Ronaldo. lol

The rest flops
The chiesa and McKennie that tried are not ready(according to him)

Everybody is flop or are not ready, except of course Don Pirlo

ShadowCracker:
Players depreciate if you don't know that I can't help you.
These players are not good enough to lead Juve to the future, Inter have been investing in young talents like Hakimi, Latuaro, Lukaku, Barella, Bastoni, while Juve have been carrying deadwoods on their squad.
It was only a matter of time before the table turns.

If they sack Pirlo they would still have to sign quality players, no coach can achieve anything tangible with these set of players.

If you'd said the bolded, I wouldn't have quoted you. But you calling sczenny and cuadrado arsenal and Chelsea flop respectively after how many years of being in juventus with consistent performance is just you not being entirely honest with your assessment about them.
It's just like you calling salah and kdb Chelsea flop(or reject) just because they're going through a rough patch in their respective clubs. It just made your assessment about them agenda-based

ShadowCracker:
Nah Pirlo got tactics, don't compare him to Lampard and Ole.
His problems are actually not his fault.
- Juventus don't have a striker, they managed to release frauds with high salaries like Higuain and Madzukic, but they could only afford a Chelsea flop Morata.
- Juventus don't have a left-back, Alex sandro is finished, no cash they have to use danilo or another flop bernadeshi there.
- They need to move on from bonucci and chellini, but de ligt has also been a massive flop. Demiral who has been decent can't stay fit, Danilo has to play at cb sometimes.
- Juventus don't have a 10, Dybala is surplus to requirements, they need to cash him in.
- GK:Schezny - Arsenal reject, Rb:Cuadrado - Chelsea flop, Cb/lb/rb:Danilo - City bench warmer, cm:Bentacur - Average academy graduate.
St: Morata - Chelsea flop.
These are players that are regular at Juve, players that are simply not good enough.
- Chiesa, Kulusevki, and Mckennie are the future but are not ready yet.

You just they call every, "Chelsea flop, arsenal flop, Roma flop". Yet these same " flops" have been carrying leagues before sarri and pirlo came.
It's now you remember sczeneny is an arsenal flop, cuadrado is a Chelsea flop, dybala is another flop(amazing), after how many years?.


But then why am I surprised, after all, is it not you that branded almost all your players flops before tuchel was appointed.

iamoyindamola:
Ødegaard was subbed off early in the second half with what look like ankle injury

Well, it was a precautionary sub. The coach even said he'll be available for their next match sef

Android17:
Some things we read here and feel like crying.

popizaino:
And you saw all this in our game against Bayern muniocre ?

Yes, if my memory serves me right

LostMyZeal:
Azin ehh...tho it's a bit exaggerated for them to lose 5 consecutive home games

Are you being generous here? It's 6 consecutive home loss.
And I think 1 or 2 wins since the turn of the year.
This is so so bad for a top club like Liverpool. Covid or no covid

LostMyZeal:
Exactly... that's why I detest stats
Firmino made that deadly team tick

Klopp has obviously ran the team to the ground though

Big time.
And it hit dem hard.
Thank goodness they carried league, else..

LostMyZeal:
Omo...I lost faith in the discourse when he said Firmino na useless striker
Klopp rarely designates him to get the goals but mainly to create

Lol... That's what raum don't want to understand.
Maybe 50yrs from now, people might forget who firmino is for Liverpoo while remembering salah and mane, and it's all good.(after all it's an unfair world)
But even the salah and mane knows that they mostly click cos of firmino. But then, stats won't say all these things

No present right thinking Liverpool fan will say firmino was a carry along in their winning campaigns

raumdeuter:
That is the textbook definition of vibes or activity forming. If Salah and Mane were also busy making it fluid, liquid or gaseous where will they be?

That's it. Everybody can't do that. He complements them very well. It's just the setup, the way klopp wants it
To klopp, that's he ideal kind of striker he wants, that suits his setup perfectly.
Why then would you wanna think otherwise.

Take benzema for example, he's a striker, but has to sacrifice his play for Ronaldo.
Does that make him a carry along

popizaino:
Tell us what defensive football is before we start and don't forget I am only responsible for what I write here and not what you make out of it .

Defensive football is when in greater part of the game, you have almost all your men camped in your own half or even more, camped in the box, defending.

raumdeuter:
Salah contributes goals in big numbers, Mane contributes goals in numbers, What does Firmino contribute aside vibes?

In the game vs Atletico in March 2020, I heard the commentator say Firmino has not scored in Anfield for almost 12months. That is someone you call a striker

Reason why I said you live for stats.

No Liverpool fan or klopp will tell you that firmino was a carry along or was doing vibes. When you watch ball, there are some players you know makes attack fluid. And when presented with opportunities to score, they score.
Firmino is one of those attackers.

Stats won't tell you all these numbers

LostMyZeal:
Azin ehh... maybe the ram is on a cruise sha

Lol... Na real cruise him wan catch

raumdeuter:
What was Firminos uselesfulness.

In their front 3 rate them on their importance to the team
Many Liverpool fans were hoping Jota will replace Frmino for good

If you are doing something good, there will be a stat to measure it

of course, the bolded is understandable.
Firmino dropped form after the restart of league post covid, and he carried his bad form into this season. Jota came in and immediately shone, so it's very understandable for fans urging firmino to be relegated to the bench.

But we're talking about his contribution to their winning campaigns (EPL and UCL). He was very very instrumental to both alongside salah and mane

raumdeuter:
Salah Mane Robertson Henderson Allison VVD Trent are all more important to Liverpool than Firmino
That is why Klopp has to defend Firmino all the time, How many times does he have to defend Salah?
Salahs work speaks for him

All the time?
Aside this season, I don't see klopp defending firmino.
Klopp never defended him during their champions league run, and he never defended him during their EPL winning campaign.

Henderson more important than firmino?
I laugh

Also, while I'll agree that vvd, salah et all(aside Henderson) are very important in their positions to Liverpool success, so also is firmino too, to Liverpool success.
Henderson can easily be replaced, but not those others can.

Na only person wey dey watch ball through stats will say firmino wasn't instrumental in both of their winning campaigns

popizaino:
What is defensive football before we start .....and whilst you are it,show me were I talked about our semi final match.

No difference between his you played against barca and how you played Bayern na. So if you believed you played defensive football against barca, then obviously you played defensive football against Bayern too.

See, everyone knows what defensive football is. Except you wanna change what it really means for us

LostMyZeal:
Ooh...so, Firmino is not even among the Top 5 performers in Klopp's Liverpool?

I just learnt something new today

You're obviously deceived by Bobby's goal input and that's understandable.

I say again... you can never call Jurgen Klopp's famous Liverpool without calling Firmino first


Bobby is the unsung hero in Klopp's Liverpool team.

Even Klopp will pluck his eyes for spewing such blasphemy with confidence.

No Liverpool fan will see firmino and claim he's a carry along in that their UCL and EPL winning campaigns

popizaino:
Abeg who normalized this shit of calling every team with less possession of the ball a defensive team or playing defensive football? In 2012 against Bayer Munich, we tried to string up passes but we were overpowered because our AM and wingers were weakling who treated the ball like fires,lot possessions under the slightest pressure, thereby exposing our midfield and backline all the time. It's not like we had eleven men behind the ball,Drogba was most times in between their CB waiting and not in our own half so how do you call such a pattern a defensive football kwanu ?

How will you look that semi final and final(especially) and say it's not defensive footbal Bros?

Gbas gbos Everywhere

KingAlabi:
Na last year greenwood and Saka collect, them no be small boys again.

Lol... Okayy

KingAlabi:
Saka, greenwood and foden were born before April 1 2002 I guess, because that's what the list is made of.

ok.. I was surprised not seeing greenwood or saka name there, while seeing some funny names

adebayo201:
What we have then is midfielders but now, it miders. They don't field anything.

Chai