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MaxInDHouse:
you've been influenced by the lies of Christendom Churches

lost false jw mad max

it's well known from your posts that you oppose Christendom/Christianity/all Christians worldwide,
and you love to repatidly let it be known
there is not lies in all Chistianity/Christendom as you say, but there is cetainly lies among you false jw's though, isn't there:

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.



Christendom

1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.

MaxInDHouse:
Who are those seeking higher powers?
~to fight and destroy their enemies.
~to gain material possessions.
~to protect what they have accumulated.
~to continue to dominate.
~to reign in Satan's world.
~to kill or curse whoever offends them.
~to connect higher level for connections.
All these are the things WITCHES crave for that's why Jesus told his own disciples:
“On this account I say to you: Stop being anxious about your lives as to what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your bodies as to what you will wear. Does not life mean more than food and the body than clothing? Observe intently the birds of heaven; they do not sow seed or reap or gather into storehouses, yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth more than they are? Who of you by being anxious can add one cubit to his life span?
Jesus added:
"Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you. So never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Each day has enough of its own troubles"
Matthew 6:25-27, 33-34
Satan uses all these things as traps because no matter who you are or where you come from one out of those seven things will entice you to seek power or position from Satan! Luke 4:5-7

lost false jw mad max

my post wasn't about witches. it was about something specific you said in this thread, oh run away one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

know Christ for yourself if you are genuine

1. during a quite time, perhaps before going to sleep in bed
say, not out loud but in the quiteness of your mind: "Christ I want to know you"
if you are serious He will start the ball rolling.

2. during a time of trouble say sincerely in your mind; "Christ help me"

MaxInDHouse:
The answer to your question lies in a research:
What leads people into witchcraft?
If you don't know the reason why many people go into witchcraft you can't understand the sudden disappearance nowadays.
Before the white man's religion people go into SPIRITISM to protect themselves from bullies and oppressors, for instance imagine a market woman selling groceries mistakingly collided with a female military personnel and the other lady beat or slapped her what do you expect her to do? Surely she will be the one to beg for truce but what if she had a spiritual power to deal with the female military personnel?
Haha!
That's how many are recruited into witchcraft where they are promised power to revenge.
But after the Catholic Church was rendered less powerful majority of protestants seek spiritual powers which they used to oppress those who went into spiritism this led to a turn around in the way people reason and so many now goes to churches of Christendom for that higher power to conquer witchcraft.
An example is one Nigerian in the earth 1900s called APOSTLE Joseph Ayo Babalola this man got some strange powers and used it to battle witchcraft within his locality leading many into his church as they now feel the Jesus' power is higher than that of witches, till today the churches of Christendom are still advertising the superior power of their Jesus as if that is what the man from Nazareth came to teach.
So what happened to Nigerian witches today?
Ask the Churches of Christendom because they have turned people's minds away from seeking spiritual help from their local deities to the deception that Jesus will give them higher powers but the secret remains that witchcraft continues in the society as those involved are no longer fighting for power to deal with their neighbors rather they are seeking dominion unfortunately many are being recruited into modern day witchcraft in the name of religion as they go into politics and big time commerce the only way to know what Satan is using them for is mass killings here and there in the name of politics! Revelations 6:3-4

lost false jw mad max

of course you are against all of the Churches of Christendom/Christianity,
because you are a false Jehovah's witness, a fake/a fraud:

Christendom

1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.

as for us Christians, we would say; "Ask some of the Churches of Christendom because they have turned people's minds away"

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Jesus didn't teach false prophecies and false date settings

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Media

The media ran articles reporting on Watchtower's and its message that the end would be by 1975. The following examples are from 1969.

Janosky:
*
Did any angel have one on one conversations with a human being in your Bible?
Yes.
**
Did Jesus Christ a spirit being in heaven had one on one conversations with Saul on earth @Acts 9:3-6?
Yes.
Did Jehovah God, the Supreme Spirit Being had one on one conversations with Moses @ Exodus 6:1-3?
Yes.
Oga Sparrow wey get knowledge, where is the verse & chapter of your ghost deity one on one conversation with a human being in your Bible?
None.
God's finger (Luke 11:20. Matthew 12:28) is not a being.
Your Trinitarian mentors made God's finger a deity in 381 AD.Go & verify.
Dummy Sparrow

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

talk about a dummy, you don't understand God's word at all

The Holy Spirit is not literally God's finger, God's finger there is referring to God's Power Who is the Holy Spirit
just as Jesus Christ is not literally a lamb, the Lamb of God is referring to Jesus' innocence and to Him being offered up

Luk_11:20  But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Joh 1:29  The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!


1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

false prophets and false date setters are not Christians let alone better than other Christians

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Fear Mongering

The Watchtower publications dwelt extensively on how bad world conditions were, using secular quotes to support that the world could not continue beyond 1975. For instance, Awake! 1968 Oct 8 included the following quote on page 15;

"… U.S. Secretary of State Dean Acheson said in 1960: "I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in 15 years from today [or, by 1975], this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."

Also from the same page:

"One of the greatest problems, beyond man's solving, is the coming food shortage due to the population explosion. In the book Famine-1975! food experts W. and P. Paddock state:
"By 1975 a disaster of unprecedented magnitude will face the world. Famines, greater than any in history, will ravage the undeveloped nations.”
"I forecast a specific date, 1975, when the new crisis will be upon us in all its awesome importance."
"By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations.""

Humans were said to be on the verge of starvation, poisoning or nuclear destruction.

"This coincides with a time when “the human species [is] about to starve itself to death,” as well as its being faced with poisoning by pollution and destruction by nuclear weapons." Watchtower 1975 May 1 p.285

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Watchtower was still promoting such expectations in 1975. During an Assembly part on February 10th, 1975 in Los Angeles, Fred Franz referred to Live Everlasting Life in Freedom of the Sons of God, saying:

"And then if we turn to page 35 we are starting to see the year nineteen hundred and seventy five, where we actually are. And, what does it say with regard to 1975? It says, the end, now notice this, the end of the six one thousand year day of man's existence in early autumn. And then it carries us beyond that, beyond this year, the next date is 2075. So you see, we haven't much left till this year 1975. It going to end at sundown of September the 5th, and that immediately after September the the 5th, why the millennial kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ must begin in order to fulfil the final thousand years of God's great seven creative days, and they're expecting the great tribulation to occur and the destruction of Babylon the Great and the annihilation of all the political systems of this world and then the binding of Satan and his demons and their abyssing to occur before this year is ended, this year nineteen hundred and seventy five, and immediately thereafter the thousand year reign of the Lord Jesus Christ to begin. Now that is all it says about the year 1975. (Audience applauses.)" Watchtower 1975 May

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters

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The May 1st, 1975 Watchtower refers to a similar speech Fred Franz delivered at the March 2nd, 1975 graduation program for Watchtower Bible School of Gilead.

"Another speaker, F. W. Franz, the Society’s vice-president, forcefully impressed on the audience the urgency of the Christian preaching work. He stressed that, according to dependable Bible chronology, 6,000 years of human history will end this coming September according to the lunar calendar. This coincides with a time when “the human species [is] about to starve itself to death,” as well as its being faced with poisoning by pollution and destruction by nuclear weapons. Franz added: “There’s no basis for believing that mankind, faced with what it now faces, can exist for the seventh thousand-year period” under the present system of things. Watchtower 1975 May 1 p.285

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"Bible chronology which indicates that Adam was created in the fall of the year 4026 B.C.E. would bring us down to the year 1975 C.E. as the date marking 6,000 years of human history with yet 1,000 years to come for Christ's Kingdom rule. So whatever the date for the end of this system, it is clear that the time left is reduced, with only approximately six years left until the end of 6,000 years of human history." Watchtower 1970 May 1 p.273

In the Awake! 1971 October 8, a timeline was presented with the caption "As we near the end of 6,000 years of human history in the mid-1970's there is the thrilling hope of a grand relief." In the timeline the "Millennial reign of Jesus Christ" starts on the six thousandth year.

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters

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"And now, as the year 1975 opens up, some thousands of the anointed remnant, still alive on this earth, look ahead to realizing that joyful prospect. The increasing "great crowd" of their sheeplike companions look forward with them to entering the New Order without interruption of life. In the New Order Jehovah God will add to the "length of days" of the anointed remnant on earth to the point of satisfying the members thereof. It remains to be seen whether they will be yet retained here on earth to see the start of the resurrection of the earthly dead and to meet faithful witnesses of ancient, pre-Christian times. They would enjoy that, before being taken off the earthly scene to the heavenly reward with Christ." Watchtower 1974 Dec 15 p.766

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters

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"Many schools now have student counselors who encourage one to pursue higher education after high school, to pursue a career with a future in this system of things. Do not be influenced by them. Do not let them "brainwash" you with the Devil's propaganda to get ahead, to make something of yourself in this world. This world has very little time left! Any "future" this world offers is no future! Wisely, then, let God's Word influence you in selecting a course that will result in your protection and blessing. Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry, with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service your goal. This is a life that offers an everlasting future!" Watchtower 1969 Mar 15 p.171

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

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"Do we know that the seventh year from now will conclude the 6,000th year since Adam was created? And if we live to that year 1975, what should we expect to happen?" Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.488

"WHAT about all this talk concerning the year 1975? Lively discussions, some based on speculation, have burst into flame during recent months among serious students of the Bible. Their interest has been kindled by the belief that 1975 will mark the end of 6,000 years of human history since Adam's creation. The nearness of such an important date indeed fires the imagination and presents unlimited possibilities for discussion.
2 But wait! How do we know their calculations are correct? What basis is there for saying Adam was created nearly 5,993 years ago? Does the one Book that can be implicitly trusted for its truthful historical accuracy, namely, the Inspired Word of Jehovah, the Holy Bible, give support and credence to such a conclusion?

35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man's existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows , neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the "day and hour"!

36 Even if one cannot see beyond 1975, is this any reason to be less active? The apostles could not see even this far; they knew nothing about 1975. All they could see was a short time ahead in which to finish the work assigned to them." Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.494 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?

"Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth.

It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative “day.” Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the “sixth day,” which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or “day” ended, and how long Adam lived into the “seventh day.” And yet the end of that sixth creative “day” could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years." Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.499

"The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God." Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.13

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"Well now, as Jehovah's Witnesses, as runners, even though some of us have become a little weary, it almost seems as though Jehovah has provided meat in due season. Because he's held up before all of us, a new goal. A new year. Something to reach out for and it just seems it has given all of us so much more energy and power in this final burst of speed to the finish line. And that's the year 1975. Well, we don't have to guess what the year 1975 means if we read the Watchtower. And don't wait 'till 1975. The door is going to be shut before then. As one brother put it, "Stay alive to Seventy-Five""

In November 1968, District Overseer Duggan announced at the Pampa Texas Assembly that "not really a full 83 months remains, so lets be faithful and confident and … we will be alive beyond the war of Armageddon…," which therefore slated Armageddon by October 1975.

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Similar comments flowed through the Watchtower during the late nineteen sixties, showing that the concept Armageddon would arrive in 1975 was encouraged, with terms such as "there is only 6 years left" used as a count down to the end.

"Just think, brothers, there are only about ninety months left before 6,000 years of man's existence on earth is completed. Do you remember what we learned at the assemblies last summer? The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those that are destroyed then." Kingdom Ministry 1968 Mar p.4

"The immediate future is certain to be filled with climactic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these "last days" will undergo fulfilment." Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.272

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Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)

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"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end"." Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20

"It did not take the brothers very long to find the chart beginning on page 31, showing that 6,000 years of man's existence end in 1975.
Discussion of 1975 overshadowed about everything else. "The new book compels us to realize that Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed," said a conventioner. Surely it was one of the outstanding blessings to be carried home!" .. Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah's witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don't any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that." Watchtower 1966 Oct 15 pp.629,631

In 1967, Watchtower wrote that "sudden death" was "only a few short years ahead of us" and to come within the generation that had seen both world wars.

"the danger of sudden death is staring you in the face. ... That is exactly the case with the warning that we speak of here, and there are reasons why it can truly be said to be the most urgent warning ever given. ... It is to come within the generation that has already seen two world wars and it is only a few short years ahead of us." Watchtower 1967 Apr 15 pp.243-244

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The 2017 Regional Convention video "Don't Give Up," whilst careful not to mention 1975, refers to it when saying:

"I never thought this system would last so long, and I certainly never thought I would be a grandfather. ... when I was about your age, I had just become a new father. ... years later another test came our way, you see, back then some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things."

There can be no denying the sensational results of the 1975 teaching when comparing the conversion rate of Bible Studies prior to and after 1975. In 1974 a high of over 1 in 5 Bible studies progressed to baptism, compared with just 1 in 30 since the year 2000.

1975 Watchtower Quotes

The idea that 1975 would culminate in the end of the world was introduced in 1966.

"The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E. According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence." Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30

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1975 - Watchtower Quotes

From 1966 to 1975, the Watchtower regularly implied that Armageddon would arrive in 1975. However, ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses about this date and they will invariably deny there ever being such statements. The following exhaustive list of quotes show Watchtower left little to the imagination regarding 1975.

In 1980, Watchtower admitted "considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975" from information printed in its publications.

"With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. ... Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility." Watchtower 1980 Mar 15 p.17

Regular implications that 1975 would bring Armageddon resulted in many Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believing this was going to be the end.

The growth rate of publishers before and after 1975 proves the significance of 1975 for Jehovah's Witnesses and the affect of Armageddon's failure to eventuate at that time.

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The "marked decrease" in Jehovah's Witnesses occurred in countries all around the world.

"Korea
... However, the first few months of the 1976 service year began with a marked decrease in publishers and home Bible studies. This downward trend was to continue for over three years, bottoming out in a 26-percent decrease in publishers, from 32,693 in August 1975 to 24,285 in November 1978... The Society's letter of April 4, 1977, stated: "We hope the brothers are careful in their teaching. Evidently some were very strong on the 1975 date, and so a good foundation was not laid."" 1988 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses pp.189-190

"Norway
... There was a steady increase in publishers from the mid-1960's till the mid-1970's. But expectations regarding the year 1975 proved to be a test of faith for some brothers. When the great tribulation did not come in 1975, a few left the organization; and between 1976 and 1980, there was a slight decrease in publishers." 2012 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses pp.142-143

"Philippines
... However, there were many who stopped serving Jehovah when the present system of things did not end in 1975." 2003 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses pp.162-163

This happened because Armageddon's arrival around 1975 was used to recruit followers.

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Following the failure of 1925, almost all of Russell's time prophecy predictions were discarded by Rutherford. Furthermore, it was stated that between 1918 and 1919 Jesus cleansed the Watchtower Society, in effect implying that the time of Russell was one of uncleanness, and it was under Rutherford that Jesus chose the Organization as his sole provision for salvation. Rutherford distanced his followers from other Christians by stating most of Christendom's symbols and holidays were pagan. Use of the word Jehovah began to be emphasised (see God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached p.288; Proclaimers p.152), leading to the name change of Watchtower followers from Bible Students to Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931.

Finally, in 1935 the great crowd was moved from heaven to earth, to become the sole survivors of Armageddon. These changes made it simple to introduce a concept of "narrow salvation," the concept that only a handful of the world were deserving salvation. Conveniently, survivors now had to belong to one earthly Organization, the Watchtower Society. God was prepared to kill billions of people, most that have never even heard of the Watchtower Organization.

The Bible explains that Jesus Ransom was for all mankind, even the ungodly.

Romans 5:6 "For, indeed, Christ, while we were yet weak, died for ungodly men at the appointed time …"

2 Corinthians 5:14 "For the love the Christ has compels us, because this is what we have judged, that one man died for all …"

Rutherford's post 1925 belief structure removed the value of Jesus sacrifice from "all mankind" and placed his followers alone amongst the living as worthy of its benefits. This unfortunate view eliminates most of the value of Jesus sacrifice for those alive at Armageddon and paints a cruel and unjust God. This viewpoint cannot be justified by reason or Scripture, yet is common amongst fundamentalist religious groups, due to being an effective way to encourage membership and prevent defection.

"Millions now living will never die" had its first failure in 1925 when the earthly return of Abraham failed to materialise. Time has proven this prophecy false beyond doubt. In 2017 there were less than one million people still alive that were on earth when Rutherford made his bold statement, with an estimate of only 450,000 centenarians throughout the earth.

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Do You Have The True Jesus

below is a image/idol of the so called Jehovah's witnesses jesus

false jw's:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Emusan:
The issue you are having is thinking there is ANYTHING in this physical world that can be used to DESCRIBED who God is.

You're the one who came up with that Amorphous thing which means "without a definite SHAPE or FORM" but now still asking if God is FORMLESS OR INDISTINCT.

So what is your point exactly?



Smile......

Holy Spirit who among all of them have the word SPIRIT to His name is not a PERSON just because you're brainwashed with that.

Not when the scripture gave every description of Holy Spirit exactly as how A PERSON SHOULD BE OR IDENTIFIED.

So what makes Angels PERSON that Holy Spirit didn't possess?

Don't dodge my question oooo

it's funny, according to girlie aemmy:
God is a spirit, a being
Angels are spirits, are beings
Jesus is a spirit, a being
but the Holy Spirit (Who fellowships with believers) is not a being, (is not a fellow)

God is Spirit, yet false jw says; "God's Spirit (Holy Spirit)" is not a being

they are queer as can be

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Rutherford's Defining Prophecy

The 1925 teaching seems to have originated between 1914 and 1916, whilst Russell was still living, but without his consent. In 1916 the Watch Tower quoted a letter asking;

DEARLY BELOVED PASTOR:… A sister recently arrived from --- tells us that the Class there are teaching that the church must not expect to be glorified until 1925, and that this is your thought;…" Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

Russell replied;

"Our kindest thought must be that they are not giving much head to its teachings. Otherwise they would know from its columns that we are not looking forward to 1925, nor to any other date." Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

Shortly after Russell's death, Rutherford introduced 1925 as doctrine. Whether this originated with Rutherford of some other person, this became Rutherford's defining prophecy, as he used it to rebuild Watchtower membership after the failure and disappointment of 1914. However, it was the failure of 1925 that resulted in even more important consequences for today, as it led to Rutherford embarking on a dramatic overhaul of Watchtower doctrine, and distancing his followers from Russell.

Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mental Health: carm dot org


Please understand that this article is not meant as a put-down of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I am simply displaying research information that raises serious questions about the Watchtower Organization.

It has always been a belief of mine that cult groups put an excessive burden of legalism upon their adherents–this is because they do not have a proper understanding of grace due to their lack of understanding of who God is and what He has done for us. Often these aberrant groups require substantial commitments of time and energy from their membership in order to maintain good standing in the group. Since cults are typically short on grace and long on law (mixed with group obligations, guilt-inducing teachings, and isolationism), I have always assumed that this unnecessary difficulty would lead to emotional and mental problems.

A few years ago, I heard of an article in a mental health journal that documented the population percentages of Jehovah’s Witnesses in mental wards. It took some effort, but I found it. Following are excerpts from that article. Judge for yourself if the Jehovah’s Witness organization contributed to the demise of some of its members.

(The following quotes are taken from the British Journal of Psychiatry: the Journal of Mental Science. Published by authority of The Royal College of Psychiatrists, Vol. 126, Ashford, Kent, Headley Brothers LTD, 1975. The author is John Spencer.)

“During the period of 36 months from January 1971 to December 1973, there were 7,546 inpatient admissions to the West Australian Mental Health Service Psychiatric Hospitals. Of these 50 were reported to be active members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses movement” (p. 557).

“Of the 50 admitted 22 were diagnosed as schizophrenic, 17 as paranoid schizophrenic, 10 as neurotic and one as an alcoholic” (p. 557-58).

“From the figures gathered in the Table, it is clear that members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses movement are over-represented in admissions to the Mental Health Services of this State. Furthermore, it is clear from the Table that the incidence of schizophrenia amongst them is about three times as high as for the rest of the general population, while the figure for paranoid schizophrenia is nearly four times that of the general population” (p. 558).

“The study does not shed light on the question of symptom or defense mechanism but suggests that either the Jehovah’s Witnesses sect tends to attract an excess of pre-psychotic individuals who may then break down, or else being a Jehovah’s Witness is itself stress which may precipitate a psychosis” (p. 558).

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

When mentioning the title of the 1918 lectures, a 2010 Watchtower uses the word "may" instead of "will", despite including a scanned image of a newspaper advertisement that used the word "will" in the title.

"The anointed followers of Christ have been extending the invitation since as far back as 1918. In that year, the public talk entitled “Millions Now Living May Never Die” offered hope that many will gain life in a paradise earth after the battle of Armageddon." Watchtower 2010 Feb 15 pp.15-16

Using the word "may" deceptively covers over the absolute conviction Rutherford was implanting in his followers that the new system would arrive in 1925.

a good reason for disrespecting so called Jehovahs witnesses is that they are false prophets and false date setters
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Moses warned against those that make predictions in the name of Jehovah that do not come true.

"And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak..." Deuteronomy 18:20-22

The Watchtower says that the standard by which to judge a false messenger is whether their messages "come true."

"Jehovah is the Grand identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers." Watchtower 1997 May 1 p.8

Ironic, considering the Watchtower specifically said the end would come in 1914 and then 1925. This section demonstrated over 20 "messages" promoted by the Watchtower for decades that turned out not to be "true." What does this prove about them as messengers and prophets ?

MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't want JWs to comment on Nairaland so i keep teasing him to type more!

oh duh, so dum and lost false jw mad max

whenever i post one of my almost daily articles
you very soon post one of your very dum and much repeated nonsense quotes
such as:

MaxInDHouse: The year 1914!

MaxInDHouse: Thread for the wise!

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

Aemmyjah:
You're activating one head slamming bot to repeat one long article and another bot (or himself) like the comment

lost false jw aemmy

quote the one long article i'm repeating.
i haven't gotten through posting all the articles just once yet,
but when i do then i will start repeating them, oh confused and queer one:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Aemmyjah:
You're activating one head slamming bot to repeat one long article and another bot (or himself) like the comment

MaxInDHouse: He doesn't want JWs to comment on Nairaland so i keep teasing him to type more!

lost false jw aemmy and lost false jw mad max

you girlies can never stop making up lies in your heads, it's your natural way of speaking, of course
as it is the devil's:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1Co_6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1Co 6:10  nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.