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Janosky:Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool blasphemer janosky funny, yes i came out of my mother a seperate person to her Janosky: God is the Source of "the Word" made a separate being.@bold, thank you, not that you would really know regarding screen shot of me saying Jesus had a beginning, of Course Jesus the man/flesh had a beginning, in Spirit He/the Word of God has always existed in God Janosky: Isaiah 6:8 God can not be an Angel.oh duh, this is your confused gibberish reply to my saying: "God cannot be a angel" God is not a angel, really 1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. according to u so called jw, all angels obey God so that makes Jesus an angel , so dum Janosky: Did John W come from himself?which voice are you replying to now did me say Jesus came from Himself, did i say Jesus is the Father Jesus is from His Father is a voice inside you keep saying: trinity trinity trinity, so funny and your views on trinity are so confused, like your views on many things Janosky: God created light, therefore ,God created the Word, his Son.the light that God made shine on earth was not Jesus God said let there be light, and there was light so you think God created light/Jesus after he created the Heavens and the earth, smile Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Gen 1:2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Gen 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Janosky: Only one son of God defeats the Devil@ 1 John 3:8, Revelation 12:7-9.again, this your confusion is not a reply to what i said, what i said is: "the Word is neither created from nothing or made from dust but is from God" as to what you replied: 1 john 3:8 Jesus came to destroy the devil's work rev 12:7-9 michael throws satan down to earth ^^ these are two diffrent events of two diffrent persons Joh 5:28 Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son, 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself, with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call and with the sound of God’s trumpet, will descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. ^^it's the voice of God's Son/the command of the Lord Jesus that raises the dead in Christ, the Lord Jesus raises the dead with a loud command the call/shout of the archangel and the trumpet of God herald this amazing event, heralds both the Lord's coming and His raising the saved dead the second coming of Christ and the raising of the dead is heralded by the shout of an archangel and the trumpet of God, the dead are raised by the command of the Lord Jesus, not by a angel michael and his angels defeat satan and his angels in battle Lord Jesus defeated satan for all time by His spilt blood michael asks the lord to rebuke satan the lord Jesus rebukes satan himself Janosky: the screenshot of1 Thess4:16 reads:, the archangel NOT "an archangel".you post bible versions that say "the archangel" knowing that there are translations that say "an archangel" daniel shows which is correct: Dan_10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. as usual blasphemer, what you have is your confused twisting |
Mikee19:thanks Mikee19, i don't read or post a lot here, you are better off asking immaculatesense |
MaxInDHouse:so called jw that's what comes from trying to make scripture fit doctrine, instead of reading God's word for what it truly say's "in the beginning was the Word" the word was is used because the verse is talking of the past: "in the beginning" perhaps you think it should be: "in the beginning will be the Word" "and the word was with God" < in the beginning you must think the Word is no longer with God |
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Or again, “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”? hebrews 1:5 is a question For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? and the answer is never, it is not in the bible where God said that to a angel “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”, however God did say that to Jesus/the Word of God Heb 5:5 So also Christ did not exalt himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by him who said to him, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”; the bible gives many other names for Jesus, and michael is not one of them |
MaxInDHouse: immaculatesense:God's Word has always existed in God God bought His Word out of Himself to be a seperate Person God's Word/Son cannot be an angelic being unless God Himself is a angel God/Creator angels/created God is not a created angel so his Son from Himself cannot be a angel angels and humans are called son's of God but angels are created from nothing except the Word of God adam was made from the dust of the earth the Word is neither created from nothing or made from dust but is from God so called jw's keep saying Jesus is michael but don't try to give proof, or their secret knowledge when challenged by someone who is able to express well biblical knowledge, such as immaculatesense and others |
very good |
cor 13 does give some characteristics or features of love for example: enduring in the faith with patience and serenity is Love being kind is love being thoughtful is Love gladness of the truth is Love cor 13 also gives some examples of what is not love: love is not selfish Love is not easily provoked love is not puffed up Love doesn't envy Love doesn't have evil thoughts |
immaculatesense:thanks for that, i don't think you understood what i said about choosing the right word according to context, although i probably didn't say it well yes, way back in eternity before creation when only God existed, He bought wisdom/the word out of Himself. wisdom wasn't created, because before being bought out of God, wisdom always existed in God God is a Spirit, the Word is that same Spirit that is God, God bought wisdom out of Himself, wisdom/the word didn't come from nothing but is of God's own Spirit just like i am of my human father's flesh, that's why God and the word is God, they are that same Spirit that is God. Father and Son ^ wisdom in pro 8:22 + is also personified as the Word/Jesus Pro 8:24 When there were no depths I was brought forth (chul chiyl), when there were no springs abounding with water. in context with this verse, bought forth (chul chiyl) is used as similar to birth H2342 חִיל חוּל chûl chı̂yl khool, kheel A primitive root; properly to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded. Total KJV occurrences: 58 according to context "chul chiyl" can also be used in matters of endurance, anguish, pain, etc. |
Maynman:so you cannot admit that you were wrong Maynman: |
Maynman:that's besides the point you said "God is a title not a person" as far as Yahovah is concerned God is both a title and a person |
false jw's claiming to be God's people while lying like hell, they so dum Joh 8:44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
immaculatesense:i have remembered that i purchased the NLT many moons ago for my e-sword but lost it when i installed e-sword onto a new operating system, and forgot about adding the NLT back into it, i have now added NLT to e-sword again many words can have diffrent meanings, so context is important in translating the meaning of words from diffrent languages some bible versions have "firstborn" in col 1:15 which doesn't make sense for example "Christ is the firstborn of all creation for by him all things were created" ^^ all things were created by Christ because Christ is the firstborn of creation < like i said it doesn't make sense NLT has "supreme" not "firstborn" prototokos is from protos which means foremost and chief, so supreme fits the NLT version does make sense "Christ is supreme over all creation, for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth" NLT Col 1:15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, Col 1:16 for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see—such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him. |
Maynman:God is both a title and a person Yahovah is God God is Yahovah King of kings and Lord of lords is a title and a person King of kings and Lord of lords is the Word/Jesus Christ the Word/Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords God (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool cannot ever stop lying, lost fraud jw janosky you call truth: fraud and babble, of course you do you janosky referring to the christians Holy Spirit of the bible, call Him: "the ole demon ghost" you janosky referring to the christians Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the bible, call them: "the 3 dogheads" Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. you can never stop adding lies to your posts, can you false jw when you habitually talk lies, you are showing your character of the devil: Joh 8:44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost blasphemer false jw mad max you can make excuses til doom's day, they won't save you when christians talk about the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit they are of course talking about the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the bible and fraud jw janosky was having a ball calling Father Son and Holy Spirit things like: "the ole demon ghost" and "the three dog heads" etc.etc. and you and other false jw's copied him in blaspheming, even giving likes to janosky's blasphemy's fool yourself oh lost one with your long epistle you certainly don't fool me Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. 1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Maynman:and where did i say different you say either and i say eiver you say neither and i say neiver eiver either neither niver, lets call the whole thing off |
immaculatesense:i said translation, he is confused |
Maynman:so long as you know NLT stands for new living translation and not new living version |
Maynman:NLT stands for new living translation |
immaculatesense:yes i have two good bible apps with all of that in them, the one i'm using at the moment hasn't got NLT, but from memory the other has, i will have a look thanks |
immaculatesense:hi, i would be interested in knowing which bible you prefer what do you think is the best translation a tough question, i know |
i would have no problem at all calling Jesus in Spirit: the Word of God hello Word of God but the Word/Jesus of course will have a new name that i will call Him Rev_3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. |
MaxInDHouse:says lost mad max, so funny MaxInDHouse: If you don't agree with anyone's beliefs does it makes them mad?your not mad because your beliefs aren't agreed with you are mad because you say you can defeat 6 armed combatants single handed and you can make someone eat and drink through his anus you tell everyone how your wife loves to play with your dic etc. etc. saying you are mad is very lenient, you are as crazy as hell MaxInDHouse: Revelations is not to be taken literally that's why in your churches you don't pray in the name of "The word of God"job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at lost false jw mad max of course you don't believe God's word that Jesus pre flesh name is "the Word of God" even though He is called "the Word" even in the beginning of creation Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. you do however believe the devil and his lies: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Jesus is called many names, but not michael, of course |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max when christians talk about the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit they are talking about the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the bible who fraud jw janosky calls "the 3 dogheads" etc. he also calls the Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost" etc and you lost false jw mad max and other false jw's were happy to join him in his blaspheming Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
MaxInDHouse:oh duh sayer of anything, false jw mad max Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. |
Janosky:oh duh fraud jw janosky your comparison sure is so dum God's word tells of God changing jacob's name to israel, and God's word tells of saul also being called paul, and God's word tells of tabitha also being called dorcas God's word tells of Jesus also being called the Word and the Messiah, and God's word doesn't tell that Jesus name was michael, but God's word does tell that "Jesus" name was "The Word" Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. ^^ "The Word" became flesh/man, and that man is called "Jesus" |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max God's word doesn't say that Jesus name when Spirit is "michael" God's word does say that Jesus name when Spirit is "The Word of God" Rev 19:13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. Jesus name was "The Word" right back at the beginning of creation Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. |
MaxInDHouse:job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at fearfully paranoid false jw mad max you false jw's just love your paranoia and lies. it's just a couple of the things that define you as belonging to satan's mob: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. false jw's bad fruits: false prophecies, pretending like lambs on the street, and showing their true wolf colors when anonomously online, constantly lying, paranoia, blaspheming, denying the Lord, etc.etc. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits |
MaxInDHouse:job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at false jw mad max according to your thinking, false jw people having the same line of thought, like you and janosky and all other false jw's must be the same person u people so dum, aren't youand paranoid, and, and, and, and, ..................................... > |
MaxInDHouse:job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at false jw mad max you becoming even crazier, amazing a poem: you not only paranoid as hell, you are so dum as well rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. |
Janosky:lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit, fraud jw janosky do show where i misquoted the holy bible, won't you oh so duh one you come back with that now, you hear ![]() 1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints you call the Holy spirit: "the ole demon ghost" and "doghead" don't you oh so evil one: Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. calling the Holy spirit "the ole demon ghost" etc. certainly is confusion and lies, it is great confusion and lies you losties are so dum, aren't you jan |
Janosky: oh great denier of the Lord Jesus ChristNWT Matthew 28:19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit ^^ even your false jw own book tells of Jesus saying to baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit but still you confused know nothing jehovah wailer fraud janosky, continue to try and prove that the Lord a liar: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father so dum fraud jw, you don't have to keep trying to be lost believe what i have been telling you for long time "YOU ARE LOST" with your balspheming the Holy Spirit, denying the Lord etc. etc. |
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