1John 4:1-6 says; "Test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. FOR MANY FALSE PROPHETS HAVE GONE OUT EVERYWHERE. This is how you will be able to know whether it is God's spirit: ANYONE WHO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT JESUS CHRIST CAME AS A HUMAN BEING HAS THE SPIRIT WHO COMES FROM GOD. BUT ANYONE WHO DENIES THIS ABOUT JESUS DOES NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT FROM GOD. The spirit that he has is from the enemy of christ; you heard that it would come, and now it is here in the world already."

The last thing i would do is to argue with a muslim. It's not worth my time except duty calls. Muslims are so adamant and blind and blocked minded. 1 John 1:18-22 says that "the enemies of Jesus Christ would appear and have already appeared.....WHO, THEN, IS THE LIAR? IT IS ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT JESUS IS NOT THE MESSIAH. SUCH A PERSON IS THE ENEMY OF CHRIST-he rejects both the Father and the Son.

If you carefully study the Pauline or Johannine christology, you would truly understand who Jesus is. In colossians 1:15-20, it says and i quote; "CHRIST IS THE VISIBLE LIKENESS OF THE INVISIBLE GOD.....,FOR THROUGH HIM GOD CREATED EVERYTHING IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH, the seen and unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. GOD CREATED THE WHOLE UNIVERSE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM.......FOR IT WAS BY GOD'S OWN DECISION THAT THE SON HAS IN HIMSELF THE FULL NATURE OF GOD".

JESUS SAID THESE WORDS HIMSELF in John 5:22-23 and i quote; "Nor does the Father himself judge anyone. He has given his Son the full right to judge, so that ALL WILL HONOUR THE SON IN THE SAME WAY AS THEY HONOUR THE FATHER. Whoever does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him."

Philippians 2:10-11; And so, in honour of the name of Jesus, all beings in heaven, on earth, and in the world below will fall on their knees, and all will openly proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

The Father was not crucified, but rather the Son was. So there's still the mighty Supreme Father in heaven. If you study soteriology and christology, you would understand that the fact that Jesus was crucified doesn't lessen His glory. And that's what st. Paul explained in Philippians 2:6-11 and i quote; "Jesus always had the nature of God, but he did not think that by force he should try to become or remain equal with God(the Father). Instead of this, of HIS OWN FREE WILL HE GAVE UP ALL HE HAD, AND TOOK THE NATURE OF A SERVANT. He became like man and appeared in human likeness. He was humble and walked the path of obedience all the way to death--his death on the cross...,"

I said: The name God is LIKE a surname. Yes, Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary defines surname as THE NAME BORNE IN COMMON BY MEMBERS OF A FAMILY.

If according to John 1:1-18 and Isaiah 9:6-7 and John 20:27-29, the Son(Jesus) is God, and also the Father(Jehovah, Yahweh) is God and both are God and God is a title(name) common to both of them.

You must be silly if you're waiting for me to show you a book of Christ. These disciples where taught everything by Jesus, they were filled with the Holy Spirit, and I believe in what they have written. Are you trying to dispute Isaiah? Because Isaiah prophecied in Isaiah 9:6-7 that Jesus is God. Are you disputing St. John the disciple who wrote in John 1:1-18 that Jesus is God? You're being sentimental and even adamant, free yourself from this and read those passages. John 21:24-25 says a lot. "NOW THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT JESUS DID. IF THEY WERE ALL WRITTEN DOWN ONE BY ONE....THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD NOT HOLD THE BOOKS THAT WOULD BE WRITTEN.

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When Jesus came down to the earth, someone was in authority as usual and that is God-the-Father. I've tried explaining that God is like the surname and they have their own individual names. Jesus is the Son of the Father, 'The Son is not the Father'. The Father and the Son are God(very united). Think about it.

Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. No wonder, when Phillip said "Show us the Father", Jesus said "I have been with you all these while, don't you know that to have seen me is to have seen the Father?."

John also wrote in John 1:18 that NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD" but ONLY THE SON, WHO IS THE SAME AS GOD, AND IS AT THE FATHER'S SIDE, HE HAS MADE HIM KNOWN.

John 1:1-3 tells us that "in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was the same as God or the Word was God". This Word is Jesus, because John 1:14 tells us the Word became a human being(was made flesh)....and recieved glory as THE FATHER'S ONLY SON.

John 1:18 tells us that this ONLY SON IS THE SAME AS GOD AND IS AT THE FATHER'S SIDE.
This makes me believe that the name of the Son is Jesus Christ (or Immanuel) and the name of the Father is Yahweh or Jehovah e.t.c. The Son is God and the Father is God, but the Son is not the Father. Both are God. And they are United-as-the-source-of-eternal-life as can be seen in John 5:26.

Also read John 20:24-29 The disciples normally referred to Jesus as teacher, master, rabbi, but upon resurrection, they said in John20:25 "We have seen the Lord!". Thomas the disciple put his fingers in the hands of Jesus and instantly exclaimed to Jesus in John20:28 "MY LORD AND MY GOD!".

And Jesus replied "Do you believe because you see me? How happy are those who believe without seeing me!"

Ubenedictus: john 1:1-14

Thank you. That's so true. Even read Isaiah 9:6-7. It says ; A CHILD is born to us!.. .. ..He will be called "Wonderful Counsellor", "MIGHTY GOD", "ETERNAL FATHER" Prince of peace.....
The Lord Almighty is determined to do all this.

WHITECAT, there's no point proving anything, the posts are there as evidence. Hold your tears, today is independence day. Let's call a truce and be happy. If u've noticed, i never wrote even a word on this ethnic tribalism cos i'm not tribalistic. All my posts have been focused on you 'whitecat' abt ur manners, insults and spirituality, and i'm ready to continue till you change. However, today has a significant meaning for me as a Nigerian and a Catholic, i guess it might also be d same for you . Let's have a truce.

WHITECAT, stop telling lies. We all understand that you lack manners and even go as far as insulting one's parents and lineage. These insults can't hurt a strand of our hair. However, your lies show how lost you are. You lack identity. You're a pagan worshipper. I discerned and noticed that you're a witch, you cleverly denied this but later confessed to being an agent of DARK SPIRITUALITY. Imagine the kind of curses you've been raining on everyone, but i tell you, you're powerless. I laugh in joy because i'm covered with the precious blood of Jesus.

Whitecat, you said neither christian nor muslim but you've chosen SPIRITUALITY. Please confess, which kind of spirituality? Witchcraft? Read your above post. Infact, your poor manners say a lot about you.

whitecat007: FSU, post your father's pix here so we can see if he's not frog eyed like him. I'm proud of being a muslim, and yes, muhammed is handsome that's why i follow him. May Allah punish you. Asee!!!

whitecat, are you now denying islam? Liar.

whitecat007: Funny chap! you have no idea how the spirits work.
you do not have any spirit on your side. you just wrote about your fantasy of a woman with three men in bed. Is that what the holy spirit teaches you, or in whose name are you going to make the decree? you are either hot or cold, no middle ground. omode omogun o npe lefo.

You're lost. You're an islamic witch. I pity you. I can't give pearls to the dogs. That's why i'm going to snub you henceforth except when you try your witchcraft.

whitecat007: Finally johnchike, may every problem that comes from the world of darkness find their ways to your door and may all the little things that have give you joy begin to vanish before your very eyes, Asseeeee!!!!

I laugh because i know i'm protected by the blood of Jesus

whitecat007: You son of a slutwhore have a bad and terrible night filled of horror, and may all the story of your life be full of sorrow and agony from now on may your trouble be multiplied in great proportion and may may misfortune be on every step you take, asee!!!!

You think i would you be scared? Not your type. I know you're a witch, seriously i do. Today is sunday, if not i would have made decrees on ur life. But the glory isn't mine and God doesn't act that way. Keep on insulting, i tell you, sincerely, you've made a bad name on nairaland.

whitecat007: i like three guys having hot se.x with me, i love blow.job, if your mother complains, slap your mother three times and tell her she is talking nonsense. and till i make my comment on the next page, tell your brother to rape your mother to her grave.

whitecat, mind how you insult people.

whitecat007: Your family is about to convert your father's living room to a mental home to treat and chain you and the rest of your family members who are going to strip in the market places soon.

whitecat007: A fool of ten fathers! Are you tied down in Lagos?

whitecat007: and you must die before him.

whitecat, are you a witch? Seriously, i pity your weak husband. You're bad-mouthed. I've not seen you write any significant post, all you do is to write rubbish. Let's leave tribal differences out of this, but view personalities. I love you as much as I love those who lack home training. Goodnight.

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talk2xp: @ Johnchike:[/b]If you can't see the difference then you're blind and might never see. I'm sorry for you, remove sentiments and observe how each group tackled their problem. [b]One group acted violently which always exhibit their intolerance and hatred. While The other group acted wisely in a peaceful and diplomatic way.

You call this diplomacy right? Please get an education fast cause for real you need it more than the al-majiri's. You are such a hypocrite. God save us from blasphemers like you. No apologies.

So what's your own version of diplomacy? Killing an ambassador? Burning embassies? Killing innocent christians? I'm sorry for you, you have a blocked mind.

tintingz: look for a Jesus pix and compare it with what you wrote. . .white hair or let say blonde hair and what is the meaning of "two sharp egded sword in his mouth" his he like vampire in heaven?

I've seen pictures where Jesus was shown with white hair. I've had dreams about this. It is clearly written in the book of revelations. If you're a non-christian and you doubt this, that's ur business. If you're a Christian, kindly read your bible before posting. Remember i quoted the bible chapter. Read my posts again.

tintingz: what's the diff the bishops want the image removed while muslims also want the film removed. . .soon now bishops will start protesting for the pix is not removed

If you can't see the difference then you're blind and might never see. I'm sorry for you, remove sentiments and observe how each group tackled their problem. One group acted violently which always exhibit their intolerance and hatred. While The other group acted wisely in a peaceful and diplomatic way.

tintingz: are you telling me Jesus is a white man with blonde hair in heaven two sharp egded sword in his mouth(vampire)?. . .see how white people brainwashed christians, Jesus only came to the lost sheep of isreal not america, china nor africa but only to the lost sheep of isreal . . .funniest thing is that dsame christians are the one publishing this magazine of mimick pix of Jesus

Read my post again. I quoted the bible. And more importantly, i never said Jesus is a white man. Read slowly; I said Jesus had WHITE HAIR. After all, a man having white hair DOESN'T mean he is a white man or is your grandfather a white man?

tintingz: And christians will tell us they don't react when their sacred belief is mocked or insulted. . .why the bishops sending letters why can't they fold arms and watch the mimick pix of Jesus in magazine

Be real. Everyone reacts. But what matters most is how one reacts. From the muhammed film incident, certain people reacted by burning, killing, violence and threats but our christian bishops are reacting by sending letters in a diplomatic way. This shows a high level of reasoning, intelligence and maturity. It also shows respect for human life. Jesus said; "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword." violence is vanity.

Gabriel_sylar: we
xtains are happy wit dis...if they want they kan even put ga.yz on d
crucifix(datz where they belong)...d cros is nt d pillar of our faith it is d ressurection..we
are nt idol worshippers nd we dnt bow down to graven images including a
wooden cross...our faith is in d RESURECTION POWER.JESUS is NOT A MESSENGER OF GOD HE His THE SON OF GOD THAT BROUGHT A MESSAGE FROM GOD

No one is asking you to worship the CRUCIFIX, but rather to think and look beyond the physical, at the person being represented by the crucifix. If you love a girl and you're admiring her beautiful picture, you're not in love with the paper or the print but in reality you're in love with the beautiful girl being portrayed in the picture. You're not madly in love with the print of the new 5000 naira note, but you're in love with the purchase power of the note and even the high class attached to it. The israelites didn't worship the hung bronze serpent but rather they recognized and respected the saving glory of God by looking beyond the physical bronze snake but who it glorified(God)

aurenflani: Must christians always have a hard on everytime Islam comes to their mind?

Why do you want us to look the other way while you attack us? We don't care that your religion and god are toys for your plays and fun. We careless that u run ur mouths aimlessly but don't expect us to live according to ur wish!

We do not disrespect God or His Messengers. If you want to hide under the cover of your so called free speech and degrade whoever and whatever let that be within your circle. We will not accept a tresspass, peroid.

aurenflani:

Atleast ur fake religion has nowhere for u to go on pilgrimage. Even though u worship a jew his ppl don't recognise and so monitor like a warder and his prisoner while in israel. You jeolousy is only taking u to hell.

Your previous posts have shown you to be against Christians, in other words; anti-christians. In short form; Anti-Christ. Enjoy your title.

CastleandGreen: Bishop don't be angry the bible says Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross, was buried and on the third day he resurrated and he is right now seated on the right hand of God. So bishop what counts is the resuration not the cross.

Jesus is the suffering messiah. Jesus is an almighty King. We cannot choose a part of Christ to adore. We must adore all about him. Revelations 1vs12-20 shows us how great Jesus Christ is in heaven; handsome, white hair, fine robe, gold belt, seven stars in his right hand, a sharp two-edged sword in his mouth, his face as bright as the midday sun. Yes, Jesus is Lord. However, we shouldn't forget his suffering. Revelations 5vs1-14 reminds us that only Jesus was found worthy to break the seals and open the scroll. This is how Jesus was shown in heaven; A Lamb which appeared to have been killed. A Lamb who died a sacrificial death to save people from every tribe, language, nation and race. Surely, this death is represented by the CRUCIFIX and cross. It can never be forgotten. CHRIST ON THE CRUCIFIX MUST BE VENERATED AS WELL AS THE GLORIOUS SIDE OF CHRIST(seated at the right-hand of God). Rev 5vs13 says all living beings in the universe must sing to the honour and glory of Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb.

oradee:

i dont get...why is Christ's place of birth not as symbolic as his place of death?

Jesus was venerated at his place of birth, even, a thousand angels came down from heaven to worship Him in bethlehem. As well, Jesus must also be venerated at His place of death and must even be extra-venerated because His death is a sign of victory.