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Ubenedictus:
hehehe

Ubenedictus:
hehehe....

quote uben= hehehe


i haven't seen anyone else here enjoy laughing at posts backed by God's word as much as you do

you will have your reward:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Ubenedictus:
who told you so?

the literal meaning for Jews Is more than one... how did you manage to chose one and disregard others... of course your 19th century heretic teachers told you so

you are very confused, that's what comes from not believing God's word,
read it again, and you still won't understand:

johnw74:
no uben, my meaning is correct because it's what the Bible says

truly uben, "brethren" in all the verses i posted referring to Jesus brothers is literal,
meaning His brothers

but of course you don't believe God

and uben, Jesus showed that "heathen" is certinally referring to you rc's:

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

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1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.


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Ubenedictus:
oh I saw you backing your claims with copy and paste and someone called Barnes... lol...then you end up telling us that Jesus flesh is figurative food not the real food he said it is.

of course satans disciple cannot stop lying,
i clearly never denied Jesus body is real food, but it's not physical food which you claim to eat,
oh deluded one


Joh 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

^^^ Jesus doesn't give physical meat to believers, which goes into the mouth and out the other end,
the meat that Jesus gives us endureth unto everlasting life
the communion wafer of bread that rc's eat doesn't endure forever, but rots away,
however rc's will never let go of their satanic lies, and believe God's truth

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

and of course i know these verses - God's word, means nothing at all to you uben, you don't believe them,

bad for you:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Ubenedictus:
hehehe....and through out the thread you have been contradicting both Jesus and the historic Christian faith like the young Protestant heretics you are.

uben your lies are never ending
you don't believe God, but use His word where it suits you,
and of course you understand next to nothing,
and how could you know truth, your teacher is satan via the rcc

Ubenedictus:
after claiming you guys made your own new testament.... why am I not surprised you can't prove it.

the usual Protestant package... make claims you can't back up.

again your usual repeated confusion and lies, to your false accusations already responded to
but then, your god is the father of lies, confusion and false accusations

Ubenedictus:
your copy and paste claims there is no priesthood, now you remember every Christian is a priest, then you forgot Paul talks of a specific ministerial priesthood

uben, you of course keep repeating your same lies over and over again,
read my post again oh confused one:

johnw74:
uben, i told you: "i have no problem with paul and the other apostles being priests of God"
and you replied: first you say there are no priesthood in the new testament. now I have proven you wrong and you have diverted into another thing.

uben you have proven nothing, except your confusion

then uben, you again falsely accuse: "it must be confusing for you after you attacked the priesthood only to find its in the Bible"

truly there was no attack on anything, just a showing of the truth


that above which you posted uben, i copied and pasted from a christian website, which you know,
you kept accusing of copying and pasting, as if there is something wrong with that

christians are kings and priests in Christ, it is not the priesthood of the old testament

the writer of the above, that you posted, gave bible verses supporting the points made,
give me your twisted meanings of those bible verses,
and i will show you again where you are wrong

Ubenedictus:
hehehe yeah you mean his flesh isn't real food, it is figurative food or better metaphorical food.



you call Jesus a liar simply because of Calvin's 16th century heresy.

uben, forever the false accuser

i never said His flesh is not real food, i said it is not physical food
but for you uben, lying is just speaking naturally, following your god:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

^^^ uben, like you, satan when he speaks a lie, is just speaking naturally

you uben think people eat Jesus physical body and drink His physical blood,
your church could tell you anything and you would believe it, and they do,
and you do believe it, ha ha

Ubenedictus:
as usual. you're been duplicitous, jumping from one topic to another.


and yes every early Christian worship place had images, I don't just believe the apostles would used images... even archeology says same.

uben you call my showing you to be wrong as: " jumping from one topic to another"

yeah ok, showing you to be wrong and showing you to be lying is what i like to do

Ubenedictus:
lol, you think your meaning is correct because you adopted them from 19th century heretics, even the original 16th century Protestant think your opinion on this issue is wrong.


you are the heathen here, and also ignorant that you follow an end time heresy.

no uben, my meaning is correct because it's what the Bible says

truly uben, "brethren" in all the verses i posted referring to Jesus brothers is literal,
meaning His brothers

but of course you don't believe God

and uben, Jesus showed that "heathen" is certinally referring to you rc's:

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

danieljessy:
Please how do I combine more than one code. For example, I want my text to be Times New Roman, red, bold and size 14?

like this:
by the way, this forum doesn't have size 14, 12 is the highest


how now brown cow


times new roman is small at this site, but you can try other fonts,
the one below is using, Lucida Sans Unicode

how now brown cow

click on the quote button at the bottom of this post and you will see how i did it

Ubenedictus:
as usual. you're been duplicitous, jumping from one topic to another.


and yes every early Christian worship place had images, I don't just believe the apostles would used images... even archeology says same.

uben you call my showing you to be wrong as: " jumping from one topic to another"

yeah ok, showing you to be wrong and showing you to be lying is what i like to do

Ubenedictus:
hahaha.


Jesus said my flesh is real food.

johnw74 says no Jesus flesh isn't real food


what more can we expect from followers of 16th century heretics

i never said that at all, i said Jesus flesh isn't physical food,
you lie and make false claims in most every post:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ubenedictus:
he he he you claimed the new testament doesn't record a priesthood... now you're shifting.

you speak from both sides of your mouth, no wonder you're a Protestant

i haven't shifted at all, but your confusion and lies are habitual

i'm not a protestant, you know nothing and say anything

Ubenedictus:
you said that in this post



johnw74 :
uben, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:
THE PRIESTHOOD
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that Jesus
Christ ordained the twelve apostles to the priesthood
at the Last Supper and that the powers of the
priesthood were handed down during the past two
thousand years. This teaching is clearly contrary to
the Word of God.
In the Old Testament the work of Christ was
prefigured under the three offices of prophet, priest
and king. The nation of Israel had each office. With
the coming of Christ each of these offices found its
fulfillment in Him. Thus in the New Testament there
is no need for a human sacrificing priesthood.
John 19:30. It is consummated.
I Timothy 2:5. There is one God, and one
Mediator...Christ Jesus.
Hebrews 7:24. Because he continues forever, has an
everlasting (non-transferable, intransmissible)
priesthood.
Hebrews 7:25. He lives always to make intercession.
Hebrews 7:27. He does not need to offer sacrifices
daily.
Hebrews 9:12. Having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 10:10. We have been sanctified through the
offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
I Corinthians 12:28. God indeed has placed some in
the Church, first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly
teachers... (no mention of sacramental priests) .
Ephesians 4:11. He Himself gave some men as
apostles, and some as prophets, others again as
evangelists, and others as pastors and teachers...
(again no mention of sacramental priests) .
I Peter 5:1-3. I, your fellow-presbyter and witness...
(Nothing about being a priest) .
The office of priest is not the same as minister. The
concept of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood
originated and developed under Cyprian, the
theological authority in the West until the time of
Augustine, and was part of the merger of paganism
with Christianity. Nowhere in the Scriptures will on
find evidence of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood
after Christ.

uben, i told you: "i have no problem with paul and the other apostles being priests of God"
and you replied: first you say there are no priesthood in the new testament. now I have proven you wrong and you have diverted into another thing.

uben you have proven nothing, except your confusion

then uben, you again falsely accuse: "it must be confusing for you after you attacked the priesthood only to find its in the Bible"

truly there was no attack on anything, just a showing of the truth


that above which you posted uben, i copied and pasted from a christian website, which you know,
you kept accusing of copying and pasting, as if there is something wrong with that

christians are kings and priests in Christ, it is not the priesthood of the old testament

the writer of the above, that you posted, gave bible verses supporting the points made,
give me your twisted meanings of those bible verses,
and i will show you again where you are wrong

Ubenedictus:
dodging as usual because you are unable to back up your claims

i back up all my claims with God's word,
you cannot do that even once

but you uben being who you are, of the devil, cannot tell the truth
and falsely accuse, always:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ubenedictus:
give me the name of the non Catholic who used the new testament before the Catholic Church?

if Catholic are pagan then tell me when the Protestant canonised their own new testament

duh, christians read the writings of peter paul and the others
long before the satanic roman catholic church was formed

you refer to rc's as pagan, but anyway they certinally are not christian
and i'm not interisted in searching for you: "when the protestant canonised their own new testament",
do the search yourself, it makes no diffrence at all to what i said except in your own blinded mind:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ubenedictus:
that same word is also translated kinsmen

what does it matter that many words have many diffrent meanings,
the meaning of brethren in the verses i posted are so very clear, except to a
heathen, which you uben and other rc's are:
Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Ubenedictus:
nah

I call cartoons cartoons. when I see cartoons I call them by their names cartoons

uben, those illustrations are supported with bible verses
you called God's word in illustration: cartoons - jokes, oh lying one

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(Rom 6:3) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
(Rom 6:4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
(Rom 6:5) For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
(Rom 6:6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
(Rom 6:7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
(Rom 6:8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
(Rom 6:9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
(Rom 6:10) For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.



(Act 8:36) And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
(Act 8:37) And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
(Act 8:38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.



Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.



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Ubenedictus:
you can keep all your cartoons,

Ubenedictus:
.... you prefer cartoons. ....

you uben call the bible illustrated, cartoons,
you think God's word is a joke.

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Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



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It might seem by looking at these verses by themselves that, indeed, certain external actions do convey some benefit (such as eternal life, the forgiveness of sins, the presence or power of the Holy Spirit, etc.). However, when taken in the context of Scripture as a whole, there is no foundation for the belief that God ever intended these passages to be taken as support for rituals as a means of conveying grace. In other words, the whole idea of "sacraments" that convey saving grace upon people is unbiblical.

Two of the main sacraments specifically are said by the Roman Catholic Church to be necessary in order to gain eternal life: baptism and communion. Because of the Roman Catholic Church belief that baptism is required for salvation, Catholics maintain that it is important to baptize infants. But nowhere in Scripture can you find even a single example or command to do so. Some Roman Catholics use Acts 16:33 as a possible example, because it states that the Philippian jailor "and his family" were baptized. But, taking this verse in context, we note two things:

(1) When the jailor asked Paul what he must do to be saved, Paul did NOT say, "Believe on Jesus and be baptized and take communion." Rather, Paul said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household" (v. 31). Thus, we see that it is faith that is the ingredient necessary for salvation. It was understood that one who believed would be baptized, but baptism was not necessary for salvation. If it were, Paul would have given it more weight in his missionary journeys (1 Corinthians 1:14-18).

(2) We see that the "family" could not have included infants or toddlers, as it states in verse 34 that the jailor had "believed in God with all his household." Infants and toddlers cannot exercise faith in God in such a fashion.

Again and again throughout Scripture, faith, not faith PLUS baptism, is seen as the means through which one receives salvation (John 1:12; 3:14-16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3:19-26; 4; 10:9-13; etc.).

Turning to communion, the Roman Catholic Church makes it clear that they take John 6:54 literally when Jesus says, "Unless you eat of the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you." The problem is that their belief that Jesus is speaking literally here is not in keeping with the context of the passage in which Jesus repeatedly states the importance of faith in Him and His coming atoning death for their sins (see John 6:29,35,40,47 and consider the whole message of the gospel of John, as stated in John 20:31).

When one examines the remaining sacraments, one finds that the belief that they convey "sanctifying grace" is not in keeping with the context of the rest of the Bible. Yes, all Christians should be baptized, but baptism does not infuse us with grace. Yes, all Christians should partake of the Lord’s Supper, but doing so does not confer sanctifying grace. Yes, we should confess our sins, not to a priest, but rather to God (1 John 1:9). Having a formal training program and formal acceptance into the church is a good thing to do, but it does not convey saving grace. Being approved as a church leader is an honorable thing, but it does not result in grace. Marriage is a wonderful and blessed event in the life of a couple, but it is not the means of how God graces us. Praying for and with a person who is dying is a godly thing to do – but it does not add grace to our account.

All the grace we will ever need is received the moment we trust Jesus, by faith, as Savior (Ephesians 2:8-9). The saving grace that is granted at the moment of genuine faith is the only saving grace God’s Word calls on us to receive. This grace is received by faith, not by observing rituals. So, while the seven sacraments are “good things to do,” when they are understood in a biblical context, the concept of the seven sacraments as “conferring sanctifying grace” is completely unbiblical.

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uben here is some more copy and paste for you
i know you don't like the truth and the bible verses in these articles
but others do:



seven Catholic sacraments

Question: "Are the seven Catholic sacraments biblical?"

Answer: “Sacraments are outward signs of inward grace, instituted by Christ for our sanctification” (taken from the Catholic Encyclopedia). The Roman Catholic Church teaches that while God gives grace to man without outward symbols (sacraments), He has also chosen to give grace to man through visible symbols. Because God has done this, man is foolish to not make use of this God-provided means of gaining sanctification.

In order to qualify as a sacrament, the Roman Catholic Church states that it must meet the following three criteria: a) the external, that is, a sensibly perceptible sign of sanctifying grace, b) the conferring of sanctifying grace, c) the institution by God or, more accurately, by the God-Man Jesus Christ. Thus, sacraments are not merely a symbol, but are believed to actually confer sanctifying grace upon the recipient. The Roman Catholic Church believes that all of their seven sacraments were instituted by Christ Himself. There are seven Roman Catholic Sacraments, and they are as follows:

1) Baptism, which the Roman Catholic Church teaches removes original sin while infusing the act with sanctifying grace.
2) Penance, in which one confesses his/her sins to a priest.
3) The Eucharist, considered the reception and consumption of the actual body and blood of Christ.
4) Confirmation, a formal acceptance into the church along with special anointing of the Holy Spirit.
5) Anointing of the sick, performed by a priest using oil. The priest anoints the sick person´s forehead and hands with oil. This is associated not only with bodily healing but with forgiveness of sins. When performed on a dying person, it is called Extreme Unction (or last rites or final anointing).
6) Holy Orders, the process by which men are ordained to clergy.
7) Matrimony, which provides special grace to a couple.

The following are verses commonly cited to support the Roman Catholic belief concerning the sacraments: “Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands" (2 Timothy 1:6). "Jesus answered, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God’" (John 3:5). "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit" (Titus 3:5). "That He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word" (Ephesians 5:26). "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" (John 20:23). "And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven" (James 5:15). "Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit" (Acts 8:17). "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed" (John 6:54-55).

uben here is some more copy and paste for you
i know you don't like the truth and the bible verses in these articles
but who cares about that:

Roman Catholic False doctrines

The following list give a summation of what we have been trying to emphasize. If the Bible is a Roman Catholic book,

1. Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6).
2. Why does it teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28).
3. Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).
4. Why does it condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11).
5. Why does it teach that all Christians are saints? (1 Cor. 1:2).
6. Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5).
7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12).
8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9).
9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11).
10. Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5).
11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5).
12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke 22:24-27).
13. Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? (Luke 16:26).
14. Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgences, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church?

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Ubenedictus:
it must be confusing for you after you attacked the priesthood only to find its in the Bible

i certainly never did, post the quotes, habitual liar uben

however if you are talking of the rcc priesthood,
then i very well may have shown them up to be fake

Ubenedictus:
doctoralien

duh uben, God fearing people of the old testament read the God inspired
literature that was available to them, the same as the new testament believers did,
the same literature that is part of what is called the bible, and was written by God inspired men,
the rcc of course wrote none of it, but do change much of the meaning of what it says,
don't you uben

Ubenedictus:
sorry dear, when the early Christian used the word Catholic Church they used it to refer to those who had the same faith with them and excluded the heretics.

do you share same faith with the Church fathers?

is heretics the same as heathen

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

truly uben, the rcc who pray repetitively the same prayer over and over again to a deceased person,
and have statues - idols to her
are not God's church

Ubenedictus:
God didn't inspire Samuel to say God is this rock .

uben oh blinded one, God certainly did tell samuel that He God is a rock:
2Sa_22:32 For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

of course God is not a literal rock, but is our strength, a stronghold for believers:
2Sa 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;


2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


God is not a literal rock, and rcc wafer and wine is not Jesus physical body and physical blood to be physically eaten
and drank,

rcc is full of lies and confusion, no understanding

Ubenedictus:
Samuel didn't take up a rock and proclaim God is this rock or this rock is God.

here Jesus himself say s his flesh is REAL food, he then repeats that you must eat his flesh the Greek word he used is the most literal one, he said you must chew his body. that is the most literal word. then he takes bread and said. this is my body.

you can either believe Jesus was saying the truth and the entire Christian faith has agreed to the same for 2000yrs or you can say Jesus wasn't saying the truth and only in the year 1600 did some people who called themselves Protestants found and started calling Jesus a liar.

it's hard to believe that even rc's can believe those things are literal

Jesus certinally was saying the truth,
and Jesus certinally was speaking figuratively

no one has actually eaten Jesus physical flesh,
or drank Jesus physical blood,

you uben, obviouslt cannot understand much at all of God's word




when Jesus said, do this in rememberance of me, he was saying to gather together,
to eat and drink, that's what they were doing, and to share their faith in Jesus


when Jesus said, do this in rememberance of me, He wasn't saying, give the people
a thin dry wafer of bread and tell them it's my literal body for them to eat

Ubenedictus:
since you did answer why not repeat your answer again. . . stating the dates and names I requested.

do your own work and searches, and then if you find what you are looking for, then post it, oh duh one