Trevor012: I am not bringing up side way assist because of anything related to the Chelsea thread. I use my eyes to judge a player and I haven't seen any defense splitting pass or clear cut chances Bruno is creating for our forwards. Most of his assists are Set pieces or passes sideways then followed by individual brilliance from the player e.g Pogba goal against Westham, Mctominay against Leeds, Rashford against Brighton, Rashford against wolves aided by deflection, Cavani against Everton was a sideway pass etc
ChristineC: Open play assist, dead ball assists have always been documented even on stats domains. I have not seen type of open play assists, have you?
ChristineC: 22 goals 17 assists for Lampard in 3220' in 2009/2010 season 10 penalties, 5 deflected free kicks and 4 deflected long shots 9 open play assists
ChristineC: since I have been on NL though, I have not seen any club thread debate the "type of assist" in a match. have you?
Lol... Yesso
You've not been to Chelsea thread then oo. It was them that brought type of assist o.. "Open play and close play assist" why do you think tre.vor is bringing up "side way assist"
sod09: I think we should sell nketiah and allow balogun stay, he can still fetch us 15-20m win win for us Nketiah got his chances yet failed. If balogun go and become another gnarby that's lose lose for us We should sell one of willock/ nelson
I agree with what you said tho. But we just dey look the board for now, and I think Arteta fancies nketiah more
ChristineC: funny and the sideways assist passes are banned for players from Emirates and Stamford. did it show you that Fernandes created 37 chances by Game Week 11? did it also shows you that Fernandes averages 3.9 xA?
Lol.... I was specific about the video I watched, and if you watch it too, you will see what I'm saying without being sentimental.
I'm not doubting he isn't a good player or sort, what I'm saying is that the assists he gave for last season, most where side passes (at least, the video proved the point)
Melvyn11: But you are right o. I went on youtube and almost 90% of his assists are 5 to 10meter sideway passes and set piece. This is who somebody was comparing to Kdb SMH.
sod09: Torreira is flopping at arsenal doesn't make him a bad player, westham hardly play with cd they prefer versatile kind of player like anthonio. I understand why dockie is attacking, I went to drag their lord and saviour(penalty merchant) for ghosting in big games it's like I striked some nerves
sod09: Especially when we see how mari fitted into the team after coming back from injury, then we have martinelli i'm sorry he is not 100m but when you see his performance you will know he is a big player and we are now injecting academy products into the team like ESR,Balogun etc All these players can be mistaken for new signings,the fans doesn't know what we face in the TM where players values are high. Na thunder go strike wengay where ever he is
mostob: You grab In Arsene 's voice : Partey is back in full training. we also have Gabriel back from isolation. Nelson will resume training in the next two weeks. Those players will be like new signings considering their impacts. So, I don't think we will be involved heavily in this window.
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Apt and perfect!!.
Add: considering our upturn in results in recent months, those boys will inject positivity into the camp. We also add chambers who we're still accessing and waiting for his return, with that I don't think we'll be active in the transfer window
Lana1: My post had nothing to do with Klopp's statement rather about how Chelsea and Liverpool fans are the ones who cry the most about United getting penalties
Klopp talked about the years he spent at liverpool that you guys have more penalties than them(or anyone), yet you've to bring the records of even klopp fore fathers.
If you want to debunk klopps claim, bring the stats of when he started at Liverpool whether he's blabbing or not.
Spy360: In Game of Thrones, Bran asked his father why if the man that deserted because he saw white walkers was lying. "A mad man sees what he sees" Ned replied.
I could say you are wrong, but "mad man sees what he sees".
That season Emery preferred Torriera for the same reasons Arteta prefers Elneny. These are two different types of players with different qualities. If Arteta decides to have a sitting DM then Torriera is the player of choice. But Arteta wants someone who can receive the ball from the goalie and transition it till gets to the opposition box. In that respect, Elneny is better. We have seen this countless times, no need to argue.
Spy360: Why is Torriera not part of Arteta's plans despite being a good player?
The answer boils down to the player type and skill set.
Torriera is a destroyer type of DM, his strength is on tracking the ball and interceptions.
But that's not the midfielder Arteta wants, he wants a distributor, one who can pick the ball from deep and pass it until it gets to the final third. A possession based player. This is where Elneny fits in.
Conclusion : Unless Arteta changes his tactical plan, Torriera is not coming back except he adapts.
Elneny like Ceballos and Xhaka will remain integral to Arteta's plans until we get better options.
The torreira from first season with us is a good destroyer and can also transition ball forward. Maybe my eyes is deceiving me then, but torreira I was watching in arsenal is good with the ball, can progress ball forward and can pass. No wonder he was one of our best player during his first season Where Emery killed everything was making torreira play an "Am" role or advanced role in the 2nd season.
Maybe you can talk of height, that's the reason Arteta doesn't rate torreira (some coaches are like that), but in terms of ball progression, passes, forward movement and defence, torreira beats elneny hands down. And if elneny can see spot in the squad, then I don't know why torreira can't