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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 9:16am On Sep 26, 2021
DappaD:
Meanwhile this unholy ghost that they claim to be a person has only been multiplying the confusion amongst those who worship him. Another funny thing is that since they claim it’s a person whom they chat and gist with, they cannot still figure out his name up until now.
Mar_3:29  But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:


you mean: you still cannot figure out His name


false jw dappa d dope

what is wrong with "Holy Spirit" for a name


if you think "Holy Spirit" is not a name, then is "Word of God" a name?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47:
Janosky:
Excellent !

Don't mind that John W fraud who has not proven the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" he added to Numbers 11;17 grin grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


fraud jw janosky

you say confusion and false translations are excellent, of course you do


i of course didn't add anything to numbers 11:17
but of course you like your daddy the devil cannot stop lying:

john 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

here is num 11:17 again oh heap big lie lie
with again nothing added to it:

Num 11:17  And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.

i explained that the Holy Spirit isn't chopped up and divided among the 70 , but that it is gifts of the Spirit
that God took from moses and gave to the 70

of course you a dum dum cannot understand, can you dum dum
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47:
DappaD:
Daniel 7:27

Good News Translation

“The power and greatness of all the kingdoms on earth will be given to the people of the Supreme God. Their royal power will never end, and all rulers on earth will serve and obey them.”


God’s Word Translation

“The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them.”


JPS Tanakh

“And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”


What makes you think the above translations are faulty and the King James is trustworthy? For your information, in that verse there is no third person pronoun “him” in Hebrew.
The above translations used “them” because the context is not referring to a person, but a group of people.

Heck it’s even in harmony with the rest of the Bible. Jesus promised his disciples that God would give them a Kingdom and they would rule as kings and judges alongside him. Matthew 19:28, Luke 12:32, 22:28-30, Revelation 3:21, 20:4,6 see also 2Timothy 2:12


The question remains, are we to worship these people who also receive a Kingdom like the son of man did in verse 14?



oh duh dappa d dope

you found a few translations that agree with your false belief

the majority of translations agree with truth


here are some:

KJV Dan 7:27  And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

NASB Dan 7:27  'Then the sovereignty, the dominion and the greatness of all the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the people of the saints of the Highest One; His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all the dominions will serve and obey Him.'

ESV Dan 7:27  And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; his kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.’

NIV Dan 7:27  Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'

ASV Dan 7:27  And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High: his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

LSV Dan 7:27  and the kingdom, and the dominion, even the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heavens, is given to the people—the saints of the Most High, His kingdom [is] a continuous kingdom, and all dominions serve and obey Him. 

NET Dan 7:27  Then the kingdom, authority, and greatness of the kingdoms under all of heaven will be delivered to the people of the holy ones of the Most High. His kingdom is an eternal kingdom; all authorities will serve him and obey him.’ 

NLT Dan 7:27  Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.”

CEV Dan 7:27  "Then the greatest kingdom of all will be given to the chosen ones of God Most High. His kingdom will be eternal, and all others will serve and obey him."

DARBY Dan 7:27  But the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heavens, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most high places . His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

ISV Dan 7:27 Dan 7:27  Then the kingdom, authority, and magnificence of all nations of the earth will be given to the people who are the saints of the Highest One. His kingdom will endure forever, and all authorities will serve him and obey him.' 

WEB Dan 7:27  The kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole sky, will be given to the people of the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions will serve and obey him.’

BRENTON Dan 7:27  And the kingdom and the power and the greatness of the kings that are under the whole heaven were given to the saints of the Most High; and his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all powers shall serve and obey him. 

NIrV Dan 7:27  Then the authority, power and greatness of all of the kingdoms on earth will be handed over to the people of the Most High God. His kingdom will last forever. Every ruler will worship and obey him.'

BBE Dan 7:27  And the kingdom and the authority and the power of the kingdoms under all the heaven will be given to the people of the saints of the Most High: his kingdom is an eternal kingdom, and all powers will be his servants and do his pleasure.


that's just from my bibles, there are many more, oh dum dum false jw


d dope, you say "Him" is not in hebrew:

oh duh, forget about the "Him" if you wan't to, the verse is talking of the most High/the Highest one
that is to be served/worshiped and obeyed


d dope, you say it's in harmony with the rest of the bible:

oh duh duh, do you think serving/worshiping and obeying the most High is not, so dum


d dope, you say are we to worship these people who also receive a Kingdom:

you worship them, i will continue to worship God
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 6:41am On Sep 25, 2021
fraud jw janosky

all you can do is repeat your same lies over and over again
and laugh over and over again like the insane fool - typical false jw though:

john 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47:
Janosky:
John 20:17, did Jesus worship Trinity?

John W fraud, Polytheist & 3 doghead worshipper grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


fraud jw janosky

see how you satan's mob love repeating your blasphemies over and over again

my posts are not about trinity but about you continually blaspheming the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
to wit you will have your reward:

rev 20:15 And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


you cannot stop blaspheming and lying, oh false accuser just like your daddy:

2 timothy 3:2 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers

john 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 2:11am On Sep 25, 2021
fraud jw janosky

where are you

come on, you have a lot more lies, false accusing, confusion, laughter of the fool,
and know nothingness than that

john 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

1cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

^^ also the dead in understanding know nothing VV

pro 21:16 The man that wanders out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 1:47am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
Daniel 7:27 complete Jewish bible, NWT
"Obey them"

SERVE, Minister is NOT worship.
Matthew 20:28.
John W fraud grin grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

truly know nothing fraud jw janosky

verse 27, it's the most high that is to be served/worshipped

plach verse 27
6399 plach pel-akh' (Aramaic) corresponding to 6398; to serve or worship:--minister, serve. see HEBREW for 06398


1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47:
Janosky:
John 20:17, did Jesus worship Trinity?

John W fraud, Polytheist & 3 doghead worshipper grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

fraud jw janosky

u love to repeatedly blaspheme the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit
calling Them: "3 dogheads"

truly you will have your reward:

rev 20:15 And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47:
Janosky:
Numbers 11:17

17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

John W fraud no get conscience LYING like kilode grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

so dum dum fraud jw janosky
i have clearly answered u multiple times yet you still don't understand, of course
"of the Spirit" is "of the Holy Spirit" oh duh duh
and truly verse 17 is not talking about chopping up the Holy Spirit and giving peices to the 70, it's about taking of the Spirit (taking some of the gifts of the Spirit given to moses) and giving to the 70 so they could be of help to moses

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

u poor duh false accuser, laughing all over the place at your own
confusion and know nothingness
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 1:08am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
Daniel 7:27 complete Jewish bible, NWT
"Obey them"

SERVE, Minister is NOT worship.
Matthew 20:28.
John W fraud grin grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



truly know nothing fraud janosky

verse 27 it's the most High that is to be served/worshipped

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 1:05am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself grin

John W fraud who understands God's word by adding his own "gifts" grin grin,

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

cheesy grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
oh duh most dum false jw janosky

truly know nothing fraud jw janosky, verse 17 is not about chopping up the Holy Spirit and giving bits of Him to 70 others
it's about taking some of the gifts of the Spirit from moses and giving them to the 70

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 12:57am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
Achorladey Continue WAILING upandan, bearing FALSE witness about Jesus with your 3 dogheads.

John 20:17, did Jesus worship Trinity?
grin grin grin grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

fraud jw janosky

u love to continually call the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit:
"the three dogheads"

truly you will have your reward:

rev 20:15 And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 12:37am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
Numbers 11:17
17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"

JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself.
@ Genesis 1:2 their FALSEHOOD says holy spirit is a person ,
Their Bibles say "hovering", them change am "to & fro" that is not the Hebrew lexicon meaning of "hovering" grin grin

@ holy spirit they claim is a person @ Genesis 1:2, JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself refused to accept Numbers 11:17 holy spirit as person.
John W fraud, why do you shift this goalpost?

grin grin grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


oh duh duh duh fraud jw janosky

talk about no understanding and confusion, you don't understand God's word at all.
truly verse 17 is not about chopping up the Holy Spirit and giving bits of Him to 70 others
it's about taking some of the gifts of the Spirit from moses and giving them to the 70

of course u confused fraud jw could never understand:

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 12:29am On Sep 25, 2021
DappaD:
Nawa! OP quoted Daniel 7:13,14 hoping to make it stick to the belief that one should worship Jesus.
Somehow somehow, “serve” suddenly changed to “worship” in his dictionary.

Since Daniel chapter 7 is being considered, why is the OP omitting the verse 27 of that chapter which says:

“The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them.”—God’s Word Translation(1995)

Does OP agree that we should worship these people mentioned in the verse 27 or shall we stick to the original meaning of the word “serve” ?
Will these people automatically become equal to God since they also receive a kingdom just like the son of man did in verse 14?
false jw dappa d dope

you have searched for a faulty translation to suit your false belief.
the one to be served/worshipped in verse 27 is the most High:

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Strongs: 06399
6399 plach pel-akh' (Aramaic) corresponding to 6398; to serve or worship:--minister, serve. see HEBREW for 06398
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 12:03am On Sep 25, 2021
Janosky:
grin grin

Numbers 11:17
17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"


How many spirits was shared to Moses & 70 valiant leaders of Israel ?

Trinitarians too dey DECEIVE themselves grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


oh duh most dum false jw janosky

num 11:17 is talking of the gifts of God/the gifts of the Holy Spirit
moses was given more than enough grace for some to be taken from him and be given
to 70 men to help

talk about being deceived, u deceive yourself all the time, oh heap big fraud
Christianity EtcRe: Is God Good? by johnw47: 9:52am On Sep 24, 2021
Is God Good?


He certainly is:

matt 19:17 And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

^^^ and when Jesus showed, only God is good, He then said shortly after, I am good vvv

matt 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with my own? Is your eye evil, because I am good?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:44pm On Sep 22, 2021
Janosky:
Continue with your GIBBERISH grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

you have no honest reply to truth, have you mumu janosky



fraud jw janosky

you false jw's agree with each other in your lies, of course:

john 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


johnw47:
sagenaija, false jw mad max like all them false jw's is hypocrite and full of bull

if you had posted a jw video he wouldn't be knocking you
would probably be praising you


because someone opposes false jw on something, he is:
"useless, worthless, hopeless"

^^ such is false jw accusers, just like their daddy:

rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47: 2:19am On Sep 22, 2021
DappaD:
this unholy ghost that they claim to be a person
false jw dappa d dope

matt 12:31 Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven to men.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
Janosky:
GIBBERISH
grin
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

oh poor fraud jw janosky
i said some truths about your fellow girlie false jw's


you queer false jw's back each other up in opposing the truth.
your fellow false jw's are clearly your god's, among other:

1 cor 6:9 Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:40am On Sep 22, 2021
sagenaija, false jw mad max like all them false jw's is hypocrite and full of bull

if you had posted a jw video he wouldn't be knocking you
would probably be praising you


because someone opposes false jw on something, he is:
"useless, worthless, hopeless"

^^ such is false jw accusers, just like their daddy:

rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by johnw47:
Janosky:
3 doghead worshippers

grin grin
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool;


fraud jw janosky
u satan's mob love calling the Father and the Word and the Holy Spirit: "the three dogheads"


u also love calling the Holy Ghost: "the ole demon ghost"


truly u will have your reward:

Mat 12:32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 

Rev_21:8  "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:26pm On Sep 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Alright, so since you know both of us are not on the same page please take your leave! smiley
oh duh false jw mad max

i did @bolded, ~~~~~ did i also say: such a dum dum, oh good

johnw47:
sure false jw mad max

i will leave you to the false jw's heritage
of your false grand father jehovah
smiley such a dum dum


my own Father is the Everlasting Father YHWH
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:41am On Sep 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry Sir, i'm talking about the Heritage of Jehovah's Witnesses not yours. So you speak of your own Father and leave our own Heritage for us! smiley
sure false jw mad max

i will leave you to the false jw's heritage
of your false grand father jehovah smiley such a dum dum


my own Father is the Everlasting Father YHWH


MaxInDHouse: As the Everlasting Father Jesus will become the father to all mankind as our first human father has lost his life after rebelling against our Grand Father (Jehovah)
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 2:00am On Sep 14, 2021
Barristter07:
Jesus wasn't represented as a person. He wasn't part of the NO ONE in heaven. no one refer to persons , not animals figures like A Lamb.

Even in Matthew No one does not include animals. Does it ?
lie lie barrister

oh duh duh duh, you false jw's sure do twist and constantly talk nonsense nonsense nonsense

lion, lamb etc. is speaking figuratively of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
and not of a literal lion and lamb

it was not a literal lion that overcome to open the book and it's seals
it was the lord Jesus Christ

before the throne wasn't a literal lamb standing
it was the Lord Jesus Christ

the four living creatures and the twenty four elders didn't fall down before a literal lamb
they fell down before the Lord Jesus Christ

a literal lamb wasn't slain and purchased with it's blood, men for God
it's the Lord Jesus Christ who was slain and purchased with His blood, men for God

it wasn't a literal lamb slain that was found worthy .....
it was the Lord Jesus Christ slain that was found worthy

every created thing in heaven and earth etc. etc. etc.
did not say to the one sitting on the throne and to a literal lamb:
be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever
but
every created thing in heaven and earth etc. etc. etc.
said to the one sitting on the throne and to the Lord Jesus Christ:
be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever

Rev 5:1  I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a book written inside and on the back, sealed up with seven seals. 
Rev 5:2  And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book and to break its seals?" 
Rev 5:3  And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the book or to look into it. 
Rev 5:4  Then I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the book or to look into it; 
Rev 5:5  and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals." 
Rev 5:6  And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth. 
Rev 5:7  And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. 
Rev 5:8  When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 
Rev 5:9  And they *sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 
Rev 5:10  "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth." 
Rev 5:11  Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, 
Rev 5:12  saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing." 
Rev 5:13  And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." 
Rev 5:14  And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
And Jesus' FATHER (JEHOVAH) is the one who gave them ..... smiley
false jw mad max

YHWH is the Father of all believers He is not only the Father of Jesus,
He is not our grandfather nor will He become our grand father, that's false jw nonsense

Mat 6:9  Pray, then, in this way: Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name

MaxInDHouse: As the Everlasting Father Jesus will become the father to all mankind as our first human father has lost his life after rebelling against our Grand Father (Jehovah)
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:10am On Sep 12, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
God then and Continue speaking about your God because my God differs from yours! smiley
it's true nutella, false jw's god is diffrent from your God

the false jw's "everlasting father jehovah" is to become the false jw's "grand father jehovah"

funny
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
As the Everlasting Father Jesus will become the father to all mankind as our first human father has lost his life after rebelling against
our Grand Father (Jehovah)
So Jesus will take over the fatherly responsibility to inculcate in all his adopted children the principles of his own Father in our hearts! Deuteronomy 6:6-7
smiley
false jw mad max

so "our Everlasting Father Jehovah" will become: "our grand father jehovah" smiley

wasn't very everlasting, was it


however you false jw's believe in your future grand father jehovah
and we christians will continue to believe in our Everlasting Father (YHWH)


Jesus is one with The Father, believers will be one with The Father in Christ.
YHWH remains our Father, He will not be our grand father smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 1:27am On Sep 05, 2021
the Holy Spirit sent the three wise men to worship Jesus:

Mat_2:2  Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Mat 2:11  And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.







Jesus said false teachers worship him in vain
in other words true christians worship wouldn't be in vain:

Mat_15:9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.




Father said Jesus is to be worshipped:

Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 1:12am On Sep 05, 2021
Luk_1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

Php_3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:



^^ God/Lord Jesus Christ is my/the saviour
God/Lord Jesus Christ the Saviour, came down from heaven





Tit_1:4  To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Tit_2:10  Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

^^ again: the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour/God our Saviour
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 12:49am On Sep 05, 2021
johnw47:
false jw mad max

oh duh, of course i will continue to worship the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

and you will continue to worship your g b and fellow false jw's, praising them constantly
false jw mad max not only worships his fellow false jw's, praising them often

but he even has idols of them, pictures that he regularly posts smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 1:47pm On Sep 04, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So worship Jesus while i and my global family worship JEHOVAH! smiley
false jw mad max

oh duh, of course i will continue to worship the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

and you will continue to worship your g b and fellow false jw's, praising them constantly
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 1:06pm On Sep 04, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
It's like you're not getting it but let me simplify it for you!

I am not worshiping Jesus, i am worshiping the God who sent Jesus, Jesus is only teaching me how to worship the same God he himself worships! John 20:17

Do you grasp it now? cheesy
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



oh duh confused false jw mad max

i certinally do get it, and i will tell you again:

johnw47: false jw mad max

of course you false jw's don't worship the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
who came down from heaven, was tortured and died a horiffic death, so that
man who He created might be saved from their sins for eternity

yes, the King of king and Lord of lords definately deserves to be worshipped.


if worship belongs to the Father, then it belongs to Jesus:

Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine:


also, Jesus didn't say: his God and my God
Jesus said to mary: my God, and your God

but you false jw's twist much, especially the bible:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

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