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easymancfc:
I have two questions..
You said petros means stone??.. If I go to the Greek of scripture.. will I see petros for every time stone is mentioned

2. Peter was also called Kephas?? see John 1:42.. does Kephas also means stone..

Thank you..

i don't know why you want to be confused over the names peter and cephas
and over the definitions of rock and stone
when it's clear from the Bible that "Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God" is the rock that His Church is built on

for those with eyes to see, it's very clear that Jesus Christ Church is built on the rock, the truth that:
"Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God"


(Mat 16:15)  He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

(Mat 16:16)  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

(Mat 16:17)  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

(Mat 16:18)  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



the rock is: "Jesus" and Jesus is the Truth
the rock, truth is: "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God"


1Co_10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Joh_14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


the rock that followed them was Jesus Christ, the truth

Jesus Christ the truth, is that rock


what is the truth that Jesus church is built on: "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God"

uben, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:

THE POPE

The Pope is called "Our Holy Father". See encyclical letter of Pope Leo XIII in the Douay Version of the Bible. He is also called "Our Most Holy Lord", Pope Pius X. See Cardinals Oath. Moreri, a famous historian said, "To make war against the Pope is to make war against God, seeing the Pope is God and God is the Pope". Decius said, "The Pope can do all things God can do". Pope Leo XIII said of himself, "The supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God himself." Pope Pius X said, "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ himself hidden under the veil of the flesh. Does the Pope speak? It is Jesus Christ who speaks." Pope Pius XI once declared, "You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth." All this is blasphemy!
Isaias 44:8 Is there a God besides me?
Matthew 23:9 Call no one on earthyour father.
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord.
Philippians 2:11 Jesus Christ is inthe glory of God the Father.
I Peter 5:3 Nor yet as lording it over your charges.
I Peter 5:1-4 I, your fellow-presbyter.

Peter called himself a presbyter (pastor), not a pope. He refused honor (Acts 10:25,26) saying "Stand up for I myself also am a man". The apostles argued regarding who was greatest in the kingdom (Matthew 18:1) which indicates that even they did not accept Peter as head of the Church. The wealth and power of the Roman Popes could have come to Peter or any of the apostles. They had charisma, they could heal and raise the dead and perform many other miracles. They could have accumulated gold and land and conquering armies, but they gave away all that was placed at their feet (Acts 4:37, 3:6). They rejoiced that they were counted worthy to suffer for the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 5:41). How could anyone be so naive as to think that the papacy evolved out of such humility and simplicity. The office of Pope is of pagan origin and cannot in any way be substantiated in Scripture. Because of the work and ministry of the Holy Spirit, such an office is not necessary or even desirable.

@bold, rc's would believe anything their church told them

Ubenedictus:
[The spiritual man] shall also judge those who give rise
to schisms, who are destitute of the love of God, and
who look to their own special advantage rather than to
the unity of the Church; and who for trifling reasons, or
any kind of reason which occurs to them, cut in pieces
and divide the great and glorious body of Christ, and so
far as in them lies, destroy it — men who prate of peace
while they give rise to war, and do in truth strain out a
gnat, but swallow a camel. For they can bring about no
"reformation" of enough importance to compensate for
the evil arising from their schism. . . . True knowledge is



that which consists in the doctrine of the apostles, and
the ancient constitution of the Church throughout all the
world, and the distinctive manifestation of the body of
Christ according to the successions of the bishops, by
which they have handed down that Church which exists
in every place [i.e., the Catholic Church] (ibid., 4:33:7-.



AD 189

Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to
an adulteress [a schismatic church] is separated from
the promises of the Church, nor will he that forsakes the
Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is an
alien, a worldling, and an enemy. He cannot have God for
his Father who has not the Church for his mother (The
Unity of the Catholic Church 6, 1st ed. [A.D. 251 ]).

so if as you claim the Catholic church didn't exist before AD300 what church was origen talking about above?

i don't personally care when the rcc was formed
it was seperate from the true church that is for sure

the true church never taugh mary worship and having idols etc. etc. etc.

Ubenedictus:
John 6:55
For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.



Luke. 22:19

And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and
gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for
you; do this in remembrance of me."


argue with Christ.



some Protestants are just faithless.

Jesus himself took bread and said it is his body, the same body which he give for us, Jesus said it but modern day Protestant say no, it is a lie it is not the body given up for up it is only a symbol. it is just faithlessness.


Are you even aware that the heresy you believe about the Eucharist is a 16th invention by a man called John Calvin? so for 1600years no Christian ever taught that the Eucharist is symbolic but you just follow and end time doctrine, a doctrine of a man in the 16th century?

sorry for you, even the Bible prophesied it, end time Church, end time doctrine, end time Christian.


sorry, I will accept the words of Christ, and the historic witness of all Christian for 2000years over the invention and heresy of a man called John Calvin and his followers.

ha ha you haven't a clue about understanding God's word, and of course you cannot:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



truly a priest - disciple of satan cannot turn bread into the flesh of Christ
truly a priest - disciple of satan cannot turn wine into the blood of Jesus

satan of course would like to deceive you, and he does big time

Ubenedictus:
now you are lying against the Catholic church. well done

the matter of subject is "the rcc saying works along with faith is needed for salvation"

and of course yet again you twist and lie trying to change the subject to:

"that it is God who does the good works in a saved Christian" which even rc believe



you couldn't answer the first so you changed it to something else.
you uben are such liar and deceiver, of course

Ubenedictus:
go and make your own new testament, stop using the one Satan's Church compiled

christians do use their own bibles, and not the mix of inspired and uninspired books of the rc bible
@bold, you have said the truth for once

uben, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:


THE TRUE CHURCH

The Roman Catholic Church claims to be God's true Church and all members are to promise obedience to the Bishop of Rome, whom she claims is successor to Saint Peter, Prince of the Apostles and Vicar of Jesus Christ.

The Roman Catholic Church is built on the assumption that in Matthew 16:13-19 Jesus appointed Peter the first pope and so founded His Church and established the papacy. If this is true, then all true Christians must become Catholic. If it is false, the whole Catholic religion is false and cultic and no true Christians could be identified with such a system. We must, then, search the Scriptures in order to know what is true. The Scriptures are not merely the writings of men, “But holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit” (II Peter 1:21). “All Scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproving, for correcting, for instructing in justice; that the man of God may be perfect, equipped for every good work: (II Timothy 3:16-17). “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words (the Bible) shall not pass away” (Matthew 24:35). Both Scripture and history testify to the authenticity, reliability, efficiency, and sufficiency of the Bible. Though some Catholic translations are better than others, all are reliable enough for general study with Catholics.

When Jesus, in Matthew 16:18, said, "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" He used the demonstrative "this" (taute), pointing to Peter's confession, "Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God" as the rock. Jesus said, "Thou are Peter (petros, a stone - all believers are stones, see I Peter 2:5 and Ephesians 2:21), and upon this rock (petra, a huge rock foundation - the confession that Jesus is the Christ), I will build my church". He did not promise to build His Church upon Peter. Jesus would not have trusted such a precious possession as His Church to the leadership of even one fallible man much less a whole succession of them. The pope of Rome is called the Vicar of the Son of God (Vicarius Filii Dei). In the Bible we find that the Holy Spirit, not a pope, was sent to take the place of Jesus on earth. That is what Vicar means. The Holy Spirit was given to guide us into all truth (John 16:7-15) and the Scriptures were given for teaching, for reproving, for correction, and for instruction (II Timothy 3:16). Christ did not leave His Church to human leadership. Jesus Himself is still the Head of His Church. He speaks to us through His infallible Word, the Holy Scriptures, by His ever present and infallible Holy Spirit.

Let us remember that Christ is the Rock and only Head of the Church. I Corinthians 3:11. For other foundation no one can lay, but that which has been laid, which is Christ Jesus.
I Corinthians 10:4. The rock was Christ.
Ephesians 1:22,23. Head over all the Church.
Ephesians 2:20. Christ Jesus... the chief corner stone.

Around thirty-four times in the Old Testament God is call a Rock or the Rock of Israel. You see, the Bible clearly teaches that when Jesus founded His Church, He was to be the only Head, the Holy Spirit the Vicar and Guide, and the Bible the only authority for faith and practice. All true Christians constitute THE TRUE CHURCH (those in whom the Holy Spirit dwells, who believe and obey Christ's teachings). True believers were called "Christians", not "Catholics".
Acts 11:26 Disciples were first called Christians.
Acts 26:28 Persuade me to become a Christian.
I Peter 4:16 Suffer as a Christian

There were no Roman Catholics until Christianity was merged with paganism into a state religion around 315 A.D. The true Christians obeyed God's Word, they never joined in the pagan corruption. The gates of hell have never prevailed against the true believers, they are few, their way is narrow, they would rather suffer martyrdom than compromise the Word of God or deny their Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. "Go out from her, my people, that you may not share in her sins, and that you may not receive of her plagues" (Apocalypse 18:4). Believers must not be identified with compromising or counterfeit Churches!

mtc dot org

Ubenedictus:
he took bread and said that is his body. go and argue with him

uben, u don't know the diffrence between literal and figurative
a child would know, but not if he is rc, u r so blinded by satan your god

and how could a God hater, Bible hater, like u and rc's know God and His word
you wouldn't know God if your life depended on it, and it does

truly uben, when you take communion u r not swallowing Jesus flesh
just a dry wafer of bread

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Does the Roman Catholic
Church deny the Jesus of the Bible?

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The answer is absolutely yes!
Just read the previous posts and pages

uben, more lies of yours and satans church:


Delusion in Biblical Christianity

Even though the Catholic Church agrees with the basic Biblical doctrines of the trinity, they deny it by adding to it with their own traditions. We covered the two teachings about Jesus which are most foreign to the Bible (the person of Jesus- the bread and wine, and the work of Jesus-the savior and mediator). We have also covered only part of their works of salvation. Because Biblical Christians are generally not familiar with all of the strange teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, they many times claim that “there are many true Christians within the Roman Catholic Church.” The problem with this argument is that most Biblical Christians have not asked their friends the right questions. Without some knowledge of the Roman Catholic teachings, Christians have little chance of asking intelligent and discerning questions and thereby getting the whole truth. Like Mormonism, Catholicism sounds like Biblical Christianity on the surface. Like Mormonism, without in-depth investigative questions, it is impossible to see the whole picture. Only when we ask scrutinizing penetrating question do we learn the real truth. Next time you encounter a Roman Catholic ask him, “Can you eat your Jesus?” or “Can your Jesus mold?”. The answer you receive will be as different as these questions are.

The following quotes from some famous leaders show that even our leaders can become deceived if they aren’t asking the proper questions: “It’s time for Protestants to go to the shepherd (the Pope) and say, ’What do we have to do to come home?’” Robert Schuller (Los Angeles Herald Examiner, September 19, 1987, Religion page); “I’ve found that my beliefs are essentially the same as those of orthodox Roman Catholics.” Billy Graham (McCall’s, January 1978). We as Biblical Christians need to expose and refute any false doctrine which creeps into the body of Christ. (Eph. 5:11, Titus 1:9, Jude 3). You might say, “How can I tell what is true Biblical Christianity? There are two questions that summarize the essentials of Biblical Christianity:

The Two Biblical Laws of Christianity
Law 1.. Who is God? .........
Law 2.. How are we saved?

Law #1: The Identity of God

Christology is the study of who Jesus is and what he has done. These two concepts are essential to establishing the true identity of the real Jesus. The first concept is his person (his nature and character). If you redefine who Jesus is then you have defined a false Jesus. The second concept is his work. If you redefine what he has done or is doing now, then you have defined a different Jesus. At what point would you acknowledge a phony Jesus? If I deny that he died on a cross, claim he didn’t raise from the dead, say he wasn’t born of a virgin, and didn’t pick any apostles; how many things he has done do I need to deny before you tell me that I redefined Jesus and no longer have the truth? Where do you draw the line? The Bible says, Jesus “by himself, purged our sins” and “sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.” (Hebrews 1:3). In Matthew chapter 16, Jesus asked:

“Whom do you say that I am?”

Law #2: God’s Method of Salvation

We are saved by Grace, through faith alone (Eph. 2:8-10). God’s salvation is free. There is no way that anyone can earn it or become worthy of it. Catholicism has Jesus as a sacred victim on their altar, and his work is not all done by himself.

mtc dot org

Ubenedictus:
hehehe there were over 100 different books used in church then, please tell me how you will figure which one is correct if not for the Catholic church.



if you dislike the Catholic church as you claim and consider it to be satanic, go and chose your own books and make your own Bible.


if the church is satanic as you say then the Bible she compiled and preserved is satanic too, either you go collect your own books and make your own new testament or keep shut

duh uben, you are twisting - lying again

no, the books of the Bible are not satanic, like the rcc is satanic,

you see, the books of the Bible were written by God inspired prophets,
and of course the rcc didn't write any of them

the rcc put some scriptures together into one book, some were inspired,
and some are considered by Christians not to be, and of course Christians don't use the roman catholic bible,
only satans church does

what satan does is, he mixes truth with lies to gain disciples,
it works for him, he has over a billion disciples in the rcc alone

Ubenedictus:
did the Catholic church teach that it isn't God who does the good work in us or are you just arguing with yourself?


enjoy
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm

duh uben you are twisting - lying again

the issue is the rcc saying works along with faith is needed for salvation,
not that it is God who does the good works in a saved Christian, oh lying one

Ubenedictus:
Jesus said This is my body, this is my blood. you can go and argue with him and tell him he was mistaken it is only symbolic

ha ha, you think the bread and wine Jesus fed His apostles was literally Jesus flesh and blood

u no understand the Bible, but how could a Bible hater understand it,
did you see where you hate God too, God even said so, and of course if you hate His word then you hate Him:

Exo_20:5  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Ubenedictus:
please where does the Bible say those are symbol ? or you just assumed it

ha ha, since Jesus didn't literally give His body and blood to the Apostles to eat and drink,
then the words "body and blood" are used symbolically as explained in the very short and
very easy to understand article



not so easy for the blinded though:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

uben, you go on and on about the rcc playing a part in putting the books of the Bible together into one book
and yet you and satans church don't believe much of it, the Bible,
just read back at all of the verses i have posted against your phony doctrines,
you don't believe any of those Bible verses,

one example of your not believing the Bible:

your satans church says: "salvation comes through faith plus works etc."

God's word the Bible says: "salvation is by faith alone, not by works, so that no one can take credit,
it is a gift of God"



uben, you and satans church don't believe the Bible that you go on and on about having compiled


(Eph 2:8]  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(Eph 2:9)  Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(Eph 2:10)  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

see how Christians are saved through faith
see how salvation is not of ourselves, but a gift of God
see how salvation is not of works
see how once we are saved God has us walk in good works

see how you don't believe the Bible uben
see how you lie uben

uben, you rc's would believe anything your church tells you,
more lies of yours and satans church:

A False Priesthood

“The primary ministry of a priest is to consecrate and offer the Holy Eucharist (bread and wine), and to forgive sins.” (Q&A, # 1488). “The Sacrifice of the Cross is continued on earth through the Sacrifice of the Mass...It is the Sacrifice in which Christ is offered under the species of bread and wine in an unbloody manner.” (CCC # 1367). The Roman Catholic Church teaches that eating the body and blood of Jesus Christ makes one holier. In the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ is offered over and over again as a victim of an unbloody holy sacrifice. So the question is, when the priest blesses the wine, does it turn into Christ’s real blood or is it unbloody? (Hebrews 9:22) The Catholic Church has invented a priesthood which supposedly performs a miracle every time the priest blesses the bread and wine (turning them into flesh and blood). If this is true, why are Catholic priests so helpless to perform any other miracles?

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a person must confess to a priest privately and the priest himself forgives sins. He is then told then by the priest what suffering (penance) he must do (usually prayers) to make up for his sins. “Penance is the sacrament instituted by Christ in which sinners are reconciled with God through the absolution of the Priest.” (Q&A #1321). “If anyone denieth...that sacramental confession...is necessary to salvation,...or saith that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone,...is alien from the institution and command of Christ, and is a human invention; let him be anathema.” (Council of Trent, Canon VI “On the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance”). Hebrews chapters 7 to 10, discusses Jesus’ true priesthood. Catholic priests supposedly have authority to forgive sins; however, only God can truly forgive sins. The Roman Catholic Priesthood denies and replaces Jesus’ true Biblical priesthood.

Ubenedictus:
please where does the Bible say those are symbol ? or you just assumed it

ha ha read the rest of the post
they are definately not flesh and blood

Ubenedictus:
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so
faith without works is dead also.

oh duh again uben, that's because once a person is saved through faith
then God does good works in us, and just like the faith was God given
so it is that God does the works in us, we can take no credit at all for salvation

when i say "we" i am definately not referring to you, but to other Christians.

Ubenedictus:
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oh, you want to explain how God used a Satan organization to set the canon of scriptures, to preserve and translate it.

please which is harder to believe,

a. the holy Bible came from Satan's organization.
b. the church of Christ set the canon, translated and preserved the Bible.



now let me see those Protestant mental gymnastics

duh uben, none of the writers of the Bible, Moses Matthew etc. etc. etc. were part of satans rc church
and who cares if the rcc put all of those books into one book, so have very many others, duh uben.

bb, more lies of yours and satans church

Save Me, Holy Mother!

The Catholic Church gives an elevated position to the Virgin Mary, calling her “Queen of Heaven” because she rules over the Church with Jesus Christ (Catechism of the Catholic Church Par. #996). They also say that she is “The All Holy One. She is the model and source of holiness” (CCC # 2677). Mary had to be willing to give her consent to be pregnant with Jesus or there would be no salvation (CCC #2030). Mary is considered to be co-redeemer with Jesus which means that she also is our savior. Catholics believe that Mary’s prayers and good works redeem us (CCC #1477). Even though the Bible says that Jesus is our only mediator between God and man (1 Tim. 2:5), the Catholic Church teaches that Mary is our mediator (mediatrix) and co-redeemer (co-redemptrix) with Christ and that no grace can be applied to man except through her (CCC #969). They also say that she has “saving office...to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation” (Documents of Vatican Council II Vol. 1 p. 418). The Catholic Church does not discourage their members from venerating Mary “higher than all other women and all other humans.” Rosaries are used by Catholics as a tool to help them to pray to Mary (and God the Father). All over the world, Catholics are worshipping Mary with the Pope’s full knowledge. If this were happening in Biblical Christian Churches, these people would be excommunicated for false worship.

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Photo of JPII thanking statue of Mary

The Pope himself thanked Mary for saving his life (Time, Dec. 30, 1991 p. 69). Instead of excommunicating Mary worshipers, they have as part of the church, a “liturgical cult of the Blessed Virgin,...” (Vatican Council II No. 28 VIII #66, 67 - Flannery). Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said of Jesus, “There is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). By praying to Mary and considering her a co-savior and co-mediator, the Catholic Church puts Mary on a similar level with Jesus. Thus they deny Jesus his rightful place as our only mediator, savior, and redeemer by placing part of his work with someone else.

blackbriar:
not until you tel me what Baptism is.

duh, are you a nine year old girl?

bb, more lies of yours and satans church

Catholicism defines a False Mother

Because the Roman Catholic Church considers sex as something somewhat unholy, they have elevated celibacy and demoted sex in marriage. Although they teach that Jesus was born of the virgin Mary, the Church has redefined who she is.. The Catholic Church says that the virgin Mary did not inherit original sin from her human parents like all other descendants of Adam and Eve. They say that the virgin Mary’s mother and father did not pass on sinfulness to their daughter. What they call the “immaculate conception” refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. This is a direct contradiction of scripture (Romans 3:23, 3:10). Mary herself recognized her need for a Savior (Luke 1:47). Why would Mary need to be saved if she wasn’t a sinner? Catholicism also redefines Mary’s life by claiming that her sinless body and soul were taken up to heaven without dying (assumption). The virgin Mary is also said to have been a virgin her entire life, even though the Bible says that Joseph never knew her until after she gave birth (Matt. 1:25). The Bible says that Jesus’ Mother and brothers came to see him. The people of his own town said “Who does he think he is? Isn’t he the son of Joseph, and aren’t his sisters with us?”(Matt. 13 :54-56, Mark 6:1-3). The book of James starts, “James the Lord’s Brother...” The Catholic Church denies Jesus’ mother by redefining her as being born like Jesus without original sin. This make the Catholic Jesus born of a phony mother.

blackbriar:
you are avoiding the question......

ha ha, tell me what you know about baptism
it must be something fantastic

blackbriar:
SIMPLE QUESTION,WHAT IS BAPTISM?

as you should know by now i point out yours and rcc lies
i don't give lessons to satans church

i did tell you some of your churches lies on baptism

now feel free to tell me what you say baptism is and i'm sure i will exdpose yet more of your lies

Jesus’ Body and Blood

Jesus said when he broke the bread that “this is my body which is given for you, do this in remembrance of me.” After the meal, he took the cup (of wine) and said, “this cup is the new testament in my blood” (Luke 22:19 & 20). As often as we do this, we proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes again. These are symbols of his body and blood just as when he said, “I am the door.” His body was not really made of wood with hinges and a latch. In the same way, the Passover feast was symbolic of the first Passover feast in Egypt where the blood of the Lambs saved the first-born of the Jews in bondage in Egypt. The bread and wine are symbols of Jesus, our Passover Lamb.

However, the Catholic Church says that the bread is actually the real body of Jesus. After the priest blesses the bread (wafer), he raises it up before the congregation and says, “Behold, the lamb of God”. When he gives it to the members he says, “The body of Christ.” Catholicism teaches that “the Eucharist is a sacrament which really, truly, and substantially contains the body and blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ under the appearances of bread and wine. It is the great sacrament of God’s love in which Christ is eaten, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge is given to us of future glory.” (Question & Answer Catholic Catechism #1214). “The Eucharist is necessary for salvation.” (Q&A Catechism, #1217).

True Catholics believe that when you eat the bread and drink the wine you are actually eating Jesus’ flesh and drinking his blood, even though it tastes like bread and wine. The Roman Catholic Church uses the word “transubstantiation,” which refers to the communion bread and wine turning into the actual flesh and blood of Jesus when blessed by the Catholic Father (Q&A, #1224). “Christ is present in the Eucharist not only with everything that makes him a man, but with all that makes him this human being. He is therefore present with all his physical properties, hands and feet and head and human heart. He is present with his human soul, with his thoughts, desires, and human affections.” (Q&A, #1223). The Roman Catholic Church proclaims that its members are literally eating their Jesus.

Because of this false interpretation of the scriptures, the Catholic Church is encouraging false, idol worship of these inanimate objects. The Roman Catholic Church sets up inanimate objects (the bread and wine) as objects of worship and adoration. Because they worship and adore these objects they qualify as idols. Since Jesus said, “I am the door,” and “I am the true vine,” this most holy Catholic sacrament is the same as worshipping a door or a vine as if it were Jesus himself.

The Jesus of the Roman Catholic Church is a dead victim (an idol) who is sacrificed on their altar and eaten by true Catholics at masses world wide. Thus, Jesus’ work of salvation was not finished on the cross, but is an ongoing work of sacrifice on their altars. The Jesus of the Bible declared his work of atonement to be completed on the cross: “It is Finished!” (John 19:30). Jesus gave his life as a sacrifice for sins, offering his body once for all (Hebrews 10:10-12). The real Jesus is no longer hanging dead on the cross but was resurrected from death to life. Because he has eternal life, he can never be sacrificed or die again (Romans 6:9-10). The real Jesus can not be eaten. Because the Roman Catholic Church is eating their Jesus, they have identified and are following a phony Jesus.

blackbriar:
please what is baptism and at this point i have to ask are you even a christian?

as before, all you have is garbage to say

i will tell you what baptism isn't,
it isn't the sprinkling of water on the forehead of a baby
who knows nothing about what is going on, and knows nothing about repentance and faith

nearly everything about the rcc is fake and goes against God's word,
satanic is what it is

i certainly am a Christian, that is why i believe God's word-the Bible,
you certainly are not a Christian, you worship deceased people and have idols of them

blackbriar:
dis your line is it what you use to keep your congregation in check?

what rubbish you talk, but then you have nothing else

blackbriar:
you never answer question...you just dey spill hate...come are you sure you are a Christian or just some dude who reads the bible to spite Christians?

bb, you call the truth hate, but i already know you do, and i have already told you that

Does the Roman Catholic
Church deny the Jesus of the Bible?

"Whom Do Ye Say That I Am?"

Jesus obviously felt it was important for his disciples to know his true identity. This is probably the most important issue in the Bible (Matthew 16:13-20). Although the Roman Catholic Church professes to believe in Jesus Christ, we will see that they actually deny most of the essentials of : A) Who he is (substance and ancestry); and B) What he has done. If anyone redefines who Jesus is or what he has done they have a different (false) Christ. For example, if I were to teach that, " Jesus was born in Japan in 1830, He killed 24 people, He even lied to many people during His lifetime, and finally died in 1902 of old age," I would be teaching a false Jesus. At the least, I would be denying his birth place, his Jewish ancestry, and his death on the cross. If I were to teach this about Jesus Christ, it would be enough to define a different (false) Jesus Christ. By definition, anyone who professes a false Christ denies the true one.

Who is the Real Rock?

Jesus himself said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me” (John 14:6). In Matt. 16:13-20, Jesus asked his disciples a very important question, “Who do you say that I am?” Jesus is asking the key question of the Bible: he is asking us to correctly identify him. This is the question that inspects the very foundation of the Christian faith. If we do not know who the real Jesus is, then we can not be saved. We can not get to the true Heaven with a false Jesus. The real Jesus of the Bible is the true foundation (rock) of the Christian faith. He is the rock of salvation. Even Peter claimed that Jesus is the rock, the cornerstone that the builders rejected (Acts 4:10 & 1 Peter 2:1-6). Paul says, “For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ... ‘the rock was Christ.’”(1 Cor. 3:11 &10:4).

The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter is the rock that the church is built on. They say that Peter is the first Pope who stands in the place of Christ. This position is known as the Vicar of Christ. This is the lineage through which the present Pope receives his authority. Today, the Pope is still the rock that the Roman Catholic Church is built on. The Roman Catholic Church declares. “...that it is altogether necessary to salvation for every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff [Pope].” (Pope Boniface VIII, 1302 AD in an ex cathedra in his Bull Unum Sanctum). Pope Pius IX said about himself, “I am the way, the truth, and the life”. By the office of the Pope, the Roman Catholic Church denies Jesus his rightful place as the foundation of the true church.

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Pope Pius IX said that "he" is the way the truth and the life,
talk about a son of satan

blackbriar:
CHAI.....na holy eucharist you dey call abomination.....kai.....mea maxima culpa.
the same holy Eucharist that Pentecostals now do.

the whole world follow satan,
the whole world is all but true Christians,
true Christians are not of the world,
you bb are, and you follow satan the devil

Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

satan is the god of this world
bb, he is the god who has blinded you:

2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

bb, satan is your father and your god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

rc's say they don't worship mary and other deceased persons
yet you yourself bb say that you build houses of worship for them

and you also build images of those persons and you bow down before them,
you pray before them, you kneel before them,
and then you say you don't have idols,
you bb and rc's are blinded as bats, and cannot stop lying:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.