₦airaland Forum

let take a look at this chapter.

The Beginning

Genesis 1 vs 11

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. God called the vault “sky.”

And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.

God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

UrbanMystique: i gave 3 options there..
okay, now that you agree that universe is endless (which to me could 50:50), you cancelled out option 2.
which means its impossible for god to create the universe.

now left with option, 1 and 3.

if universe created god, what is the point of worshiping god and not universal. which brings follow up question, if universe can be very intelligent enough to create a god, how are we sure it isnt the same universe that created humans and put the gods to lord of humans like we lord over other animals? or of what use is god to universe?

it's possible because the space is first before anything. So over a trillion years the space can create God.

Let me tell you something. The christian God according to the bible created the earth. Not the universe. It was never recorded that the bible God created the universe. The genesis only only talking about the earth. So its possible that there might be many God who created another earth somewhere.

emtimes: u got it, space cannot be God and, space seems to be a thing, it must be created by something who is not a thing but a superbeing. God might have not mention space cause it didnt concern us

I find this low thinking. Is like you don't know what is space.

If you say space can be created then from where? Something must have occupied it before it was created by your logic.

Let me correct you space is not a thing and therefore it cannot be created. Rather space is what create things as space is not a thing.

There is only two things which is space and thing

UrbanMystique: 1, if universe created god, then god is the universe.
2, if god created universe, then he must be out of this universe to create this universe. (e.g its impossible to be in a computer to create a computer)
3, if universe created god, why do we have to worship god and not the universe? the god's god. the universe is the almighty. because without universe there wont be any god.

finally, this topic get as e be.

my friend the universe has no ending. Its unlimited. So where can He create it from another universe? Its not possible. We only have one universe that housing all things. The universe has no end. So all things in it must be created inside it. You get that?

krall: Joel are you a christian?

currently I think my brain is above religion or atheism. I am a philosopher and I decide to be neutral and free thinker. this is the only way you can think properly and see things differently and clearer.

emtimes: Before you ask such question you should remember you are human and your knowledge is limited. if the universe made God then, the universe is the God. universe didnt give us the ten commandments. who knows the 'universe', we see it the way God wanted us to maybe he sees it as something else.

My friend Space cannot be God. The christian God never said he was space. Neither did He mentioned the universe. In ancient time the jews thought that the earth was the universe they never thought there were other planet. They even though the sun rotate they never knew it was the earth that actually rotate. They thought the sun was small . They never knew the Sun was bigger than the earth.

And God never said anything concerning this things in the bible.

yes ofcource I said the universe not earth. the earth is just like a seed of a single dust in the universe. just to describe how big the universe is.

When one say Space or outer space its same at the whole of the universe.

I need people with bigger brain on this interesting topic. Not small brains.

its very clear that one cannot create space. Rather space create things. If there is not space. Then something solid must occupy it. And the solid must have ending which will also be inside space. Only space cannot have ending.

krall: No offence Mr. Joel, but u must be *AD

can you explain what's AD?

this topic is not for critics or for religious bigot. on this topic we will be looking at the universe. I am not talking of the solar system. But the universe and the things found in the universe.


Looking at the universe its an empty space. unlimited space that is so big with no ending. Its very clear that universe will have to be the oldest thing that created every other things.

while still looking at it There are trillions of bigger planets, the stars that's even bigger than the earth they are still on this universe. and its very likely to be possible that there might even be another solar system where people live that is far away. Which is beyond the powers of travel ship to embank on.

Now the space is without limit. Empty and Darkness which housing planet. God cannot create the space. The space must have created God and the planet over time.

Now what do you guys think.

For intelligent mind only.

its time people know the truth. The creator of this world does not seek or need a worship. Mere gods does.

I am that i am is same as i am who i choose to be. Means he can be anything he want to.


Also people need to open their eye that the creator does not seek worship neither is he near to humans.

i nor sure say na the marraige cause am. Na the timing. Also aging matter.

chie na only u get that thing?

icebebe: shift jor... Master ko

master ni. If u doubt me and would want or need a taste of me. I can prove what i said up there. Trust me when i said so.

icebebe: u no read o na ukwu u run com see

watin i wan read? Me na professor for the game i dont need to read those things up there..

Abi na you get that ukwu. If yes make i follow now ooh.

a God who cannot fight for himself does not worth me serving him.

see ukwu. see ukwu.

Originakalokalo: tanx broda for d reponce...frm what u said, i shuld first nail a plywood on d wall and then screw -in the hanger on the plywood?

yes use long nail to nail the wood.

Fresh and fine strong wood. Get it done from furniture. then screw the tv hanger to it and hang the tv .

and here someone said the military are winning the war... Last i forget source?

first congratulation. Second if the wall is not strong get a long nail, u are going to nail a small fine plywood on the wall to hang the tv to.

its not a wrong thing. Its called "link back" to source. Google about it. Its legal and allowed in the blogging international law. Incase you don't know 30% of members here are bloggers and they also contribute here.

if you love her, let them be together. For what I see here she don't love you. She has been friendzoning you all this while. Maybe you friend has a bigger thing. Sorry bro it hurt but take hearth.

you mean that guy slim with those women? Well he was learning compare to solomon. But they were lucky its not in this era of HIV that is more rampant in 5 of every 25 women.

lately its very difficult for one family to run one business.

those guys got issues. That's just some publicity stunt. Why can't them keep things to themselves. every body knows psquire abI psquirrel is just peter and paul is this suppose to be public news?

hello, anyone in benin republic.

following..

but make i hear say you reach safely.