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Importance Downplayed

Proclaimers deceptively claims that the failure of 1925 affected just a small minority.

"The year 1925 came and went. Some abandoned their hope. But the vast majority of the Bible Students remained faithful.” Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.78

We have already seen from Watchtower statistics that over half left the organisation.

An interesting tactic that downplays the importance is seen in the following quote. It is admitted that attendance dropped "in France and Switzerland", which misleadingly makes it seem other countries were not equally affected.

"But some of their time calculations and the expectations that they associated with these gave rise to serious disappointments. Following 1925, meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations in France and Switzerland." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633

Similar intellectual dishonesty can be identified in the 1980 Yearbook, which misquotes from the Watchtower of 1926 in an attempt to downplay the sentiment of 1925. Notice how only half a sentence is quoted, with a full stop replacing a semi-colon.

Yearbook 1980 p.62

"Indicative of this testing was the question meeting held by Brother Rutherford during the Basel, Switzerland, assembly, which took place May 1-3, 1926. The report on this convention stated:

Question: Have the ancient worthies returned?

Answer: Certainly they have not returned. No one has seen them, and it would be foolish to make such an announcement. It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion."

Watchtower 1926 Jul 1 p.196

"Question: Have the ancient worthies returned?

Answer: Certainly they have not returned. No one has seen them, and it would be foolish to make such an announcement. It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925. There is no good reason why we should expect the ancient worthies to return until the church is complete and the work of the church on earth is done."

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters
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Ongoing Date Implications

Watchtower incorrectly promoted teachings on the following dates that they no longer accept:

539 A.D.
1780
1798
1799
1829
1840
1844
1846
1872
1874
1878
1880
1881
1891
1906
1910
1914
1915
1917
1918
1920
1921
1925
1926
1928
1932
1935
1940s
1951
1975
2000

Despite being known for their failed predictions of Armageddon, Watchtower does not hold back from criticising other religions that do the same.

"RELIGIOUS LEADERS sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers. Doomsday prophet Harold Camping and his disciples widely advertised that the earth would be destroyed in 2011. Needless to say, the world is still here." Watchtower 2014 May 1 p.3

Watchtower history is based around the doomsday message that the end is about to come. Statements abound such as in the 1930's book The New World;

"The Scriptures give good reason to believe that it shall be shortly before Armageddon breaks."

Toward the end of the twentieth century, the Watchtower Society refrained from issuing specific dates for Armageddon, but still has not stopped implying dates and time frames.

Luke warned about those whose message is that the "due time has approached."

"He said: "Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'I am he,' and, 'The due time has approached.' Do not go after them." Luke 21:8

MaxInDHouse:
Thread for Wisdom.

Aemmyjah: Thread for wisdom

lost false jw's mad max and lost false jw aemmy
you false jw's are so queer, aren't you:

1Co_6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1Co 6:10  nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

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Shifting Blame

It is reprehensible that from the moment Rutherford's prediction proved wrong (and continuing to this day) the Governing Body shifted the blame for the false expectation away from themselves and onto the members.

"It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925." Watch Tower 1926 Jul 1 p.196

"Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not so state." Watch Tower 1926 Aug 1 p.232

"Instead of its being considered a 'probability,' they read into it that it was a 'certainty'." Yearbook 1975 p.146

"Ever since the 1870's, Bible Students had been serving with a date in mind - first 1914, then 1925. Now they realized that they must serve for as long as Jehovah wishes." Watchtower 1993 Nov 1 p.12

"On the basis of what was said there, many hoped that perhaps the remaining ones of the little flock would receive their heavenly reward by 1925. … Though mistaken, they eagerly shared it with others." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632

Rather than accept responsibility for stumbling followers with their false 1925 teachings, Watchtower derogatively describes these ones as chaff.

"Although these tests resulted in a sifting and some blew away like chaff when wheat is winnowed, others remained firm." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633

Current Watchtower comments about 1925, such as in Proclaimers, attempt to whitewash the failure, or shift the blame to the members. However, on one occasion, Rutherford candidly made the following admission;

“Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, “I made an ass of myself.”” Watchtower 1984 Oct 1 p.24

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"The "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" slogan applied only to the "great crowd" of "other sheep," mentioned in the Scriptures at Revelation 7:9 and John 10:16, whose destiny is an earthly paradise." Watchtower 1963 May 15 p.294

"In the early 1920's, a featured public talk presented by Jehovah's Witnesses was entitled "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." This may have reflected overoptimism at that time. But today that statement can be made with full confidence." Watchtower 1997 Jan 1 p.11

"This must be the class of persons that are often described as 'the millions now living that will never die'." Today, it is thrilling actually to see millions of these being marked for preservation, as they put on the true Christian personality, in a dedicated relationship to Jehovah through Christ Jesus. ...
Presented at that time was conclusive proof identifying the "great crowd" of Revelation 7:9 with the Lord's "other sheep" of John 10:16, with the Jehonadab class, with those marked in the forehead for survival, with the millions now living who will never die, and with "the sheep"... " Watchtower 1985 Mar 1 p.14

These statements are complete falsehoods. Rutherford's message was the very opposite of what these articles claim. He was not preaching that millions of Watchtower followers were never to die, in fact the few thousand Bible Students all expected to die and go to heaven, as either the Little Flock or Great Crowd. At that time, the teaching was that the Great Crowd would go to heaven. The "Millions" that Rutherford was referring to who would never die were the rest of humankind alive at that time.

The dishonesty that Watchtower displays is even more disturbing when considering the context of the Watchtower 1963 May 15 p.294. This quote is part of an article entitled "Taking Liberties with The Truth," which criticises people that misrepresent what Jehovah's Witnesses believe.

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The Harp of God went into great detail to explain God's generosity in saving the majority of humankind, to be educated in this new system of things. After referencing Isaiah 35:4-6 to describe life in this earthly New System, it went on to say;

"When these great miracles begin to be performed in the earth, then the most skeptical, it is to be hoped, will believe that the Lord Jesus reigns." The Harp of God p.331

Page 333 describes God's promise to Noah to never again smite "every living thing" as proof Armageddon will not result in a great human slaughter. "The majority of mankind practice unrighteousness" according to page 334, and these are the ones that will be given the opportunity to learn to practice righteousness during the reign of the Messiah. This was a fair concept that showed God's love and reasonableness towards humankind.

Current Misapplication

The Proclaimers book properly indicates that early Bible Students believed the majority of worldly people would survive Armageddon.

"[Bible Students] Understood that people then living-mankind in general-had the opportunity to survive right into the time of restitution and that they would then be educated in Jehovah's requirements for life. If obedient, they would gradually attain to human perfection. If rebellious, they would, in time, be destroyed forever." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.163

More often though, the Watchtower misleadingly indicates that the teaching of "millions now living" was overoptimism, as if the teaching back then coincided with the current doctrine that only Jehovah's Witnesses would be saved onto earth as part of the Great Crowd.

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters

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An aware Watchtower reader cannot help but see the irony in the following statement.

"Down through the centuries since Jesus day, so many unfulfilled predictions have been made that many no longer take them seriously. … Undeterred by previous failures, some seem to have been spurred on by the approach of the year 2000 and have made further predictions of the end of the world. … The flood of false alarms is unfortunate. They are like the wolf-wolf cries of the shepherd boy people soon dismiss them, and when the true warning comes, it too is ignored." Awake 1993 Mar 22 3-4 Why So Many False Alarms?

It is sad to see how the Watchtower accounts for the wrong predictions of the past. Rather than accepting responsibility, subtle wording deflects the fault to the members.

"Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah's name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations." Watchtower 1979 Jul 1 p.29 How Jehovah Guides His People

It is an interesting attitude that the Governing Body shows towards its followers. It appears to feel that people will not serve Jehovah if the do not think he is about to shortly reward them with paradise; that if there is no urgency and no date to work for and pin hopes on, then people will drift away. This is an insult to individual motives. Many Churches are undergoing great growth without any such date as motivation. People have served God for generations based purely on the concept that they will see him in heaven at the end of their earthly life. Seventh-day Adventists follow the Witness concept of this being the last days; yet they have reached similar numbers of people sharing similar morals not based on working to a date but knowing that the time left is short and love of God is what is of primary importance.

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Who Were the Millions?

Russell had proposed that Watchtower followers were to go to heaven, whilst most of the remainder of humanity would survive Armageddon to be educated personally by Jesus in paradise earth.

"He takes mankind as he finds them, and during the Millennial age will deal with each individual of the world according to his own particular condition, having mercy upon the weak and requiring more of the stronger, …" Studies in the Scriptures - The New Creation p.114

Rutherford continued to promote this teaching. In the New System, freed from the influence of Satan, Jesus would directly teach all people and give them the opportunity to choose if they wished to live forever serving him. Salvation was not contingent on becoming a Watchtower follower, or even a believer in Jesus. In fact, the churches were criticised for teaching that their members exclusively would be saved.

"The church systems would have the people believe that only those who become church members can be saved. The Bible never taught any such doctrine. ... Jesus died not only for those who will constitute the members of the church, but for all. St. John plainly stated: "He is the propitiation [satisfaction] for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world".-l John 2:2." Millions Now Living Will Never Die! p.94

It would be impossible for the human race, therefore, to accept the gift of life everlasting before it is offered. It will be offered only in God's due time and the divine plan shows that his due time is after the seed of promise is developed, after the kingdom is setup; and then each one in his order will be brought to a knowledge of the fact that a plan of redemption exists and that the way is open for him to accept the terms of it and live.... Millions Now Living Will Never Die! pp.95-96

The remainder of mankind have not heard it; therefore could not keep it. They will hear, however, in due time after the establishment of the kingdom. Then it shall come to pass that every one who will keep the saying of the Lord shall never see death. Millions Now Living Will Never Die! pp.96-97

Based upon the argument heretofore set forth, then, that the old order of things, the old world, is ending and is therefore passing away, and that the new order is coming in, and that 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction, it is reasonable to conclude that millions of people now on the earth will be still on the earth in 1925. Then, based upon the promises set forth in the divine Word, we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die." Millions Now Living Will Never Die! p.97

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters

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2033

2033 is not a changed date but shows the attitude of serving to a date still seems to exist within the Organization. In 2003 a concept was touched upon, with attention being draw to the fact that Noah's last days went for 120 years.

In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."-Genesis 6:17. Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in "the time of the end." (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? "He that does the will of God remains forever," states the Bible. (1 John 2:17) Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah's will with a keen sense of urgency." Watchtower 2003 Dec 15 p.15 "Warned of "Things Not Yet Beheld"
There is no specific statement in the article that the end must come by the end of 120 years or exactly on the 120th year. However, like with 1975, a parallel is drawn to yet another concept that is supposed to indicate that the end is soon to be upon us.

Knowing what has been written in the pages of the Watchtower in regards to Armageddon's arrival at many different years in the past how can anyone trust the Society after reading a quote like the following?

"A real champion of God's Word, the Holy Bible, and of God's kingdom that will restore God's rightful place in the hearts of men is The Watchtower. For ninety years this faithful journal has been pointing forward to this very time, urging people to turn to the Bible because of the spiritual famine that the Bible itself foretold was to come in our generation." Awake! 1970 Jan 8 p.32

one of the diffrences; so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets and false date setters

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2000

2000 was not stated to be the end, but there was strong indication that it would be impossible for Armageddon not to come before 2000.

"And if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation." Watchtower 1980 Oct 15 p.31

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216

"Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!" Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19

"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century". Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12.

The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library. Click on the thumbnails to compare the magazine version to the bound volume.

I pioneered during the late 1980's and was strongly influenced by the statements in the 1980's articles. I told my Bible studies and many people when preaching that it would be almost impossible that the end would not have arrived by the year 2000.

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Preaching that the earthly resurrection would commence in 1925 resulted in tremendous growth for the Watchtower Society.

"This resulted in bringing into the sanctuary many more to be members of this remnant consecrated by Jehovah. This was evident from the increasing attendance at the annual celebrations of the Lord's evening meal,
32,661 participating in 1922;
42,000 in 1923;
62,696 in 1924; and
90,434 in 1925. ...
89,278 [in 1926]"
Watchtower 1960 May 1 p.282

The converse occurred after 1925 came and went without incidence. Memorial attendance dropped by three-quarters, from 88,544 in 1927 to just 17,380 in 1928. (Watchtower 1955 p.366; Yearbook 1929 p.55) (Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.313) It is estimated that as many as 75% of publishers left the religion and by 1935 memorial attendance was still only 63,146.3 It took until 1940 to once again reach the same number of Watchtower followers as the pre-1925 era.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep on following me up and down the forum!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

of course i will continue to show up a few of your very many lies and some of your much confusion etc.
don't be confused about that oh dum dum

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

johnw47:
like i said mad max; you tell me how people can identify Jesus disciples and i will show you where you are wrong
don't keep running away from it

run run run run, run away

lost false jw mad max

you should read my last 5 or so posts to you again
and try to comprehend instead of posting your lies/false accusations

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
How can people IDENTIFY Jesus' disciples?
Highlighted shows you're just bluffing whereas you are empty headed!

cannot stop lying lost false jw mad max:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

like i said mad max; you tell me how people can identify Jesus disciples and i will show you where you are wrong
don't keep running away from it

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
So there are many many many liars but you're fund of only one out of thousands shey?

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

like i have often said, you are one of the worst, oh confused dum dum

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid now answer me using the scriptures not your brainwashed head:

never able to stop lying false jw mad max:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: How can people IDENTIFY Jesus' disciples?

i know who they are not, don't i
you tell me who they are and i will show you where you are wrong

i have already shown you that you liars and blasphemers and paranoid ones
are not Jesus disciples

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
See the person who said i Maximus is following his articles from the Internet up and down. For almost a year now he's been quoting me incessantly as if i'm the only person on Nairaland while i'm moving from thread to thread chatting with others!

lost false jw mad max

it's because there is no other liar quite like you, and that's what i do,
i expose the lies of you frauds who claim to be God's people, remember,
i have told you that often enough oh so dum one

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
So religionists who don't lie, don't blasphem and not paranoid are Jesus' disciples no matter what their religion teaches shey?

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


very dum and confused and lost false jw mad max

not lying and not blaspheming and not being paranoid alone, does not make one a disciple of Jesus
but lying and blaspheming and being paranoid like you are shows that you are not a disciple of Jesus
and your blaspheming the Holy Spirit alone, shows that you are lost:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

achorladey:
Whenever he wants to cover up his lies, he starts to looking for Greek and Hebrew words.

Simple primary school work

Words synonyms
Old ancient

He wants to start more lies and manipulations.

that's what false jw's do

achorladey:
Werey peddling brains collect your you will never have order in your life as captured in the screenshot

What is another word for days of yore?
ancient times bygone times days of old good old days old days olden days.

Werey peddling dey your brains

they so confused
it seems that janonsense must be replying to voices in his head much of the time

MaxInDHouse:
So how can people RECOGNIZE Jesus' disciples today?

lost and confused false jw mad max

people can easily recognise Jesus disciples today, Jesus disciples are not habitual liars, they don't blaspheme,
they are not paranoid, etc., like you disciples of the devil are

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Janosky:
John W LYING miscreant , you are deceiving yourself.

lost fraud jw janosky

quote my lies and deceit
you forever the false accuser like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Janosky: I have responded to Sparrow's question & he can't counter the biblical evidence to his questions.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

then you should reply to sparrow about that, oh very dum one

Janosky: Shame on you deceitful man playing the victim card.

so funny, you replying to voices in your head again

Janosky: When Emusan your friend & fellow Trinitarian started the barrage of insults at 10:55am (in the 2 screenshots), did you ever caution him?

i don't read many posts, i just noticed your continued nonsense, oh dummy

Janosky: John 8:44 applies to you deceitful man
WHENEVER JOHN W SPEAKS,HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING,
Please carry your LYING komot from this public forum.
The Nairaland evidence is irrefutablely against you.

lost and tormented janosky, of course you can never stop lying like the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
If you can't present the perfect religion that's practicing what you believe is right then all what you have in your head is your own PERSONAL OPINION.
God's faithful worshipers practice pure worship today and Jesus Christ said they will be RECOGNIZED! Matthew 5:14-16

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;




Mat 5:14  "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 
Mat 5:15  nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 
Mat 5:16  "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. 

lost false jw mad max

lies, paranoia, blasphemy, etc. is darkness, not light oh deluded one

you so called Jehovah's witnesses are recognized here for your darkness; lies and paranoia and blasphemy, etc.
you are recognized for the darkness of your sewer mouths etc, yes your great darkness is recognized
not so much when you go door to door, you pretend to be like sheep then

Mat 7:15  "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  You will know them by their fruits.

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Increase, then Decrease

After 1918, the Millions teaching became the central focus of the preaching effort, being delivered through a series of public lectures by Rutherford and other brothers. These were advertised in local newspapers, as displayed in the following clippings.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't even believe in Jesus because he has a global family of peace loving worshipers who are zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all their neighborhood! Act 1:8
So if you can't relate with any known group then you're simply deceiving yourself!

lost false jw mad max

so called Jehovah's witnesses who lie and blaspheme and are paranoid
are not peace loving worshippers, you are of course deceiving yourself

Pro_12:15  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,

MaxInDHouse:
Christians are modern day WORSHIPERS of the true God that has been trained by His son to preach and teach God's Kingdom while ancient WITNESSES of the true God obeyed His laws that He gave them in their time.
The difference between the two is that a Christian may turn back for one reason or the other but a WITNESS of the true God will serve God doing what pleases God till his last breath.

lost false jw mad max

liars, paranoid persons, and blasphemers of the Holy Spirit
are not witnesses of the true God

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


and you often say; no other group have peace like your group,
truly it is not God's peace that liars, the paranoid, and blasphemers, have

MaxInDHouse:
God forgives all sins that man commits no matter what it is but knowing God's plan, seeing it working out and consistently kicking against it is UNFORGIVABLE!

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

lost false jw mad max

God's word says that; "blaspheming and speaking against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven"
you go against God's word saying that; "God forgives all sins that man commits no matter what it is"

and then after saying; "God forgives all sins that man commits no matter what it is"
you then say; "consistently kicking against God's plan is unforgivable"

false jw, this kind of babble and confusion comes from being a liar like the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


so called Jehovah's witnesses don't teach God's word
but constantly teach lies made up in their heads

false jw's speak lies like the devil, it's your natural way of speaking, john 8:44 above

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Basis of 1925 Doctrine

What was the basis for claiming the Scriptures so definitely proved the earthly resurrection would begin in 1925?

"Seventy jubilees of fifty years each would be a total of 3500 years. That period of time beginning 1575 before A.D. 1 of necessity would end in the fall of the year 1925, at which time the type ends and the great antitype must begin. Millions Now Living Will Never Die! p.88

"Seventy times 50 are 3,500. The whole period would therefore have been 3,500 years from the time the Jews entered Canaan until all the types would have been fulfilled. As they entered Canaan 1,575 years before Christ there would be 1,925 years of types after Christ, or 1925 A. D." The Way to Paradise p.223

It is a sad indictment on human gullibility that Watchtower followers can accept such flimsy evidence as unquestionable proof.

Early 1925, Rutherford started back peddling on such certainties.

"How much of all this will come to pass in 1926 is not stated. At present we do not find any definite date beyond 1926 indicated in the Scriptures. When the Bible Students found 1914 in the Bible they heralded it far and wide, but the Lord left the curtain down at that date until we had reached it. God set his seal upon 1914, and the work started that year is still going on. We find the date 1925-1926 clearly indicated in the prophetic outline, and the Lord has not lifted the curtain sufficiently for us to see distinctly beyond." Watch Tower 1925 Feb 15 p.58

many make up things in their heads
here is what God's word say's:

Mat 12:24  But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebul the ruler of the demons."

Mat 12:31  "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. 

Jesus cast out demons by the Holy Spirit
the pharisees said Jesus cast out demons by the the devil
^^ that specifically is the unforgivable sin; calling the Holy Spirit in Jesus "beelzebul/the devil"

but verse 32 further say's; speaking against the Holy Spirit wont be forgiven

the Holy Spirit has been called at these forums; "a dog head/one of three dog heads", < that speaking against the Holy Spirit won't be forgiven
the Holy Spirit has been called at these forums; "the unholy ghost", < that speaking against the Holy Spirit won't be forgiven

saying a lie and claiming that the Holy Spirit told you, < that speaking against the Holy Spirit won't be forgiven

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914;…" Watchtower 1924 Jul 15 p.211

Could there be any more direct evidence of an organization that promoted false prophecy in the name of God? How could Rutherford say that his followers had more reason to accept his prediction of 1925 than Noah had to believe the words directly spoken by Jehovah?

Rutherford gloated that those criticising the 1925 predictions would fail.

"We cannot be blamed for presenting from the Scriptures such evidence as they afford which leads us to believe that a certain event will take place at a given time. Some times the Lord has let His people looking for the right thing at the wrong time, and more frequently they have looked for the wrong things at the right time. But all the enemies of the cause of present truth in the earth are fervently hoping that the Bible students will not be so successful in 1925 in looking for the right thing at the right time as they were in 1914. If they are, however, it will be the other fellow that will have to do the explaining, and not we." Golden Age 1924 Feb 13 p.314

As evidence of the imminence of the end, articles showed how Jesus' signs were being fulfilled. For instance, a spate of earthquakes in the United States in 1925 were used to motivate followers.

"1925 A YEAR OF EARTHQUAKES
On June 27th and 28th the state of Montana experienced a series of earthquake shocks which cracked many buildings and caused others to sway dangerously. ... The whole earth seems to be uneasy, getting ready for the greatest of all earthquakes, the one predicted by the Lord as due at this time no doubt." The Broadcaster 1925 Jul 13

Janosky:
Dunce WAILING & deceiving himself as if he knows what he's typing
The dude can never explain anything from the bible except to quote John & 1 Corinthians 14:33 showing the evidence of confusion among his 3 deities devotees led by the same ghost.

again you accuse the Holy Spirit of causing confusion, of course


lost fraud jw janosky

and you keep showing over and over again how you love to blaspheme the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
calling them 3 deities which is 3 gods:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Janosky: Oga,Read the peace in the screenshots

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


false jw, in your attachments you compare fraud pastors to the Church who have God's Peace
u such a confused dummy, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints