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TATIME:
Are you now on the side of Atheism after showing you how to silence them with efficacy? Are you now on the side of those who have been disregarding the book you claim to cherish and respect so much? Well Jesus the Nazarene you said you believe has cleared it all,He said "by their fruit you shall IDENTIFY them" Your faith plus your holy spirit couldn't silence ATHEISM so you're now against the FAITH that's WORKING that you yourself have witnessed.James 2:26 Going personal won't solve the issue,i came to represent JWs and you've seen that our own FAITH works

riofidelio, you are deceived

truly false jw rio, faith in the Word that is "a god", is a false faith

faith in a creator that is "an angel", is a false faith

faith in a holy spirit that is not God's Spirit or a person, is a false faith

2Ti_3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

TATIME:
Are you now on the side of Atheism after showing you how to silence them with efficacy? Are you now on the side of those who have been disregarding the book you claim to cherish and respect so much? Well Jesus the Nazarene you said you believe has cleared it all,He said "by their fruit you shall IDENTIFY them" Your faith plus your holy spirit couldn't silence ATHEISM so you're now against the FAITH that's WORKING that you yourself have witnessed.James 2:26 Going personal won't solve the issue,i came to represent JWs and you've seen that our own FAITH works

riofidelio, you think because one or two atheists don't want to have continued discussions with a self righteous false jehovahs witness that you have silenced atheism, ha ha such delusion

oh i have seen your faith alright rio, a puffed up dishonest faith, a faith in a false christ, a faith in a false holy spirit etc.
christians see you for what you are, but you rio-wum-tat don't see your blinded self:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

TATIME:
Are you now on the side of Atheism after showing you how to silence them with efficacy? Are you now on the side of those who have been disregarding the book you claim to cherish and respect so much? Well Jesus the Nazarene you said you believe has cleared it all,He said "by their fruit you shall IDENTIFY them" Your faith plus your holy spirit couldn't silence ATHEISM so you're now against the FAITH that's WORKING that you yourself have witnessed.James 2:26 Going personal won't solve the issue,i came to represent JWs and you've seen that our own FAITH works

ha ha, is realmindz an atheist? i agreed with the truth that realmindz said and you call it siding with atheism, but lying is what false jw do, keep fooling yourself false jw
your confusion and false assumptions come from your continued self righteousness and lies

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

false jw rio keeps saying he has the Holy Spirit, but he doesn't even know who the holy Spirit is, false jw says the Holy spirit is not God, is not a person, but is God's power only


God is omnipresent-everywhere, He fills heaven and earth:
Jer 23:23 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Psa 139:9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;


verse 7, thy spirit God's Holy Spirit is everywhere, thy presence God is everywhere



God is a Spirit:
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



the Holy Spirit(God) is everywhere, not just in the temple(body) of believers


and John 1:1 with many others verses show that the Word is God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

realmindz:
Create an accountdeactivate, open another , deactivate again, then use another account over an argument. It means you lack guts... Why should someone who can't be decisive be taken seriously?

exactly, and deactivating his riofidelio account has also taken his username from all of his ridiculous
contradicting posts of the past, no courage indeed:

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


but that's false jw for you:
false courage, false truth, false jesus, false holy spirit, etc.

Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

every gift from the Father is good, Jesus is a gift from the Father:

Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


Father and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

concerning false jw riofidelio-wum-tat:

1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings

TATIME:
You're just an accuser with no reasoning my friend but Primesky is talking with points and ready to reason from the scriptures so please don't be offended if i totally ignore you henceforth!

TATIME:
don't bother about whatever your friend John is saying because i'm through with him

ha ha, riofidelio-wum-tat,you false jw's cannot help but lie,
when you lie you are just talking naturally like your father god:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

riofidelio, you couldn't stop lying if your life depended on it, which it does:
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

TATIME:
You're just an accuser with no reasoning my friend but Primesky is talking with points and ready to reason from the scriptures so please don't be offended if i totally ignore you henceforth!

riofidelio-wum-tat, you are another copy cat, what i say in truth you throw back in lies
but once more that's what false jw's are known for, lying:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw47:
riofidelio-wum-tat, just more of your continued self rigfhteous puffed up prideful lies

you have said i am furious and i told you i'm not, now you say i have intense hate, which i don't
i don't like false jw as God doesn't like you,
but you keep on lying-accusing, that's what false jw's do, taking after their true father god:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
I never spoke nicely of you,

riofidelio-wum-tat to johnw47:

"well thanks and God bless you"

"God bless you! smiley "

"You are blessed in Jesus name amen!"

"Thanks John,i love you!"

"God bless you!"

"God bless you"




see how you cannot stop lying oh double minded riofidelio

Jas_1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

and rio you show that to be so true in your most every post

TATIME:
If you truly want to know the reason for our disagreement with the hellfire doctrine,then you need to answer few questions with REFERENCES from the Bible (1) When a person is truly nice,kind and good as in virtuous deeds but refuses to accept Jesus as his Lord, where will he spend eternity? (2) What happens to Adam and Eve? (3) How can God justify that HE is LOVE and forgives if HE(God) decides to retain an offender who spent 80 years to do evil(which is not possible because he will have his/her loved ones to whom he does good) in torment FOREVER I want us to take it one after the other with wisdom from God's word. Please don't bother about whatever your friend John is saying because i'm through with him as i've proved what i said so if he's still annoyed because i said there is greater wisdom in true Christianity then i can't help him. So answer those questions with references from the scriptures, thank you!

riofidelio-wum-tat, you say you are through with me but you cannot even avoid mentioning me in a post to another

ummm i don't believe i was even in the hellfire debate, ha ha such a phony jw

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

TATIME:
"You dislike JWs a long time ago" for disagreement in teaching,so did you dislike every other religion claiming Christians for the same reason? I never spoke nicely of you,i wanted to make peace in other for you to have a rethink.The ONLY reason all these churches aren't bearing the same name is as a result of difference in the mindset of the leaders. Therefore if you dislike ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses now i want you to realise that it's due to one single fact "Jesus claims to be the ONLY channel to reach God" every other religious leader of His time hated Jesus because they thought He was bragging so Jesus warned us that every other religious group will develop the same intense hatred for us as we claim the same thing! Matthew 10:22 John 17:16 You will notice that you have NO other reason than saying "JWs are self righteous braggats" and you amuse me as you keep equating us to Pharisees because they were not certain that their group alone was the ONLY channel! There were Saddusees,Scribes and other teachers of the law and none of them could claim to be the one and only until John the baptist came condemning all of them and directing everyone to Jesus who also did the same thing! So if you hate JWs my friend ask yourself,why? If it's that same reason "they're claiming to be the ONLY one" then you need to have a rethink! Yes you have faith but if your faith has no WORK then something is wrong somewhere, notice that i confidently told you "i will silence atheism in their own reasoning" and i kept telling you it's not just me but the holy spirit that's operating in me. So both you and i have FAITH but one is put to use "WORK" while the other is useless or DEAD(James 2:26) This is not mockery my friend it's called the TRUTH, most people will hear it and turn to rage while humble ones will hear it and rejoice for having the opportunity to know it and seize that OPPORTUNITY to make it their own! That is what i did before having this wisdom,it wasn't easy for me too when i first discovered that my religion was built on falsehood. If you can't stand hearing what is wrong with your beliefs then you can't preach effectively to convince another person to change his/her beliefs!

riofidelio-wum-tat, just more of your continued self rigfhteous puffed up prideful lies

you have said i am furious and i told you i'm not, now you say i have intense hate, which i don't
i don't like false jw as God doesn't like you,
but you keep on lying-accusing, that's what false jw's do, taking after their true father god:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

0temSapien:
Learn and be wise

it's not for you otem:

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Psa_94:8 Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye be wise?

0temSapien:
I'm sure you've learnt one or two parables from here. Winks.

you know i haven't, but here is one for you to learn:

the parable of the weeds

(Mat 13:37) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
(Mat 13:38) The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
(Mat 13:39) The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
(Mat 13:40) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
(Mat 13:41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
(Mat 13:42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
(Mat 13:43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

TATIME:

riofidelio, does that ^^^ mean you agree with otems post


https://www.nairaland.com/4437981/day-yahweh-disowned-god-almighty/3#69364839

TATIME:

https://www.nairaland.com/4462945/otem-sapiens-historical-account-saviour/1#69364719

TATIME:

alls not well in rio-wum-tat land

TATIME:
Instead of quarrelling with atheists who ridiculed your religion,you are now furious against a person who has ridiculed atheism and rendered it speechless

false jw riofidelio, not furious at all, i have disliked false jw for a long time, you have it wrong yet again

TATIME: Truly speaking Jesus is a perfect creature for He said "by their fruit you shall IDENTIFY them" Matthew 7:17-20 This podium has helped to uncover the secret person in you (Luke 6:45)so you can continue crying for all i care.Thank God there is freedom of expression and worship today otherwise a credulous,heartbroken,frustated and deluded individual like you will kill a true Christian out of uncontrolled envy(Genesis4:7) Sorry o keep crying. After trying to make peace with you,you are still angry since almost a week ago( Ephesians 4:26)yet you are claiming to be a Christian while i'm supposed to be the Pharisee.

and just a little while ago you spoke so nicely of me riofidelio

was it you who said otem is insane, lunatic, take a look at yourself, laugh

Jas_1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

rio-wum-tat
1 you false jw rio + came to this atheist otem's thread to show me how to deal with atheist otem,
2 otem runs away from you rio and his thread,
3 otem comes back to his thread and then you rio run away from otem saying you are here to post against christians

ha ha, such are you rio, a weak dishonest false jw, you are all over the place
same as otem

0temSapien:
you need to be upgraded in the matter of the brain to understand things clearly. No offence intended.

otem, your insults don't cover up your lies

johnw47:
otem you said lovers of science are gods of science
and you said the gods of science speak the seriot language
however lovers of science do not speak seriot

you and doctufos lying again otem

TATIME:
"TAKE SIDE" Well we Jehovah's servants just don't take sides with sentiment my friend. We listen GOOD to all conversations and then take side when we notice DIVINE WISDOM. James 1:19 compared to Matthew 16:16-19,22-23

rio-wum-tat whoever, diffrent names but still the same self righteous pharisee

wisdom of the self rigfhteous is wisdom of the world:
(1Co 1:20) Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?


your wisdom of pleasing a person and then putting him down is seen by everyone but you to be foolishness:
Pro_10:23 It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.

0temSapien:
You're very right!

your very wrong, i luv to put god haters in their place
if you were normal you would surely see that by now

LordCenturion:
@ Ahasco , this has been started for long time, so it's not new to everyone that's y we ignore him including 0temSapien, am just wondering why u just notice this now, don't u know that there are two types of madness, Internet one and real life one, I think both are affecting him, because wat he has been typing here doesn't make sense and doesn't have meaning, i wonder how they understand him at home. if u visit him, maybe he's on chain and they just give him phone and little data so that he won't feel the pain of been locked down, so that he can display the Internet one , @ Ahasco, just watch, he will reply me with nonsense

LordCenturion:
He was just typing without getting any reply,he suppose to notice the way people are seeing him right now..

ha ha turion, you couldn't understand them

no suprise there

0temSapien:
Learn from history

when are you going to

0temSapien:
Here are some Seriot scripts, do enjoy them

otem you said lovers of science are gods of science
and you said the gods of science speak the seriot language
however lovers of science do not speak seriot

you and doctufos lying again otem

0temSapien:
comedian

you know it's true, you had it affirmed,
the god of you and doctufos is satan:

0temSapien As God Almighty is right there from the beginning without beginning, there was no human being in existence to christen him at the beginning. WHat name have you chosen to christen God Almighty now, please tell me? Yahweh, Allah, Atum, Odin, Olorun, etc all called its consciousness 'Reverad' back in those days before it told them that they should stop worshipping it.
Now CHoose for YOurself. WHAt name will you like to call OUR GOD ALMIGHTY(THE SUMMATION OF EXISTENCE)? The choice is left for you to make.

johnw47
1. unknown to the doctufos mob satan has always been the name of your god
2. but if you like there are now two satans, the one you think is someone else
and the real one who is the god of the doctufos
3. i now enter it into the doctufos:


Doctufos

Book of johnw

Chapter1

1. by the request of OtemSapien alias OtemAtum
I have named the god of Doctufos and of OtemSapien alias OtemAtum and all the Doctufos mob
2. I named him: SATAN
3. let it be so from this time and forever more
4. so be it.

0temSapien:
This is one of the stories Mosheh(Yahweh) wrote in his last reincarnation to the earth. Yahweh is just like a microorganism claiming to be as big as a giant whale.

Isa_46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

aha, gen, What do you call a wizard aboard a ufo-a flying saucer?

otem the flying sorcerer.

aha, gen, another meaning of UFO which could be stated after most of otems posts is:

utter foolishness otem

Ahasco:
This is how it starts. Before you know it they take off their clothes and start wandering the neighborhood. Mind you Nigeria has no place for such people oo, at least for now.!

aha, well i knew of otems UFO's-"unidentified funny otems"
and about his "unidentified frying objects" but i didn't know before about otems
"unique foraging obsession"
thanks

TATIME:
You can say whatever you feel like saying,the reaction of these atheists themselves is enough proof to judge between us. I promised to silence them,as if you are so dumb you failed to notice how i draw Otem outside the podium to expose his lack of wisdom and started hitting him with powerful words. Atheists are here to debunk religion but their subtle approach blur peoples reasoning because they're blaming religion for been furious,provoked and judgmental towards unbelievers. So i pretended not to be offended with all that Otem was saying against Jehovah,Jesus and the Bible but as if we're to be tolerant towards everyone no matter what they think. And GBAM!!! Otem ran into the trap! and started displaying his provocation as if i must conform to whatever he said Whereas the motto of atheism is "freedom from mind control" so they are totally against "trying,compelling or forcing others to conform to ideologies" That's why i started lashing him with words because his own action is totally against the ideology of atheism!

i will tell you what i am not so dumb as to have noticed,
that you are here on your third account, and you have implied that otem is insane and lacking wisdom
and i agree with that, but he is not the only one rio-wum-tat whoever, and that you are even more so if possible

TATIME:
There are two roads as in just TWO my friend.( Matthew 7:13,14) Those on the broad means majority of mankind who are still following the traits of Adam and Eve(our first parent) who wanted absolute freedom even from their creator. Genesis 2:17,3:5 And Those on the narrow connotes few individuals who love orderliness so all they have to do is FIND Jehovah's organization. Atheists have stand out clear that they belong to the broad road(NO SUBMITION) That makes your case easy before us,billions are still been deceived by religion thinking they are subjecting themselves to God but unfortunately they're also under Satan's domains, these are the ones we're searching for. Whenever they hear the sound of true wisdom they'll join us. John 10:27 So never think i came to your thread to convince atheists NO! I came purposely because of those professing to be Christians arguing with you,if any of them truly belongs to our group they'll notice divine wisdom and start looking for where and how i got it. As for you Otem,you yourself knew truthfully speaking that i've made a difference since you've been ARGUING with those claiming Christians,you knew quite well that i never argued with you but show you what WISDOM truly means Farewell my friend

well look whose back, whose back, whose back, whose back
i don't think even the so called jehovahs witnesses here would want to side with you after reading all of your delusional posts

OtemAtum:
God ALMIGHTY is everything in EXISTENCE and Existence itself. It is not created and can never go into extinction. Yahweh is one out of the uncountable creatures of God Almighty.
Without God(EXISTENCE) we cannot even be here not to talk of dying.
GOD IS GREAT!

otem, your god almighty of existence is named satan, you helped make that official