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TATIME:
The quote as usual.

yes, there are many others that talk about false jw's as well, of course
but i like that one, glad you don't

[quote author=johnw47 ]Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/quote]

TATIME:
WHO ARE THE CHRISTIANS?
The group was established by a Carpenter whose father was also a Carpenter in the the district of Judea in Israel. He didn't attend any rabbinic school, He started gathering followers
*fishermen
*farmers
*tax collector and others who NEVER studied in any of the well established rabbinical schools in Israel.
Most of them later deserted Him when they discovered He was teaching HERESY,

false jw tatime
your true satanic colors are showing yet again:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil

TATIME: So who are the TRUE Christians of our day?
Are they renown men and women in the society or they're just mild tempered,well behaved and peaceful individuals who have ACCEPTED His teachings?

deluded false jw tatime one just has to read back a little way through yours and onej's posts
to see your lies there, you are neither well behaved or accept Jesus teachings,
you false jw's cannot stop lying, you make that very clear every day:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
Now you're talking!
"Any GROUP is OK except Jehovah's Witnesses"
Just as the Pharisees,Sadducees,Scribes and other Rabbis are telling everyone that any GROUP is OK except the Christians in the first century! Act 17:5
Thanks for helping honest heated persons to know that Jehovah's Witnesses are the true Christians!
God bless you Sir!

duh false jw tatime
you keep fooling yourself, and not hard to do i bet, laugh
any group is better than false jw group who pretend to be christian
but who lie like hell:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
"Written by a fake ,johnw lying Christian"
U dey thief another person fake write up & u no wan give am credit.
Your fraud done open your y**sh make everyone dey see am.

false jw jano

only a fool would think i claim the articles i post for myself
but if the hat fits

Who are the Jehovah's Witnesses and what are their beliefs?
written by a christian

The sect known today as the Jehovah’s Witnesses started out in Pennsylvania in 1870 as a Bible class led by Charles Taze Russell. Russell named his group the “Millennial Dawn Bible Study,” and those who followed him were called “Bible students.” Charles T. Russell began writing a series of books he called “The Millennial Dawn,” which stretched to six volumes before his death and contained much of the theology Jehovah’s Witnesses now hold. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was founded in 1886 and quickly became the vehicle through which the “Millennial Dawn” movement began distributing their views. Group members were sometimes disparagingly called “Russellites.” After Russell’s death in 1916, Judge J. F. Rutherford, Russell’s friend and successor, wrote the seventh and final volume of the “Millennial Dawn” series, “The Finished Mystery,” in 1917. That was also the year that the organization split. Those who followed Rutherford began calling themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

What do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe? Close scrutiny of their doctrinal position on such subjects as the deity of Christ, salvation, the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, and the atonement shows beyond a doubt that they do not hold to orthodox Christian positions on these subjects. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus is Michael the archangel, the highest created being. This contradicts many Scriptures which clearly declare Jesus to be God (John 1:1,14, 8:58, 10:30). Jehovah’s Witnesses believe salvation is obtained by a combination of faith, good works, and obedience. This contradicts countless scriptures which declare salvation to be received by grace through faith (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5). Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the Trinity, believing Jesus to be a created being and the Holy Spirit to essentially be the inanimate power of God. Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the concept of Christ’s substitutionary atonement and instead hold to a ransom theory, that Jesus’ death was a ransom payment for Adam’s sin.

How do the Jehovah’s Witnesses justify these unbiblical doctrines? First, they claim that the church has corrupted the Bible over the centuries; thus, they have re-translated the Bible into what they call the New World Translation. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society altered the text of the Bible to make it fit their false doctrine, rather than basing their doctrine on what the Bible actually teaches. The New World Translation has gone through numerous editions, as the Jehovah’s Witnesses discover more and more Scriptures that contradict their doctrines.

The Watchtower bases its beliefs and doctrines on the original and expanded teachings of Charles Taze Russell, Judge Joseph Franklin Rutherford, and their successors. The governing body of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is the only body in the cult that claims authority to interpret Scripture. In other words, what the governing body says concerning any scriptural passage is viewed as the last word, and independent thinking is strongly discouraged. This is in direct opposition to Paul's admonition to Timothy (and to us as well) to study to be approved by God, so that we need not be ashamed as we correctly handle the Word of God. This admonition, found in 2 Timothy 2:15, is a clear instruction from God to each of His children to be like the Berean Christians, who searched the Scriptures daily to see if the things they were being taught lined up with the Word.

There is probably no religious group that is more faithful than the Jehovah’s Witnesses at getting their message out. Unfortunately, the message is full of distortions, deceptions, and false doctrine. May God open the eyes of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to the truth of the gospel and the true teaching of God’s Word.

Janosky:
"Written by a fake ,johnw lying Christian"
U dey thief another person fake write up & u no wan give am credit.
Your fraud done open your y**sh make everyone dey see am.

so you cannot stop lying and false accusing, i know that already
you are false jw

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Johnw lies & fraud.
Him dey deny him Daddy !!
Oturugbeke !!!!!!
Lol

yep insanity reigns in false jw's

Janosky:
johnw lie nus!
God the Father is God
God the son is God.
God the holy ghost.
How many Gods?
That's johnw 3 Gods of fake Christianity & your triune disguised paganism

false jw jano
see how you cannot stop lying, the trinity is three persons in one God

however false jw's are polytheists believing in almighty god the father and mighty god the son

i know it must be impossible for satans mob not to lie, and it shows, smile

Janosky:
johnw lie nus!
God the Father is God
God the son is God.
God the holy ghost.
How many Gods?
That's johnw 3 Gods of fake Christianity & your triune disguised paganism

poor tormented false jw jano
now it's very well known that false jw's are the liars, i even keep showing that myself
you cannot even reply to what i said but instead garble some rubbish about god god the son etc. ha ha

now just because i rightly expose false jw's as liars, you don't have to copy cat and cll me a liar further adding to your lies, but i know you are just speaking naturally like your daddy, smile


Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

see that when devil and you speak lies you are just speaking naturally

see the mulpiple faces of false jw's
wolves cannot remain lambs for long

TATIME:
Thanks to Seun for this opportunity of FACELESSLY hitting that your malfunctioning brains with the TRUTH on NL without SEEING me,otherwise you'll have short,stab or use machete to destroy or redesign my body for tormenting your lying soul! Matthew 10:28

TATIME:
Sorry Sir, we're just doing what we know since you failed to DIRECT, POINT, SHOW, PRESENT or NAME a better GROUP than JWs. God bless you Sir!

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves

Jesus was talking of false jw's and others there,
of course false jw's are renown for their false prophecies

TATIME:
Sorry Sir, we're just doing what we know since you failed to DIRECT, POINT, SHOW, PRESENT or NAME a better GROUP than JWs. God bless you Sir!

truly any group is a better group than false jw's
who preach there are two gods and that Jesus body was not raised
yes any group is better than a group preaching lies

TATIME:
Thanks to Seun for this opportunity of FACELESSLY hitting that your malfunctioning brains with the TRUTH on NL without SEEING me,otherwise you'll have short,stab or use machete to destroy or redesign my body for tormenting your lying soul! Matthew 10:28

ha ha insanity reigns in false jw's

Janosky:
" . .Written by a Christian " is Hogwash ! That "Christian" no get name or website ?

Johnw47 is a fraud.
NL is a public forum and as result, whatever quote that U post on this forum ,the original source must be accessible & verifiable to everyone here .

Your so-called "Christian" source confirmed that Johnw47 is a fraud.
"The RSV translates it as "Your divine throne endures forever .." which he wrote is the "best translation" in the opinion of "most Bible theologians!'

NWT : "God is your throne forever and ever"

Is the RSV translation synonymous with NWT ?
Yes of course !
Johnw47 is a confirmed fraud.
Trinity doctrine & johnw47 na 5&6

ha ha false accuser jano
that false jw hysteria is catching

Janosky:
johnw47 lie nus !
The term "Daddy GO" is popular & common to Nigeria's 'pentecostal' churches & their adherents,true or false ?

know nothing jano, you are as confused as like a drunkard tatime
but then you are false jw's

i neither know or care about daddy go and pentecostal churches
you satans mob are paranoid, of course, that's from your daddy too

tat is still running

TATIME:
: So you have nothing to say about religious groups having Daddy and Mummy GOs but you can argue in support of someone criticising JWs for having a GOVERNING BODY. You're persistent in labelling JWs as FALSE,others you're confused regarding what to call them.
Well they're having Daddy and Mummy GOs,so if it's ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses that's your problem,any sane person will know that you've accepted the Daddy and Mummy GO arrangement;
I'll surely run away if i notice you're Mr johnw47 because it's obvious you're really bitter with the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) just like your ancestors Pharisees and Sadducees,you have realized that all your former Pastors and Pastresses have been fooling you all this while and now you're not happy seeing JWs SOLIDLY behind our own leaders, i know you can shoot a gun at the sight of JWs! So i'll surely run away from PSYCHOLOGICALLY wounded sadists like you oooooo

false jw tatime
much insanity mixed with much uncontrolled laughter there, bordering on hysteria,
that's what habitual lying does to you

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.


not to mention of course the false accusing - lies which are in most of your posts
and which are the mark of false jw's

TATIME:
So what have you got to say about all the religious groups around calling their leaders Daddy and Mummy GO? Are they Christians or false like JWs?

false jw tatime
i have had nothing to say about such groups, that's just your confusion from your god satan
i have some to say about all of your lies though

now show where i have accepted the Daddy and Mummy GO tradition, like you say i have
and stop running away like a sniveling coward

TATIME:
Have i lied again that governing body is not in the Bible? Or you're angry that the common Daddy and Mummy GO tradition that you've GLADLY accepted is not in the Bible as well?

false jw tatime
show me the common Daddy and Mummy GO tradition that iv'e accepted and is not in the Bible
and i will show you where you have lied even yet again

TATIME:
You can clearly see and distinguish a routine tree but you can't POINT to the SINGLE good tree,and you're claiming there is God who planted Jesus the ORIGINAL tree.John 15:1
Walahi Talahi my friend,you're seeing clearly SPIRITUALLY speaking!

you are not, you are sounding like a drunkard

like i said false jw tatime your confusion comes from your daddy devil:

joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil

TATIME:
Please Jehovah's Witnesses FABRICATED that word GOVERNING BODY just as other religious groups also FABRICATED the title Daddy and Mummy GO. So your criticism against JWs for calling a group GB is senseless,meaningless and pointless Sir!

false jw tatime
see where all your lying has gotten you,
you have been reduced to a babbling fool

TATIME:
The TRUTH is indisputable!
The Apostles has NOTHING to do with the teachings of the Pharisees, so there is NO record of any of their teachings in the Bible. On the other hand the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Rabbis were going up and down trying to refute the teachings of the Christians. Act 13:50,17:5,24:5
So my brother LET THEM SAY. If they are claiming they can IDENTIFY falsehood but can't POINT, NAME or PRESENT a GROUP that's PRACTICING PURE WORSHIP, what difference is between them and the Pharisees of Jesus' day? John 8:48 compared to Matthew 12:24-27
In the same manner their ancestors who were God's enemies did to the holy ones in ancient times! 2Chronicles 36:16 compared to Matthew 10:25 & Act 7:51-53
Their ancestors gathered from different religious groups having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines only to condemn Jesus and His followers! So my brother, let's sing joyfully to Jehovah. Act 5:17-42

false jw tatime
your confusion of course comes from your daddy devil:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil

johnw47:
confused false jw jano,
i believe Efrankbblog is the OP of this thread, duh

Janosky:
Only a fraudulent person copies another man's work with out acknowledgement of the source.
This OP ,johnw47 is a fraud .

confused false jw jano,
i believe Efrankbblog is the OP of this thread, duh

The Watchtower and 1975
written by a christian

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (the governing body of the Jehovah's Witnesses) has produced many false prophecies which completely undermine its claims to be God's organization. These attempts to use the Bible to predict the future on the authority of God's revelation have also exposed their incompetence in interpreting the Scriptures. The numerous contradictions in their literature only reinforce this conclusion. One clear example of all of this is their failed prediction that the end of this system of things and the dawn of a new era of peace on earth would come in 1975.

The idea was first introduced in the Watchtower book, "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God." It explains:

"The time is fast drawing near for the reality that was foreshadowed in the Jubilee of liberty to be proclaimed throughout the earth to all mankind now oppressed by many enslaving things. In view of the earth-wide situation and the world's condition, it appears most urgent for the liberation like that of the Jubilee to come soon. Most certainly the near future would be the most appropriate time for it. God's own written Word indicates that it is the appointed time for it," (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, pg. 26-27).

After arguing for specific dates for creation and other key biblical events, it goes on to explain:

"According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, pg 29).

After cobbling together some verses from the Psalms to imply that God literally perceives every thousand years as a 24 hour day, the book goes on to say:

"So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a Sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee Sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence," (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966 pp.29-30)

And then, drawing again on the Levitical year of Jubilee as a prophetic type of the dawning of the new age, it continues:

"The blessed time for its introduction is fast approaching. Shortly, within our own generation, the symbolical trumpet will be sounded by divine power, proclaiming "liberty in the land to all its inhabitants," (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966 pp.30)

This was not the first time the Watchtower had used the law of the "year of Jubilee" to produce this kind of false prediction. They had previously used it to arrive at the date 1925, about which they wrote:

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1918, p. 89).

The same bad approach to Scripture will continue to produce the same failed results. In the same year that "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God" introduced the 1975 prediction, another Watchtower publication elaborated on it:

"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. This is worthy of notice, particularly in view of the fact that the "last days" began in 1914, and that the physical facts of our day in fulfillment of prophecy mark this as the last generation of this wicked world. So we can expect the immediate future to be filled with thrilling events for those who rest their faith in God's promises. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfillment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the 'time of the end'," (Awake!, Oct. 8, 1966, pp.19-20).

The idea of 1914 and the "last generation" is another biblical error that has led to multiple failed Watchtower predictions. Here it was used to reinforce yet another one. The same Awake! magazine also explained:

"It was to our generation that Jesus referred when he added the key thought: 'this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.' (Matt. 25:34) The generation that saw the beginning of woes in 1914 would also see the end of Satan and his entire wicked system of things. Some who were alive then would still be alive when 'the end' comes. It is to be carefully noted that the youngest of those who saw with understanding the developing sign of the end of this system of things from its start in 1914 are now well over sixty years of age. In fact, the greater part of the adult generation that experienced the start of the "last days" has already passed away in death," (Awake!, Oct. 8 1966, pg. 18)

The Watchtower was not merely mistaken on one or two verses. Its interpretation of passages throughout the Bible, along with its central and defining doctrines like the matter of 1914, all pointed to 1975. The year came and went, and nothing happened. Nothing happened because the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong. Their interpretation of Scripture, their core doctrines, their alleged identity as God's prophet and chosen organization are all plainly and demonstrably false. Let their own words indict them:

"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

"Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!" (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8]

Trust in the true Word of God, not in the false teaching and fleshly thinking of these deceitful men.

Janosky:
Only a fraudulent person copies another man's work with out acknowledgement of the source.
This OP ,johnw47 is a fraud .

Your Source says "God is your throne" (NWT) is a legitimate translation of the Greek texts.
Their further attempts to discredit their own statement reeks of double standard , fraud and bias.

oh duh," cannot stop lying jano 

i acknowledged: "written by a christian", that's enough for me,
too bad that it's not enough for false accuser jano

the writer showed that "Your Throne O God" is the right translation,
but of course you jano lie and say it isn't, you are false jw, of course you would lie:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Heb. 1:8 and Psalm 45:6, "God is thy throne."
written by a christian

Your Throne O God "But with reference to the Son: 'God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness'" The New World Translation.

In this particularly interesting verse, God is addressing the Son. The Greek construction of Hebrews 1:8 allows the text to be translated in two legitimate ways:

"God is your throne forever and ever . . .
and
"Thy Throne O God, is forever and ever . . . "

Because of the Watchtower presupposition that Jesus is not God, they choose the first version; otherwise, the Father would be calling Jesus God, and that goes against Jehovah's Witness theology. Yet, most Bibles do not translate it the way the New World Translation does. They choose the other way. Why? Two reasons.

First, Heb. 1:8 is a quote from Psalm 45:6, which says,

"Thy Throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Thy Kingdom" (All Bible quotes are from the NASB).

In fact, the ASV, KJV, NIV, and NKJV all translated it as "Your throne, O God . . . " The RSV translates it as "Your divine throne endures for ever and ever," "but this is a highly unlikely translation because it requires understanding the Hebrew noun for "throne" in construct state, something extremely unusual when a noun has a pronominal suffix, as this one does . . . The KJV, NIV, and NASB all take the verse in its plain, straightforward sense, as do the ancient translations . . . "1

When we look at the Hebrew, we see that there is no grammatical requirement for this translation though it is considered to be the best translation by most translators. In and of itself, this is not conclusive because the context of this verse in Psalm 45 is dealing with a king which would make one wonder why he would be addressed as God; but, it is not uncommon for NT writers to take a verse in the OT that seemingly deals with one subject and apply it to another. They knew something we didn't. In fact, in Ezekiel 28:12-17 is a section that deals with the fall of the devil. Verse 13 describes how he was in the garden of Eden. Verse 14 says he was the anointed cherub, (v. 15), etc., but the context of this section begins with an address to the king of Tyre (v. 12). Yet, right after Ezekiel is told to write to the King of Tyre, he then goes on to describe what the great majority of theologians agree with--a description of the devil's fall. So, we need to look at the context into which the writer of Hebrews put Psalm 45:6. He addressed it to Jesus. Therefore, Psalm 45 is a Messianic Psalm and must in interpreted in light of the NT not the other way around.

Nevertheless, the context of this verse follows:

"For to which of the angels did He ever say, "Thou are My son, Today I have begotten Thee"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him, and He shall be a Son to Me"? 6And when he again brings the first-born into the world, He says, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." 7And of the angels He says "Who makes His angels winds, and His ministers a flame of fire." 8But of the Son He says, "Thy Throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom, 9Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy companions. 10And, "Thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Thy hands; 11They will perish, but though remainest . . . " (Heb. 1:5-11).

To say "God is your throne" doesn't make sense. What does it mean to say, "But to which of the angels did he say, God is your throne." What would that mean?

Also worth noting here is verse 10: "Thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Thy hands . . . " This is a quote from Psalm 102:24-25 which says, "I say, 'O my God, do not take me away in the midst of my days, Thy years are throughout all generations. 25Of old Thou didst found the earth; And the heavens are the work of Thy hands.'" Clearly, God is the one being addressed in Psalm 102. It is God who laid the foundations of the earth. Yet, in Heb. 1:10, Jesus is called 'Lord' and is said to be the one who laid the foundation of the earth. This becomes even more interesting when we note that in Isaiah 44:24 it says, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, "I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth all alone." If God was laying the foundations of the earth alone, that would mean that either Jesus has to be God, second person of the Trinity, who laid the foundation the same as YHWH did; or we have a contradiction in the Bible. Clearly, this section of Hebrews is proclaiming that Jesus is God. Therefore, contextually, it is best to translate Heb. 1:8 as, "Thy Throne, O God. . ." and the Father call Jesus God.

The Watchtower organization denies that Jesus is God. Therefore, it cannot permit any verses in the Bible to even hint that Jesus is God. That is why they choose a translation that does not best fit the context or overall theology of the Bible.

Janosky:
You be brain dead idiot.

now now false jw mumu brain
don't go getting yourself all angry and upset, you hear

you said: "i and the father are one" means that they are in agreement

but it also means they are one Lord - one God - one spirit, God is a Spirit

Jesus said Himself "God is one Lord"
he is not two gods as you false jw's falsely believe

TATIME:
Our friend's quotation as usual!

yes false jw tatime, the truth as usual, there is no doubt that you false jw's are habitual liars:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

the only doubt is in the minds of non believers:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

Janosky:
You be brain dead idiot.

there's no need to test the spirits of these false jw's - satans mob
their spirit is very obvious
and add to their foul language: habitual lying and confusion and there's no doubt about who their god is

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
.

Johnw47 brain done shut down because your first sentence is a CONTRADICTION of your last sentence.

"The two spirit beings God and the word are indeed two persons.. "

" ..of course they walk together in agreement, they are also the one spirit which is God."

you false jw's get it wrong every single post, there is no contradiction, just your blindness.
truly Father and the Word are two Spirit beings, truly they are two persons, duh
and they are the one spirit that is God, duh duh duh

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky: johnw47 talk say two persons (two Gods) who walk together are one person ..

typical false jw lying, two persons one God is what i say

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

but however you polytheist false jw jano do believe in two gods, almighty god the father and mighty god the son.

Janosky: In other words , (1cor6:15) the man & the harlot who "walk together in agreement" are one person
(Proof that your john1;1 is fake) .
Guy that substance wey U dey sniff is doing justice to your brain.

talk about false jw lies and confusion, it's never ending, just like your daddy devil:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil

Janosky: Thomas talk say Jesus na him Oga.
Jesus come still talk say him own Oga na the Oga of Thomas sake of say Jesus & Thomas dey serve that same Oga. (John 20:17,30,31).
.But Johnw47 no get brain to see am.
Welcome to johnw47's junk doctrine of Trinity

false jw jano, you false jw's are all painted with the same brush
you are as confused as can be, and lie like hell

Janosky:
"Jesus is both God and man...
A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically,a man is greater in position and authority than his wife but he is no different in nature- being human & they work together in love"


johnw47 sophistry is very weak and full of loopholes!

false jw jano, your method of posting is very confused and also nonsense

Janosky: "The one God", an Almighty spirit being, can NEVER WORK TOGETHER with himself . HE is not Jesus,who is a different spirit being. The two spirit beings are very distinct & can NOT be one entity

the two Spirit beings God and the Word are indeed two persons and the one God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Janosky: . Your fake analogy means that husband & wife is one being (one God) who share human nature. In other words, the man is husband & wife simultaneously. Likewise the woman simultaneously.
Oturugbeke !!!

oh duh, what nonsense, easy to see you are false jw,
husband and wife are two beings and they are both human
Father and the Word are two beings and they are both God,
of course you don't believe God's word and change the meaning

Janosky: Johnw47 quoted Gal 4:4
"When the time came ,God sent forth his son, born of a woman.. "
If Johnw47 understands English , that verse shows that in heaven Jesus is a son of God before the time he was born of a woman on earth.

a human father and his son are both human,
Father God and the Word are both God,
ask if you want me to post verses of Father God, calling Jesus "God"?

Janosky: According to Johnw47;
"Other verses to consider when examining his deity are John 10:30-33, 20:28.. ."


John 10:34-36
"Jesus answered them... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's son"

John 20:17
Jesus said.... I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"

Jesus is Father God's Son, He is also God the Word, He is both man and God

Jesus called Father: "Father" and "God"
oh duh so He is, Father called Jesus: "Son" and "God"

Janosky: Thomas called Jesus "my lord and my God", no shaking.

The Father and God of Jesus is the same Father and same God of Thomas & his fellow apostles . Jesus talk say himself & Thomas dey worship the only true God, Jehovah.
The Father and God of Jesus is GREATER THAN ALL" John 10;29
Therefore Jesus. NEVER thought or considered himself equal with God, even though he is a spirit being like his Father. John 14:28

Thomas calling Jesus my Lord and my God is very plain and clear,
but not after you false jw's do the twist on it

Janosky: (Johnw47 twisted Phil 2:6-9).

"We (my Father and I) are one" means two persons who. walk together in agreement . Amos 3:3

you false jw jano lied,
of course they walk together in agreement, they are also the one spirit which is God.
ask if you want me to post verses showing that Jesus is Jehovah God.

Janosky: Johnw47 dey spread junk doctrine of Trinity

false jw jano lies and dey spread junk doctrine on everything

Jesus' Two Natures: God and Man
written by a christian

Jesus is the most important person who has ever lived since he is the Savior, God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh (John 1:1, 14). This means that in the single person of Jesus he has both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1, 14). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9). Jesus' divine nature was not altered. Also, Jesus is not merely a man who "had God within Him," nor is he a man who "manifested the God principle." He is God in flesh, second person of the Trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word." (Heb. 1:3). Jesus' two natures are not "mixed together" (Eutychianism), nor are they combined into a new God-man nature (Monophysitism). They are separate yet act as a unit in the one person of Jesus. This is called the Hypostatic Union.

The following chart should help you see the two natures of Jesus "in action":

____________________GOD_____________________________________________MAN

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33)________________He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8_______________He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5)
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)___________________He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59)___________________________He prayed to the Father (John 17)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)________________He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He knows all things (John 21:17)______________________He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He gives eternal life (John 10:28)____________________He died (Rom. 5:8]
All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)____He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)

The Communicatio Idiomatum
A doctrine that is related to the Hypostatic Union is the communicatio idiomatum (Latin for "communication of properties"]. This is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human natures are ascribed to the one person of Jesus. This means that the man Jesus could lay claim to the glory He had with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5), claim that He descended from heaven (John 3:13), and also claim omnipresence (Matt. 28:20). All of these are divine qualities that are laid claim to by Jesus; therefore, the attributes of the divine properties were claimed by the person of Jesus.

One of the most common errors that non-Christian cults make is not understanding the two natures of Christ. For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses focus on Jesus' humanity and ignore His divinity. They repeatedly quote verses dealing with Jesus as a man and try to set them against Scripture showing that Jesus is also divine. On the other hand, the Christian Scientists do the reverse. They focus on the Scriptures showing Jesus' divinity to the extent of denying His true humanity.

For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) and yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1, 14).

The Bible is about Jesus (John 5:39). The prophets prophesied about Him (Acts 10:43). The Father bore witness of Him (John 5:37; 8:18). The Holy Spirit bore witness of Him (John 15:26). The works Jesus did bore witness of Him (John 5:36; 10:25). The multitudes bore witness of Him (John 12:17). And, Jesus bore witness of Himself (John 14:6; 18:6).

Other verses to consider when examining His deity are John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1.

1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Right now, there is a man in heaven on the throne of God. He is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). He is Jesus.

John 14:28, "The Father is greater than I."
written by a christian

"You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28).

Jesus said that the Father was greater than He not because Jesus is not God but because Jesus was also a man, and as a man, He was in a lower position. He was ". . . made for a little while lower than the angels . . ." (Heb. 2:9). Also in Phil. 2:5-8, it says that Jesus "emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men . . ."

Jesus has two natures. Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was merely acknowledging the fact that He was also a man. Jesus is both God and man. As a man, He was in a lesser position than the Father. He had added to Himself human nature (Col. 2:9). He became a man to die for people.

A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically, a husband is greater in position and authority than his wife, but, he is no different in nature, and he is no better than she. They share the same nature--being human, and they work together by love.

So, Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was simply acknowledging that He was also a man, and as a man, He was subject to the laws of God so that He might redeem those who were under the law, namely, sinners (Gal. 4:4-5).

For further reading please see The two natures of Jesus, below

Scriptures Quoted:
Phil. 2:5-8, "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
Col. 2:9, "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,"
Gal. 4:4-5, "But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."
Heb. 2:9, "But we do see Him who has been made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone."

TATIME:
@MhizAngel99
True Christians are preparing their minds for what the Bible calls Armageddon.

false, the bible doesn't call the event armageddon
the bible calls it "the battle of that great day of God Almighty". rev 16:14

armageddon or har-meddigo is the area in israel where the armed forces against God are gathered

Rev 16:16  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 



megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century bc and one in 609 bc. modern megiddo is a town approximately 40 kilometres (25 mi) west-southwest of the southern tip of the sea of galilee in the kishon river area in israel

TATIME: If not Jehovah's Witnesses, which religious organization could unravel such sacred secret?

ha ha ha